HeartCatch Pretty Cure [Archive]

Guido

2009-12-05, 19:43

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6489/1259829051108.jpg

As unbelievable as it sounds, the seventh installment in the Pretty Cure franchise will come to Japanese TV broadcasts on next February.

TOEI simply doesn't want to let this magic-girl, meta-series to die because looks like their target demographic audience still has Pretty Cure freshly engraved in their memories, as it was almost six years ago.

Going by the pictures, it looks like Pretty Cure will return to its basic premise a team composed only of two Pretty Cures as it was in the first series and in Splash Star.

Moreover, as you can see the seventh installment will take on a more fantasy-shoujo, art style in contrast to the current series airing.

In fact, the art style for this future installment reminded me a lot to that of Fushigiboshi no Futago Hime, and I'm serious with that personal statement of mine but that's my opinion; feel free to digress or argue with that last statement.

Junichi Sato was chief director for the latter series, and hopefully if it turns out that he becomes involved in this seventh PreCure series somewhat, then I won't think twice about following it. Of course, that's if TOEI took the bother at inviting Sato-sensei to get involved in this project.

Website: http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/hc_precure/

Leo_Otaku

2009-12-06, 01:08

Man I think Toei needs to seriously DROP this damn series. It is so cliche in almost every way possible. I love magical girl shows but this one just has no heart.

What is with the new designs? 0_p at least that is different but man.... like make a new doremi or something else!

Lummie

2009-12-06, 01:21

Somehow it feels like i'm seeing matured powerpuffs when i look at that picture and somehow i can't figure out the reason why..... :(

Crontica

2009-12-06, 10:03

Why are they destroying my favorite demographic so?! i've watched the 5th season and it was but a HOLLOW SHELL. I felt like i was watching trained drones killing monsters over and over in some horrid RPG Grind.. MAKE IT STOP!

cry

2009-12-06, 12:40

there's no duality in those designs like in the first ones (black and white cure...)

musume_no_hoshi

2009-12-07, 09:02

I don't really like the character designs here. Actually, I just don't like the art style. This art style wouldn't fit with the rest of the generations. Fresh did have a different character designer, but the style was close enough to the old style. Once again Toei is simplfying the art style so it's easier to animate. Fresh being more simple then the earlier seasons seems to have better consistency . If this preview picture is those high quality promotional picture, then what is the anime going to be like?

But seriously...even I can design that when I was 12.

Toei I rather you make more Ojamajo Doremi. I loved that series.

Kaoru Chujo

2009-12-07, 14:37

I can't find it now, but I saw a pic of a magazine page on 2channel that said this show has two intended demographics: (a) little girls, and (b) men around 20. And it continues to get ratings in the top ten. So it ain't going to go away any time soon.

zrdb

2009-12-08, 13:06

To me the 1st and 2nd seasons are classic Pretty Cure-this looks like Toei has finished enviserating ther series-they'll find no safe harbor here with me.

musume_no_hoshi

2009-12-08, 13:40

http://gizmodo.com/5421426/whatever-you-do-this-christmas-dont-buy-a-japanese-child-a-console

Pretty Cure merchandises is the 2nd most wanted christmas presents for children. Of course it's not going away. To my memories, Sailor Moon and Ojamajo Doremi are as popular as Pretty Cure when they where on. They both only lasted 4 years. Pretty Cure is on its 6th year. HeartCatch would be the 7th year.

Doraneko

2009-12-16, 11:29

I guess if they drop the magical girl cliche and make a realistic "Heart Catch" series, it will easily top the charts of the coming year. :p
http://i.imagehost.org/0306/7466329.jpg

Crontica

2009-12-17, 05:21

I guess if they drop the magical girl cliche and make a realistic "Heart Catch" series, it will easily top the charts of the coming year. :p

From the pace they are now, they are not going to make a anime that surpasses nanoha anytime soon. :heh:

Liddo-kun

2009-12-17, 05:52

The cute animation style of this one got my attention (haven't watched a Pretty Cure series before). :)
Going to watch it when it's released.

Tatiana Razajev

2009-12-17, 13:31

I've enjoyed the past and current seasons of Pretty Cure. I'm perfectly fine with cutesy. Thus it's a given I'll try this one out.

musume_no_hoshi

2009-12-28, 16:06

The official website have updated with a new picture. It's Ojamajo Doremi character designer! I'm hoping this new season would be more like Ojamajo Doremi, less about fighting evil and more on character developement. Even that magical wand looks like it's from Dokkan. Now I'm interested who's the director :heh:.

See how my attitude changed knowing the character designer worked on Doremi...just shows how much I loved that series :uhoh:.

The ending theme is by the singer who did the first ending of the first series. This is looking good for now.

Leo_Otaku

2009-12-28, 22:51

musume_no_hoshi

2009-12-29, 11:41

I too noticed the Doremi designs when I was the website and saw the wands too XD I just don't want it to be so damn cliche >.>. That was my problem with Pretty Cure the villains and plot were so terrible. It had no heart.

Sometimes cliche is good, look at Guren Lagann. I just want some character developements. Max Heart was pretty good in terms of character developement and plot. GoGo's plot was pretty bleh, but it had the most romance out of all the seasons. Seriously THERE WAS A KISS SCENE IN PRETTY CURE -le gasps- :heh:.

Ojamajo Doremi had a good director, after Doremi he went and directed Ouran and Soul Eater, both are pretty good. They even had the director of The girl who leapt through time and Summer Wars for one episode. HeartCatch needs a good director, because this has no source material the staff list is really important.

MayumiHime

2009-12-29, 17:48

Why has the pink girl on the main website picture only four fingers? ... :heh:
Scary.

Yeah it really looks like Doremi, lol. Maybe I'll watch it, need some new magical girl anime. xDD~

Midonin

2010-01-05, 18:42

TCman

2010-01-05, 19:13

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. The casting has been announced:

Tsubomi Hanasaki/Cure Blossom - Nana Mizuki
Erika Kurumi/Cure Marine - Fumie Mizusawa

I've barely heard of Mizusawa, but Nana Mizuki...well, that's about as big a name as you're going to find these days. If Eri Kitamura can pull me into the last series...

I guess Toei really wants this new Precure series to be successful. Nana Mizuki is in my opinion one of the best seiyus in Japan, not to mention she is a great singer (she became the first voice actor or actress with a no. 1 album on Oricon's weekly album chart with her CD album "Ultimate Diamond"). I really hope Nana Mizuki will sing some insert songs in this Precure anime (like in Shugo Chara).

Source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-01-05/nana-mizuki-fumie-mizusawa-star-in-heartcatch-precure So this is a very good news for Precure or every Mahou shoujo fans!

asaqe

2010-01-06, 00:11

In Before those hilarious Endless Frontier/Heartcatch Precure jokes.

Cure white has same VA as Kaguya, Cure Blossom has same VA as Niege

Of course, continuing tradition, wonder which Gundams VA will be voicing the bad guys? We already got Jamitov, Garrod and Coroner as repeat villains.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-01-06, 04:38

I guess Toei really wants this new Precure series to be successful. Nana Mizuki is in my opinion one of the best seiyus in Japan, not to mention she is a great singer (she became the first voice actor or actress with a no. 1 album on Oricon's weekly album chart with her CD album "Ultimate Diamond"). I really hope Nana Mizuki will sing some insert songs in this Precure anime (like in Shugo Chara).

Source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-01-05/nana-mizuki-fumie-mizusawa-star-in-heartcatch-precure So this is a very good news for Precure or every Mahou shoujo fans!

WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF I'M WATCHING THIS FOR NANA-CHAN :heh:.

How the heck does she have time for a long running series, not to mention it's a Pretty Cure series and could get another season later. And I thought the pay isn't very high for a weekly series too...I was already surprised she did Utau from Shugo Chara (she didn't appear alot in the end, so I guess it worked out well for her time table). I'm guessing that she probably accepted this job to help her break into mainstream. Also Toei probably can gain alot of otaku (the periphery demographic).

Too bad the ending and opening have already been decided. I don't really expect Nana to surprise me with her voice acting anymore, it's boring but practical. She's okay at voicing pretty much any female character (fails at boys). I think here she'll be using her moe-moe voice. I'm expecting a character single then?

I'm definitely watching this. This is turning out to be much much much better then Fresh already.

Tatiana Razajev

2010-01-06, 09:29

Tsubomi Hanasaki/Cure Blossom - Nana Mizuki
Erika Kurumi/Cure Marine - Fumie Mizusawa

Ah, I like the sound of this. Note I was planning to watch the series before I even learned this, but this makes me even more motivated.

IchiKyo

2010-01-06, 19:42

Nana Mizuki?
http://static.zerochan.net/full/42/12/98142.jpg
Ok, EPIC.

How the heck does she have time for a long running series, not to mention it's a Pretty Cure series and could get another season later.
http://tasunke.otakugeeksquad.org/blog/2010/01/06/heartcatch-pretty-cure-seiyuu/
Read this, you may have some surprise expected from Nana Mizuki.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-01-07, 10:59

http://tasunke.otakugeeksquad.org/blog/2010/01/06/heartcatch-pretty-cure-seiyuu/
Read this, you may have some surprise expected from Nana Mizuki.

I found that quote by Nana on the official website, google translation...wasn't very useful. Thanks for the proper human translation :heh:.

From the translation, it looks like it took Nana barely no effort to get the role while Mizusawa (looking on Wikipedia, she barely had any roles this year too) probably had to go through auditions and so on. Nana just sounds...so typical like always. Just a nice rounded answer.

Like I said on the Fairy Tail thread, long running mainstream series usually do not hire seiyuu idols. They are more expensive and probably their time table wouldn't work as well. They usually hire experienced seiyuus, such as Yukana for Honoka and Yūko Sanpei for Nozomi. I have to admit, hiring Hirano Aya for Fairy Tail made alot more sense then Mizuki Nana for Pretty Cure (who ever posted that news on the thread, I thought he/she was trolling :heh:). It's great that Nana gets the role, but I might have prefered hearing lesser known seiyuu. There's alot of other seiyuus who needs a break out role and to pay their bills.

But I can see this being a two way promotion. Nana would be more well known by normal people. Some Nanatards may actually watch Pretty Cure now. Usually they never had 'New Pretty Cure's seiyuu message for the fans'.

Looping Live Fever for the nth time now

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-01-07, 21:05

YES! A Pretty Cure thread!

It's official: Fate is now part of the Pretty Cure legacy.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/WingKnightZero/99056.jpg

Is Nanoha next?

Midonin

2010-01-07, 22:13

I'm expecting a character single then?.
The Precure franchise doesn't really do character singles, but they always release two vocal albums a year with character songs. Her voice (as Tsubomi's voice) will be heard on those.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-01-15, 15:47

15 sec CM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeh2aB-pLR4&fmt=18

What can I say? It looks...very Pretty Cure. Animation probably came from the transformation sequence. I knew Nana-chan was going to use this voice, the 'moe/cute' voice. Right now, I'm quiet glad they used a simpler design, hopefully the frame rate would be better and QUALITY would be gone.

If I found some Pretty Cute Heartcatch toy in Hong Kong with Nana's voice recorded on to it...I have a feeling I would buy it...

The Precure franchise doesn't really do character singles, but they always release two vocal albums a year with character songs. Her voice (as Tsubomi's voice) will be heard on those.

Song Communication from Phantom Minds scared me. I'm not very fond of her moe-moe voice. But but I would LOVE to hear a Mizuki Nana version of any Pretty Cure opening except Fresh's one.

Leo_Otaku

2010-01-17, 01:50

LOL that Fresh opening was terrible >.> Despite my not like for this franchise I like some of the music. Wishing for new doremi someday....

asaqe

2010-01-20, 03:51

Better yet, who will voice the villains? You know it is an ongoing tradition for GUNDAM to destroy precure with its angsty pilots. Though the spirit of Kamen Rider Redeems Soular and Wester

musume_no_hoshi

2010-01-20, 10:49

LOL that Fresh opening was terrible >.> Despite my not like for this franchise I like some of the music. Wishing for new doremi someday....

The singer for Fresh's opening did a live for anipara. I was very dissapointed that she wasn't pretty, because the vocals were so bad that I believed the singer must have been cute (Koharu in Kirarin Revolution anyone?).

Yes, new Doremi would be nice. But that's not going to happen, it's like asking for more Sailor Moon...

felix

2010-01-20, 11:56

Whats it about?

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-01-21, 00:01

Better yet, who will voice the villains? You know it is an ongoing tradition for GUNDAM to destroy precure with its angsty pilots. Though the spirit of Kamen Rider Redeems Soular and Wester

Oh yes.:heh: I mean I wanna see Souler transforms into Kamen Rider X.:p

I heard that Nanoha's VA will voice Sasorina. Is that true???

Midonin

2010-01-21, 00:03

Oh yes.:heh: I mean I wanna see Souler transforms into Kamen Rider X.:p
It's that or Den-O Gun Form. Civilians, duck and cover.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-01-21, 00:11

It's that or Den-O Gun Form. Civilians, duck and cover.

Or bring Minami Kotaro's apprentice to do the asskicking.:D

Maybe we should have an official Pretty Cure thread, shall we?

asaqe

2010-01-21, 23:45

We should.

IchiKyo

2010-01-25, 09:30

I'm not very fond of her moe-moe voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6EvZnMdZwY
No? :p

musume_no_hoshi

2010-01-25, 11:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6EvZnMdZwY
No? :p

As much as I love Nana-chan, I'm not that fond of her voice acting. Her voice acting is perfectly fine for a seiyuu, but it's very paint by number. Luckily, her voice also never goes wrong (unlike this certain seiyuu which I will not name). To name a trope, boring but practical. From that clip, I'm more impressed by Mizusawa's voice...:heh:

I like Nana's normal speaking voice...

It's obvious that Nana-chan is using Pretty Cure as promotion as well as Toei using her as promotion too. I don't think earlier Pretty Cure seiyuus had TV promotions...

Currently looping Hime Murasaki

momobunny

2010-01-25, 11:32

I'm looking forward to this. Cure Blossom looks like she's going to be my favorite Pretty Cure, and she's being voiced by one of my favorite seiyuu. *w*

Though from the clip given, I'm going to have to agree with musume on "boring but practical". I too was more wowed by Mizusawa's voice... but I still really look forward to hearing Nana's Cure Blossom. :3

Steve the Tribble

2010-01-29, 15:49

Despite some critical postings I'm still looking forward to this series. I have a feeling it will be once again a better Precure series then its precursor.
Makes me curious... *_*

IchiKyo

2010-01-29, 19:07

Is Nanoha next?
For the moment, Yukari Tamura will voice a villain called Sasorina.
Oh and yes this woman is the first enemy of Tsubomi.

Midonin

2010-01-29, 19:56

For the moment, Yukari Tamura will voice a villain called Sasorina.
She's listed as one of the big three villains on Asahi's page. Which means that Nanoha's fight will be reborn, only the sides are switched this time. Let the fun begin.

Though I'm not seeing any sources formerly announcing that yet.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-01-30, 06:28

Oh Toei, you are really going for the 20+ males audience this time right? ._.''

I'll laugh if they hire any more big name seiyuus, having Nana-chan and Yukarin in the same show is going to gather a fair slice of the otaku population. Yukarin might not be an amazing singer, but I do enjoy her voice acting. I can't wait for Tsubomi to make Sasorina change to the good side (although that might be a little to close to Fresh's story line).

WE NEED A NANA-CHAN AND YUKARIN DUET!

IchiKyo

2010-01-30, 19:51

Fresh is finished T_T
Time to Heartcatch Precure \o/
I already love Ojamajo Tsubomi and her glasses :)
She looks like Hazuki like this :)

http://kyohime57.free.fr/PC/hazubomi.jpg

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-01-31, 00:42

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/WingKnightZero/Lolcats/129093697694109853.jpg

musume_no_hoshi

2010-01-31, 10:00

Seeing the extra long preview after the last episodes of Fresh just made me look forward to HeartCatch even more...Not because of Nana-chan, but the character designs. I adore the crazy chibis in Ojamajo Doremi, I honestly can't wait for more. /Tears of joy

I hope Toei works on another 3D dancing ending theme, but I doubt it can top H@ppy Together.

Tatiana Razajev

2010-01-31, 13:30

For the moment, Yukari Tamura will voice a villain called Sasorina.
Oh and yes this woman is the first enemy of Tsubomi.

The mental image this will give should be interesting. Especially if Sasorina has a decent human form design and such.

Leo_Otaku

2010-02-02, 01:23

Yay doremi designs for the win >.> looks like this is as close as it will get *shrug*

momobunny

2010-02-02, 01:27

I can't wait to see Cure Blossom and Marine in the 2nd All Stars movie. *w*

asaqe

2010-02-02, 05:06

How about the male villains, which members of GUNDAM will try and destroy Precure?

IchiKyo

2010-02-02, 06:56

More villains from Casshern Sins

asaqe

2010-02-02, 13:37

As in Seiyuus, we all know it is a grand tradition for GUNDAM to destroy the innocent worlds of precure

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-02, 21:15

-fS1iNzY5lo

THIS is what should be the OP of HeartCatch Pretty Cure.:D

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/hc_precure/chara/chara05.html#cpoint

asaqe

2010-02-03, 00:13

I think the character designer for the non cures is based off Casshern SINS.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-02-03, 11:37

Tsubomi's everyday set has a 7 on the back of her shirt (Toei's website updated with some new character designs)...Mizuki Nana-san, you really love the 'Nana is 7' trope? Did Toei or the charater designer decided they wanted to add 7 on the back of Tsubomi's shirt? :heh:

I will laugh if they have anything released to 'Nana' in the anime :uhoh:

-edit-

Looks like the director is the same one that did Splash Star/5/Go Go

IchiKyo

2010-02-03, 12:13

The mental image this will give should be interesting. Especially if Sasorina has a decent human form design and such.

Yeah but unfortunately it looks like someone else which will voiced Sasorina :(
サソリーナ　CV：高乃麗
Takano Urara, i think those who watch Simoun might remember her as Wauf.

But still, there's other new character that appear for now like Cure Sunshine (?????), Cure Moonlight (a Cure that will guide both heroins during their dreams) and a Dark precure (will be voiced by the actress who voiced Conan)

pcj

2010-02-03, 12:25

Aww, too bad Yukari's not Sasorina after all. It would have been the perfect expy role reversal if Cure Blossom "befriended" Sasorina and she became Cure Sunshine. :)

asaqe

2010-02-03, 15:56

Any other VA confirmed yet? We already got one member from GUNDAM planning this invasion.

IchiKyo

2010-02-03, 17:11

Kumojakki : Takemoto Eiji (Raven in Tales of Vesperia, Rock Howard in Garou Mark of the Wolfes)
Cobraja - Nojima Hirofumi (Don't have any good role for him)
Dark precure : Minami Takayama

momobunny

2010-02-03, 17:41

So far to me, this looks like it'll be the best Pretty Cure season yet... probably along with the first and second ones. (I do like Cure White and Shiny Luminous. >w> )

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-03, 19:00

Yeah but unfortunately it looks like someone else which will voiced Sasorina :(
サソリーナ　CV：高乃麗
Takano Urara, i think those who watch Simoun might remember her as Wauf.

But still, there's other new character that appear for now like Cure Sunshine (?????), Cure Moonlight (a Cure that will guide both heroins during their dreams) and a Dark precure (will be voiced by the actress who voiced Conan)

Aww, too bad Yukari's not Sasorina after all. It would have been the perfect expy role reversal if Cure Blossom "befriended" Sasorina and she because Cure Sunshine. :)

Oh, too bad. I thought that Yukari Tamura will voice Sasorinaa.:( But oh well, I dunno how will Nanoha react if she saw Fate as Cure Blossom.

But despite of those, Heartcatch will be more interesting.

IchiKyo

2010-02-06, 19:45

Nice first episode
Too much reference about previous series
Mascots appereance from Futari Wa, Tree Garden Sequence from Splash Star, the 4-leaf Clover from Fresh etc...
It's just too bad that they keep the same music of Fresh Precure for Heartcatch. I was expecting of a new music composer or the return of Naoki Sato but well...
The Fight between Cure Moonlight and Dark Precure was awesome. Short but it don't need more minutes to convice me
Too much Ojamajo reference too :). Erika is a funny character and Tsubomi will have an hard time, well good luck Nana Mizuki, i found her screaming too much :p

Midonin

2010-02-06, 20:44

Toei's CG is still just disconcerting enough to take me out of the picture, but the ED song isn't half bad. Plus, hey, Nana Mizuki. Looks like I might be in for the long haul.

Daniel Lind

2010-02-07, 00:41

Well that was a pretty enjoyable watch. With kind of simplistic design, animation was much better than expected instead, at least partially. Opening is totally fabulous and fast-paced. ED is once again cringe-worthy mocap 3DCGI, though looking a lot better than Fresh ED1. Not too much of typical mahou shoujo silliness either, which is a plus. Mizusawa Fumie does a great job as Erika, and with a totally different voice than that of, say, Juliet (from RxJ).

Oh and Cure Moonlight is obviously voiced by Hisakawa Aya, I have no idea why did they ???'d her. Perhaps, she's gonna return somehow.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-07, 01:30

New Allies of Justice are Fate Testarossa [Nanoha Series] with Amy [Sonic Series] and Gidget [Eureka Seven] with Kid Salsamille [Gundam X]. Joining also to the group is Linda T. Harlown [Nanoha Series]

New Recruits of NE/m/ESIS are: Tallgeese [SD Gundam Force], Axl [Rockman X Series], Reggiane Josephine [SRW GC/360], Agent X/Apollos [Mahou Sentai Magiranger vs Dekaranger], Gainer Sanga [Overman King Gainer], and Agumon [Digimon Series]. The newest member is Kati [Gundam 00]

Leo_Otaku

2010-02-07, 01:36

Too much Ojamajo reference too :). Erika is a funny character and Tsubomi will have an hard time, well good luck Nana Mizuki, i found her screaming too much :p

I'm sorry Doremi owns pretty cure hands down. This makes Pretty cure actually seem now somewhat bearable. Before it was saturated in cliche themes over and over.

The opening is a HUGE improvement on the vocals from fresh. Like serious what the hell was that. Someone was tone deaf.

momobunny

2010-02-07, 02:04

I just finished episode 1. So far this is my favorite Pretty Cure season... my opinion probably shouldn't count though since I've yet to see a full season of Pretty Cure. ^^;

But so far it looks promising to me, and unlike with the other seasons I can see myself watching every episode of this and staying updated on it. :3

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-07, 04:07

I'm sorry Doremi owns pretty cure hands down. This makes Pretty cure actually seem now somewhat bearable. Before it was saturated in cliche themes over and over.

I sense character development for Heartcatch Pretty Cure.:)

Horse

2010-02-07, 06:28

Best maho shoujo show since Sailor Moon, thanks. If they can keep this quality throughout the whole run, it'd be amazing.

Scarf kamen next week!

musume_no_hoshi

2010-02-07, 07:43

That was the best Pretty Cure first episode I have ever seen. I think I'm happy with everything about it, but my expectation wasn't very high from the start. Looks like there will be character developement later on, since the characters looks like they can be developed pretty easily. The preview looks good, can't wait for the random dark haired guy to appear (as cliche as it is, I love this sort of story line). I never expected the ending dance to beat H@ppy Together, that was just the cutest ending I have ever seen. Doesn't look like this art style works well in CG either. The opening doesn't rip your ears!

Is it me, but the transformation looks a bit like Shugo Chara, with all the pink sparkles? Also the evil monster of the week uses the weakness of a certain character/person, seems pretty identical to Shugo Chara's bad eggs to me. :heh:

The weird chibis from Ojamajo Doremi is back, very happy about it. I bet Cure Moonlight would be an ensemble dark horse, and alot of fanarts are going to drawing Tsubomi with her glasses.

Just imagine Nana-chan doing the dance...she's going to suck at it (like all her other dancing :heh:)

I'm sorry Doremi owns pretty cure hands down

Agreed.

asaqe

2010-02-07, 14:01

pcj

2010-02-07, 15:46

The concept of an existing Cure Team when the series begins, which fails, and the mascots find a new group to replace them, is pretty intriguing. It sure looks like that's what happened here. There's probably a chance they'll eventually save the original Cures and have a 4-person team I would imagine.

Tatiana Razajev

2010-02-07, 23:54

On a side note, I've actually been trying out some of "Doremi". I will say I am more into Pretty Cure, but keep in mind I've watching it much longer. Still Doremi does have its charm.

As for Heartcatch, over all I like the first episode. The transformation scene was decent. Still it's clear that at least in the first two episodes if not more, we'll be in the set up phase.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-08, 00:37

A bit disappointing this season lacked true gundam NE/m/ESIS. Shinn's heresy has create a division in ranks as he was saved by Kamen Rider.

So NE/m/ESIS, who are they?

But Dai-Gundam (a.k.a. NE/m/ESIS) has its new Great Leader in the form of Shinn's father. But it's not a dissapointment because Kati Mannequin is now part of the group as the organization's newest superstar. She took Nena Trinity's "Dark Lemonade" DNA and injects it to her body so she became the Dark Precure.

Leo_Otaku

2010-02-08, 02:04

I agree it was actually quite good. Better than what I expected. I'm glad that it has a Doremi feel it makes it feel not attached to the other Pretty Cure series. And Taeko Yamada yes!!! I love her voice ever since Rababo in Comet-san.
But the transformation totally reminds me of the cologne tap from the Dokkan season of Doremi.

On a side note, I've actually been trying out some of "Doremi". I will say I am more into Pretty Cure, but keep in mind I've watching it much longer. Still Doremi does have its charm.

As for Heartcatch, over all I like the first episode. The transformation scene was decent. Still it's clear that at least in the first two episodes if not more, we'll be in the set up phase.

How much have you watched or which seasons? I find the whole back ground story is much more original. Their transformations are actually fun. I also find that their is much more character building and actually problems and issues and heart. It isn't all just about and opposing evil.

I would recommend to keep watching Doremi. Some of the best episodes are the OVA's and the final episodes.

Best maho shoujo show since Sailor Moon, thanks. If they can keep this quality throughout the whole run, it'd be amazing.
Scarf kamen next week!

I would be to differ there have been many excellent magical girl shows since Sailor Moon. Shugo Chara, Doremi, Princess Tutu are a few examples. Comet-san is also quite good too but not on a Sailor Moon level.

Maceart

2010-02-08, 03:26

Oh wow, what a surprise.

After seven seasons of Pretty Cure, Toei finally had the right mind to grab the screenplay writer from Ojamajo Doremi, the character designer from Ojamajo Doremi, and one of the directors from Ojamajo Doremi.

Basically, this is the closest we'll get to a new Ojamajo Doremi anime.

Since that's how it is, Doremi-fansubs has subbed the first episode! It's really a great start to a new season.

http://a.scarywater.net/doremi/%5BDoremi%5D.HeartCatch.PreCure!.01.%5B1280x720%5D .%5BD5C82B8C%5D.mkv.torrent

Daniel Lind

2010-02-08, 04:54

Thank you for your efforts Maceart.

Anyway, I don't really want to get into Doremi, the girls are too young in that one :heh:

Siegel Clyne

2010-02-08, 07:07

Pretty Cure Series Opening Episode (Episode 1) Average Television Household Audience Ratings in the Kantou Region of Japan (Tokyo, Yokohama, Kawasaki, Chiba, Saitama, etc.)

7.7% Futari wa Pretty Cure (2004-2005)
8.0% Futari wa Pretty Cure Max Heart (2005-2006)
8.8% Futari wa Pretty Cure Splash☆Star (2006-2007)
7.4% Yes! Precure 5 (2007-2008)
6.7% Yes! Precure 5 GoGo! (2008-2009)
7.4% Fresh Pretty Cure! (2009-2010)
6.6% Heartcatch Precure! (2010-2011) (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=6.6%25+%22ハートキャッチプリキュア%21%22)

musume_no_hoshi

2010-02-08, 08:44

Wai wai ~ Subs ~ Thanks Maceart

Eh? The screen writer is also from Ojamajo Doremi? Are they trying to grab some old skool fans this time round? I am not complaining with this season of Pretty Cure, I'm liking the Doremi connection.

Wow more people liked Fresh then I thought and I thought the first episode was the weakest Pretty Cure first episode.

TCman

2010-02-08, 14:34

Just saw the first episode of HeartCatch. Very enjoyable with nice pacing and good quality animations. Character design is top notch, especially the bad guys as seen in the OP, very stylish, as earlier mentioned very "Cassern-ish", very nice indeed.

As for the OP video, the song is indeed better than the one for Fresh Precure, especially the scenes with lots of hints and action, e.g. Cure Blossom with Superman's cape, Cure Marine's Ki Power-up attack detroying the badguys around her (like in Dragon Ball Z?!), fighting in space!!!; so if these scenes in the OP indicate just a part of what we are gonna to see, then HeartCatch is indeed very promising!

As for the relatively low (still 6.6%) TV rating when compared to earlier Precure series, well I guess the Precure fans need to warm up (need to get use to the new design which is not typical 'Pretty Cure' at all) for the new series, since HeartCatch does have a lot changes, it's an overhaul of the Precure series.

FireChick

2010-02-08, 17:35

I saw the first half of this (second half got off-key so I'll watch the rest of it somewhere else) and...FINALLY I FOUND A SHOW THAT HAS PROVEN ME WRONG FOR ONCE!!! I seriously thought that Tsubomi was gonna be the happy energetic girl and Erika was gonna be the shy girl...and it seems the latter has been reversed! But I love it so far. So much Ojamajo Doremi expressions and stuff! Not that I hate it, just pointing it out. I'm loving the two so far.:D

7Th

2010-02-09, 10:15

Surprisingly good first episode. It was stylish, fast-paced and really fucking fun.

IchiKyo

2010-02-14, 12:15

God... this episode 2... I remain breathless...
I think the revelation about Cure Flower that is Tsubomi grandma make me believe that precure exist since a long time... Now i want to believe that in Futari Wa Precure, Sanae was a Precure before Honoka became Cure White.
Heartcatch begin to surpass Fresh...

musume_no_hoshi

2010-02-14, 12:43

What the heck?! This episode is too good for Pretty Cure. Episode 2 did not disappoint me after an amazing first episode.

I don't know how to explain why this episode is so good, it's good in every department. The pacing is done well, unlike the generations before, where they try and fit the introduction and the transformation and the fight in one episode. There's already character developement for both the girls, this is looking good. Side characters are not just side characters, I love how the grandma actually helps Tsubomi. The comical scenes are intergrated well into the fight scenes. The fight is actually choreographed well (animation was good too), it's on par with the first season's physical fighting. The villian actually don't just stand there, she actually attacked Cure Blossom. Right now, this is on par with Shugo Chara (not the current filler 10 minute a week anime). I don't care if the music were taken from Fresh, they work extremely well.

The in-show advertisement for the toys is still there, so it's definitely Pretty Cure.

TUXEDO-MEGANE! (Looks like LJ fangirls are calling him that right now). It's been a while since we had the prince to save the girl in the last minute. I hope he doesn't pop up all the time thou.

The first two episodes are too good. Since when was Pretty Cure this good? I do remember the Urara episodes where quite good with PC5, but the introduction episodes were quite meh...

sirtao

2010-02-14, 14:32

Kimono Megane is probably a more fit name...

Daniel Lind

2010-02-14, 14:40

TUXEDO-MEGANE!
Zetsubou Kamen is more like it.

Shiroth

2010-02-14, 16:57

Surprisingly good first episode. It was stylish, fast-paced and really fucking fun.
Couldn't have said it better myself. The Yoshihiko Umakoshi addition to the team which makes the Casshern Sins style come alive oh so well. Such a visual treat, and if this first episode is anything to go by, then we're seriously in for one hell of a treat with this series.

Good to hear the second episode Delivers. Can't wait to see it for myself.

Maceart

2010-02-14, 18:35

Subs are out for the 2nd episode.

Animation stayed up, awesome fighting, Doremi-like chibi faces make a big return.

This show is like the Ojamajo Doremi of the 21st century.

Leo_Otaku

2010-02-15, 01:04

I agree. The pacing was done really well. I love the "hey look at these awesome toys you wanna buy kids". Better than the cellphone thing from the first series.

Shiroth

2010-02-15, 06:18

Second episode truly does carry on the awesomeness from the first. I'm seriously impressed with this show.

Shouldn't this thread have been moved to the fansub section by now?

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-15, 23:02

I really liked Episode 2. Maybe Heartcatch will be one of the Pretty Cure shows that focuses on character development. Kaoruko being a former Cure is really interesting so she'll be a mentor for Tsubomi. For a Kamen Rider fan's POV, Kouruko is the Pretty Cure version of Tendou's Granma.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/WingKnightZero/1265555762226.png

Midonin

2010-02-15, 23:10

The wealth of fanart drawing upon the mysterious guy's similarity to Nozomu Itoshiki is astounding. Fanartists work fast. Then again, given how much Shaft and Shinbo have referenced Pretty Cure in all its incarnations, to have them repay the favor only seems fitting.

momobunny

2010-02-16, 00:16

I wonder what Cure Flower looked like...

Tatiana Razajev

2010-02-16, 03:09

How much have you watched or which seasons? I find the whole back ground story is much more original. Their transformations are actually fun. I also find that their is much more character building and actually problems and issues and heart. It isn't all just about and opposing evil.

In regards to Doremi, so far I've watched 31 episodes of the first season and have plans to watch more. It took a few episodes to truly get going, but after the series has been over all enjoyable.

Getting back to HeartCatch, I can say after two episodes I'm liking this Pretty Cure series as well. It has definite potential and the idea of Cure Flower is interesting. Still it may take some time to get used to monsters with dialogue.

Daniel Lind

2010-02-16, 09:33

I love the "hey look at these awesome toys you wanna buy kids".
Woah, no offence here but I reckon it's pretty hard for you to watch your average mahou shoujo series.

fertygo

2010-02-17, 04:32

can i ask something ?
do i need to watch previous series, before watch this one ?

thanks !

Shiroth

2010-02-17, 04:38

can i ask something ?
do i need to watch previous series, before watch this one ?
You don't need to have watched anything from the franchise to fully enjoy Heartcatch. :)

momobunny

2010-02-17, 05:32

can i ask something ?
do i need to watch previous series, before watch this one ?

thanks !

Yeah, what Shiroth said. I've barely watched episodes from the previous seasons and I still find HeartCatch very enjoyable. :3

Midonin

2010-02-18, 23:39

Apparently Tsubomi's Zetsubou-sensei guy served as the perfect inspiration for the second of a ??? part series.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2pq5qwx_th.jpg (http://i47.tinypic.com/2pq5qwx.jpg)
Presenting...Heartcatchsh Lily Cure! Featuring Cure Okussama and Cure Rin. Along with everybody's favorite perpetually depressed teacher.

Leo_Otaku

2010-02-19, 01:18

Woah, no offence here but I reckon it's pretty hard for you to watch your average mahou shoujo series.
0_o?? Er no...I love merchandise.... *confused*I've bought many magical girl items before but previous precure stuff was really lame. The ones in heart catch look and remind me of doremi ones.

Guido

2010-02-19, 22:28

I Want to Change! I'll Show You that I Can!!

:love: This is not even enough to express my feelings upon watching the first episode to Pretty Cure HeartCatch!

By the end of the episode I was just mesmerized.

It turned out like everyone has been discussing at this thread for the past two weeks. This brand-new PreCure series steps way beyond above previous Pretty Cure incarnations.

The animation style and elements were as just I expected them to be: reminding me strongly of Ojamajo Doremi and another show could Fushigiboshi Futagohime.

This is a remarkable but highly received change to depart from previous serie's styles.

Though what piques me enthusiastically the most is both the characters and the story. Yes, there's a lingering potential, and if the TOEI writers play their cards well, then this could turn out to be the best Pretty Cure in the franchise's history.

I'm specially fond of Tsubomi for an important trait, and that is her character.
I can empathize with her because I'm also of the same personality type.

In later elementary school and junior high school, I was shy and introverted, and barely made any friends, until I enter college.

Today I'm still a bit of an introverted, and like Tsubomi I feel frustrated at being interrupted when speaking, or feeling flat-down depressed when I can't pull out the guts to say something cool in front of other people.

Tsubomi has my vote to being of my favorite female leads in a magic-girl series.

Things that I really like and broke completely the stereotype mold of the magic-girl genre were the fact that Tsubomi as a Pretty Cure not only thought up a name for her magical alter-ego but also her own delivery phrase.

She was given liberty to choose her magical-girl name and catchy phrase. This is contrast to the previous series Cures that upon transforming they already know what speech phrase to say.

But letting that aside, I think that I agree with all you guys that the most beautiful but impressive part of them all was the prologue segment featuring the Dark Precure v.s. Cure Moonlight fight.

This was a blow to the magic-girl genre.

I said this because a villain was able to defeat permanently (or at least it looks that way) a pure but strong Pretty Cure, which has never happened before.

An additional deviation of the rules is that through her dreams, Tsubomi has already an insight knowledge about PreCure before Shypret and Coffret come raining down on her.

There were a lot of things happening in this first episode that hardly I can list them all without tiring myself, but definitely I liked Tsubomi and her character the most, in spite of that impressive prologue segment match. This is a first to me for a Pretty Cure series, and the third time for the overall magic-girl genre shows.

Liddo-kun

2010-02-19, 23:48

I was skeptical at first, but I'm glad that I gave this anime a chance up to episode 2.

The battle scenes are different from what I expected.
There's a good dose of hand to hand combat which made the fight scenes more interesting to watch.

Vibrant animation combined with decent action scenes.
I have no complaints at all. :)

musume_no_hoshi

2010-02-21, 08:29

-The animation dropped a little this episode, but I expected it
-Since they try to fit Erika's introduction in one episode, the pacing is slightly faster.
-The monster of the week this episode is quite stereotypical, but I liked how the ball 'cried' after they came back up from the river. It was a nice touch
-Tsubomi you player, you want Zetsubo Sensei AND Itsuki-sama? :heh:I personally think Zetsubo Sensei is a different character to Itsuki and that Itsuki is a reverse trap who is also Cure Sunshine...But who knows, this is mahou shoujo...
- I wonder would Erika get her love interest too? But I guess this wouldn't get as much romance as Pretty Cure 5.
-Zettai Ryouiki =A=/
-It's nice to see Tsubomi and Erika finally getting friendly with each other
-Erika's 'Saaafeeeee' is the exact one that was from Ojamajo Doremi

Overall, this episode wasn't as strong as the first 2. But it was still very enjoyable, there was some really nice small touches.

UnDeaD

2010-02-21, 12:54

Looks like this show has held up, animation-wise, in the same way that One Piece holds up animation wise. The relatively simple character designs allow for less obvious QUALITY and the the quirky reaction faces keep the animation lively enough.

Kaoru Chujo

2010-02-21, 15:35

This franchise isn't for me, but I thought I should know more about this new series, since the franchise is so extremely popular, and watched episode one. The drawing and animation are very good. Yes, I think the simplification makes that more possible. The story is classic. And the animation of the dance in the ED is totally outstanding.

Unicron Gendum

2010-02-22, 17:39

Consider the following.

Cure Pine:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ly0rkh.jpg

Cure Whatever:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2hovknn.jpg

Elegant Cure Pine:

http://i49.tinypic.com/svihr4.jpg

Two deformed aliens with cotton candy hair:

http://i49.tinypic.com/6i6z5k.jpg

World Protector Goddess Cure Pine:

http://i48.tinypic.com/23sw7zk.jpg

Some poodle-looking things that MIGHT try to protect us after the bad guys stop laughing at how ridiculous they are:

http://i46.tinypic.com/mj787c.jpg

Delicious Cure Pine:

http://i49.tinypic.com/jh9284.jpg

aaand I think I just lost my lunch:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2njitjk.jpg
Animesuki, what went so horribly, horribly wrong here?

Shiroth

2010-02-22, 17:41

I'm not surprised the new deisgns aren't for everyone. That's just the way the world works. :)

Midonin

2010-02-22, 17:51

Most of those examples are fanart...and if anything, I learned early on when I jumped beyond the mainstream, that you shouldn't fully judge a series by its art design. Sure, I thought Umisho was kind of weird with its style that had even less noses than usual, but I still hold fond memories of it to this day for reasons that only partially have to do with fanservice.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-02-22, 18:04

I thought SOMEONE must have been unhappy about the character designs, just a gut feeling. I think the lower then average TV ratings reflected it. But this new set of character design seem to have attracted some old skool fans who loved Ojamajo Doremi (including me). Also, less chance of QUALITY with a simpler design, but the backgrounds stayed as crap as ever.

Although I think the comparison of good Fresh fanart to bad Heartcatch fanart isn't the best comparison. Maybe official images would be a better coimparison. :heh:

momobunny

2010-02-22, 21:21

I didn't like what little I saw of Fresh that much. Not to say that I flat out disliked it, but after Passion came in it kinda felt like.

FRESH PRETTY CURE!!
Starring...
Cure Peach!!
Cure Passion!!
... oh yeah and the other two...

But it's probably just me. I hope that this doesn't turn into that, it's the reason why I started to miss when there were less Pretty Cure characters in a season. ^^;

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-22, 21:22

Midonin

2010-02-22, 21:24

... oh yeah and the other two...
Reminds me of the treatment Ran got in Gekiranger. She was lucky when she got a focus episode. But at least Miki and Bukki still got some moments to shine. Though that may have been because I was paying more attention to Miki than the others. Eri Kitamura's voice and all.

IchiKyo

2010-02-25, 01:14

Consider the following.
[...]

XD

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4301/roflbotvc5p.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9524/roflbotnmls.jpg

Desbreko

2010-02-25, 03:41

Animesuki, what went so horribly, horribly wrong here?Oh noes, my cartoons look cartoony?

SuperKnuckles

2010-02-25, 05:52

Well, same old Precure, but done a LOT better than usual. So far, it's beating up my favorite Precure series, Splash Precure. :twitch:

This might sound absolutely crazy, but this show just might have the best overall animation right alongside Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood for me. I know. Crazy.

Archaic

2010-02-25, 10:08

Why do I have the feeling that the mystery bishounen is Coupe (ie. Grandma's fat fairy) undergoing some kind of temp. human form transformation?

They do seem to be mixing up a bit of the formula with this new series. That Blossom needed to be walked through things rather than having instinctive knowledge of what to do is an interesting twist for Pretty Cure, particularly when Marine seemed to know exactly what to do from the very beginning. She wouldn't have got all that out of her dreams. Also interesting that they both seem to be able to accomplish finishing moves without needing the assistance of the other. For a duo setup, I was expecting the finishers would require them to work together, as in previous seasons. Good to see also that they're physical types, returning to the roots of the franchise a bit there instead of throwing around magical attacks like candy.

Secca

2010-02-25, 14:23

I watched, the story was kinda standard Precure stuffs. But the ending was WOW, I haven't seen anything pretty cool like that for awhile. Really amazing! ^^

SuperKnuckles

2010-02-26, 03:12

Quarkboy

2010-02-26, 03:17

If you mean the ED animation sequence, I agree. They were trying to do the whole 'dancing precure' motif with the ED since Splash Precure and with Fresh Precure, they went into the whole CGI dancing sequence. It was nice then, and now it's simply awe inspiring.

Toei has had a lot of experience with 3-d from the first two EDs of fresh,

They're doing a series of 3-d CG movies for kids http://www.anime-matsuri.com/
(including a 3-d gegege no kitaro?!)
And they really learned the ropes with Robodz in a collaboration with Disney.
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/robodz/

I wouldn't be surprised to see Toei attempt a fully 3-d CG movie in Japan soon, and maybe a TV show. Although I doubt it would be for their big properties... Too risky.

Midonin

2010-02-27, 22:22

While the girls' powers are still individualized and themed accordingly (like a Sentai team), tonight rolls out some combo stock footage that's very pleasing to the eyes (also like a Sentai team). The double henshin and double finisher are actually sort of cool. After all, the two of them are one...never mind. That's half an hour earlier. I'm still getting a laugh at how the finisher is basically the MotW being crucified. On a giant flower, but it is what it looks like.

Desbreko

2010-02-27, 22:50

The first thing I thought of when I saw Tsubomi's Pink Forte Wave used on the giant doll was Lilith from Evangelion.

IchiKyo

2010-02-28, 05:33

I wouldn't be surprised to see Toei attempt a fully 3-d CG movie in Japan soon, and maybe a TV show. Although I doubt it would be for their big properties... Too risky.

Speaking of it, i won't be surprised to see an 3D Animated Ending Dance sequence in All Stars DX2 Movie... Like the Fresh Movie?
Oh btw...
http://purikyua.spg-acg.com/prettycure/src/1267340259335.jpg
Looks like it...

oh and about Ep 4.
Kumojacky, lovely!
The rest... hard to tell but the dual transformation was good and the forte Wave attack remind me Cure Dream's Shooting Star and Gundam

musume_no_hoshi

2010-02-28, 07:20

-Did not disapoint me. How did Pretty Cure become this good? I really look forward to each episode.
-I thought this was going to be a typical 'arguing' episode, similar to the first season. It turns out to be a much more realistic miscommonication cause by the different personalities of Tsubomi and Erika. It's good developement for both of them. I really hope Toei can keep up with the characters.
-Few QUALITY moments for the animation, as expected from Pretty Cure.
-The new villian...looks so much from the 80's. But he's awesome/badass right now. -The music works really well. I hope the music wouldn't be too repetive, FMA:B kept using the same tracks for everything. No matter how great they are, they lose the effects if used too much.
-Tsubomi or more like Mizuki Nana's character song did not sound like a character song at all. Nana-chan was just using her 'moe' voice and sang it how she normally does. I never expect Nana-chan to sing in character anyway. The song itself sounded decent, similar to Nana's own b-sides. It reminded me of Song Communication.

-The preview...the default ramen episode. We're getting an 'ikemen' for the other villian. 2 bishounens? I wonder what the yaoi fangirls going to do now? :heh:

Quarkboy

2010-02-28, 08:35

Speaking of it, i won't be surprised to see an 3D Animated Ending Dance sequence in All Stars DX2 Movie... Like the Fresh Movie?
Oh btw...
http://purikyua.spg-acg.com/prettycure/src/1267340259335.jpg
Looks like it...

Wow... look at how much shorter Hearcatch Cures are compared to Fresh (and the barely visible YPC5 behind them).

I know it's true to the character designs, but even so they ARE supposed to be the same ages...

momobunny

2010-02-28, 09:12

Wow... look at how much shorter Hearcatch Cures are compared to Fresh (and the barely visible YPC5 behind them).

I know it's true to the character designs, but even so they ARE supposed to be the same ages...

I don't understand. It's not like every 13-14 year old girl has to be the same height. owo;

Besides, they're not even THAT much shorter than them.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-02-28, 23:50

I'll watch episode 4 but....

He's like Dune from Casshern SINS.

~Fancy Tea~

2010-03-01, 00:24

Conan-san

2010-03-03, 15:54

I'll watch episode 4 but....

He's like Dune from Casshern SINS.

What you talkin' bout Willis? He's totaly Captain Harlock before his space pirate days.

Shiroth

2010-03-03, 16:28

I'll watch episode 4 but....

He's like Dune from Casshern SINS.
The whole bad guy selection from this show are pretty much the character designs that were never used for Casshern Sins. :heh:

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-03-04, 00:33

The whole bad guy selection from this show are pretty much the character designs that were never used for Casshern Sins. :heh:

MAYBE Dr. Sabaku was based from Dune. And Sasorina stole Sophita's clothes.:heh:

Tatiana Razajev

2010-03-04, 00:34

While both the individual transformations have their value, I think I love the dual transformation the best. Maybe it's because of some of the actions during it.

Shiroth

2010-03-04, 04:27

MAYBE Dr. Sabaku was based from Dune. And Sasorina stole Sophita's clothes.:heh:
Exactly. :heh:

It's why i'm loving this show so much!

astranagun

2010-03-06, 17:34

With all the discussion of Casshern Sins someone has gone and done it :D

omTVke7JTOU

Shiroth

2010-03-06, 17:39

Watching that, and i just think i'm rewatching certain scenes from Casshern Sins. :heh:

FlareKnight

2010-03-06, 19:32

Watching that, and i just think i'm rewatching certain scenes from Casshern Sins. :heh:Yeah same here. That was nicely done :heh:. Now I'll have to watch the rest of this waiting for Casshern to jump in for no reason.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-03-07, 01:02

with all the discussion of casshern sins someone has gone and done it :d

omtvke7jtou

nee ima doushite bokura umaretano

musume_no_hoshi

2010-03-07, 07:53

-The default ramen episode. I didn't have much expectation for this, because I thought they wouldn't bother much with a filler episode like this. It might be just me, but I found this really enjoyable.
-This episode really shows Tsubomi's good side, noticing other people's feelings while Erika is just straight forward.
-Simplified character designs seems to have decrease the chances of QUALITY. I'm all happy. Considering episode 2 of GoGo had terrible QUALITY already.
-The physical fight is still there, and it was chorographed pretty well. The animation obviously isn't on par with episode 2, but it's much better then any other filler Pretty Cure episode I have seen before.
-They played the full duel transformation, I don't think I'll get bored of this.
-Somehow I feel the advertisement for the toys are done worse then the seasons before. They kinda just cut and paste it there for the sake of placing it there.
-I thought Cobraja was voiced by Namikawa Daisuke, guess I was wrong...:heh:
-We need more screen time for Cobraja, more ikemen jokes please <3 I love characters who believe that they're beautiful~

This episode opening included the preview for the up coming DX movie. The re-designs for HeartCatch looks pretty odd. Since they have to make them less 'cartoony' to fit in with the rest of the cast. The colours are duller too. Honestly, it doesn't look very good...but that's kinda expected.

IchiKyo

2010-03-13, 09:02

Wow... look at how much shorter Hearcatch Cures are compared to Fresh (and the barely visible YPC5 behind them).

I know it's true to the character designs, but even so they ARE supposed to be the same ages...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3asoY4snjc
Footage of DX2 from the Special TV DX2 broadcast in Tokyo MX at 19:00 in Japan
Looks like you wanted to see Cure Black and White in 3D? :p
Im surprised that they are redoning the Henshin Sequence, maybe Toei is really planned to redone all 17 Previous Cure than milking money by redoning nothing?

Midonin

2010-03-13, 21:36

Capsule comments on episode 6

FLASH! Ah~

Shiroth

2010-03-15, 08:25

Butt punch was pretty damn epic.

Liddo-kun

2010-03-15, 09:42

I keep liking the series, as I watch more episodes.

Tsubomi's weird punch is something I haven't seen done by other precures before.
Even Sasorina was puzzled on how it was done. :D

musume_no_hoshi

2010-03-15, 17:42

-This one is a proper mahou shoujo filler, I can't say I didn't enjoy it.
-Brand new power ups with heart seeds! I sense Card Captor Sakura...-cough-
-Erika in frozen mode is as hilarious as her usual self.
-I want more Zetsubo Megane =A=
-From the preview, looks like Itsuki is either a girly guy or a reverse trap...I'm rooting for the reverse trap theory.
-Why is Ono-D voicing a minor character? Is this telling us his character would play a bigger role later on? :heh: Popular seiyuus voicing minor characters is a good indicator that the character would have a larger part later on, as proven from FMA:B.

We're on the 8th page already, the original Pretty Cure thread was 10 pages long with 2 seasons. Pretty Cure 5 was 8 pages for both seasons. Looks like this would be the most active pretty cure thread? xD

Shiroth

2010-03-15, 17:46

From the preview, looks like Itsuki is either a girly guy or a reverse trap...I'm rooting for the reverse trap theory.
I spent most of this episode thinking he was a girl, so i certainly wouldn't be shocked if that turned out to be the case. I'm hoping for a reverse trap, and wow that would make for some pretty good comedy later on.

Why is Ono-D voicing a minor character? Is this telling us his character would play a bigger role later on? :heh: Popular seiyuus voicing minor characters is a good indicator that the character would have a larger part later on, as proven from FMA:B.
The only logical explanation is that he'll voice an important character later on, like you said. Still, i did find that pretty :heh:.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-03-19, 15:46

Oh my, the opening and ending single for Heartcatch Pretty Cure ranked 1st in its 3rd day on the daily Oricon charts. Selling 3,981, about 1k above 2nd place. I wouldn't be surprised this is due to the audience for Pretty Cure are normal people and they only had time to buy it on the weekends.

I find it very interesting that it sold more on the 3rd day then the first (3rd place sold 3,297) or the second day (3rd place sold 3,007). It only debuted at 6th on the first day and 4th on the 2nd day.

The full versions are really catchy, completed with the anison guitar solo. :heh:

musume_no_hoshi

2010-03-21, 06:24

-REVERSE TRAP! REVERSE TRAP! REVERSE TRAP!
-I personally think Zetsubo Megane is a different person, possibly Itsuki's brother or something
-Ah the yuri-bait ~ Tsubomi as a fangirl is too adorable for words. Even Erika liked Itsuki-sama once upon a time...:heh:
-So Itsuki is a reverse trap otomen? She's also a badass normal...I'm an Itsuki fangirl from now on.
-This episode action scene was given to Erika, it does look like she's stronger then Tsubomi.
-Cobraja's action to Itsuki being a girl was lolz. No one would be more fabulous then you, Cobraja.

-The new DX movie looks...meh...too much Pretty Cures and the animation looks crappy for a movie release...

Liddo-kun

2010-03-21, 09:41

The full versions are really catchy, completed with the anison guitar solo. :heh:

Have to agree, the full versions are quite catchy.
Alright Heartcatch Precure! (track 01) is my favourite. :)

Scans:

http://thebenevolent.net/imghost/files/2v6gu1i901mksptxwfku_thumb.jpg (http://thebenevolent.net/imghost/viewer.php?file=2v6gu1i901mksptxwfku.jpg)

http://thebenevolent.net/imghost/files/q30xqgi92usuorz6zlmm_thumb.jpg (http://thebenevolent.net/imghost/viewer.php?file=q30xqgi92usuorz6zlmm.jpg)

http://thebenevolent.net/imghost/files/300mjihxpwno588dm6e_thumb.jpg (http://thebenevolent.net/imghost/viewer.php?file=300mjihxpwno588dm6e.jpg)

justsomeguy

2010-03-21, 10:33

I'm pleasantly surprised that Tsubomi found out the secret so early through an off-hand greeting. In any other show, the big reveal would have been stretched out with little hints over the entire episode, or happen at the end.

Shiroth

2010-03-21, 10:58

-REVERSE TRAP! REVERSE TRAP! REVERSE TRAP!
You've just made my day.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-03-22, 05:07

musume_no_hoshi

2010-03-24, 12:03

Heartcatch Pretty Cure op/end single sold 13,384 and ranked 3rd in the weekly charts. But god, this week is sure weak. The no.1 single only sold 27k (I thought it was 270k...then I noticed I've read it wrong). It's scary how different your rank could be depending on the week.

fertygo

2010-03-29, 16:05

Oh my god, this episode just full of win

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1169/doremiheartcatchprecure.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/doremiheartcatchprecure.jpg/)

Momoka_;

And its weird how erika can hate/dislike fun sister like Momoko aside jealousy to her big sister. But in the end its cleared =)

momobunny

2010-03-29, 20:01

Oh my god, this episode just full of win

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1169/doremiheartcatchprecure.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/doremiheartcatchprecure.jpg/)

Momoko ;_;

And its weird how erika can hate/dislike fun sister like Momoko aside jealousy to her big sister. But in the end its cleared =)

Momoka

... so far she's my favorite character. Though, I haven't seen episode 8 yet.

Shiroth

2010-03-30, 03:42

... so far she's my favorite character. Though, I haven't seen episode 8 yet.
Then you're going to love it. :p

fertygo

2010-03-30, 05:03

Momoka

... so far she's my favorite character. Though, I haven't seen episode 8 yet.

oops
maybe i already half asleep when i watching and writing that post :p

You gonna love it more sir :D

Gah... i want fun sister like her too !!!
World is not fair !!!

:heh:

SuperKnuckles

2010-03-30, 05:13

H! I! N! A! G! I! K! U! HINAGIKU!

err... never mind.. :heh:

Sageblink

2010-03-30, 11:55

Am I the only one to think that...

Yuri is actually Cure Moonlight ? And that the "prince" is going to discover her girly-side as the yellow Precure ?

Tempester

2010-03-30, 21:49

Am I the only one to think that...

Yuri is actually Cure Moonlight ? And that the "prince" is going to discover her girly-side as the yellow Precure ?

No, you aren't alone. Yuri gave me "plot-important" vibes with her "serious" drawn eye style.

Archaic

2010-03-31, 00:10

No, you aren't alone. Yuri gave me "plot-important" vibes with her "serious" drawn eye style.

Just went to try and check this by looking at who the VA's were for Cure Moonlight and Yuri, since the voices do sound a bit similar. Interestingly enough, while Yuri's VA is listed in the credits to episode 8, Cure Moonlight's VA is listed only as "?" in the episode 1 credits.

Both characters do have very similar builds and hairstyles. I'd say you're right on the money with this guess.

7Th

2010-03-31, 00:58

Yuri is indeed Cure Moonlight; Toei's official site did a rather foolish thing a while ago and, in the character listing page, they had picture "014a.jpg" be Cure Moonlight. People played around with the name and found that changing the "a" in "014a.jpg" for a "b" got you a picture of Yuri. That was corrected, however... but the memory of their mistake remains. :heh:

Archaic

2010-03-31, 02:09

Yuri is indeed Cure Moonlight; Toei's official site did a rather foolish thing a while ago and, in the character listing page, they had picture "014a.jpg" be the Cure Moonlight. People played around with the name and found that changing the "a" in the "014a.jpg" for a "b" so that it read 014b.jpg" shown a picture of Yuri. That was corrected, however... but the memory of their mistake remains. :heh:

If Yuri is Cure Moonlight, then I wonder if Tsurusaki-sensei (http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/hc_precure/chara/ch10.html) could be the mysterious Dark PreCure.

Shiroth

2010-03-31, 03:39

If Yuri is Cure Moonlight, then I wonder if Tsurusaki-sensei (http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/hc_precure/chara/ch10.html) could be the mysterious Dark PreCure.
I wouldn't be surprised, going by that evil expression she's giving off in the bottom left corner face shot. :heh:

justsomeguy

2010-03-31, 10:22

If Yuri is Cure Moonlight, then I wonder if Tsurusaki-sensei (http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/hc_precure/chara/ch10.html) could be the mysterious Dark PreCure.
She looks more like Sasorina than Dark PreCure. Does DPC even leave the masked guy's side?

Sageblink

2010-03-31, 19:28

Yuri is indeed Cure Moonlight; Toei's official site did a rather foolish thing a while ago and, in the character listing page, they had picture "014a.jpg" be the Cure Moonlight. People played around with the name and found that changing the "a" in the "014a.jpg" for a "b" so that it read 014b.jpg" shown a picture of Yuri. That was corrected, however... but the memory of their mistake remains. :heh:

So it's confirmed.
Thanks for the information, 7TH ! :)

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-04-02, 19:18

musume_no_hoshi

2010-04-04, 13:00

-I always thought how did Tsubomi's parents support the family with only a flower shop. Now I can assmume that her parents earned more money before they had a flower shop.
-The back flash of Tsubomi being loneyly was more powerful then I expected. It brought tears to my eyes.
-The next episode looks interesting. The Dark Cure is appearing already, I thought we'll have to wait till the middle of the series at least. When are we going to see Yuri as Cure Moonlight?

Shiroth

2010-04-05, 04:54

Very good episode, one that truly made me smile towards the end.

Best scene was the flashback, showing Tsubomi's feelings towards her parents always leaving for research trips. It was a very hard hitting scene, especially with that very fitting and powerful piece of music. It was classic Takanashi Yasuharu all over.

Next weeks episode is going to be very interesting, going by that preview. Just likemusume_no_hoshi, i was expecting it to happen half way in.

Archaic

2010-04-05, 09:57

Couple of things I noticed, now that they're back to the regular opening for episode 9.

It's pretty obvious Yuri is Cure Moonlight. They have her, with hair down, standing in front of the Heart Tree.

Interestingly though, Cure Moonlight shows up later in the opening....grouped together with the guy who appears to be the leader of the villains. Dark Precure actually shows up alone in the next cut, which suggests to me that Dark Precure will be the actual "final boss" as it were.

Also, it was suggested earlier that a certain karate shoujo could be a 3rd Precure later on. If that's the case, based on how the characters are paired up during some of the earlier sections, I think we should consider a certain news chasing shoujo as the potential 4th. Both have to be important, since besides the heroes and villians, they're the only characters whose faces actually show up clearly and identifiably in the opening.

Maceart

2010-04-05, 10:37

Tsubomi as a little child was quite diabetes inducing.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-04-05, 21:39

This is for next week:

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/WingKnightZero/Lolcats/roflbot-peoF.jpg

Shiroth

2010-04-06, 03:27

Yeah she's so a character design that wasn't used for Casshern Sins. Along with most of the cast for this show.

Tempester

2010-04-06, 03:43

Wow. This episode hit all the right notes for me.

I actually expected Tsubomi to be the victim of the week for most of the episode. I sympathized with Tsubomi; I sometimes feel lonely and empty when I'm left alone in my house for an extended period of time. The way her (extremely touching!) past and present relationship with her parents and Obata's personal troubles were weaved together was absolutely seamless.

Aside from that, the animation was top-notch for Toei, even though I haven't even seen a bad-looking episode yet! Cobraja was really funny and amusing in this episode, especially his reaction when he found out the Precures weren't literally waiting for him.

I think this is best Heartcatch episode so far. Looking forward to the rest of the series. I hope the creators can prove to us that they can pull more tricks and ideas in the next 80% of the show.

Liddo-kun

2010-04-09, 19:57

Found the translation for the full version of the opening theme at TV-Nihon's forum (http://tvnihon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=6603) (translated by Magenta).
I enjoy the full version even more now that the translation is known.

HeartCatch Precure!
Alright!

HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Saa minna de (Hai! Hai!)
Now, altogether! (Yes! Yes!)
HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Hana sakaseyou
Let's make our flowers bloom!

(Smile! HeartCatch! Precure!)

Sorezore no mune mebae hajimeteru
Within each of our chests, they begin to sprout
Kokoro no tane (Fly) Sukoshizutsu (High) Ookiku natta yo
The seeds of the heart (Fly) are growing (High) bit by bit

Aka shiro kiiro fukuramu tsubomi wa
Red, white and yellow, it's because these blooming buds are
Zenbu chigau (Heart!) Iro dakara (Catch!) Kagayaiteru ne!
All varied (Heart!) colours that (Catch!) they shine so brightly

Omoiyari de sodatta (HeartCatch Precure!)
That smile you've nurtured... (HeartCatch Precure!)
Sono egao wa karenai (Zettai!)
With such care shall never wither! (Never!)

Alright!

HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Saa minna de (Hai! Hai!)
Now, altogether! (Yes! Yes!)
HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Hana sakaseyou
Let's make our flowers bloom!

Itsumo minna no (Yes!) chikaku ni iru
They're always right (Yes!) by our sides
Issho ni kireina kokoro no hana (Hai! Hai! Hai! Hai!)
So together let's make those pretty flowers of our hearts... (Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!)
Sakasetsuzukeyou
Bloom even more!
HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!

(Try! HeartCatch! Precure!)
(Dream! HeartCatch! Precure!)

Kirakira terasu ohisama no moto de
When you walk beneath the sun twinkling down from the sky
Hi no hikari wo (Sky) abiteru to (High) Genki ni nareru ne
And it's light (Sky) shines down on you, (High) you feel a little better, right?

Ima wa konna ni chiisana hana dakedo
Your flowers may be small as they are
Daichi no shita (Heart!) Ne wo hatte (Catch!) Tsuyoku narou yo
But beneath the soil (Heart!) their roots take hold (Catch!) and become stronger

Tsumetai kaze fukou to (HeartCatch Precure!)
And even when the cold wind blows (HeartCatch Precure!)
Sono yuuki wa orenai (Mirai he!)
That courage shall never falter (Towards the future!)

Alright!

HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Yume ippai (Hai! Hai!)
Bearing so many dreams (Yes! Yes!)
HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Hana hiraku yo
The flower opens wide

Hana mo mi mo aru (Yes!) Ashita ga kuru
There's a future awaiting (Yes!) all these flowers and seeds
Sora he to nobiteku kokoro no ki ni (Hai! Hai! Hai! Hai!)
So as they reach to the sky and become a Tree of the Heart (Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!)
Kibou sakihokoru
Keep your hopes at full bloom!

(HeartCatch!)
(Precure!)

Donna hana ga saitemo
And no matter what flower may bloom
Hitotsu hitotsu tokubetsu (Saikou!)
Each and every one is special (The greatest!)

Alright!

HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Inochi ga, hora
Behold all things that live
HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Kirameiteru
They're shining so brightly!

Alright!

HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Saa minna de (Hai! Hai!)
Now, altogether! (Yes! Yes!)
HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!
Hana sakaseyou
Let's make our flowers bloom!

Itsumo minna no (Yes!) chikaku ni iru
They're always right (Yes!) by our sides
Issho ni kireina kokoro no hana (Hai! Hai! Hai! Hai!)
So together let's make those pretty flowers of our hearts... (Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!)
Sakasetsuzukeyou
Bloom even more!
HeartCatch Precure!
HeartCatch Precure!

musume_no_hoshi

2010-04-11, 07:32

-Fuaaaaaah...plot episode already?! You never get this sort of pacing for the seasons before.
-This episode is done wit the 'A-team'. The animation been pretty consistant, I still remember how Go!Go's animation can vary quite alot.
-The pacing for this episode is actually very fast. They did it quite well but I wouldn't it being split into two episodes.
-The weird explosion attack from the opening is here, they just recycled the animation from the opening.
-Dark Pretty Cure is awesome. She is an awesome bad ass. You got love her wing and eye. Looks like she's made by the professor and would only become a real Pretty Cure after defeating Tsubomi and Erika? Or something along those lines.
-Yuri is honestly a kuudere dark tall bishoujo. I'm waiting for her deredere moment.
-Zetsubo Megane is back. This time with school uniform <3
-The final scene with Tsubomi and Erika defeated and Yuri standing behind had a really strong mysterious feel to it. Seeing Tsubomi and Erika supporting each other...-sob-

-Next episode, filler episode. Looks like some sort of Bruce Lee default episode. Comparison of some ratings for the Pretty Cure series:

Ep. 1 | Best | Avg. | Series
7.7%　9.7%　7.3% - Futari wa PreCure
8.0%　9.8%　7.9% - Futari wa PreCure Max Heart
8.8%　8.8%　6.4% - Futari PreCure Splash Star
7.4%　8.6%　6.5% - Yes! PreCure 5
6.7%　7.5%　5.6% - Yes! PreCure 5 GoGo!
7.4%　8.1%　6.5% - Fresh PreCure!
6.6%　8.4%　7.5% - Heartcatch PreCure! (up to episode 7)

From the TV ratings threadHCPC's best rating is already higher then Fresh and Go!Go, and it's only on its 7th episode. The average is higher then all seasons but Max Heart, the average might drop as more episode air though. But I'm guessing Heartcatch is doing quite well in the ratings department.

Shiroth

2010-04-12, 04:38

Man that was one hardcore Casshern Sins episode. All we needed was Furuya Toru and a Kaoru Wada score, and it would have been perfect. :heh:

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-04-12, 17:26

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/WingKnightZero/Casshern/casshern5_73.jpg

"Dark Pretty Cure, if you dare to hurt my friends again, then you're going through me!"

Aoi Jun

2010-04-17, 01:32

Been watching this series since the first episode and I have to say HeartCatch have become my fav Pretty Cure.

Episode 10 was trully awesome and I eager to watch episode 11.
The concept that a precure have to learn martial art is refreshing. Usualy they just "magically" know how to fight.
:D

I been reading Wikipedia article about HeartCatch Precure and in there, there is an entry about Cure Sunshine. That Itsuki Myōdōin become Cure Sunshine.
Is it true? Which episode is that? Because from the fansub till episode 10, I haven't seen it and when I search in google there no news about it.

Anyway.....
Here some thing I got from the net.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p282/aoi_jun/Heartcatch%20Precure/LuckyStar-HeartcatchPrecure-Konata.jpg

Archaic

2010-04-17, 23:14

From watching the episodes so far, I would've said they already got the magically knowing how to fight part. Maybe they want to be able to fight the mooks even without their powers, just in case something happens again?

Midonin

2010-04-17, 23:34

Which episode is that?
None of them, as of tonight.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-04-18, 06:42

-One of the weaker episodes, filler episode. Not I expected every episode to be great.
-At least they still added a tiny little bit of character developement for Tsubomi. :heh:
-GAH...the QUALITY. Too much off model this episode. Which team worked on this episode again? The fight scene was longer then usual at least...
-Next episode, filler episode. Oh well, we're going to get Cure Moonlight episodes afterwards, so it's fine.

Mizuki Nana posted a photo of her having that 'Blossom tact'...why do I have a feeling I would buy it if I actually see it? :heh:

Kaoru Chujo

2010-04-18, 21:57

Uh-oh. I broke down and watched episode one. Absolutely outstanding backgrounds and animation. And something going on with the characters and maybe the story, too. I guess I see why this is so popular: this, Angel Beats, and K-On are by far the most posted-about shows on 2channel right now. And that has nothing to do with the TV ratings, which represent the show's other audience of young girls.

Shiroth

2010-04-19, 05:08

Yeah it was nothing special of an episode, though or provided a few laughs, and the homage to Martial Arts films was pretty nice. Shame about the animation not being that good, though then again it's better they save the best for when it counts.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-04-19, 10:54

I guess I see why this is so popular: this, Angel Beats, and K-On are by far the most posted-about shows on 2channel right now. And that has nothing to do with the TV ratings, which represent the show's other audience of young girls.Wah? I know this is more popular with otakus compared to the seasons before, but one of the most talked shows on 2ch? It's pretty popular on Pixiv too, HCPC pops up on the top 50 quite frequently.

I wonder how this would fare with the DVDs. Shugo Chara was pretty popular with otakus but the DVD sale was really low, as expected for a children anime.

Quarkboy

2010-04-19, 12:35

Wah? I know this is more popular with otakus compared to the seasons before, but one of the most talked shows on 2ch? It's pretty popular on Pixiv too, HCPC pops up on the top 50 quite frequently.

I wonder how this would fare with the DVDs. Shugo Chara was pretty popular with otakus but the DVD sale was really low, as expected for a children anime.

Pretty Cure is seeing a revival on 4chan, too.

Frankly I don't get it either... The season is good but it's not really all that different than it's been the past 6 years.

Perhaps it's just _time_, as they say.

Shiroth

2010-04-19, 13:04

Well i know for a lot of us, it being basically a sequel to Casshern Sins is one hell of a bonus while watching. :p

musume_no_hoshi

2010-04-19, 14:57

And for some of us, it's the closest thing to a sequal to Ojamajo Doremi. Just for the slightly old skool mahou shoujo fans...:heh:

I also think Mizuki Nana voicing tsubomi had some effect. Surely some otakus must have thought 'I'll watch the first episode to hear Nana-chan', it's part of the reason why I started it too.

We getting some major revelations like 1 cour in, that is twice of the speed of other seasons, which takes about 2 cours to get anywhere. The physical fight scenes is back from the first generation too. More consistant animation too.

FireChick

2010-04-25, 05:49

I just saw episode 9 and I absolutely LOVED it! But does anyone know who voices that Obata guy? I KNOW I know his voice, but I want it confirmed first.

Archaic

2010-04-26, 06:52

Episode 13 is going to be another plot episode? O.O Man, they're really moving quick with this one, aren't they?

Shiroth

2010-04-26, 09:44

Episode 13 is going to be another plot episode? O.O Man, they're really moving quick with this one, aren't they?
I hope they stick to the 'two episodes filler, then plot episode' formula. At the beginning it was alright having a lot of filler because we were still getting used to the themes and style of the show, though now we're past that.

Archaic

2010-04-26, 15:07

Has any prior Precure series had so much plot so quickly though?

Aoi Jun

2010-04-27, 08:57

Has any prior Precure series had so much plot so quickly though?

Well.....

I only know Futari wa Pretty Cure and Fresh Pretty Cure, and they don't have a very fast development plot wise.
:heh:

Archaic

2010-05-02, 04:28

Well, we knew it was going to have plot, but that was rather more than I expected.

After watching this latest episode, I'm convinced that the big boss is none other than the missing father of Yuri / Cure Moonlight. He went missing in search of the Heart Tree, in the opening you see him and Cure Moonlight in the same shot (interesting enough, when they're introducing the bad guys), and Dark PreCure has now made statements to the effect that she and Cure Moonlight are one and the same person. Could they possibly drop more hints?

Shiroth

2010-05-03, 07:34

After watching this latest episode, I'm convinced that the big boss is none other than the missing father of Yuri / Cure Moonlight. He went missing in search of the Heart Tree, in the opening you see him and Cure Moonlight in the same shot (interesting enough, when they're introducing the bad guys), and Dark PreCure has now made statements to the effect that she and Cure Moonlight are one and the same person. Could they possibly drop more hints?
Yeah i'd believe the speculation that end boss is Yuri's Father, especially with that shot in the OP. I mean we learnt that he has been missing for three years, and looking for the heart tree pretty much makes him an obvious target for this theory.

I guess the only matter the hints aren't being dropped on is the mystery of the good looking guy who keeps on saving our heroes.

Archaic

2010-05-03, 07:47

Yeah i'd believe the speculation that end boss is Yuri's Father, especially with that shot in the OP. I mean we learnt that he has been missing for three years, and looking for the heart tree pretty much makes him an obvious target for this theory.

I guess the only matter the hints aren't being dropped on is the mystery of the good looking guy who keeps on saving our heroes.

I thought that one was pretty obvious. It's Koppe-sama.

Shiroth

2010-05-03, 07:49

I thought that one was pretty obvious. It's Koppe-sama.
Interesting speculation, and seeing as though there's pretty much no one else it could be, then yes i'd agree. Wouldn't say it's obvious though.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-05-03, 09:51

Has any prior Precure series had so much plot so quickly though?No. Every season gets a little climax around 25-26th episode (middle of the series). Max Heart had more plot though, took a while till Hikari was introduced. -First thing I noticed. NIHON! TAKAHASHI HIROKI! Yeah.
-Tsubomi is actually weirder then Erika this episode.
-Erika breathing through a bamboo pipe was hilarious...The weird superdeform faces are always win.
-The final attack is some sort of healing method I guess?-The animation had quite a bit of QUALITY moments yet there was some scenes with really smooth animation. I guess Toei had some tight deadlines. Hopefully it'll be fixed for the DVD, not that I'll ever have the chance to see that :heh:
-I never really thought that Yuri was born human, I expected her to be more of a magical being. Born in some other universe and Yuri was just her identity on Earth.
-Too much deux ex machina with Zetsubo Megane. Yeah. Koppe-sama being Zetsubo Megane as a theory? Are we getting interspecie romance here similar to Pretty Cure 5? :heh:
-I agree with the theory that the Professor is Yuri's father. Look at the hair! IT seems to make sense that the Professor used his own daughter as the blue print for Dark Pretty Cure. How did a random dad in Japan knew about the Heart Tree? Looks like there might be a little bit of sci-fi...:heh:
-I have a feeling that powerful attack from Dark Pretty Cure's yellow must have some sort of limitation. Probably sucks her life energy or something.
-There's alot of plot established in 13 episodes (for a mahou shoujo like this), I can see the pacing being quite constant. Hopefully some plot episode is fairly frequent. Yuri and Dark Pretty Cure would have alot of character development I believe.
-Erika's 'Onee-chama' was adorable...I swear Shizuka Itou's reaction must be the total opposite of Momo-nee.

-Mother's day episode. Of course there's going to be one.

Archaic

2010-05-09, 03:44

It might be filler, but that was some high class heartwarming filler, IMO. The character of the day seemed to steal the spotlight here, but that wasn't really a problem with how the episode was structured, and I expect it might've been done to give the main Seiyuu a little bit of a mid-season break.

So, the student council president comes back into it. About time. Interesting that Tsubomi still seems to be gushing over her though. Not just in the small parts of the episode we saw, but in the preview voiceover as well. I wonder if they're laying down the hints for her to become the 3rd.

momobunny

2010-05-09, 18:50

My absolute favorite filler episode so far. I'd love to see more of Nanami and Rumi. *w*

Shiroth

2010-05-10, 04:28

That was such a A+ heartwarming episode. I wasn't expecting something like this from a filler, which was truly a nice surprise. Finding out the reason why Nanami was saying a smile is the most important was such a hard hitting scene. I was in complete tears just from that alone.

Looking forward to the return of the student council president next week. It's about time i say.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-05-10, 10:12

-That was one big tear jerker filler episode. Didn't expect a filler episode to be a tear jerker.
-NamiNami would be part of the fasion club long with the 3 random girls and trap-chan Itsuki.
-So the Heart flower can be locked? Wonder would they change the format of troubled-person-of-the-week monster around mid-way? Shugo Chara changed it from little purple thingies to actual person transformation. As much as I think Toei might be inspired/reminded by Shugo Chara to do the troubled person trapped in a monster trope, Toei definitely did a better job.
-The animation is better this week then last week...despite last week was a plot episode...:heh: I can't spot any terrible QUALITY moment.

-Itsuki is back next episode...I wonder would she wear that cute dress thingie from the manga
-What is Pretty Cure without the yuri undertones? ^_^;;

7Th

2010-05-10, 12:55

-What is Pretty Cure without the yuri undertones? ^_^;;

Tsubomi on Itsuki wearing cute clothes: "It's wonderful! Too wonderful! I'm completely taken in by the charisma of the School Council President!"

:heh:

Liddo-kun

2010-05-11, 20:35

It's a little sad, but still one of the more memorable Precure episodes I've ever seen. It's perfect for Mother's Day. :)

musume_no_hoshi

2010-05-16, 06:18

-The pacing was too fast. They really should have splitted this little arc into 2 episodes. But this is a mahou shoujo, all monster of the week cannot be monster of the fortnight...
-This episode could have been alot better if it wasn't the pacing...
-The animation was decent.
-Making clothes is serious business...
-Itsuki's colour is yellow. When are you going to transform into Cure Sunshine?
-Kumojacky steals the show with his 'Big bang Kumojacky Speciaaaaal!' I wish they adapted the manga where Kumojacky jumps out in a street fighter like costume...
-Itsuki is a Pretty Cure fanboygirl. :heh:
-The show keeps going how 'cute' the clothes are, despite they're incredibly average. If Shugo Chara manages to design some awesome clothes, why can't Pretty Cure do the same?

-Next episode is on Erika!
-Looks like some filler characters do reappear from time to time. Similar to Ojamajo Doremi.
-Yup, there's more and more toys appearing...If I was eight, I would have rushed out to buy the heart link toy...
-I remember seeing some Pretty Cure official plushies in Hong Kong couple of years ago. I hope they have Heartcatch ones this year...*_*

Liddo-kun

2010-05-21, 06:25

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Link to larger version (9.16 mb):

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Archaic

2010-05-21, 10:00

Those kigurumi of the cures in that scan are...disturbing.

EDIT:
Okay, this just clicked for me.
Oh and Cure Moonlight is obviously voiced by Hisakawa Aya, I have no idea why did they ???'d her. Perhaps, she's gonna return somehow.
Cure Moonlight is Sailor Mercury. Oo;

EDIT 2:
Feels a little silly to be editing this repeatedly, but I don't want to double post, so...
Just saw the new ep. Not bad, but honestly nothing to write home about. Next week however....plot! Again! What the hell is this!?! Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but I can't think of any magical girl series which engaged in so much character building and plot development so early in its run.

momobunny

2010-05-23, 16:45

Honestly, if it took too long to get to the character development and major plot points, I'd lose interest and stop watching partway through. So I'm glad that they're doing it early on as well. ^^;

Archaic

2010-05-24, 06:49

How did you ever manage to watch any other magical girl anime that's ever screened then? ^^;

momobunny

2010-05-24, 11:49

How did you ever manage to watch any other magical girl anime that's ever screened then? ^^;

When did I say I did? The only ones that I managed to get through were Sailor Moon and... well... this would be the second. ^^;

Archaic

2010-05-24, 15:45

Ah, fair enough then. ^^;;;

I do wonder if more plot is being written into this series in order to attract back some of the older fans who might have "grown out" of Pretty Cure in past years. The whole fashion angle makes a bit more sense in that context as well. Little kids might not really appreciate that, but I bet you the middle schoolers and early high schoolers do.

momobunny

2010-05-24, 16:51

They may be trying to broaden the fanbase a little... I can see how it would attract older fans as well as younger fans now.

I must say, I enjoyed this week's episode as well.

Quarkboy

2010-05-24, 22:39

Archaic

2010-05-25, 02:49

Quarkboy

2010-05-25, 05:22

Speaking of which, I haven't been keeping up with that side of things recently. What are they flogging this season? I assumed the Tact's, the perfume (with refills!), and costumes based off their Precure outfits. What are they releasing to play up that fashion club angle? Seems a little hard to do that without having things where the connection to the show is very tenuous.

There's a playset for "Fairy Drop", Erika's store.

It works with the Cure figures (the same way they had a playset for Natts House).

I think there's also dress-up mix and match card sets like you see in this episode.

Shiroth

2010-06-01, 08:45

Decent episode. Not as much of a plot episode as we thought, though it's nice to see more Yuri.

Oh god that preview. Just when the Casshern Sins references start to cool down, we get a character who looks just like Casshern. :heh:

fertygo

2010-06-01, 11:29

see the episode 17 > look the preview > ZOMGWTFBBQ Casshern/Seiya !!! O__O
lets hope Furuya Tohru will make a cameo :bow:

Shiroth

2010-06-01, 11:54

lets hope Furuya Tohru will make a cameo :bow:
Oh my i hope so.

7Th

2010-06-01, 12:56

Episode 17 was fine, but the victim of the week was probably the lamest victim of the week to date. I'm sad they used one of the best Heartcatch animation teams on such weak character designs.

Regardless, episode 18 looks absolutely incredible. Can't wait.

Archaic

2010-06-06, 17:22

Alright, own up, who else thought that the character of the week here was Kumojacky at first? The only bad thing about him is that he's unlikely to be a recurring character, given that he's not in the opening at all.

Shiroth

2010-06-07, 15:10

Alright, own up, who else thought that the character of the week here was Kumojacky at first?
Not me. Ban was more of a Casshern and Seiya look alike then anything else. Though saying that a few of us here have been saying that Kumojacky is basically a character design that wasn't used for Casshern Sins. :p

Great episode. Worked out being a great homage to all the hot blooded titles of the past, especially with the the amount of old styles shown during the different manga scenes. I especially loved the scene where Tsubomi and Erika were acting out that scene. Truly epic.

Also i was wondering. Has anything official been said yet about the episode count for this show?

momobunny

2010-06-07, 21:46

I'm guessing that there will probably be about 50 episodes or so... but I've not read anything relating to that so I wouldn't know. ^^;

This week's episode was splendid! I really liked Ban and his mom and the episode just seemed to breeze by without my noticing how quickly it went (which is usually a good thing). =w=
I also like their summer uniforms and clothes...

Aiagas

2010-06-07, 22:42

HeartCatch PreCure, well I've watched only 10 episodes as of now. I'm still downloading them from DoReMi Fansubs, I really need to catch up. My favorite Character in HeartCatch PreCure is Erika Kurumi, as you can tell from my Avatar.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-06-08, 07:17

-That was one hot blooded episode. I love the old skool art style used through out the episode.
-Summer school uniform! I prefer the winter one, the summer one looks kinda plain.
-The hotblood injokes are great.
-I swear it's impossible to finish off a manga that's not even inked within 2 days. Let's not talk about how frequent these manga competitions are, I'm sure Ban-kun could have waited for the next one.
-Even Tsubomi and Erika subconsciously made a yuri yuri ending...What is Pretty Cure without teh yuri? :heh:
-I thought Ban-kun's voice sounded familar, Okiayu Ryotaro. I only heard this voice of his once in this special radio drama he did with Onosaka Masaya (he played passerby B in one of these Heartcatch episode). Inoue Kikuko was easy to recognise (eternally 17 years old). For some weird reason, Pretty Cure managed to get some well known seiyuu for random filler episodes. Definitely alot more frequently then Shugo Chara.

-Where's Cure Sunshine? Even figurines of her are already made...

7Th

2010-06-08, 08:21

-Where's Cure Sunshine? Even figurines of her are already made...

Her fairy partner, Potpurri, is arriving in episode 20 and episode 21 is about how Potpurri, Chipre and Coffre try to find a suitable third Precure.

Aiagas

2010-06-09, 16:14

Okay I'm almost there, I've seen 16 episodes, now I still need to catch up!

FireChick

2010-06-24, 09:34

That's strange. Why isn't episode 19 subbed yet? Normally it should've been so by now.

Shiroth

2010-06-24, 09:53

Normally it should've been so by now.
No it shouldn't have. There's no release schedule for subs, and we're lucky enough that we've been getting them. It'll be released when it's released.

FireChick

2010-06-24, 12:28

Oh. Alright then. I was just curious.

musume_no_hoshi

2010-06-27, 07:42

Archaic

2010-06-28, 08:40

-Animation is more consistant and smoother then your average filler episode.
-Dune-sama makes his first appearence! Midorikawa Hikaru <3 A bishounen final boss?
-Cure Flower used to be a bishoujo...with long wavey fluffy hair...So Dune-sama has some history with Tsubomi's grandma? :heh::heh::heh:
-Erika clinging to Tsubomi's leg was cute <3
-I never realise that the Heart Tree was floating...You can never have enough Dark Pretty Cure. Oh the Heart Tree can teleport too...
-I wish Kumojacky and Cobraja did more then that. I guess the three villians are just there for the sake of being a comedy trio.
-Is it me...but there's LOADS of zettai ryouiki? Yeah.
-The Heart Seed doesn't come from golden poop anymore...

-KEN-CHAN BEING A PRETTY CURE!
-From the episode titles, look like we're in for a quite a few plot episodes with Cure Sunshine <3
-I'm waiting for a opening update and a new ending soon.

Oh good, so I'm not the only person who that about the Heart Seeds. I'm surprised it took this long to change, to be honest.

There was certainly a lot of zettai ryouiki, though absolutely no panty shots. I guess the animators have finally figured out a way to please their obsessive male fanbase without upsetting the parents of their young girl fanbase.

As for a certain person...

Cure Sunshine is going to turn up for the first time in Episode 22, according to the July 2010 issue of Nakayoshi magazine. It most certainly appears to be our favourite student council president, though that's not guaranteed. Considering the opening sequence to the show though, if she doesn't become Cure Sunshine, it's probably only a matter of time until she becomes a Cure Something.

bombyethan1000

2010-06-28, 08:46

so...there actually have been panty shots in this fantasy magical girl anime?

Shiroth

2010-06-30, 05:11

Listening to the first soundtrack, and even though it doesn't feature ever piece we've heard so far, there's 31 pieces here that are all solid, and with great soundtrack placement. It's seriously classic Yasuharu Takanashi.

Quarkboy

2010-06-30, 05:24

so...there actually have been panty shots in this fantasy magical girl anime?

To my knowledge, absolutely never in its 250+ episode history.

In fact ever since Cure White, no Pretty Cure has worn panties at all, it's been spats or bloomers (the old fashioned kind, not the gym shorts kind) (with the one exception of stockings for Cure Passion).

And Cure White's underwear was never seen (well, outside of buying a figure of her and turning it upside down, anyway).

7Th

2010-06-30, 17:31

Cure Sunshine is going to turn up for the first time in Episode 22, according to the July 2010 issue of Nakayoshi magazine. It most certainly appears to be our favourite student council president, though that's not guaranteed. Considering the opening sequence to the show though, if she doesn't become Cure Sunshine, it's probably only a matter of time until she becomes a Cure Something.

Nah, it's not uncertain; it's 100% confirmed Itsuki is Sunshine. Houko Kuwashima, Itsuki's VA, was with Mizuki Nana, Fumie Mizusawa and Aya Hisakawa in a recent recording event. She is also singing one of the four songs in the Heartcatch Vocal Collection, the other three are being sung by the VAs of the other three Cures.

momobunny

2010-07-01, 12:32

Awww Potpourri is adorable! >w<

kache

2010-07-01, 13:33

To my knowledge, absolutely never in its 250+ episode history.

In fact ever since Cure White, no Pretty Cure has worn panties at all, it's been spats or bloomers (the old fashioned kind, not the gym shorts kind) (with the one exception of stockings for Cure Passion).

And Cure White's underwear was never seen (well, outside of buying a figure of her and turning it upside down, anyway).
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5685/2312.th.jpg (http://img805.imageshack.us/i/2312.jpg/)

Wow, she is ... Beautiful! O_O

Sadly, I wasn't able to see more than 5 episodes of Fresh Pretty Cure... :(

EDIT: no, wait, that was Yes.
Gotta find subs for Fresh.

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-07-01, 20:00

Awww Potpourri is adorable! >w<

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/WingKnightZero/Lolcats/roflbot-Xdi3.jpg

Shiroth

2010-07-07, 04:54

Pretty funny episode, i must say. Potpuorri's reactions were pure class most of the time, and it's nice to have a little focus on the Teacher.

Still say Ban should become the third Precure. :p

Glad the preview for next weeks episode doesn't spoil that much, though wow the fight looks pretty interesting.

Archaic

2010-07-07, 07:04

Is anyone else starting to feel like there must be a reason why several of the characters from the school being similar in appearance to the villains can't just be a co-incidence and/or lazy character design?

Shiroth

2010-07-07, 07:19

7Th

2010-07-07, 09:32

Staff for future episodes:

Episode 22:Finally found! The third Precure!
Director: Hiroshima Hideki
Script: Shoji Yonemura
Animation Director: Tomoko Ito

Episode 23: (Title not revealed by NewType to prevent spoilers)
Director: Morio Hatano
Script: Yoshimi Narita (I guess we can expect this episode to be a tearjerker...)
Animation Director: Yoshihiko Umakoshi (THIS MAN NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION)

Episode 24: The great crisis of the Heart Tree! Let's fly, Precure!
Director: Sakai Munehisa (!)
Script: Yoshimi Narita
Animation Director: Katsumi Tamegai (!)

Episode 25: Let's go to the beach! Itsuki's lighthearted summer camp!
Director: Takenori Kawada
Script: Itou Mutsumi
Animation/Drawing Director: Shou Kojima (!)

Episode 26: Be courageous! It is great for making friends!
Director: Takao Iwai
Script: Inoue Mio
Animation/Drawing Director: Paul Año-Nuevo and Francis Kaneda

Looks like Toei is going all out with episodes 23 and 24....

Nikkan

2010-07-09, 16:58

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Archaic

2010-07-09, 18:32

That's just Cure Moonlight in there, no need to spoiler that.

Shiroth

2010-07-12, 04:59

Not a bad episode. About time we seen Kumojacky see some action, plus Cure Blossom's punch was pretty epic.

Though the real highlight of this episode was the preview for next weeks episode, which sows Cure Sunshine, and wow does she look spectacular. I'm going to heavily enjoy this episode.

Archaic

2010-07-12, 07:04

Shiroth

2010-07-12, 07:51

Liddo-kun

2010-07-12, 21:47

Did anyone else start to wonder halfway through the episode if they'd pulled a fast one on us? Right up until the very end of the episode, it almost seemed like they could have made the gardening club president into the 3rd cure. They intentionally teased us on that one.

Also thought that the gardening club president was going to be the 3rd cure, because she's trying hard to protect the plants (Potpourri is a fairy that uses protection). Though in the end, this episode was just used to set up Cure Sunshine's first appearance on episode 23.

I wonder if there's going to be a new OP when the 3rd Pretty Cure arrives?

asaqe

2010-07-13, 23:48

Nah, it's not uncertain; it's 100% confirmed Itsuki is Sunshine. Houko Kuwashima, Itsuki's VA, was with Mizuki Nana, Fumie Mizusawa and Aya Hisakawa in a recent recording event. She is also singing one of the four songs in the Heartcatch Vocal Collection, the other three are being sung by the VAs of the other three Cures.

Houka Kuwashima huh? Looks like Shinn worked double time to rescue Stellar from one Dai-Gundam's diabolical experiments to create Ne/m/esis Cures. Becoming Kamen Den-o, he shoots his way to rescue her before her second brainwashing can be done. Now Cure Sunshine fights for the sake of Human Freedom!

Shinn_Kabuto

2010-07-15, 01:50

Houka Kuwashima huh? Looks like Shinn worked double time to rescue Stellar from one Dai-Gundam's diabolical experiments to create Ne/m/esis Cures. Becoming Kamen Den-o, he shoots his way to rescue her before her second brainwashing can be done. Now Cure Sunshine fights for the sake of Human Freedom!

Dai-Gundam had successfully corrupted Heero Yuy and named as the new Great Leader by the name of Dune.

asaqe

2010-07-16, 16:54

It was the Xenian flower corrupting power, Carozzo took his daughter and used her as a living core for the maikaijuu which bred Xenian flowers which was used to hide BUGS, Heero's been taken over by the flowers once again and driven mad when Carozzo activated the Devil Tuner, which turned Heero into Dune

FireChick

2010-07-17, 17:41

Tomorrow we finally get to see you-know-who!:D

Archaic

2010-07-17, 20:28

What the heck, a two parter? It was just starting to get really good when they seemed to cut the fight in half. Looks like Cure Sunshine isn't going to be a Shiny Luminous. She's fulfilling the same roles, with her defensive abilities and the power-up tambourine that we saw in the preview, but she's a strong physical fighter as well.

I did find it rather amusing that they went to commercial and straight into ads for Cure Sunshine related goods immediately after her transformation sequence. Talk about milking the cash cow. Pity they showed the tambourine in those ads though, you think they could've held off on that for after the preview or something, since it didn't appear in the transformation sequence or in the main episode itself at all.