New Code Geass Project Launched

[Roloko vi Britannia]

When is Chapter 2 due?

I think this is a monthly release so maybe July?

[Nayrael]

The first chapter was quite good IMO. Didn't expect Samurai-Ninja Jesuits tough XD

BTW, shouldn't Renya have its own tread?

[Chupps]

I think this is a monthly release so maybe July?

Okay thanks.


BTW, shouldn't Renya have its own tread?

Yea this thread seems redundant (manga wise) now, probably only for the anime which hasn't begun yet.

[Eternal Dreamer]

When is Chapter 2 due?

Well, we say a month, but it all depends on if and when someone can get a hold of the manga magazine for the raws. I myself have preordered it, but I have no idea when I'll actually get it, so the time is all up in the air. (Though it'll probably be in July.)

[Arbitres]

The scanlation for the first chapter of Renya is out, if that interests you. Other than that... Nothing. Just chatter here and there with some questions mixed in.

I've yet to read the chapter, and I think I'll wait before I devote myself to it. I'm not saying it won't be good, but I'm keeping myself on the fence.

[White Manju Bun]

BTW, shouldn't Renya have its own tread?

A generic Code Geass Manga Thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=38179) exists since the manga discussion never seemed as popular as the show itself we never bothered creating seperate manga threads. Id use this for now.

[Lolipopo]

Didn't read the first chapter myself. Design...urgh.

Anyway is that girl C.C. in the end ? Cause I saw "C.C. lookalike" in a post while I thought it was established she was the real C.C..

[Chupps]

That is indeed the genuine C.C.

[Cephei Mordred]

I'm not going to bother with the manga since anime alone is canon, but I will say...

Code Geass took a drastic turn after its first episode or two also, so I wouldn't judge any Geass series by its first chapter/episode.

[Kurosu]

I'm not going to bother with the manga since anime alone is canon, but I will say...

Code Geass took a drastic turn after its first episode or two also, so I wouldn't judge any Geass series by its first chapter/episode.


Actually, this manga is canon, according to the director of the anime

[ChildrenOfTheMind]

Anyone know when the anime is going to be released, and where i can read the new chapters of the anime?

[Nayrael]

Anime will start airing (or the OVA will be released) in Fall '10 if I remember right.
Also... how can you read chapters of anime? If you meant manga, you can find it on the mangatoshokan.

[Xander]

Anime will start airing (or the OVA will be released) in Fall '10 if I remember right.


As far as I know, the official website for Code Geass Gaiden will open in September but that doesn't mean the release will happen right then and there. It could take longer or they might as well set the official start date for Winter 2011 or later. At this point we still don't know all the details.

[nlnforever]

So this is the new movie which is adopted from the old CodeGeass, and the mystery of Lelou death is still not officially solved.

[Arbitres]

You need to find a more reliable cache or source of information.

It has been officially said Lelouch is dead. Zero Requiem edition confirms it and thus makes it official in canon.

The movie? What movie? There is an OVA and a manga project being undertaken. But I've heard no word about a movie. Akito Gaiden is the OVA, Renya is the manga.

That's about it. Check out the first post if you are wanting of more information. I also recommend it if you want to know what to say and what not to.

[Naxxcr]

So this is the new movie which is adopted from the old CodeGeass, and the mystery of Lelou death is still not officially solved.

The prequel is a manga, and the gaiden is an anime. We do not yet know if any questions about Lelouch will be answered in either of these.

[bladeofdarkness]

this ... is an EX-protagonist :heh:

[Eternal Dreamer]

Don't know whether this is important to mention, but I just thought I should mention that I got a hold of the second chapter for Shikkoku no Renya several days ago and have already sent it to CXC scans to be scanlated. However, since one of their members is currently on vacation right now, it seems it will take a little while before it's completed. :heh:

Also, for anyone who desires the raws for this chapter into order to translate/scanlate into another language besides English, please contact me through the private message system, as before. (Or use my email: unknown0entity@gmail.com)

As for the chapter itself, all I'll say for now it that it's much shorter than the last one, stopping at 34 pages instead of last chapter's 52. (I guess this means that most of the chapters from now on will be in the low thirty's or high twenty's range of pages.)

[Laurcus]

Eternal Dreamer, did I ever mention how awesome you are?

[levithian]

of course it is important to mention !
Thanks Eternal Dreamer :)

[SpartenOmega117]

so this new anime will not have lelouch? how long do you guys think it will take for this to come to america?

[Arbitres]

If anything, Lelouch will be reduced to a minimum role or a cameo role.

The Akito anime does exist in the time he was still alive, so yes; Lelouch will be in it - how much is pointlessly debatable.

[lightbringer]

Lelouch only has one reason to appear in the new anime, namely to generate sales for it. He's quite the popular character after all. I hope they'll keep his appearances to a minimum but I just know that I'll be there glued to my TV waiting for him to show up and say or do something sufficiently badass.

[The Cat]

I had a thought for one direction the new project could take and am also foolishly naive enough to believe it when I read somewhere that Taniguchi (or might have been Okouchi, can't remember now :confused: ) reads his fan mail. Does anyone know how to send em some, ie where to address it or what website to use?

Sorry if this turns out to be in the wrong place, I'm new here.

[lightbringer]

There was an address floating around a while ago. But I honestly wouldn't bother. Unsolicited suggestions are a legal nightmare even though technically ideas don't fall under copyright laws, and generally these are not looked at. I'm sure the guys in charge have plenty of ideas themselves. And Taniguchi/Okouchi are not even involved as director/writer for this new project last I heard, although they might play some other role.

[The Cat]

Meh, I'm a committed person. If you don't know specifically where, any ideas where to start looking?

[GundamFan0083]

Don't ask how I know how to contact them. ;)

But this way is the best (as it shows respect and that's important).

Gorō Taniguchi: Director
or
Ichirō Ōkouchi: Screen Writer

Make sure you address their name as follows:

Gorō Taniguchi
c/o Sunrise Inc.
2-44-10 Kami-igusa
Suginami-ku
Tokyo, Japan 167-0023

And remember to be polite (like talking to Jesus polite).

[azul120]

Eep. Getting the urge to write about my take on the end of the series, and what could be if Lelouch were to return to life, legitimately.

Before all that, Comic-con beckons.

[lightbringer]

Meh, I'm a committed person. If you don't know specifically where, any ideas where to start looking?

Was gonna say "in this thread actually" since I think it was like 20-30 pages back but it's a moot point now. Well, you can save some time by throwing the letter in the trash - the result is the same - but hey it's your time not mine :D I doubt they get much fan mail from overseas, so maybe you'll even get a reply. Provided they can find someone to translate your English to their Engrish.


And remember to be polite (like talking to Jesus polite).

But sucking up to Taniguchi still won't get you any signed limited edition merchandise or anything. Probably :heh:

[stardrago]

Hey, I was wondering when will the second chapter for the new manga will be up and if it already is where can I find it?

[morbosfist]

It's not out yet, and Eternal Dreamer posted the source about a dozen posts back.

[GundamFan0083]

Was gonna say "in this thread actually" since I think it was like 20-30 pages back but it's a moot point now. Well, you can save some time by throwing the letter in the trash - the result is the same - but hey it's your time not mine :D I doubt they get much fan mail from overseas, so maybe you'll even get a reply. Provided they can find someone to translate your English to their Engrish.



But sucking up to Taniguchi still won't get you any signed limited edition merchandise or anything. Probably :heh:

That's what I meant by being polite.
DON'T KISS THEIR ASS, they don't like it.

If you're going to contact them, tell them (in your own words) what you liked about the show, what you didn't like, and write the letter like you would your boss, professor, or doctor.

All you'll get in return is a nice "thank you letter" which is signed (in ink) by which ever one you write.

You won't get the "inside scoop," "skinny" or anything of the sort, but what you say matters to them.
They are artists after all, and artists love to hear positive things about their work provided it doesn't look like you're french-kissing their ass like some kind of Otaku groupie.

If Code Geass inspired you to write or draw, or whatever, let them know.
Taniguichi likes to hear about that kind of thing, of that I'm absolutely sure. ;)
I don't know about Okouchi though...

Oh, and don't worry about writing them in English, these are professional men with degrees.
They know how to read and write English, and will respond in kind.

-Kodai

[Laurcus]

Kodai, sometimes you kinda scare me with the stuff you know lol.

[Betteroffer]

You won't get the "inside scoop," "skinny" or anything of the sort, but what you say matters to them.

Can it be assumed that this applies to everything as opposed to just questions about the current/future Geass projects? I don't mean I'd expect them to answer shipping questions (obviously :heh:), or questions about the "original" R2, but little things like info on Kallen's father, Jeremiah's sister, or Suzaku's mother would be ignored as well?

[lightbringer]

Can it be assumed that this applies to everything as opposed to just questions about the current/future Geass projects? I don't mean I'd expect them to answer shipping questions (obviously :heh:), or questions about the "original" R2, but little things like info on Kallen's father, Jeremiah's sister, or Suzaku's mother would be ignored as well?

Based on what Kodai has said, you're most likely gonna get a hand-signed standard form letter back. Which is more than what I would send you if I was the one opening the fanmail, but hey :D

[darthfury78]

Can it be assumed that this applies to everything as opposed to just questions about the current/future Geass projects? I don't mean I'd expect them to answer shipping questions (obviously :heh:), or questions about the "original" R2, but little things like info on Kallen's father, Jeremiah's sister, or Suzaku's mother would be ignored as well?

Hi Betteroffer,
It's possible that we might one day seen the original format for Code Geass R2. The only way to continue Lelouch's story would be from where Stage 25 of the first season left off with Lelouch winning the conflict against Suzaku. However, with the Code Geass Side Story coming out, it's possible that the OVA might foretell a remake of the second season, since the producers(privately) didn't seem to like it at all. There is a lot of interest among the fans for the original version of Code Geass R2 to be made. Although, I would like to see them remake Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion as a manga first because it could provide a better blueprint for remaking the anime.

The original version for Season Two takes place in 2017 whereas the revised version takes place in 2018. This means that Code Geass R2 might have been the second half of Season One that continues from where Stage 25 left off.

[Revolutionist]

I think the original version had Lelouch winning the confrontation with Suzaku, but tbh I don't see how that could've been possible unless Kallen wasn't mind raped by Suzaku's amazing Kira-like arguments. Hell, even then chances are he could've overpowered both of them...

[Chupps]

I think the original version had Lelouch winning the confrontation with Suzaku, but tbh I don't see how that could've been possible unless Kallen wasn't mind raped by Suzaku's amazing Kira-like arguments. Hell, even then chances are he could've overpowered both of them...

Original version? I haven't looked into that, can you provide a source?

Definitely, the only way Lelouch was going to win was Kallen. As good a fighter as Suzaku is he couldn't have taken out both of them, especially seeing as how both had guns pointed towards him, and Lelouch having a bomb strapped to him. Kallen also seems pretty formidable in hand-to-hand combat - R2 Episode 1, bunny suit :cool: - unlike wimpy Lelouch.

[Betteroffer]

Based on what Kodai has said, you're most likely gonna get a hand-signed standard form letter back. Which is more than what I would send you if I was the one opening the fanmail, but hey :D

Yeah, I figure as much.

Original version? I haven't looked into that, can you provide a source?

Definitely, the only way Lelouch was going to win was Kallen. As good a fighter as Suzaku is he couldn't have taken out both of them, especially seeing as how both had guns pointed towards him, and Lelouch having a bomb strapped to him. Kallen also seems pretty formidable in hand-to-hand combat - R2 Episode 1, bunny suit :cool: - unlike wimpy Lelouch.

I don't have the source myself, but I have read that part, and they did indeed say that Lelouch was originally supposed to win that confrontation with Suzaku, though they didn't say how. My own theory would be either that the Thought Elevator opens and sucks Lelouch in (though this is more of an escape han a win) or that Suzaku tries to kill Lelouch, but the Live command obstructs him from acting as the sakuradite bomb would take him out as well if Lelouch died. And of course, there is interference from Kallen as well.

[lightbringer]

I remember reading this, too. Lelouch was supposed to return from Kaminejima in one piece, and there would not have been a time gap. Even if they ever remake R2 (which I personally doubt very much), they won't change Lulu's fate. Zero Requiem is pretty much the only part of R2 that went "just as planned" according to the creators.

[The Cat]

Thanks for the info and the advice people. :)

Didn't ED say that he sent in the second chapter for translating? If so it shouldn't be too long.

[Revolutionist]

Wasn't Lelouch also supposed to confront Charles in the Great Britannia or perhaps inside the sword of Akasha and lose then?

[Xander]

Wasn't Lelouch also supposed to confront Charles in the Great Britannia ... and lose then?

That's true, but from reading up on this I believe there's two things that might be easily confused here:

a)What was originally planned for Code Geass as a whole.

We know that Lelouch was going to win against Suzaku and then...things are not clear.

b)Other options the creators had for R2, once they accepted that changes had to be made.

That's where the idea of making Lelouch lose to Charles came in, I believe, and a couple of alternative scenarios were presented as the initial plans for R2. But these weren't part of the original plans in and of themselves, as I understood after trying to read everything I could find on the subject. In short, there were more drafts for R2 than just what we saw on screen.

Most people seem to believe that there's just one set of "original plans" and stop there, but...I doubt it.

In any event, I don't expect that any of this will be remotely relevant to any of the newly announced projects.

As much as some might hope otherwise, I don't think a remake of Code Geass in general or, less likely, only R2 is imminent.

[darthfury78]

I remember reading this, too. Lelouch was supposed to return from Kaminejima in one piece, and there would not have been a time gap. Even if they ever remake R2 (which I personally doubt very much), they won't change Lulu's fate. Zero Requiem is pretty much the only part of R2 that went "just as planned" according to the creators.

If the producers ever decide to remake Code Geass R2, they might as well create a very different ending to the story, as the Zero Requiem card has been played already. It would not make any sense to retell a story that has been told unless one plans to do a very different storyline that would not overlap the original. In my opinion, the Zero Requiem was one of serveral possible outcomes to the story, such as an alternate ending. Although the events that led up to the Zero Requiem did not make any sense to me at all because everything was RUSHED and compromised. I felt that the Zero Requiem came too quickly because the creators ignored a lot of important details to the story. The second half of Code Geass R2 was about getting to the end of the story as quickly as possible.

[Methuselah]

If the producers ever decide to remake Code Geass R2, they might as well create a very different ending to the story, as the Zero Requiem card has been played already. It would not make any sense to retell a story that has been told unless one plans to do a very different storyline that would not overlap the original. In my opinion, the Zero Requiem was one of serveral possible outcomes to the story, such as an alternate ending. Although the events that led up to the Zero Requiem did not make any sense to me at all because everything was RUSHED and compromised. I felt that the Zero Requiem came too quickly because the creators ignored a lot of important details to the story. The second half of Code Geass R2 was about getting to the end of the story as quickly as possible.

One can argue (at least I would) that they've been rushing ever sense the Blood-Stained Euphie incident. Anyone ever read the manga? I prefer that more than the original r2. Lelouch stays constant and carrying, especially towards C.C.

[darthfury78]

One can argue (at least I would) that they've been rushing ever sense the Blood-Stained Euphie incident. Anyone ever read the manga? I prefer that more than the original r2. Lelouch stays constant and carrying, especially towards C.C.

I would love to see Okouchi remake Code Geass as a manga. I haven't seen the Code Geass R2 manga at all. But I heard that the story is quite different from the anime. Although I would love the see some of the staff members from the anime production team involved, like the Tanigushi who is now a writer.

[Methuselah]

Well if you are living in America and have book stores like Barnes and Nobles or Borders, they should have up to Vol. 7 which is near the end of R2. The overall plot is the same, but with significant changes in events, character involvement, and especially character. (Lelouch doesn't degrade or change from caring to utterly senseless like in the anime. He stayed the same.)

=Plus he even showed he has brute strength XD Unlike R2 where they made him into somebody who cannot take 10 strides.

[yvj]

Any new info about the anime?

Like how many episodes or whatnot?

[Roloko vi Britannia]

Any new info about the anime?

Like how many episodes or whatnot?

no new info until September thats what someone stated in the earlier posts

[yvj]

no new info until September thats what someone stated in the earlier posts

September? Good Gawd

Well I've got to hand it to this franchise its got enough hooks to keep me around this long

[Xander]

I just look at the bright side: R2 would have probably been better if they had delayed it a few more months. :heh:

Instead of coming out with a sequel less than a year after the last couple of episodes, that extra time could have been used for more story planning and script editing. In short, time is usually something we can afford to spend if the results are worth it.

[azul120]

Might have also saved it on Adult Swim.

[Arbitres]

Adult Swim is basically Bleach and or re-runs. I'm not really interested until they air Sengoku Basara (October 3rd is what I hear when it'll air in NA. I have to guess Adult Swim will cover it.)

R2 would have probably been better if they had delayed it a few more months.

Judging by the rest of that post, I'd say anything to a few months to a year would've been better.

Jejeje. September isn't too bad, keep your head up yvj. *patpat*

[Chupps]

How comes chapter 2 isn't out yet? Weren't the scans sent off to CXC nearly a month ago?

[eaglei3]

How comes chapter 2 isn't out yet? Weren't the scans sent off to CXC nearly a month ago?

Wouldn't be surprised if it has anything to do with the huge scanlation crackdown going on right now.

[Roloko vi Britannia]

Wouldn't be surprised if it has anything to do with the huge scanlation crackdown going on right now.

I thought that was just a crackdown on hosting sites that profited from illegal scans uploaded to their database not the actual groups. Either way the companies are not going to stop piracy as long as someone has a scanner and a "under the table-ish" website nothing will change.

As for the current topic they might release chapter 2 as soon as things die down....

[Chupps]

:T_T: Guess i can keep waiting, the anime's the main event anyway.

[Ilidsor]

Just read the first chapter :P

I wonder why C.C said he failed?

So far the series looks good, but it's kind of hard to tell after only one chapter. That girl who likes Renya seemed pretty funny.

[konart]

Tired of waiting and went through the chenise scanlation of ch.2

Well, lol at Gino. He looks just funny in his new emploi

[Lolipopo]

Just wondering. Any news about the new project ? (I'm not talking about the manga, I don't care about it. Only the new anime.)

[Chupps]

Just wondering. Any news about the new project ? (I'm not talking about the manga, I don't care about it. Only the new anime.)

no new info until September thats what someone stated in the earlier posts

This is the only answer we've got at the moment :upset:

[D's Pear]

Ah. I put off reading the first chapter too long and now it can't be found anywhere. :/ Does anyone know if there's anywhere this chapter can currently be downloaded? The scanslated one, that is.

[Eternal Dreamer]

Ah. I put off reading the first chapter too long and now it can't be found anywhere. :/ Does anyone know if there's anywhere this chapter can currently be downloaded? The scanslated one, that is.

Go to CxC scans: http://cxcblog.wordpress.com/

They have a Shikkoku no Renya section, though it's only the first chapter for now, as they seem to be taking a while to scanlate the second one. :heh:

[Kaze]

Just have to be patient, when this new project gets off the ground in full motion, this section of the forums will be exploding with activity again.

Right now it's a wasteland though, only active topics are this one and the image thread.
I for one am glad that this franchise isn't dead yet (Take a look at the Death Note thread, that corpse has been rotting a long time), so people will return here sooner or later in the future.

[Bonzo]

Bakumetsu Ibunroku Code Geass.


..........................well. they were totally drunk when they did that manga.

[TrueElements]

Bakumetsu Ibunroku Code Geass.


..........................well. they were totally drunk when they did that manga.

thats fan made i believe.

[Roloko vi Britannia]

Go to CxC scans: http://cxcblog.wordpress.com/

They have a Shikkoku no Renya section, though it's only the first chapter for now, as they seem to be taking a while to scanlate the second one. :heh:

They are probably waiting for the coalition to quiet down before they upload the newest chapter so we just have to be patient :uhoh:

[White Manju Bun]

Im all for discussion but can we stay on topic, with the release of the new manga please take any manga talk to the Manga Thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=38179) so this topic can remain for any news about the series. Thanks.

[Meatrose]

Yeah well, the manga deserves its own thread as it's pretty much a canon entry in the Code Geass universe. Taniguchi is writing it after all and even though he was not the actual writer of Code Geass he was at least credited with "original story", along with the actual "God" that is... Okouchi Ichiro. Those two guys are the only ones able to speak their mind about anything concerning the series, its story and the related characters and have it be considered to be "Word of God" (true).

The new anime on the other hand... is NON-CANON (and a pathetic attempt at making money off of the original authors' creation if you ask me). It's just an extension, created by the company that owns the rights to produce anything "new" related to the trademark. It's just as canon as a continuation to The Lord of the Rings, written by whoever owns the "rights" to the franchise, would be. That hypothetical someone would be just as eligible to produce a direct sequel, telling the story of how the ship Gandalf and Frodo boarded in the final novel got stranded on a deserted island on which both main characters got to live out an "epic adventure". It's bogus, as far as I'm concerned.

Edit: I just realized this post will get me hated by some. Please don't, I don't hate you. =)

[Xander]

Then I assume you would argue that none of the Gundam series set in the Universal Century that weren't directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino are "canon" by your standards? It's a respectable belief on your part but hopefully such declarations don't lead others to confusion. Almost all anime is obviously made with a commercial intent in mind, but that doesn't necessarily say anything about canonicity as a matter of continuity as opposed to personal preference.

In addition to the above, keep in mind that apparently Taniguchi doesn't have a problem with the creation of a new anime and, in fact, seems to have influenced the actual decision to make it an "expasion" as opposed to a direct sequel, at least going by his statements on the official website. Okouchi also said, back in older interviews, that the world of Code Geass wasn't closed off.

Of course, all of us have our own opinions and can throw speculations around about this or that in the meanwhile.

[Meatrose]

Then I assume you would argue that none of the Gundam series set in the Universal Century that weren't directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino are "canon" by your standards? It's a respectable belief on your part but hopefully such declarations don't lead others to confusion. Almost all anime is obviously made with a commercial intent in mind, but that doesn't necessarily say anything about canonicity.

In addition to the above, keep in mind that apparently Taniguchi doesn't have a problem with the creation of a new anime and, in fact, seems to have influenced the actual decision to make it an "expasion" as opposed to a direct sequel, at least going by his statements on the official website.

Of course, all of us have our own opinions and can throw speculations around about this or that.

That's right, I would definitely argue that... if this was a Gundam sub-forum. :)

Off topic segment:

I really enjoyed the original and Zeta but I think that most of the other shows are bad (there are exceptions of course, I thought shows like Seed and 00 were partly entertaining and/or decent). I still remember the good ol' times but I can't quite take anything with "Gundam" in its name seriously these days and this is due to the shameless exploration of the franchise. I always check them out though, and they're often "not really bad". Let's phrase it this way; I wouldn't miss a new Gundam, but I wouldn't expect it to be anywhere near the "canon" ones. I'm much more lenient when it comes to Gundam though. I think the main difference is that I don't really care about what happens to the fictional realm of "Gundam". I really do care about the fictional realm of Code Geass (it's pretty much the only fictional realm that I truly care about). I know that I'm probably considered a "crazy purist" in the eyes of... a lot of people, but if I can't vent my opinions here - which community should I turn to? =)

(The "read between the lines even though the poster is saying something that could be considered to be negative-FAQ": this is pretty much the only anime community in which discussions which I would deem intellectual or "giving", about the specific medium of entertainment of course, are held.)

Anyhow, let's get back to Code Geass. You said that "apparently Taniguchi doesn't have a problem with the creation of a new anime" and I would say; of course, there's money involved so he's not going to oppose the idea of having the franchise make more money. I think most of us (the fans) would act the same if we were to be put in the same situation.

[yvj]

I agree with Meatrose.

Imo if O & T aren't heavily involved it would be its own separate universe. Like a Seed, Wing, Zeta

But since the new show is supposed to take place in the time line of the Code Geass we know and love/hate. Well that smells a little of Dragonball GT to me.

[Meatrose]

/salute yvj

Sup?

Edit:



Imo if O & T aren't heavily involved it would be its own separate universe.

Yeah, it would be pretty much like the countless Star Wars "expanded universe" novels. George Lucas himself said that "they are not part of my universe, they're part of this other universe that consists of the various novels and video games". Luke Skywalker didn't marry Mara Jade canonically...

[D's Pear]

Honestly I think you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. I really don't see what the big deal is. As long as they don't somehow manage to botch Lelouch of the Rebellion with the new series' I honestly don't care who writes what. Sure I'll probably have less interest in it than the original series, but that doesn't automatically result in my complete rejection of it. Other things happened in the CG universe other than Lelouch's existence -is it really that out of the question to explore them to you guys?

As of yet, I don't see any reason not to accept it as canon.

Unless that is..

..They decided to revive Lelouch. :heh:

[Meatrose]

1) Honestly I think you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. I really don't see what the big deal is. As long as they don't somehow manage to botch Lelouch of the Rebellion with the new series' I honestly don't care who writes what. Sure I'll probably have less interest in it than the original series, but that doesn't automatically result in my complete rejection of it. Other things happened in the CG universe other than Lelouch's existence -is it really that out of the question to explore them to you guys?

2) As of yet, I don't see any reason not to accept it as canon.

Unless that is..

..They decided to revive Lelouch. :heh:

1) Yeah I know I'm kind of blowing things out of proportion. It's my honest opinion though. :heh:

I wouldn't go all "nerd-rage" if they made this side-story truly "stand alone" (read: all-new cast in an all-new conflict set in the same world as the canon universe that the real creators created). I would, though, have a problem with it if it featured even one of the original characters, cause none other than the original creator (in this case there are two, sort of) can portray how/what his or her character(s) would react, say, act or behave in a certain situation. Those who didn't write and create everything in the first place only have their own interpretation of what was shown in the original work to go on when they're deciding on how a certain character would act. Granted... I wouldn't care about this if I weren't a hard-core Code Geass fanatic, I'll be the first one to admit that, but I can't take anything written or created by anyone but Okouchi (or Taniguchi) seriously. That's my personal opinion.

2) And I, personally, don't see any reason to accept is as canon. Canon to me is "material that is considered to be 'genuine', 'something that actually happened', or can be directly referenced as material produced by the original author or creator". This new anime can not under any circumstances be referenced as material produced by the original author/creator. It's simply the same production company.

[D's Pear]

I would, though, have a problem with it if it featured even one of the original characters, cause none other than the original creator (in this case there are two, sort of) can portray how/what his or her character(s) would react, say, act or behave in a certain situation... I can't take anything written or created by anyone but Okouchi (or Taniguchi) seriously.

Oh no, I agree. Anything written by someone other than the original creators is always fair game for falling victim to Death of the Author at any given time, because after all for all intents and purposes the 'Author' is absent. But I don't think it's condemnable right off the bat. Only if they take something from the original series and ruin it. As long as there's no harm done who cares?

It's basically fan fiction with privileges -accept it as long as it stays within the boundaries of belief as set by Okouchi/ Taniguchi, reject it if it goes too far.'

Edit: But then, to be fair, I only care about Lelouch. As far as character development (or destruction) goes anyway. I suppose it might be different if I was concerned with the other characters' characters.

[Meatrose]

1) Oh no, I agree. Anything written by someone other than the original creators is always fair game for falling victim to Death of the Author at any given time, because after all for all intents and purposes the 'Author' is absent. But I don't think it's condemnable right off the bat. Only if they take something from the original series and ruin it. As long as there's no harm done who cares?

2) It's basically fan fiction with privileges -accept it as long as it stays within the boundaries of belief as set by Okouchi/ Taniguchi, reject it if it goes too far.'

3) Edit: But then, to be fair, I only care about Lelouch. As far as character development (or destruction) goes anyway. I suppose it might be different if I was concerned with the other characters' characters.

1) Cool, that's more or less my stance on that issue as well. I would prefer a scenario in which they didn't create anything more using the Code Geass title at all, but at the same time I can see why they're doing what they're doing... from a "we're a company, we exist to make money" kind of perspective.

It's not like the world would end if they created a stand-alone feature, and I think that that's pretty much what they're doing, even though I'm fearing that some canon characters will make short appearances. =P

2) Yes, that's pretty much exactly how I've referred to... "this thing"... in previous discussions. Most of those discussions have been in Swedish, on another forum, but my opinion stays the same. I think the exact quote would be "it's a fanfiction with a ridiculously overblown budget". If we're going to go by actual terms the correct way to refer to this kind of material would be "apocrypha" - apocrypha includes those fictional stories that do not belong within a fictional universe's canon, yet still have some authority relating to that fictional universe.

3) Yeah, everything that happened in Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion was originally intended to be called simply "Lelouch of the Rebellion". The "Code Geass" part was added along the way... C.C. was originally going to be some kind of "angelic being", not a granter of Geass powers. Anyhow, the story is heavily focused on Lelouch and his rebellion, so much that any sequel, following those that survived (a scenario that omits Lelouch) would have to continue building something that was originally not there at all. I'm not saying that focusing this heavily on Lelouch was a mistake (it's the opposite if you ask me), it's just that doing anything even remotely related to the show, without having Lelouch as a protagonist obviously, would be suicide.

My favorite character is not Lelouch (if you don't know me you'd probably think so by now) but Kallen. Even though I think she and Lelouch were the only good characters in the show I would never want to see a continuation to R2, not even if it was written by the original authors. I just don't see how they could possibly implement Kallen's character without either ruining it or making the new feature uninteresting to watch.

[Xander]

There's nothing against bringing up examples, as far as I know, for the sake of making a point. And Gundam has a lot more in common with Code Geass than, say...Lord of the Rings. ;)

For those who actually care about details, I'm referring to the likes of 0080 and 08th MS Team since both of them are Gundam series that take place in the same universe as the original show and its subsequent sequels. In fact, the currently in production Gundam Unicorn has nothing to do with Tomino either but it's received both popular and critical acclaim. There are also people who would argue these are all superior to most of Tomino's works.

In the specific case of Code Geass, my position is one of cautious optimism. I'd rather have an open mind, not asking for too much, and see what happens instead of expecting the worst. In my opinion, Lelouch was the protagonist of a story, not the protagonist of the universe. That said, I won't really get on Meatrose's case over this since there's no point in doing so. Just wanted to make a couple of observations for the sake of those who are less informed about these matters.

[Lolipopo]

There's nothing against bringing up examples, as far as I know, for the sake of making a point. And Gundam has a lot more in common with Code Geass than, say...Lord of the Rings. ;).

Hoooo don't be so convinced about that :p
Tolkien was heavily inspired by the Arthurian Tale (Some stuff are obvious in LOTR and the guy even translated a book about a Knight of Round :'P) and we all know that Code Geass loves to play with said myth.

So...maybe LOTR and...LOTR are closer that one may think ;P

[D's Pear]

So...maybe LOTR and...LOTR are closer that one may think ;P

'Lelouch of the Ring' - something has gone horribly wrong in the Shire.

I've thought about doing a fan art about this before. xD

[Feanor]

I personally am hoping that they don't try to tack on more story to the Lelouch of the Rebellion cast after R2 25. I am hoping that we will see more of the Knight of Rounds when they were on the European Front and see a little bit of the Black Rebellion and such from a Britannian point of view.

Yo, if we are saying LOTR is like LOTR and such, does that mean characters line up with each other? Cause if it does, that makes me like Lelouch's 250 times great uncle twice removed on his mothers side and his 310 times great uncle on his fathers' side through his grandfather's half sister's husband's grandmother's adopted brother.

[NettoSaito]

I still wonder what's going on with Lelouch of the HIGHSCHOOL Rebellion... I mean... what the heck o_O

[D's Pear]

I still wonder what's going on with Lelouch of the HIGHSCHOOL Rebellion... I mean... what the heck o_O

...I think someone's confused.

That sounds like some horrific mash-up of Code Geass and High School Musical. Or some other teeniebopper shit.

Edit: Found the source of the confusion, a rather laughable troll advert: http://a.imageshack.us/img267/7020/1281313785979.jpg

It's good for a lol, but a grim statement that anyone would actually fall for it. :heh:

[bladeofdarkness]

i wish it was true
many shows on that list i would have loved to watch
most especially BOTS 4

[Hooves]

...I think someone's confused.

That sounds like some horrific mash-up of Code Geass and High School Musical. Or some other teeniebopper shit.

Edit: Found the source of the confusion, a rather laughable troll advert: http://a.imageshack.us/img267/7020/1281313785979.jpg

It's good for a lol, but a grim statement that anyone would actually fall for it. :heh:

Ehhhh... Sounds to much like High School Musical just from the info on that, and Lelouch helping the "football team" if he was a coach then no problem, but if he was helping on the field.. (imagines him getting run over alot of times)

[Lolipopo]

...I think someone's confused.

That sounds like some horrific mash-up of Code Geass and High School Musical. Or some other teeniebopper shit.

Edit: Found the source of the confusion, a rather laughable troll advert: http://a.imageshack.us/img267/7020/1281313785979.jpg

It's good for a lol, but a grim statement that anyone would actually fall for it. :heh:

:heh:
The Gundam Seed cracked me up :heh:
And the CG one sounds amazing, I'd pay to see that !

Ooooh the perfect anime list :heh:

[azul120]

Final Fantasy VI The Animation would be tempting... if only game adaptations didn't typically suck.

[TrueElements]

Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya 02.
August 13, 2010 — evilrav


[CXC] has it for any who didnt notice. yes its translated.

[Tetsu Aero]

I'm beginning to like Shikoku no Renya more and more :)

[Xion Valkyrie]

There looks like a lot of links to the present time. Is this a monthly manga?

[rebel01]

List of episode For Upcoming series :heh:

Return1 Sun has returned to the Devil
Return2 Knight of Atonement
Return3 Lord of the twin
Return4 Kallen standing
Return5 Guren again
Return6 Peace desire
Return7 Emperor’s promise
Return8 Britannian guardian
Return9 The weight of the mask
Return10 Lie
Return11 Zero punitive bill
Return12 Red
Return13 Iscariot
Return14 Qualifications
Return15 Remember the name CC
Return16 Start code
Return17 Shunaizeru Awakening
Return18 Reconnect Ragnarok
Return19 Selected
Return20 Third battle Tokyo
Return21 Determination of the Suzaku
Return22 Nunnally cries
Return23 Name of God
Return24 Prayer voices
Return25 Tsukurareshi friendly

[Laurcus]

What is this? I don't even...

[SonOfHeaven]

List of episode For Upcoming series :heh:

Return1 Sun has returned to the Devil
Return2 Knight of Atonement
Return3 Lord of the twin
Return4 Kallen standing
Return5 Guren again
Return6 Peace desire
Return7 Emperor’s promise
Return8 Britannian guardian
Return9 The weight of the mask
Return10 Lie
Return11 Zero punitive bill
Return12 Red
Return13 Iscariot
Return14 Qualifications
Return15 Remember the name CC
Return16 Start code
Return17 Shunaizeru Awakening
Return18 Reconnect Ragnarok
Return19 Selected
Return20 Third battle Tokyo
Return21 Determination of the Suzaku
Return22 Nunnally cries
Return23 Name of God
Return24 Prayer voices
Return25 Tsukurareshi friendly

That's a list someone made up completely. I've seen this on numerous sites.

[Bonzo]

Juat another fan fantasy.

[D-KLAC]

really just more hoop-la really should been better IF they do time travel, reboot, etc or something that geass r1 & r2 to be non-canon.

really those 2 are an ABOMINATION & not worth any honor, pride, loyalty, trust, promise, etc to watch really i'm still disgusted by it.

i rather have a new version & this no more innocient lost lives/victims & GOOD TRUE happy ending.

[Bonzo]

really just more hoop-la really should been better IF they do time travel, reboot, etc or something that geass r1 & r2 to be non-canon.

really those 2 are an ABOMINATION & not worth any honor, pride, loyalty, trust, promise, etc to watch really i'm still disgusted by it.

i rather have a new version & this no more innocient lost lives/victims & GOOD TRUE happy ending.

Read my fan-comic :D

[GundamFan0083]

List of episode For Upcoming series :heh:

Return1 Sun has returned to the Devil
Return2 Knight of Atonement
Return3 Lord of the twin
Return4 Kallen standing
Return5 Guren again
Return6 Peace desire
Return7 Emperor’s promise
Return8 Britannian guardian
Return9 The weight of the mask
Return10 Lie
Return11 Zero punitive bill
Return12 Red
Return13 Iscariot
Return14 Qualifications
Return15 Remember the name CC
Return16 Start code
Return17 Shunaizeru Awakening
Return18 Reconnect Ragnarok
Return19 Selected
Return20 Third battle Tokyo
Return21 Determination of the Suzaku
Return22 Nunnally cries
Return23 Name of God
Return24 Prayer voices
Return25 Tsukurareshi friendly

I'd like to beat whoever started touting that "new series episode guide" with an old stinky wet-trout!

I love fanfiction as much as the next Geass fan, but for the love of Pete, call it fanfiction when it is fanfiction!!

That list is a fake I tell you...a fake! :heh:

[morbosfist]

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No one better to say so.

[lightbringer]

You don't have to look anywhere else to know it's completely fake. Apart from there usually not being so many episode titles announced so far in advance, the titles themselves speak of rabid fanboyism. No reason to post that trash in here really.

[TrueElements]

Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya Ch:3 is out.

-From what C.C said since he failed the "test" for geass he didn't revive it

-yet his arm now has the symptoms to being the beginning of a curse.

-Even though hes using it to fight he says he has no control over it.

-has enough strength to kill a person just from grip.

-Lelou-...well yeah, renya is about to fight Gino, will he live past chapter 4!?

-mystery man in some strange armor appears, apparently has the ability to crush people with invisible walls. He proclaims he doesn't need Rank(?) and file soldiers and that they're his prey.

[darthfury78]

List of episode For Upcoming series :heh:

Return1 Sun has returned to the Devil
Return2 Knight of Atonement
Return3 Lord of the twin
Return4 Kallen standing
Return5 Guren again
Return6 Peace desire
Return7 Emperor’s promise
Return8 Britannian guardian
Return9 The weight of the mask
Return10 Lie
Return11 Zero punitive bill
Return12 Red
Return13 Iscariot
Return14 Qualifications
Return15 Remember the name CC
Return16 Start code
Return17 Shunaizeru Awakening
Return18 Reconnect Ragnarok
Return19 Selected
Return20 Third battle Tokyo
Return21 Determination of the Suzaku
Return22 Nunnally cries
Return23 Name of God
Return24 Prayer voices
Return25 Tsukurareshi friendly

I thought that the upcoming Code Geass anime was going to be an OVA?

[morbosfist]

It's fake. Read the replies.

[Toddler Naruto]

What is the likelihood of Bandai USA licensing AND English Dubbing this new anime?

[Roloko vi Britannia]

What is the likelihood of Bandai USA licensing AND English Dubbing this new anime?

seeing as how popular CG is very high :D

[Toddler Naruto]

seeing as how popular CG is very high :D

I sure hope so, I watch both R1 & R2 dubbed, would just make sense to watch this new show dubbed too.

[Nobodyman9]

seeing as how popular CG is very high :D
On the contrary, it's actually not popular in the U.S.

Like, at all.

But even so, it'll probably get licensed.

[Xander]

That depends on what do you really mean by "popular" since, at the very least, even without having the same amount of fans as something like Naruto or Bleach it did get to run on TV and the DVDs did rank on at least one of 2009's best seller lists. I would say it's not a huge mainstream hit or anything like it but that doesn't mean the show is completely obscure.

[D-KLAC]

hmm rubbish for anime that is only in for the $$$.

really not worth for me cause i still NOT forgive it cause of what they did really wanted yo go find "them" have it remake/"SAVED" to make sure it all never happen & the REAL good happy ending.

really there are still hiding, lying, trick, backstab, etc that i don't trust geass series cause to me it's just GARBAGE.

[Roloko vi Britannia]

On the contrary, it's actually not popular in the U.S.

Like, at all.

But even so, it'll probably get licensed.

I was talking about how popular CG is in Japan and American companies usually license anime that are popular and sold well enough in Japan to get a license to it.....well thats what I read somewhere and what a few people told me I don't really know what the American companies look into before licensing a series.

[azul120]

hmm rubbish for anime that is only in for the $$$.

really not worth for me cause i still NOT forgive it cause of what they did really wanted yo go find "them" have it remake/"SAVED" to make sure it all never happen & the REAL good happy ending.

really there are still hiding, lying, trick, backstab, etc that i don't trust geass series cause to me it's just GARBAGE.

Or just read GundamFan0083's (aka Kodai Okuda) fanfic "Dirge of Daedalus" and its followups, and imagine it as a continuation of the current CG-verse. You'll thank me. ;)

[Hooves]

Or just read GundamFan0083's (aka Kodai Okuda) fanfic "Dirge of Daedalus" and its followups, and imagine it as a continuation of the current CG-verse. You'll thank me. ;)

I love GundamFan0083's fanfic so far :D

[Xander]

I'm not really into reading fan fiction these days, but in any case...we should be hearing something new about the upcoming animated project in a week or less. The official website will update on the 10th but Newtype magazine will probably provide us with some new coverage shortly before that.

[Arbitres]

To summarize what I'm thinking, and what afew others may be thinking (or on the basis of assumption):

About god damn time. Seriously, Akito took it's sweet daisy little time getting here. I'm glad it's September, and I can't wait for the newtype and the coverage on it. Of course Sunrise is going to tease us with bits and pieces again but it IS something to be happy about.

[GundamFan0083]

Blushes immensely.
I'm happy to have made so many people happy with my fanfiction. :)

On the other note:
I am anxiously awaited the new issue of Newtype magazine.
I'm willing to bet the info in whatever Code Geass section they have will be well worth it.

[Laurcus]

Kodai, I think you have just a few fans here, myself included. :) Sunrise should just ask you what to do next with the series lol.

[GundamFan0083]

Thank you Laurcus I appreciate my readers.

I wish Sunrise would contact me.
I'd love for DoD to become official, but that's just a pipe dream.

Although I have been told by my Japanese friends that the new mecha have some resemblence to some of my mecha from DoD.
I don't see it, but like all artwork the image is interpreted differently by different people.

Anyhoo, can't wait for the new anime/OVA info to be announced. :)

That reminds me.
I don't think I've said anything here yet, but Alpha and Omega will only be posted on my forum.
There are multiple reasons for that.

I'll post here on the fanfiction thread when the first chapter of Alpha and Omega is ready (should be about two weeks).

[Same_Shark]

Not sure if it's been posted, but a new Nighmare Frame from the new anime has appeared.

http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-knightmare-for-code-geass-anime.html

[lightbringer]

That has a kind of Gothic/HRE feeling to it. Given the proportions, I wonder if the pilot is going to be female? It's about time for a new female ace to appear in the Code Geass universe.

[Same_Shark]

That has a kind of Gothic/HRE feeling to it. Given the proportions, I wonder if the pilot is going to be female? It's about time for a new female ace to appear in the Code Geass universe.

This is definately the first "female" Knightmare in the series, isn't it? The pilot will most likely be either a female or a feminine man.

[Kitaeryu]

This is definately the first "female" Knightmare in the series, isn't it? The pilot will most likely be either a female or a feminine man.

I REALLY hope its a female, and not the feminine man.

[Roloko vi Britannia]

I REALLY hope its a female, and not the feminine man.

I hope so too it could be the new protagonist's kmf so my guess is a feminine man will be piloting it, but its still to early to tell.

[Same_Shark]

I'm betting on a Karen-like girl. CG needs more tough chicks.

[Arbitres]

You sir, know what's important. I vote for Karen tough or Cornelia tough. Or maybe even Nunnally tough. (Nunnally is the battlemaster of cuteness. Accept it.)

If it is a female pilot, they are probably going to insert huge loads of fanservice. :heh:

Then again wasn't Akito confirmed to be a he? I'm pretty sure Akito was (who is the main protagonist of the OVA. Or from what I remember anyways.)

[Roloko vi Britannia]

You sir, know what's important. I vote for Karen tough or Cornelia tough. Or maybe even Nunnally tough. (Nunnally is the battlemaster of cuteness. Accept it.)

If it is a female pilot, they are probably going to insert huge loads of fanservice. :heh:

Then again wasn't Akito confirmed to be a he? I'm pretty sure Akito was (who is the main protagonist of the OVA. Or from what I remember anyways.)

I also vote yes for a woman like Kallen and Corns. Hmm a female warrior who has Corns and Kallens toughness whilst having Nunally's cuteness I would definitely approve

[bladeofdarkness]

do we know if this means that the new shot takes place in the same universe as the original ?
because the design seems to imply a more advance model then the original KMF's which suggests the show takes place AFTER the original show
if it does, then having it be Kallen's/Suzaku's kid piloting it would be kinda awesome.

[konart]

do we know if this means that the new shot takes place in the same universe as the original ?
because the design seems to imply a more advance model then the original KMF's which suggests the show takes place AFTER the original show
if it does, then having it be Kallen's/Suzaku's kid piloting it would be kinda awesome.

We kinda know that Gaiden takes place somewhere between R1 & R2. Don't know about alternative universe though :heh:

[lightbringer]

From what's been said so far, IIRC the show takes place before the end of R2 and not after, and takes place in the official continuity. This is probably simply a prototype model for the show's ace - can't expect them all to use the same tin buckets used by the EU during R2.

[bladeofdarkness]

its from the OVA ?
nevermind then :heh:

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

do we know if this means that the new shot takes place in the same universe as the original ?
because the design seems to imply a more advance model then the original KMF's which suggests the show takes place AFTER the original show
if it does, then having it be Kallen's/Suzaku's kid piloting it would be kinda awesome.

It is quite often that an OVA series, with a superior budget to episode ratio, would have better means of animating the same things than the TV series that came before it. A famous example is the UC Gundam franchise. The three main mecha, the Gundam, Guincannon and Guntank, all got mass production models made in Canon. However, the MP Guncannon and Guntank were invented after-the-fact much later in the franchise's history, while the humble GM (mass production Gundam) was in the first TV show itself.

This means the GM ended up looking plain and boring standing next to its MP brothers, as the animation capacity allowed superior levels of design detail for the late comers.

Code Geass might well do the same for Akito; namely, claiming that ALL Knightmares are as advanced as it will be shown in the OVA, retconing the appearance of all Knightmares that existed on TV. It's like how Endless Waltz retconed the appearance of Wing Zero.

[Bonzo]

Well, in my opinion, at despite of anime year (2017), we will see more new knightmares, cause the sunrise commercial instinct, maybe more modern of kmf of R2...

This is a nonsense, it's obvious, but this isn't the first time.

Look Star Trek, the first enterprise in the temporal saga, is MORE modern of the followings models built decades later command by Kirk.

[Arbitres]

can't expect them all to use the same tin buckets used by the EU during R2.

Panzel Hummel's are pieces of crap, those unidentified kmfs looked like junk, too. So I have to agree with this. :heh:

It's like how Endless Waltz retconed the appearance of Wing Zero.

My beautiful, beautiful Wing Zero.... They made you into something 'fancy'... :(

[lightbringer]

Well, in my opinion, at despite of anime year (2017), we will see more new knightmares, cause the sunrise commercial instinct, maybe more modern of kmf of R2...

This is a nonsense, it's obvious, but this isn't the first time.

KMFs make for some nice merchandise, so there really is no choice but to include new ones.


Look Star Trek, the first enterprise in the temporal saga, is MORE modern of the followings models built decades later command by Kirk.
Admittedly the major reason there is the advance of technology in the real world greatly expanding the possibilities when compared to the early days of the franchise.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Compare this:
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/RGM-79_GM
To this:
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/RX-75_Guntank_Mass_Production_Type

They are both MP units based on first generation MS of the Federation. But look at them, and you can tell the MP Guntank LOOKS more advanced than the GM. Code Geass had cut corners with the Knightmare designs, because in many ways they are not important enough in the TV series to be worth it. But with the OVA, they can take their time.

[Subzero00]

hi this is the first time i'm posting here so sorry if i'm repeating. does anyone know when the new season will be released

[morbosfist]

There is no new season.

[secretzfan]

Yea of course it is a new manga spin off, but they do have Code Geass: Gaiden which is part 2 of the series

[Subzero00]

Yea of course it is a new manga spin off, but they do have Code Geass: Gaiden which is part 2 of the series

will Lelouch and the other chacters feature in it

[Suzuku]

That is unknown. The only info we have on it is that it will focus on a couple of other people in the slums. I doubt that Lelouch is going to show up. Also I wouldn't call this part 2 of the series.

[secretzfan]

That is unknown. The only info we have on it is that it will focus on a couple of other people in the slums. I doubt that Lelouch is going to show up. Also I wouldn't call this part 2 of the series.

Well they say it was more of a side story, but it takes place after his death

[Hooves]

Well they say it was more of a side story, but it takes place after his death

It will probably show how peaceful Britannia and Japan have gotten ever since the end of Zero Requiem, but then will show how the world goes back to war no matter what happened... I guess you can only suppress anger for a short time?

[GundamFan0083]

Are you guys/gals talking about the new Gaiden?

I ask because all I've read thus far is that it takes place between S1 and R2.
It's not a sequal.

[Hooves]

Are you guys/gals talking about the new Gaiden?

I ask because all I've read thus far is that it takes place between S1 and R2.
It's not a sequal.

If that is true, then it will probably just show another person's PoV of everything that is going on around the world. I mean we never did get a clear view, aside from the major battles between Britannia and Japan.

Also I wonder.. What does Gaiden mean :confused:

[GundamFan0083]

Gaiden means sidestory or tale. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaiden)

Think of this new OVA as something like Gundam 8th MS team (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=24).

[lightbringer]

If that is true, then it will probably just show another person's PoV of everything that is going on around the world. I mean we never did get a clear view, aside from the major battles between Britannia and Japan.


It's set in EU between S1 and R2, with a new cast. Zero was pretty much incapacitated at this point but I'm sure they'll sneak in some flashbacks or tv recordings to drum up sales. I would be pleasantly surprised if C.C. and Kallen make an appearance at some point, but I wouldn't expect even that to be honest. But this is Code Geass, so I'm more or less sure that Geass and/or immortals will be involved in one way or another. Let's simply look forward to a new story with new characters?

[Subzero00]

It's set in EU between S1 and R2, with a new cast. Zero was pretty much incapacitated at this point but I'm sure they'll sneak in some flashbacks or tv recordings to drum up sales. I would be pleasantly surprised if C.C. and Kallen make an appearance at some point, but I wouldn't expect even that to be honest. But this is Code Geass, so I'm more or less sure that Geass and/or immortals will be involved in one way or another. Let's simply look forward to a new story with new characters?

theres no point making a new series if therws gonna be new characters as its the characters that made the show

[Subzero00]

btw anyone know what this is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxObWrsQrU&feature=related

[Xander]

That's from earlier this year and it's not really relevant to any new production by this point in time.

theres no point making a new series if therws gonna be new characters as its the characters that made the show

I would say that is true only in the eye of the beholder. In short, that depends on what you want to see.

It could be worse, better or simply different. There's not enough information yet.

[Nobodyman9]

theres no point making a new series if therws gonna be new characters as its the characters that made the show
You mean like when they made Digimon Tamers?

[Subzero00]

That's from earlier this year and it's not really relevant to any new production by this point in time.



I would say that is true only in the eye of the beholder. In short, that depends on what you want to see.

It could be worse, better or simply different. There's not enough information yet.

It will be like making a superman movie with batman. It just won't work, look at death note wasn't the same without L. Well at least light was still there. They need the original cast

[Hooves]

It's set in EU between S1 and R2, with a new cast. Zero was pretty much incapacitated at this point but I'm sure they'll sneak in some flashbacks or tv recordings to drum up sales. I would be pleasantly surprised if C.C. and Kallen make an appearance at some point, but I wouldn't expect even that to be honest. But this is Code Geass, so I'm more or less sure that Geass and/or immortals will be involved in one way or another. Let's simply look forward to a new story with new characters?

If the stage was sent in Europe, then we wont be seeing much action.. The Black Knights and Britannia basically fought in Japan, and China, as well as probably Britannia itself. But never heard of combat starting in Europe.. So sadly we might never seen what will happen.. Unless the new characters somehow end up in Japan or somewhere else where the battle was going to start.

[secretzfan]

If the stage was sent in Europe, then we wont be seeing much action.. The Black Knights and Britannia basically fought in Japan, and China, as well as probably Britannia itself. But never heard of combat starting in Europe.. So sadly we might never seen what will happen.. Unless the new characters somehow end up in Japan or somewhere else where the battle was going to start.
Of course Europe had a lot going on in it the talked about it up quite a bit. They always say the EU and the... or the EU has started this or that

[GundamFan0083]

I concur that it is highly likely the Gaiden will take place in the EU somewhere.

The online Code Geass wiki describes the status of the EU in the Code Geass world. (http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Euro_Universe)

If the wiki is correct then the EU was a formidable adversary of Britannia capable of fielding KMF style mecha nearly equal to that of the 7th Generation KMFs (according to mahq) (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/codegeass/geass.htm).

[Betteroffer]

If the stage was sent in Europe, then we wont be seeing much action.. The Black Knights and Britannia basically fought in Japan, and China, as well as probably Britannia itself. But never heard of combat starting in Europe.. So sadly we might never seen what will happen.. Unless the new characters somehow end up in Japan or somewhere else where the battle was going to start.

Well, the story itself almost always focused on Japan, but there was no shortage of action going on elsewhere in the world. It was stated in R2 that Schneizel had conquered half of the EU, meaning that there was substantial fighting going on during the timeskip, and given the diversity and size of the EU's territory (it includes Russia and Africa) there would be numerous settings and fronts for conflict to occur on.

Beyond this, the EU shared many boarders with the Chinese Federation, meaning that the EU could face problems from two superpowers rather than just one.

[Hooves]

This gives me the feeling they are completely going to give the same feel they first gave for Code Geass, but without any knowledge of the power of "Geass" being known in this new project. Just showing how Britannia Conquered it, the other wars EU had, and probably a conflict between when the Black Knights took over the Chinese Federation, and conflicts between EU and the Black Knights

[Betteroffer]

This gives me the feeling they are completely going to give the same feel they first gave for Code Geass, but without any knowledge of the power of "Geass" being known in this new project. Just showing how Britannia Conquered it, the other wars EU had, and probably a conflict between when the Black Knights took over the Chinese Federation, and conflicts between EU and the Black Knights

Actually, they could involve Geass if any of the cast are mebers of the Geass Order. I recall some early translations of promotional material saying something about child soldiers and "boys and girls of eleven" with the latter being discussed as either meaning Japanese children, or a total of eleven children. These children could have been from the Order like Rolo.

[rebel01]

When Will They Making A Video For This :heh:

[secretzfan]

When Will They Making A Video For This :heh:

They already have one

[rebel01]

can you give me the links . Thanks .

[secretzfan]

can you give me the links . Thanks .

It isn't much though unless you can translate the Japanese text: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4&feature=related

[konart]

It isn't much though unless you can translate the Japanese text: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4&feature=related

We have it looooong time ago

In this broken world, we still dream

a.t.b.2017

The hellish European front.

A small squad infiltrates enemy territory to save their allies.

That squadron’s Nightmare Devicers are boys and girls from Zone 11.

The mission’s chance of success is only 5%.

Why do they fight?

[Nobodyman9]

Hmm, so it's like Saving Private Ryan.

[morbosfist]

With giant robots!

[Hooves]

With giant robots!

You cant forget about the giant robots no matter what happens :p

[rebel01]

In this broken world, we still dream

a.t.b.2017

The hellish European front.

A small squad infiltrates enemy territory to save their allies.

That squadron’s Nightmare Devicers are boys and girls from Zone 11.

The mission’s chance of success is only 5%.

Why do they fight?

that's area 11 right .. so can any1 explain why there would be area 11 in this series :confused:
or in this series its just another time
im sure this is fake :3

[morbosfist]

Area 11 and Zone 11 are no doubt different things.

[secretzfan]

Area 11 and Zone 11 are no doubt different things.
Well we don't really know that we might just have to wait till the series comes out, but does really matter if it is area 11 or not if the original characters won't even be in the series beside maybe Suzaku

[TrueElements]

that's area 11 right .. so can any1 explain why there would be area 11 in this series :confused:
or in this series its just another time
im sure this is fake :3

you most reeeeeeeeeeeead more.

its not really a new series, this is still same old CG its just taking place between like episode 22-25 if i remember correct.

Think of it as a side story of things we didn't see happen. L

[konart]

that's area 11 right .. so can any1 explain why there would be area 11 in this series :confused:
or in this series its just another time
im sure this is fake :3

It's just a translation of the teaser. The cake is a fake, but not these.

The area 11 would be on the same place lol - Japan.

[lightbringer]

that's area 11 right .. so can any1 explain why there would be area 11 in this series :confused:
or in this series its just another time
im sure this is fake :3

I'm pretty sure that teaser video was established as legit a long time ago. Well, people might whine at a new cast, but there's also a chance for the OotBK to appear if it takes place before the Black Rebellion and not right after.

[GundamFan0083]

Yes it is legit.
It was on the Birthday celebration disc released last April.

[ditn]

wasn't the website open 10 september?
Any new info yet?

[konart]

wasn't the website open 10 september?
Any new info yet?

What website? This one: http://geass.jp/new_project/index.html ? Nothing really new there.

[Xander]

Sunrise updated the website on the 10th, yes, but the only thing they did was add the new mecha design we had already seen in Newtype. :heh: Perhaps the new series is still in pre-production? I suppose we'll see small updates gradually trickle-down once every month until the big one finally comes up.

[miroku2192]

Oh Em Gee when are we going to actually see something?

I miss code geass so much, I really liked the two seasons so much. Lelouche was just so awesome

[lightbringer]

Patience. We had to wait like two months (or was it four months?) for the last two episodes of the first season, and then almost a year for the start of the second season. This is nothing :D

[akire_and_atem]

Patience. We had to wait like two months (or was it four months?) for the last two episodes of the first season, and then almost a year for the start of the second season. This is nothing :D

I waited around 4/5 years for the Full Metal Panic! Novels to finally end...so yeah this is nothing


still, it's killing me :p

[akire_and_atem]

(should I consider this as a double post? I wrote the other one a while so... :/)

ok, so now I'm starting to lose my patience...so much for my resolve X.X [kill me..kill me now...]

wtheck! wasn't September the month to know a little bit more about this project?? we're almost at the end of this month

TT-TT I can no longer trust the rumors *sniff*

[Roloko vi Britannia]

(should I consider this as a double post? I wrote the other one a while so... :/)

ok, so now I'm starting to lose my patience...so much for my resolve X.X [kill me..kill me now...]

wtheck! wasn't September the month to know a little bit more about this project?? we're almost at the end of this month

TT-TT I can no longer trust the rumors *sniff*

Only new thing they gave us this month was a picture of a knightmare frame and that was it :)

[secretzfan]

The info on Gaiden always was small. I think a little like this you'll proabaly get tons of new news after that new Code Geass light novel about Renya comes out

[rinichan]

OMG!!! I was asking at the wrong threads finally I found this one....

Is this info ever true?
Posted on 2Channel, we've been able to gather information a new Code Geass project known as Code Geass Gaiden: Boukoku no Akito (Akito of the Ruined Nation) is in the works. What we know is it's set in atb 2017, seven years after the start of the original Code Geass series, likely 5-6 years after the end of Lelouch's story, and unfortunately the world peace that was supposed to ensue didn't. Europe is in the midst of a big war-- and a small squadron of folks from Area 11 are on a mission that has only a 5% likelihood of success. Not much else is known about this new Code Geass Project the reason it is believe to be an anime is the credits from trailer lists many people who primarily only work with animes. CLAMP will be back for character designs, as will Akira Yasuda for Knightmare Frames. And Ichirou Okouchi and Gorou Taniguchi, who came up with the original Code Geass story, will be back for this new piece. There are also some newcomers to the franchise: One Shigeru Morita, who did scripts for Mobile Suit Gundam Seed and a variety of episodes of Blood+ and Toward the Terra, will be on screenplay duty for the new Geass. And Kazuki Akane, whose directed works like Vision of Escaflowne and Noein, will helm the new series.

[akire_and_atem]

OMG!!! I was asking at the wrong threads finally I found this one....

Is this info ever true?
Posted on 2Channel, we've been able to gather information a new Code Geass project known as Code Geass Gaiden: Boukoku no Akito (Akito of the Ruined Nation) is in the works. What we know is it's set in atb 2017, seven years after the start of the original Code Geass series, likely 5-6 years after the end of Lelouch's story, and unfortunately the world peace that was supposed to ensue didn't. Europe is in the midst of a big war-- and a small squadron of folks from Area 11 are on a mission that has only a 5% likelihood of success. Not much else is known about this new Code Geass Project the reason it is believe to be an anime is the credits from trailer lists many people who primarily only work with animes. CLAMP will be back for character designs, as will Akira Yasuda for Knightmare Frames. And Ichirou Okouchi and Gorou Taniguchi, who came up with the original Code Geass story, will be back for this new piece. There are also some newcomers to the franchise: One Shigeru Morita, who did scripts for Mobile Suit Gundam Seed and a variety of episodes of Blood+ and Toward the Terra, will be on screenplay duty for the new Geass. And Kazuki Akane, whose directed works like Vision of Escaflowne and Noein, will helm the new series.

I hope it's true, it kinda sounds like it does... more like, I want to believe it, thanks! :D

[dragonmeister]

OMG!!! I was asking at the wrong threads finally I found this one....

Is this info ever true?
Posted on 2Channel, we've been able to gather information a new Code Geass project known as Code Geass Gaiden: Boukoku no Akito (Akito of the Ruined Nation) is in the works. What we know is it's set in atb 2017, seven years after the start of the original Code Geass series, likely 5-6 years after the end of Lelouch's story, and unfortunately the world peace that was supposed to ensue didn't. Europe is in the midst of a big war-- and a small squadron of folks from Area 11 are on a mission that has only a 5% likelihood of success. Not much else is known about this new Code Geass Project the reason it is believe to be an anime is the credits from trailer lists many people who primarily only work with animes. CLAMP will be back for character designs, as will Akira Yasuda for Knightmare Frames. And Ichirou Okouchi and Gorou Taniguchi, who came up with the original Code Geass story, will be back for this new piece. There are also some newcomers to the franchise: One Shigeru Morita, who did scripts for Mobile Suit Gundam Seed and a variety of episodes of Blood+ and Toward the Terra, will be on screenplay duty for the new Geass. And Kazuki Akane, whose directed works like Vision of Escaflowne and Noein, will helm the new series.

2017's when the first series started (the start of the Black Rebellion) - August 2010 was when the Holy Britannian Empire invaded Japan, conquered it with Knightmares and made it into Area 11 - so this new gaiden's set around the time that Lelouch gained his geass/ founded the Black Knights

[secretzfan]

OMG!!! I was asking at the wrong threads finally I found this one....

Is this info ever true?
Posted on 2Channel, we've been able to gather information a new Code Geass project known as Code Geass Gaiden: Boukoku no Akito (Akito of the Ruined Nation) is in the works. What we know is it's set in atb 2017, seven years after the start of the original Code Geass series, likely 5-6 years after the end of Lelouch's story, and unfortunately the world peace that was supposed to ensue didn't. Europe is in the midst of a big war-- and a small squadron of folks from Area 11 are on a mission that has only a 5% likelihood of success. Not much else is known about this new Code Geass Project the reason it is believe to be an anime is the credits from trailer lists many people who primarily only work with animes. CLAMP will be back for character designs, as will Akira Yasuda for Knightmare Frames. And Ichirou Okouchi and Gorou Taniguchi, who came up with the original Code Geass story, will be back for this new piece. There are also some newcomers to the franchise: One Shigeru Morita, who did scripts for Mobile Suit Gundam Seed and a variety of episodes of Blood+ and Toward the Terra, will be on screenplay duty for the new Geass. And Kazuki Akane, whose directed works like Vision of Escaflowne and Noein, will helm the new series.
Yupo the whole thing is true and yes Lelouch is dead now

[Revolutionist]

So is it 2017 or post Zero Requiem like 2023-ish? The idea of a series set within the regular CG story is not bad, kinda like 8th MS team was to UC 0079, but something brand new, post ZR would probably be best.

[GundamFan0083]

It's supposed to be between S1 and R2, but it's still to soon to be sure.

[miroku2192]

What i'm so confused now...what exactly is going on? What happened to the code geass project about the past or something...whatttt!?!?!?

[GundamFan0083]

That's the manga called "Renya of the Dark."
It's written by Taniguichi and is official.
There is also a new anime coming out called Code Geass Gaiden: Bōkoku no Akito.
You can read about it here.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced

[miroku2192]

That's the manga called "Renya of the Dark."
It's written by Taniguichi and is official.
There is also a new anime coming out called Code Geass Gaiden: Bōkoku no Akito.
You can read about it here.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced

Oh man...so no Lelouche? I feel like code geass animation just won't be the same without lelouche...

And is this like a super small anime project or something? Don't see one team performing a rescue mission spanning over 26 or even 13 episodes...unless they have yet to release a bunch of info.

Gah I wish they'd just pull a super mind-fuc* and be like LOLOLOL HERE'S LELOUCHE HE'S ACTUALLY ALIVE LULULULULULLUL

[secretzfan]

Oh man...so no Lelouche? I feel like code geass animation just won't be the same without lelouche...

And is this like a super small anime project or something? Don't see one team performing a rescue mission spanning over 26 or even 13 episodes...unless they have yet to release a bunch of info.

Gah I wish they'd just pull a super mind-fuc* and be like LOLOLOL HERE'S LELOUCHE HE'S ACTUALLY ALIVE LULULULULULLUL

It wouldn't make sense if Lelouch was really dead, but I got hopes for Lelouch coming back well at the least bring in Suzaku I mean he is wearing the zero helmet now

[TrueElements]

bring lelouch back defeats the point of the zero requiem, unless he lived like some hermit in a cave.

And 26 episodes is good for an anime these days, unless its some super shonen it might not make it past 12-13. If it is some shonen it makes it to about 26 which is like average now, with maybe a second season.

Now if its one of those gundam type animes it could be 26 episodes over 9000 series, or like the big 3 actually make 300+ episodes hell even hitman! reborn made 200+ and I thought Tsuna was the most annoying character ever.

[secretzfan]

bring lelouch back defeats the point of the zero requiem, unless he lived like some hermit in a cave.

And 26 episodes is good for an anime these days, unless its some super shonen it might not make it past 12-13. If it is some shonen it makes it to about 26 which is like average now, with maybe a second season.

Now if its one of those gundam type animes it could be 26 episodes over 9000 series, or like the big 3 actually make 300+ episodes hell even hitman! reborn made 200+ and I thought Tsuna was the most annoying character ever.

True bring Lelouch abck would ruin the zero requiem. but they could always have Lelouch in hiding. Lelouch being hidden from the world

[kramerica]

He's dead until the story needs him :P

Zero requiem could just mean it's the end of his current life as Lelouch. Like death in arcana terms, it's not physical death, but a transition to another phase in life.

[Xander]

Thankfully, it does not seem that the new animated project will deal with the issue in any way, shape or form...mostly because Lelouch was busy doing his own thing in Japan at the time these "new" events in Europe happened. :heh:

[miroku2192]

He's dead until the story needs him :P

Zero requiem could just mean it's the end of his current life as Lelouch. Like death in arcana terms, it's not physical death, but a transition to another phase in life.

I agree, and there's nothing wrong with him living if he chooses to live in a secluded area by himself/with C.C...In fact I prefer that to be the case, that C.C. passed on the immortality to Lelouche and that he will keep her smiling for the rest of her life until she passes away of old age.

And honestly I wish they'd be continuing with the current code geass plot, like x years after the supposed "death" of the evil king lelouche, shits going down again, and what seems like total utter chaos = saved by Lelouche.

Anyway, really just wishing he'd stick with C.C. and fulfill his promise to her, that she will die with a smile on her face.

[GundamFan0083]

*sigh*

Looks like it's time for this:

npjOSLCR2hE

[TrueElements]

I can here ZBs banned ghost raging...

[Roloko vi Britannia]

I can here ZBs banned ghost raging...

This and if Syri from Gaia had an account on here she would show no mercy and rain hell upon them too. Unless ZB was Syri :uhoh:


Well anyways didn't they say they was going to release new music this year too along with the anime project and the manga?? I wonder if they will say anything about that anytime soon.

[GundamFan0083]

I can here ZBs banned ghost raging...

Ah! Zetsuo Bunny got banned?
When did that happen?
It didn't have anything to do with Code Geass I hope.
She was very passionate about certain elements of this show, especially since the new project was announced.

[Roloko vi Britannia]

Ah! Zetsuo Bunny got banned?
When did that happen?
It didn't have anything to do with Code Geass I hope.
She was very passionate about certain elements of this show, especially since the new project was announced.

like 3 or so months ago

[rinichan]

Yupo the whole thing is true and yes Lelouch is dead now

I know Lelouch is dead for now

how can you say the info is real? any immediate source of this yet, I ask from the other threads and they said this was posted from anime-access. Is anime-access reliable ?

[Laurcus]

Yes, Lelouch is dead. If you desperately want him to be alive, then take solace in the fact (and in my mind it is a fact) one day Sunrise will decide to milk the series for all it's worth and use some sort of plot haxx to bring him back at a very dramatic moment, just to get as many fans as possible watching, so they can make loads of cash.

But until that day we can just let the subject rest. As for the new series... I want more info NAO!!!!!11!!2

[rinichan]

Hey this pic come from the PD anyone know
who this is?

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7871/picture2copyi.png
My wild guess this girl could be from EU.

Thanks, if this is already answered kindly redirect me there. ok.?

[morbosfist]

It's the Euro loli. They needed one to complete the set.

[rinichan]

It's the Euro loli. They needed one to complete the set.
so whats her name?

[TrueElements]

Ah! Zetsuo Bunny got banned?
When did that happen?
It didn't have anything to do with Code Geass I hope.
She was very passionate about certain elements of this show, especially since the new project was announced.

yeah ZB was banned for making people cry by forcing them to accept lelouchs death with amazing logic and quotes from the director.

[morbosfist]

so whats her name?She doesn't have one as far as I know. Her being the Euro loli is just an educated guess based on the outfit and where she's sitting.

[akire_and_atem]

can we call them "Axis Geass Loli Force" pleeeease pretty please :D???

[secretzfan]

I know Lelouch is dead for now

how can you say the info is real? any immediate source of this yet, I ask from the other threads and they said this was posted from anime-access. Is anime-access reliable ?

That is easy there was a teaser

[D-KLAC]

darn it all really can't take it anymore i rather find or one day IF i see that direk goro so want give a beating to a bloody mess with a sledgehammer, singapore cane, & barbed wire bat till i get geass top be restart/reboot to be "saved".

that means no more lies, no backstab, no betrayal, save the innocient lives, give a REAL second chance, etc besides i still do NOT way geass is now.

i'll be daMed that it stay like cause i will MAKE sure it will be "saved" & get the goody happy happy happy ending to "SAVE" geass world.

[Revolutionist]

Sucks seeing that Holy Sword member alive and in an position of power...

and Schneizel was completely destroyed. no more fabulous outfits, it's all about the generic suits now =/

[azul120]

The nagger, you mean? :P

[secretzfan]

so whats her name?

She has one it just hasn't been revealed

[D-KLAC]

hmm who give that i still want my restart/reboot geass series make events of r1 & r2 being non-canon or new season involve TIME TRAVEL to prevent all those "events" yea that means

1.stop evil parents plans
2.give suzaku his "girl" back
3.no more lies, betrayal, backstab, evil, etc
4.give everyone a goody two shoes happy ending

etc etc etc overall make sure all of r1 & r2 not true & fix the geass timeline for that it's "SAVED".

[FoxxFireArt]

I've been hearing rumors that the new Knightmare sketch that has been shown will be called "Gaiden". Has that been confirmed??

That just strikes me as odd. Everything about the design says Britannian design. Looking at the sketch work. It looks as if it's just pre-Lancelot. It looks humanoid, but rather rough. A lof of the mechanics are showing. Why would a Britannian KMF be given a Japanese name?

Everyone keeps saying that this new series take place in 2017. Isn't that the date of the beginning of the regular Code Geass series?
Britannia invaded in 2010, when Lelouch and Suzaku were little; then there was a "Seven Years Later" gap. That's 2017 when Lelouch was first given the Geass.

[secretzfan]

I've been hearing rumors that the new Knightmare sketch that has been shown will be called "Gaiden". Has that been confirmed??

That just strikes me as odd. Everything about the design says Britannian design. Looking at the sketch work. It looks as if it's just pre-Lancelot. It looks humanoid, but rather rough. A lof of the mechanics are showing. Why would a Britannian KMF be given a Japanese name?

Everyone keeps saying that this new series take place in 2017. Isn't that the date of the beginning of the regular Code Geass series?
Britannia invaded in 2010, when Lelouch and Suzaku were little; then there was a "Seven Years Later" gap. That's 2017 when Lelouch was first given the Geass.

That one year before r2 started and it does take place 2017

[miroku2192]

^Yeah 2017 is when all of code geass R1 took place, and in 2018, r2 takes place and so does zero requiem.

So a lot takes place in 2017, so I'm curious as to see where they start.

[TrueElements]

we know it takes place before episode 20(?) or 21(?), before the black knights turned on him seeing as he still plays the role of zero in this.

[secretzfan]

we know it takes place before episode 20(?) or 21(?), before the black knights turned on him seeing as he still plays the role of zero in this.

But he isn't apart of Gaiden officially

[TrueElements]

most play some parts since this is one of the few gaiden photos out there.

http://yfrog.com/0kteaseruj

[secretzfan]

most play some parts since this is one of the few gaiden photos out there.

http://yfrog.com/0kteaseruj

WTF well the Japanese news thing on youtube was right I guess

[Xander]

FoxxFireArt:

As far as we know, the new Knightmare Frame is not called Gaiden.

Code Geass Gaiden is the name of the new anime.

I imagine you've heard confusing or inaccurate reports.

most play some parts since this is one of the few gaiden photos out there.

http://yfrog.com/0kteaseruj

A bit redundant when we already have the actual video...without the out-of-place Lelouch pictures. :heh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4

[secretzfan]

FoxxFireArt:

As far as we know, the new Knightmare Frame is not called Gaiden.

Code Geass Gaiden is the name of the new anime.

I imagine you've heard confusing or inaccurate reports.



A bit redundant when we already have the actual video...without the out-of-place Lelouch pictures. :heh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4

The knightmare info came from some site

[FoxxFireArt]

The knightmare info came from some site

I bring it up, because while I was on wikipedia. I saw an update on the Knightmare Frame page that said the new KMF was going to be called "Gaiden". That didn't seem right.
I was there, because I was working on updating the KMF page on Anime Vice, and I was fact checking some information on components. When I get done with that page. It's going to kick the ass of wikipedia's.


Doesn't "Gaiden" basically mean side-story? Perhaps this anime will tell events just prior to the R1 season.
One thing that always bugged me. They never really explained well why C.C. backed out the the whole plan of Marianne and Charles, then went to follow a young Lelouch in Japan, as she was seen in the first episode.

I wonder if we will actually get to see more of those Knight of the Round we saw so little of before. Such as how Dorothea Ernst was only seen for one episode and killed moments later. Such a waste of one hot looking woman.

Not to get off topic, but I always wish they would of told the story about the time gap between Kallen running away at the end of R1 and when she met up with C.C. to tell her about everything. Did C.C. go in search for Kallen, or did Kallen find C.C.? That could of been pretty interesting.

[rinichan]

I bring it up, because while I was on wikipedia. I saw an update on the Knightmare Frame page that said the new KMF was going to be called "Gaiden". That didn't seem right.
I was there, because I was working on updating the KMF page on Anime Vice, and I was fact checking some information on components. When I get done with that page. It's going to kick the ass of wikipedia's.


Doesn't "Gaiden" basically mean side-story? Perhaps this anime will tell events just prior to the R1 season.
One thing that always bugged me. They never really explained well why C.C. backed out the the whole plan of Marianne and Charles, then went to follow a young Lelouch in Japan, as she was seen in the first episode.

I wonder if we will actually get to see more of those Knight of the Round we saw so little of before. Such as how Dorothea Ernst was only seen for one episode and killed moments later. Such a waste of one hot looking woman.

Not to get off topic, but I always wish they would of told the story about the time gap between Kallen running away at the end of R1 and when she met up with C.C. to tell her about everything. Did C.C. go in search for Kallen, or did Kallen find C.C.? That could of been pretty interesting.
the KMF in the site (http://geass.jp/new_project/index.html) looks like Medabots to me....(its so looked girlie)

and oh did Kallen know that C.C. is immortal?

[secretzfan]

I bring it up, because while I was on wikipedia. I saw an update on the Knightmare Frame page that said the new KMF was going to be called "Gaiden". That didn't seem right.
I was there, because I was working on updating the KMF page on Anime Vice, and I was fact checking some information on components. When I get done with that page. It's going to kick the ass of wikipedia's.


Doesn't "Gaiden" basically mean side-story? Perhaps this anime will tell events just prior to the R1 season.
One thing that always bugged me. They never really explained well why C.C. backed out the the whole plan of Marianne and Charles, then went to follow a young Lelouch in Japan, as she was seen in the first episode.

I wonder if we will actually get to see more of those Knight of the Round we saw so little of before. Such as how Dorothea Ernst was only seen for one episode and killed moments later. Such a waste of one hot looking woman.

Not to get off topic, but I always wish they would of told the story about the time gap between Kallen running away at the end of R1 and when she met up with C.C. to tell her about everything. Did C.C. go in search for Kallen, or did Kallen find C.C.? That could of been pretty interesting.
Well yea Gaiden did mean side story I wasn't sure much about the knightmare thing anyway. People seem to be going to far with the info gathered. Officially hardly any info on Gaiden has come out

[D-KLAC]

goro you rather be reading this cause if do not get my idea for geass next project to be restart/reboot geass series make events of r1 & r2 being non-canon or new season involve TIME TRAVEL to prevent all those "events" yea that means

1.stop evil parents plans
2.give suzaku his "girl" back
3.no more lies, betrayal, backstab, evil, etc
4.give everyone a goody two shoes happy ending

etc etc etc overall make sure all of r1 & r2 not true & fix the geass timeline for that it's "SAVED".


so that i can my GOODY HAPPY HAPPY ENDING & if you're still not you will be this happen to you & those who worked on your abomination http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-271GIsZU

[miroku2192]

I bring it up, because while I was on wikipedia. I saw an update on the Knightmare Frame page that said the new KMF was going to be called "Gaiden". That didn't seem right.
I was there, because I was working on updating the KMF page on Anime Vice, and I was fact checking some information on components. When I get done with that page. It's going to kick the ass of wikipedia's.


Doesn't "Gaiden" basically mean side-story? Perhaps this anime will tell events just prior to the R1 season.
One thing that always bugged me. They never really explained well why C.C. backed out the the whole plan of Marianne and Charles, then went to follow a young Lelouch in Japan, as she was seen in the first episode.

I wonder if we will actually get to see more of those Knight of the Round we saw so little of before. Such as how Dorothea Ernst was only seen for one episode and killed moments later. Such a waste of one hot looking woman.

Not to get off topic, but I always wish they would of told the story about the time gap between Kallen running away at the end of R1 and when she met up with C.C. to tell her about everything. Did C.C. go in search for Kallen, or did Kallen find C.C.? That could of been pretty interesting.

I would just like a story that follows C.C. really. There's so much about her that we don't really get to see, and we could really get some good insight if they made a few ovas or something on her. Maybe even throw in Mao (lawl).

The other thing I'm curious about is the whole "race" of people with the code. There should be a lot more, how come we only see 2 people? C.C. and V.V.? What about all the others who probably have geass too?

Anyway, does anyone have any clue as to when this will be out?

@D-Klac:
Can you stop posting that? I think I've read that same thing like 3 times now. It gets kind of annoying.

edit: yeah just checked, the last two times you posted in this thread, you said pretty much the same thing. how about contributing to the thread as opposed to spamming with the same stuff?

[Tetsu Aero]

The new anime's title haven't changed and is still Code Geass - Gaiden: Bokoku no Akito.

[Xander]

I would just like a story that follows C.C. really. There's so much about her that we don't really get to see, and we could really get some good insight if they made a few ovas or something on her.

Honestly, I'm thinking you'll have better luck finding some of that information in the new manga than in the upcoming anime project. For one thing, we've already seen her there (both in promotional materials and in the chapters released so far) , it seems to deal with more Geass-related subjects and appears to take place in the past. She's not the protagonist, of course, but C.C. has made regular appearances there.

If you happen to be interested enough, I would tell you to go to the manga thread for more information and discussion. Perhaps it won't be exactly what you wanted to see but at least it's something.

[Arbitres]

God in heaven... There is still nothing?

The OVA is still eluding us like a Duke Nukem scenario. Or maybe it's just the waiting.

[faiz blaster]

goro you rather be reading this cause if do not get my idea for geass next project to be restart/reboot geass series make events of r1 & r2 being non-canon or new season involve TIME TRAVEL to prevent all those "events" yea that means

1.stop evil parents plans
2.give suzaku his "girl" back
3.no more lies, betrayal, backstab, evil, etc
4.give everyone a goody two shoes happy ending

etc etc etc overall make sure all of r1 & r2 not true & fix the geass timeline for that it's "SAVED".


so that i can my GOODY HAPPY HAPPY ENDING & if you're still not you will be this happen to you & those who worked on your abominationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-271GIsZU

First of all, you're as difficult to understand as usual. Please, try to be a little more clearer and improve your grammar.

Secondly, how many times do you intend to repeat the same thing? Nobody likes a troll!

[secretzfan]

goro you rather be reading this cause if do not get my idea for geass next project to be restart/reboot geass series make events of r1 & r2 being non-canon or new season involve TIME TRAVEL to prevent all those "events" yea that means

1.stop evil parents plans
2.give suzaku his "girl" back
3.no more lies, betrayal, backstab, evil, etc
4.give everyone a goody two shoes happy ending

etc etc etc overall make sure all of r1 & r2 not true & fix the geass timeline for that it's "SAVED".


so that i can my GOODY HAPPY HAPPY ENDING & if you're still not you will be this happen to you & those who worked on your abomination http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-271GIsZU

It isn't happening dude

[FoxxFireArt]

I would just like a story that follows C.C. really. There's so much about her that we don't really get to see, and we could really get some good insight if they made a few ovas or something on her. Maybe even throw in Mao (lawl).

The other thing I'm curious about is the whole "race" of people with the code. There should be a lot more, how come we only see 2 people? C.C. and V.V.? What about all the others who probably have geass too?



Well, isnt there going to be that Renya manga series that follows C.C. in the Edo period. That's being handled as canon manga. I'm not sure C.C. will be covered in this Gaiden anime. Maybe if it's a prequel.

[secretzfan]

Well, isnt there going to be that Renya manga series that follows C.C. in the Edo period. That's being handled as canon manga. I'm not sure C.C. will be covered in this Gaiden anime. Maybe if it's a prequel.

But Gaiden isn't a prequel it is a side story

[D-KLAC]

It isn't happening dude

it MUST HAPPEN really not everyone is still darn ok with that "trainwrecK" really you're just blind & not really know the REAL TRUTH.

cause really r1- & r-2 must be non-canon or be altered & the GOODY HAPPY HAPPY TWO ENDING MUST HAPPEN.

really do i have goes NEXUS on this to happen.

[ImmortalFire]

it MUST HAPPEN really not everyone is still darn ok with that "trainwrecK" really you're just blind & not really know the REAL TRUTH.

cause really r1- & r-2 must be non-canon or be altered & the GOODY HAPPY HAPPY TWO ENDING MUST HAPPEN.

really do i have goes NEXUS on this to happen.
Happy ending? You must elaborate on this.
Because to me, the ending, though tragic, couldn't have been more epic. At least...put into the perspective it deserves

[Arbitres]

You should really ignore D-KLAC.

Hopefully there'll be an actually decent update for Akito gaiden.

[azul120]

Happy ending? You must elaborate on this.
Because to me, the ending, though tragic, couldn't have been more epic. At least...put into the perspective it deserves

It was all too contrived to be given the kind of spin they aimed for. They were only aiming for the epic part. There was too much wrong with it aside from that. It was a huge pile of narm.

[Xander]

@Arbitres:

It would be relatively reasonable for next month's Newtype to bring us an update, considering this would be about one year after the original announcement was made. I'm not going to bet on it though, since we really have no idea about the production and advertising schedules involved.

It was all too contrived to be given the kind of spin they aimed for. They were only aiming for the epic part. There was too much wrong with it aside from that. It was a huge pile of narm.

First, so-called "narm" is one of the most variable and subjective things in this world.

Second, D-KLAC himself has...his own issues and concerns, for lack of a better description. Honestly, I'd rather not elaborate on any of that myself and instead let him do so if he actually wishes to talk about the ending.

And third, while there are certain more or less commonly agreed upon flaws in the ending...I would say some of us have a slightly to moderately different interpretation, to say the least, than the one you've presented above.

Still, I'd think there are more appropriate discussion topics for this thread than going over all of that once again.

[KazePT]

Hum, talking about this new project:

This new story, happens in the "same" world as the first one.
At what extend do you guys think that the power of Geass is "out there"?
We never really had any explanation of "where" or "when" the Geass power was born right?
I'm guessing that we will see some characters that we know, like V.V. (because he seems to have some importance when it comes to the power of the geass)
Or people from that "village" where the Geass studies where held.

I can't wait for it to come out!

[GundamFan0083]

I'm hoping for some more explanations about the origins of Geass and VV's story as well.
This Gaiden takes place sometime between S1 and R2 and is set in the European Theater (Euro-Universe I believe it's called).

I hope it's not just another Gundam 0080 A War in the Pocket, even though I liked that OVA in the Gundam world I'm not so sure how it would work out in Geass.

If the internet is any indication, then many (if not most) of the CG fans want a sequel from what I've experienced.
Maybe I'm wrong, but you sure wouldn't know judging by the sheer number of fanfiction sequels, and bulliten board forums where people are demanding an R3.

[azul120]

Changes along the lines of something something Zero Requiem fails, fan favored characters unfairly stuffed into fridge come back (believably, too), problems not solved through some half-baked fake dictator world peace scheme as veiled suicide?

[Xander]

I'm hoping for some more explanations about the origins of Geass and VV's story as well.


In all honesty, I'd rather see them avoid dealing with the origins of Geass at all unless the story has a very specific reason to go into those details. It's better to keep things simple. In some ways, the original series could have gotten away with explaining even less if that had contributed to making the central narrative stronger and more focused than what it was (maybe this is, curiously, what Okouchi meant when he said they had "overdone" the explanations?).

For example, I could see that in a hypothetical prequel about how Charles rose to the throne (V.V. should play a major role there) or even in the ongoing Renya of the Darkness, further down the line, but a side story set in Europe that may or may not bring any existing characters back into the fold...doesn't seem like the most natural place to do so. If they somehow manage to pull it off though, I certainly won't complain.


This Gaiden takes place sometime between S1 and R2 and is set in the European Theater (Euro-Universe I believe it's called).


Gaiden is supposed to take place in the year a.t.b. 2017 but there's no information on whether it's intended to take place between seasons, or, say, simply earlier in the year. Strictly speaking, everything could happen without going beyond the time frame of the first season. We don't really know that much, so neither possibility can be dismissed.


I hope it's not just another Gundam 0080 A War in the Pocket, even though I liked that OVA in the Gundam world I'm not so sure how it would work out in Geass.

Who knows...I don't see why that approach -or a similar one- wouldn't work. It keeps things relatively self-contained and doesn't interfere with what actually happened during the main story. The same thing goes for Gundam: 08th Mobile Suit Team, which would be more along the lines of what I'd personally want to watch.

If the internet is any indication, then many (if not most) of the CG fans want a sequel from what I've experienced.
Maybe I'm wrong, but you sure wouldn't know judging by the sheer number of fanfiction sequels, and bulliten board forums where people are demanding an R3.

You're correct, but I'm glad that sometimes companies don't necessarily do exactly what the fans want...and yet still end up making a profit in spite of this.

Listening a bit too much to the fans and pandering to them, at least in certain areas, was one of R2's biggest issues in my opinion.

Changes along the lines of something something Zero Requiem fails, fan favored characters unfairly stuffed into fridge come back (believably, too), problems not solved through some half-baked fake dictator world peace scheme as veiled suicide?

For what it's worth, even if there are unresolved problems that need to be addressed this doesn't necessarily mean Zero Requiem "failed" as long as the world is still marginally to moderately better off than what it was before. A state of permanent peace and harmony isn't required nor should it be automatically assumed.

They could come up with a new conflict or crisis that puts everything in jeopardy, years or decades after the fact, and still tell a decent enough tale without making the preceding conclusion pointless. At the very least, that's what I see on a conceptual level. Whether it would work out or not in practice is another matter.

[azul120]

In all honesty, I'd rather see them avoid dealing with the origins of Geass at all unless the story has a very specific reason to go into those details. It's better to keep things simple. In some ways, the original series could have gotten away with explaining even less if that had contributed to making the central narrative stronger and more focused than what it was (maybe this is, curiously, what Okouchi meant when he said they had "overdone" the explanations?).

For example, I could see that in a hypothetical prequel about how Charles rose to the throne (V.V. should play a major role there) or even in the ongoing Renya of the Darkness, further down the line, but a side story set in Europe that may or may not bring any existing characters back into the fold...doesn't seem like the most natural place to do so. If they somehow manage to pull it off though, I certainly won't complain.



Gaiden is supposed to take place in the year a.t.b. 2017 but there's no information on whether it's intended to take place between seasons, or, say, simply earlier in the year. Strictly speaking, everything could happen without going beyond the time frame of the first season. We don't really know that much, so neither possibility can be dismissed.



Who knows...I don't see why that approach -or a similar one- wouldn't work. It keeps things relatively self-contained and doesn't interfere with what actually happened during the main story. The same thing goes for Gundam: 08th Mobile Suit Team, which would be more along the lines of what I'd personally want to watch.



You're correct, but I'm glad that sometimes companies don't necessarily do exactly what the fans want...and yet still end up making a profit in spite of this.

Listening a bit too much to the fans and pandering to them, at least in certain areas, was one of R2's biggest issues in my opinion.



For what it's worth, even if there are unresolved problems that need to be addressed this doesn't necessarily mean Zero Requiem "failed" as long as the world is still marginally to moderately better off than what it was before. A state of permanent peace and harmony isn't required nor should it be automatically assumed.

They could come up with a new conflict or crisis that puts everything in jeopardy, years or decades after the fact, and still tell a decent enough tale without making the preceding conclusion pointless. At the very least, that's what I see on a conceptual level. Whether it would work out or not in practice is another matter.

Basically in the opinions of many, including my own, the Zero Requiem was just a veiled excuse for Lelouch to bail out of his problems and come up with a solution without having to be part of the accompanying process. And quite a messy solution it was, not to mention that he would have been a bigger asset to the world living than dead as one of the rebuilders.

[Xander]

Basically in the opinions of many, including my own, the Zero Requiem was just a veiled excuse for Lelouch to bail out of his problems and come up with a solution without having to be part of the accompanying process. And quite a messy solution it was, not to mention that he would have been a bigger asset to the world living than dead as one of the rebuilders.

And if so, so what? There were better, different options...that Lelouch certainly didn't feel like taking. His priorities (and, by extension, those of the writers) remained elsewhere on both an emotional and intellectual level. The plan is a reflection of both his overall personality and his state of mind at the time. I doubt Lelouch felt he deserved to go on living as an "asset to the world" by virtue of the literal mountain of accumulated guilt and pain he had to deal with.

I think that should be clear enough for many of us here. I don't substantially disagree with the underlying facts but, rather, with their ultimate interpretation. Just as well, I think most of the nuances of this discussion have been properly addressed before.

Despite my personal lack of enthusiasm about any potential sequel...as I've previously tried to communicate, that messy state of affairs could still be used as the starting point to tell another story if Sunrise ever wanted to do so. Which, once again, doesn't necessarily make Lelouch's plan senseless or meaningless.

[azul120]

Well, all that's true is that his young age and resulting lack of wisdom made him unable to cope.

But it's not only that. It's also the timing of the last couple traumas, which averted, could have spared him from taking that final dive, especially given that one of those things he thought happened didn't happen at all, made it a perfect Shakespearean tragedy.

And if they were to avoid making the end result senseless (meaning that the peace wouldn't be shattered), that would be utterly nonsensical. The best thing that could be taken away is that, as GundamFan0083's post-canon fanfic series lampshades, nature abhors a vacuum, and what humans really desire is liberty.

I know that if Charred Knight was here, he'd be explaining why the end result of Zero Requiem is a major case of Did Not Do The Research.

[Xander]

EDITED:

Nothing to see here other than my reply and more redundant discussion. Move along.

And if they were to avoid making the end result senseless (meaning
that the peace wouldn't be shattered), that would be utterly
nonsensical.

Which is where I still remain in absolute disagreement with you...in
both directions. The underlying point of the ending, what we can
consider its meaning, is not irrevocably tied to the resulting state
of world affairs. Why? Because, among other things, the show itself
includes at least two or three different conversations suggesting that
the peace isn't meant to be permanent, the most blatant of which is
Lelouch's discussion with Schneizel.

In other words, Lelouch himself is aware of the fact that he has not
brought about a final end to human conflict or even the so-called "End
of History" if you want to get philosophical here. And that is not, in
fact, a necessary condition for the ending to carry or convey meaning
in the context of its fictional story (and honestly, we would be
forced to acknowledge that all of our human actions are "meaningless"
if we were equally cynical about what each of our own lives amounts to
in the grand scheme of things). There are, for instance, emotional and
subjective dimensions involved that can be appreciated. "Meaning"
isn't necessarily objective.

Once again, I believe we have gone over all of the details more than
twice in the past. This really gives me a sense of déjà vu.
:heh:

The best thing that could be taken away is that, as
GundamFan0083's post-canon fanfic series lampshades, nature abhors a
vacuum, and what humans really desire is liberty.

And yet, said liberty also includes humanity's struggle to find
happiness and keep or restore the peace. Which is an idea mentioned by
the series itself and it's one that fits well within Lelouch's
expectations for the future. In other words, many different things
could happen without contradicting the ending. You don't even need to
lampshade it in order to create the premise for a new story. I have
not had the pleasure of reading that fanfic series, but at the end of
the day there will always be an endless number of possible outcomes.
Said vacuum does not need to remain forever empty.

I know that if Charred Knight was here, he'd be explaining why
the end result of Zero Requiem is a major case of Did Not Do The
Research.

And, as someone who is in fact a Bachelor of History (for those who
may care about credentials), I would be debating him. Just as I've
done so before.

That trope would only apply if Code Geass had any real obligation to
be or any pretension of being a scientific or historical documentary
set in a realistic world.

It does not and, I would argue, should not. "Doing the research" is
not a matter of reading up on the past and pretending that the future
-let alone the future of a fictional world that does not exist-
will simply be a repetition of it. Context and details are absolutely
important, not just linear extrapolations. The future can never be
predicted with absolute certainty, no matter how much you study the
past, because it relies on an infinite number of factors and their
endless variations. Trends can be identified but they are quite
complex and there are rival interpretations about them, not just a
single "truth" that can be universally accepted.

To put it another way...I think we could agree that Zero Requiem isn't
likely to last for too long, but anything more than that is
speculation...and subject to Sunrise's arbitrary plans. They literally
could choose to make it last months, years, decades or centuries. The
sky's the limit.

The argument is effectively over though and I will not continue it here.

[Arbitres]

I really do suggest not to get back into this, you two. This has been stated numerously, not just on this thread but also on other threads. This is just same old same with a heightened value of redundancy.

Besides this isn't the thread for this sort of discussion. It's for the New Code Geass stuff, If you can't help yourselves bring it back to the Generic Discussion Thread.

[Roloko vi Britannia]

I really do suggest not to get back into this, you two. This has been stated numerously, not just on this thread but also on other threads. This is just same old same with a heightened value of redundancy.

Besides this isn't the thread for this sort of discussion. It's for the New Code Geass stuff, If you can't help yourselves bring it back to the Generic Discussion Thread.

I agree with Ar guys this is getting old its the same argument over and over again its getting kind of annoying for the rest of us to hear the same exact thing everyday, but at least do it in the appropriate thread.

[azul120]

Sorry, didn't mean to derail. Just stating why Lelouch's story wouldn't necessarily have to be over, in response to what was said earlier.