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dragonz20
2004-03-08, 15:19
Geez,

I was expecting this to be a fun kiddy anime but this turned out to be pretty violent. Seems like people die every other episode or so. I was especially moved after a specific episode involving a little girl...

this anime is great still. disturbing and yet touching...

Vulkar
2004-03-08, 15:28
this anime is great still. disturbing and yet touching...

Yeah, I agree. Some of the stuff people do for alchemy is pretty disturbing and the way Scar kills people is pretty violent itself.

Though this is disturbing, I suggest you check out The Galaxy Express 999 TV series. Pretty dark stuff happens there too and for some reason I expected that, like Fullmetal Alchemist, to be more upbeat.

Kiro
2004-03-08, 15:47
i too was really shocked when said person was killed. at one time, it's really lighthearted, if not funny and from one moment to another it gets really serious, violent or scary and for me this is the reason, why i was higly disturbed when she died.

if some character in the anime/manga "berserk" would die, one would at most be sad, because he liked the character, but it isn't something unexpected from a series like berserk to see someone die.

i think, that fma disturbed everyone at that moment because nobody expected the series to be like that. there do happen worse thing in other animes, but because you really don't expect it from fma, it really shocks you from time to time.

i think, that mix is, what makes fma really unique. if you live on the northpole for a year or two, you get used to the cold temperature. same with the sahara. you get used to the heat. but watching fma is often like traveling from the sahara to the northpole in five minutes.

dragonz20
2004-03-08, 15:53
i too was really shocked when said person was killed. at one time, it's really lighthearted, if not funny and from one moment to another it gets really serious, violent or scary and for me this is the reason, why i was higly disturbed when she died.

if some character in the anime/manga "berserk" would die, one would at most be sad, because he liked the character, but it isn't something unexpected from a series like berserk to see someone die.

i think, that fma disturbed everyone at that moment because nobody expected the series to be like that. there do happen worse thing in other animes, but because you really don't expect it from fma, it really shocks you from time to time.

i think, that mix is, what makes fma really unique. if you live on the northpole for a year or two, you get used to the cold temperature. same with the sahara. you get used to the heat. but watching fma is often like traveling from the sahara to the northpole in five minutes.

yeah i agree...

btw, did you all of you notice that they changed the ending scenes of that specific episode when that character (little girl) died?... I thought that was pretty cool. Like they were dedicating it to her... (lol... i am speaking as if she's a real person...)

Remington
2004-03-08, 17:03
ya, there are realy lots of contrasts in this anime. specially the very beginning was shocking for me. i had little information bout that anime and was expecting a nice opening, where the two elric kids are using some alchemie, transmuting some stuff and so. and then the atmosphere changed u here a deep scream, thunder and lightning, and suddenly there is only one child left with a missing leg and heavily bleeding while the other has turned to ashes O.o. "wtf" was my first thought ^^".

@dragonz20 noticed that too. it made me think bout "eds smile". in that ending he was almost crying while he had a square smile across his face, if u keep that in mind and then watch e.g. the end of the 2nd opening, it comes to mind that sometimes his smile maybe fake, and he's grinning while he actually wants to cry. hmhm a very profound anime afterall

ShadowLady
2004-03-08, 17:12
yeah i agree...

btw, did you all of you notice that they changed the ending scenes of that specific episode when that character (little girl) died?... I thought that was pretty cool. Like they were dedicating it to her... (lol... i am speaking as if she's a real person...)
Yeah i noticed that when nina died, although not right away because I was too much in shock at first, it was sad, although I did kinda expect it. She was so cute and sweet when she was alive and there was so much of a focus on her that all of a sudden I just said, she's gonna die just because I thought it was eerie to see so much of her. and I was right. they pulled that kind of stunt in buffy the vampire slayer all the time. just when you start to like someone they kill m off.

Mcdonalds
2004-03-08, 20:20
Yea, this anime changes a lot but now after watching so many episodes, i have become used to this change in atmosphere all the time and expect something twisted to happen each ep, although it still surprises me how they come up with that. I don't think that the anime is violent compared to other series that i have watched. I do think though that this anime hits on very sensitive subjects in science such as science will eventually turn bad possibly? (human cloning).

SketchyMcChips
2004-03-08, 20:48
The turn of pace from lightheartedness to violence can be a little unsettling at times. Although when you see blood at any point in a series I wouldn't be surprised if people started getting killed.

I'm going to compare it to another series out at the moment, Peacemaker Kurogane. This series has at least one episode that's 90% or more comedy and light heartedness, but the whole subject matter means its just a distraction from the violence.

To be honest I kind of expected FMA to be like this, especially after seeing the attempted transmutation on the brothers mother. Maybe it's just me but I don't particularly find any of it disturbing - maybe i'm an example of this desensitised genration...

Kiro
2004-03-08, 22:35
Maybe it's just me but I don't particularly find any of it disturbing - maybe i'm an example of this desensitised genration...
not really. after the "nina-incident" i got used to it too in some way. but unlike naruto or other "fight-animes" fma is really able to give me a nice shiver from time to time because of the dark stuff that's happening. i do like naruto, but i really doubt, that gara will be very frightening, when he transforms into that "something" in the next episode (should be ep.74).

Dragon Flame
2004-03-08, 22:48
shukkaku isnt scary, that "gaara thing" its gaara himself, hes really freaky int he manga.. lol u should see what he does to those two guys at the tournament, anyway back on topic, FMA adds the violence in a good way, its not out of place and unbefitting..

Kain
2004-03-09, 05:59
i too was really shocked when said person was killed. at one time, it's really lighthearted, if not funny and from one moment to another it gets really serious, violent or scary and for me this is the reason, why i was higly disturbed when she died.

hehehe, wuss :)
I LOVE the occasional violence, It keeps things interesting.....
But then again, It might just be me LOL

Joe Dalton
2004-03-09, 10:38
It is a verry deep anime mostly about human nature.
Especialy the episode you all are talking about. What made it sad was not that she died as adorable as she was you couldnt help but care about that char but the real impact was with the elric brothers.
When Edward cries there at the end and his tears get los in the rain thats what really got me.

Kiro
2004-03-09, 11:16
and that is, what i like about fma. it is violent at times, but it's going really deep. a little bit like berserk. berserk was full of gore and i didn't think, that the series would care so much about the characters, after i had seen the first two epsiodes. but it did.

other than fighting series like dragonball, fma does show the outcome of violence instead of trying to make it look cool. i think that is more educational, than cutting every scene, where you see a tiny blood drop. (they actually do this in german television when it comes to anime so i'm glad that most of the shows shown here suck and that i don't watch them anyway)

shukkaku isnt scary, that "gaara thing" its gaara himself, hes really freaky int he manga.. lol u should see what he does to those two guys at the tournament, anyway back on topic, FMA adds the violence in a good way, its not out of place and unbefitting..

if you mean that really really bad episode (which was drawn horrible and where nothing really happened) : i wasn't really excited/thrilled/scared/whatever, as gaara killed those two nonames. at that moment, the animation was just SO crappy, that i was more scared of the animation itself. naruto went really downhill after the lee/gaara fight for a while but the last three naruto epiodes were really great and i'm beginning to look forward to the new eps again now, like i did in the past.

meluckycharms
2004-03-09, 11:56
*Spoilers*
I like anime that surprises me. I was surprised by how the episode turned out. I kind of thought that it would be another sappy father loves daughter thing, but it turned out far more interesting. Was anyone else surprised by when Roy Mustang revealed his ultimate goal? That surprised me I thought he was going to be serious.

Kiro
2004-03-09, 17:57
*Spoilers*
I like anime that surprises me. I was surprised by how the episode turned out. I kind of thought that it would be another sappy father loves daughter thing, but it turned out far more interesting. Was anyone else surprised by when Roy Mustang revealed his ultimate goal? That surprised me I thought he was going to be serious.

i don't think that post had spoilers. :) IF you write something, that maybe a spoiler, then just use spoilertags. like spoilertext

then it will look like this

spoilertext

nak
2004-03-09, 21:26
i don't think that post had spoilers. :) IF you write something, that maybe a spoiler, then just use spoilertags. like spoilertext

then it will look like this

spoilertext
What makes this anime so diffrent is its attention to the pace of the tone throughout the entire series. The fact that it seems to always find the perfect balance of seriousness and lightheartedness makes it very unique. Many animes are complained to be either too serious or way too lighthearted. I think the ammount of violence is in key with how much humour is in the series. it is a rarity, at least in my opinion.

Dark_Sun
2004-03-09, 22:03
yeah it is..i knew that from the first episode..when i saw ed's leg in gore... x_X


btw...off topic but..i thought homonculous or however you spell it meant 'a very small human' LoL

Joe Dalton
2004-03-09, 23:52
naruto has gone downhill since ep 19 or so and yeah its been getting better the last few eps but thats besides the point :)
Berserk was a great anime but I think i like FMA better since its also terribly funny at times,
But neither is my number 1 fav anime :)

bLizz4rD
2004-03-10, 02:00
In my opinion, FMA is one of the rare animes that has managed to bring out the emotions of it's viewers! Which is totally amazing, considering that it's only anime, not real life actor/actresses in it.

The twist and unique flow of story, has kept many of us fans wondering and anticipating on how it'll turn out in the next episode, which i believe is the main reason how many of us has turned into instant fan of FMA.

FMA has a good mix of science (alchemy part), drama, comedy as well as violence. Totally unique, totally FMA. Not something that you can find in another anime.

All thumbs up for FMA. Good job!

I give my loyalty to you!

dragonz20
2004-03-10, 10:27
it made me think bout "eds smile". in that ending he was almost crying while he had a square smile across his face, if u keep that in mind and then watch e.g. the end of the 2nd opening, it comes to mind that sometimes his smile maybe fake, and he's grinning while he actually wants to cry. hmhm a very profound anime afterall

yeah i noticed that too. He has different smiles and he forced his smile for Nina... at least that's what I thought. It's a subtle change in the anime but it had a very profound effect for me too at least...

FMA is definitely a great anime. I am really feeling it and I am glad I took the time to download it and check it out. As for the comparisons between this and Naruto. Well I was hooked on Naruto for a little while but my hunger for it has diminished a lot. Cause is a combination of bad art, overuse of fillers (3+ mins of a character looking at the sky as the birds are chirping), and slow development of story. Then again, FMA has only reach 20-some episodes so we'll see if it continues at this high quality and pace. If so, we may as well declare this anime to be one of the best of all time.

Cammie
2004-03-10, 12:33
If one things for sure, its that FMA is a sleeper hit... its got a compelling storyline, plus some great scenes that are both funny and sometimes sad. Unfortunately, the characters don't tend to be as involving as they could be, but that seems to be changing as of the last episode I have watched (Episode 14), where Edward has made a significant decision that seems to have severely altered his character, if only temporarily. I'll be frank and say that FMA is possibly one of the best series I'm watching, and its doing a good job of replacing the now-finished Scrapped Princess. :D FMA is close enough to being good, but it seems unpolished in certain areas. Plus, though the storyline is moving, its moving in jumps and spurts, instead of the smooth ride it could easily be made into... yet as I said, anybody looking for a good replacement to Scrapped Princess, look no further. ;)

**I recommend this to hardcore anime fans with interest for a well-written storyline about alchemy, with violence and humour here and there.

Lee-pimp
2004-03-10, 23:05
its funny your the first person ive seen on this thread not like pray to FMA for me i like it its actually one of my favorite but im a person of lighter spirits i like animes like love hina, and one piece FMA is really good but for me it cant be the best simply because of how dark it gets at times. some one mentioned naruto and compared IMO naruto started out REALLY strong but faded along with the chuunin exam arc its just drawn out so damn long its making a come back now but the manga is really much better

Asakura_Y0h
2004-03-11, 03:44
i think the writer of this anime has some pretty clever and highly creative imagination as well as some pretty SICK ideas incorporated into whatever he's doing. Nina was an example.... it was cool at the same time morbid. I thought this was pretty disturbing .....

Tucker upside down and speaking and attached to some other animal... really twisted .... literally speaking even his body is twisted... thinking about it.... are his privates dangling on the animal's back???

uggh...

from_the_sand
2004-03-12, 22:56
i almost cred when i found out. actually no after ed finds the chimera's remains and is just crying saying "gomen....gomen...."



twas a lot sadder in the anime then the manga.....



:(

SketchyMcChips
2004-03-13, 10:38
Tucker upside down and speaking and attached to some other animal... really twisted .... literally speaking even his body is twisted... thinking about it.... are his privates dangling on the animal's back???


Lol!!! I never thought of that.

Thyrz
2004-03-13, 16:28
I've only seen up to ep 8 so I can't read the spoiler. What happened to the little kid was shocking!
Whoever said this was a comedy is a big phat liar; )

Who would compare this to Naruto!? This is entirely different, and FMA totally outclasses Naruto. I agree about it starting really strong, with the part where the little transvestite-nin and Zabuza died. From there on it went down pretty bad. Soon enough we'll be seeing "kamehameha no-jutsu!

nak
2004-03-13, 20:20
I've only seen up to ep 8 so I can't read the spoiler. What happened to the little kid was shocking!
Whoever said this was a comedy is a big phat liar; )

Who would compare this to Naruto!? This is entirely different, and FMA totally outclasses Naruto. I agree about it starting really strong, with the part where the little transvestite-nin and Zabuza died. From there on it went down pretty bad. Soon enough we'll be seeing "kamehameha no-jutsu!
I also agree with the Naruto. I dont think it outclasses it though, I just think its more developed in structure and is much more mature in content and issues WHILE adding suttle and big funny scenes. That and all of the characters are all serious and neat and also crazy at the same time. Ex: Col. Mustang!!!

dragonz20
2004-03-13, 21:30
I also agree with the Naruto. I dont think it outclasses it though, I just think its more developed in structure and is much more mature in content and issues WHILE adding suttle and big funny scenes. That and all of the characters are all serious and neat and also crazy at the same time. Ex: Col. Mustang!!!

No I think there is a distinct difference in terms of quality and it's been very apparent with Naruto.

Hajime No Ippo, Hikaru No Go, One Piece, Flame Alchemist (to name a few)... These all belong in my A+++ top tier list of great anime series. Hajime and Hikaru are done so they're rock solid and I still watching One Piece and Flame Alchemist but so far, I haven't been disappointed one single time. Even the filler episodes in One Piece and Flame Alchemist are good and entertaining. The same can't be said for Naruto. They overuse their fillers and drag the storyline to unbeareable lengths... Even early on in the series (fight against Zabuza) they used fillers and dragged fights ala Dragon Ball Z. I recall a few episodes when they used half of their time as recaps from the last episode. It was terrible... And the quality of the art has decline dramatically in the most recent episodes. I am up to around episode 60 in One Piece and the art has remained consistently great (it's a weird way they draw it.. kind of a throwback to old style anime) and I don't anticipate any dropoff in quality at all... Same goes for Flame Alchemist at episode 13-14...

Naruto is still good.. But it's no longer great. The only reason I am sticking to it is because I've followed it for this long so there's no point in me stopping. The manga is much better though. But just my opinion I guess...

nak
2004-03-13, 22:43
No I think there is a distinct difference in terms of quality and it's been very apparent with Naruto.

Hajime No Ippo, Hikaru No Go, One Piece, Flame Alchemist (to name a few)... These all belong in my A+++ top tier list of great anime series. Hajime and Hikaru are done so they're rock solid and I still watching One Piece and Flame Alchemist but so far, I haven't been disappointed one single time. Even the filler episodes in One Piece and Flame Alchemist are good and entertaining. The same can't be said for Naruto. They overuse their fillers and drag the storyline to unbeareable lengths... Even early on in the series (fight against Zabuza) they used fillers and dragged fights ala Dragon Ball Z. I recall a few episodes when they used half of their time as recaps from the last episode. It was terrible... And the quality of the art has decline dramatically in the most recent episodes. I am up to around episode 60 in One Piece and the art has remained consistently great (it's a weird way they draw it.. kind of a throwback to old style anime) and I don't anticipate any dropoff in quality at all... Same goes for Flame Alchemist at episode 13-14...

Naruto is still good.. But it's no longer great. The only reason I am sticking to it is because I've followed it for this long so there's no point in me stopping. The manga is much better though. But just my opinion I guess...
I think you misunderstood my post. I was agreeing to Thyrz and your opinion as well.

dragonz20
2004-03-13, 22:48
I think you misunderstood my post. I was agreeing to Thyrz and your opinion as well.


oro!... :twitch:

i must have completely misread... gomen gomen!!! :heh:

nak
2004-03-13, 23:29
oro!... :twitch:

i must have completely misread... gomen gomen!!! :heh:
lol no prob. Happens to everyone ^^;;

Thyrz
2004-03-14, 05:35
I also agree with the Naruto. I dont think it outclasses it though, I just think its more developed in structure and is much more mature in content and issues WHILE adding suttle and big funny scenes. That and all of the characters are all serious and neat and also crazy at the same time. Ex: Col. Mustang!!!

That's why I think it outclasses Naruto; ) Maybe I'm using the wrong word.

And dragonz20 I agree with what you said, fillers in Naruto suck.. that's another reason to dislike Naruto.
I don't know One Piece cuz I can't download it right now. My internet connection needs an upgrade, so downloading Naruto is just time waste right now. Only watching FMA now, all I can do; ) So I chose between them and picked FMA.

Joe Dalton
2004-03-14, 10:37
yeah nak you say it doesnt outclass it then you give the verry reasons why it does :)

Naruto was verry cool during first story line but the exam went downhill rapidly... though rock lee was a cool character its jsut not as involving and from time to time its drawn so badly it distracts from the storyline

nak
2004-03-14, 11:57
yeah nak you say it doesnt outclass it then you give the verry reasons why it does :)

Naruto was verry cool during first story line but the exam went downhill rapidly... though rock lee was a cool character its jsut not as involving and from time to time its drawn so badly it distracts from the storyline
I just dont feel right using that term, its as if saying its a better anime and I like both for diffrent reasons. I only feel like Naruto drags on so much since it has so many characters to keep up with when FMA is centered around only 2 for the most part of the show.

Thyrz
2004-03-14, 12:11
I just dont feel right using that term, its as if saying its a better anime and I like both for diffrent reasons. I only feel like Naruto drags on so much since it has so many characters to keep up with when FMA is centered around only 2 for the most part of the show.

FMA and Naruto are on different levels, is what you mean?; )

nak
2004-03-14, 12:15
FMA and Naruto are on different levels, is what you mean?; )
Yiz. ^_^ They both have class but have diffrent levels. :)

Thyrz
2004-03-14, 12:50
Yiz. ^_^ They both have class but have diffrent levels. :)

Ok I just like FMA's level more then.
Who else thinks FMA pwnz naruto?; )

Stofzuiger
2004-03-14, 14:43
Ok I just like FMA's level more then.
Who else thinks FMA pwnz naruto?; )

oe oe, me me!

*waves hand*

Thyrz
2004-03-14, 16:08
oe oe, me me!

*waves hand*

See, the dutch have taste :P

Rasengan
2004-03-14, 19:43
Ok I just like FMA's level more then.
Who else thinks FMA pwnz naruto?; )

*waves hand* Me too.

I don't think FMA is violent, it's level of voilence is perfect for the storyline. One has to experience what the Elric Kyoudai are going through to fully understand their pain. The manga is very lighthearted if anyone can't stand the voilence of the anime, there are alot of comedy in it.

I feel really sorry for Ed and Al after what happened with their transmutated mother and Nina, they sure had their share of hell, poor kids =(.

Joe Dalton
2004-03-15, 06:26
pffffft the dutch have no taste or we would have never had balkenende live this long


buuuuuuuuuuuut yes FMA pwns naruto

nak
2004-03-15, 16:02
*waves hand* Me too.

I don't think FMA is violent, it's level of voilence is perfect for the storyline. One has to experience what the Elric Kyoudai are going through to fully understand their pain. The manga is very lighthearted if anyone can't stand the voilence of the anime, there are alot of comedy in it.

I feel really sorry for Ed and Al after what happened with their transmutated mother and Nina, they sure had their share of hell, poor kids =(.
Yes I agree about the manga. It seemes to have more funny stuff excluded from the anime. Although the important stirring issues that are pretty disturbing still remain.

Thyrz
2004-03-15, 16:55
I don't think FMA is violent, it's level of voilence is perfect for the storyline. One has to experience what the Elric Kyoudai are going through to fully understand their pain.

Then it is violent, but not too violent:p.

I don't read mangas except for naruto so I wouldn't really know about that..


pffffft the dutch have no taste or we would have never had balkenende live this long
Not for long:heh:.
buuuuuuuuuuuut yes FMA pwns naruto
So you do agree!;)
Although the important stirring issues that are pretty disturbing still remain.
Without the disturbing stuff it wouldn't be FMA anymore;).

LinChoiSin
2004-03-15, 18:26
these days i tend to be tired of the shonen mangas/animes where the bad guys are never really bad and when the heroes are always too nice and where nothing really interesting happens and since there ain't too many seinen shows subbed i'm really glad to see a show like fma.The plot is great and if there's violence there's always a reason behind it,at least that's what i think

nak
2004-03-15, 19:26
Without the disturbing stuff it wouldn't be FMA anymore;).

Yiz, its like taking out all the foocked up stuff in Eva, without it shinji would just be really whiny..but thats okay because he would promptly answer to the back of Misato-sans hand! HA!

these days i tend to be tired of the shonen mangas/animes where the bad guys are never really bad and when the heroes are always too nice and where nothing really interesting happens and since there ain't too many seinen shows subbed i'm really glad to see a show like fma.The plot is great and if there's violence there's always a reason behind it,at least that's what i think

I agree. The bad guys are pretty bad ass. I heart lust!!!! ;_; ANd greed is kewl with his pimpim fuzzy fluff on his coat :love: :love:

Forklift
2004-03-20, 18:23
they pulled that kind of stunt in buffy the vampire slayer all the time. just when you start to like someone they kill m off.

Jenny Calendar, nuff said

all this is why I think I love FMA so far! It keeps you going from ep to ep and its like a dam cliffhanger. a few times I fell alseep watching it and woke up only to go right back at it ASAP

dreamless
2004-03-20, 18:54
If you want something violent, you should watch BERSERK :D

LinChoiSin
2004-03-20, 22:58
compared to berserk fma is like pokemon but i think that both shows are great.

Forklift
2004-03-21, 00:43
If you want something violent, you should watch BERSERK :D


A guy at work today told me to check out a movie called " Versus" I think , or "Vs". He watches some anime and said its the bloodiest thing he has ever seen, but he has never seen Ghost in the Shell either

aznndave
2004-03-21, 18:16
i agree.... the little girl part was scary and spooky even for a man (yeah right) like me