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Roots
2004-03-09, 01:43
Hi all. I'm looking to get addicted to a game with a great story and plot. So I was wondering if you guys could help me out. If I had to describe it in one word, I want that "epic" feel that you get when you are so absorbed in the story of a game that you forget you are playing it and you feel like you are actually in the game. I LOVE that feeling!

So please post any games you have played which you think have a great story/plot. Also please post which systems it is available on. Here is a list of some of the games I have played which I feel fit into what I am looking for:

1. FFVI (best example of an epic game) - SNES/PS
2. Chrono Trigger - SNES/PS
3. FFVII - PS/PC
4. FFIV - SNES/PS
5. FFVIII - PS/PC

(I'm not necessarily looking for an RPG, as long as it gives me that feeling thats all I'm looking for. )

Tenkoy
2004-03-09, 02:22
Xenogears.

That has one of the most interesting and complex plots I've ever seen in a video game.

Kklathan
2004-03-09, 12:59
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millinium (genesis)
Xenogears (ps1)
Xenosaga Episode 1(ps2)
Suikoden III (ps2)
Breath of Fire (SNES)
Final Fantasy III

This is all that comes to mind atm as far as epic storylines go. Give me a pm later on and ill see what else I can think up.

"Sky... blue sky...
What your eyes can see...
What your eyes cant see..."

Roots
2004-03-09, 13:08
I've played Xenogears, Xenosaga, and Breath of Fire. Those were good games, but I didn't get the epic feel from them. Lufia and Lufia II (SNES) were two other games that gave me that feeling.


I've been meaning for a long time to pick up Suikoden III, but I heard it was hard to find, and I haven't played the prequels so I was afraid of feeling lost. I might go try out Phantasy Star :) Thanks

ss_goku4
2004-03-09, 17:10
Final Fantasy's have some great stories indeed. VI is the best of them all. But I also love Skies of Arcadia (Dreamcast) and Skies of Arcadia Legends ( Gamcube). Its the same game, except th GC version is newer, smoother, and has more hours of play. Skies is just as epic as you can get. Fights on land, fights up in the skis, ship battles, super sweet supers, anime style graphics, and best of all, the story just rocks! It made me want to cry after I passed it knowing that it was over. (Sob):( : its around 40 hours long.

Grandia II is another awesome game that every RPGer should play. Its both on Dreamcast and PS2 although I heard that the Dreamcast version is better. Just about everything in this game is great! The battle system is the best of any RPG out there. Trust me!! And the voice acting is just the best when it comes to games. Its all great! :gameplay is about 40 hours also.

And if you liked the battle system alone, Grandia Xtreme is a must play. Its not great with the story, and the voice actors suck on this one, but the battle get intense. I absolutley love the very last fight ( which is about 115 hours into the game; thats not a typo, I said 115 hours) where you are up against a level. 200 monstrosity(Zanothlee) and only at this point you are your party of four is around level 100. This is soley for those who love the grandia battle sytem. : gameplay time for this game is around 115 hours and more.

these are just some.
I'll post more as soon as they come.

Kklathan
2004-03-09, 18:20
I have not played suikoden I or II before I picked up III. I had very little problems diving into the world entirely. I meen entirely. The story is an epic, (actually, epics)however you get to pick and choose which epic is played out. I picked up the game out of ennui and ended up beating it 3x (about 100 hours) before I was done. It is not all that hard to find around where I live, just 30bucks at any local gamestop. btw, phantasy star 4 is my favorate console game of all time. ;)
Its the only game that I leveled all my characters up to lvl 99 on.

Stuff to try:
Lunar: The Silver Star Story Complete (ps1)
Lunar II: Perfect Blue (ps1)

AG3
2004-03-09, 18:44
I've always been a huge fan of Chrono Trigger for the SNES. While it's a bit old now, it's one of those games that one simply shouldn't miss out on if one likes RPGs. I dare say it's one of the greatest games ever. IMO, of course.

Also, Tales of Phantasia for SNES was great (there's a PS1 version too, I haven't tried it).

Mr_Anonomis
2004-03-10, 18:33
Legend of Dragoon-PS is a game that i really liked (enought to play it 9 times...lol)
Dragon Warrior VII-PS...really good game, I felt like i was there the whole time, except for the pixelyness
Then the Zelda games are always good, you can get ocarina of time on gamecube, but windwaker isnt that great.

daliinn
2004-03-10, 21:34
ohh ohh, Parasite Eve. Very in depth plot. The second one wasn't that great though....

Also another game i absolutly loved was Sieken Densetsu 2 (secret of mana) for the SNES. great gameplay and storyline

Iori Branford
2004-03-10, 22:53
Deus Ex.
Thief 1 and 2.
The King of Fighters 97.

Lexander
2004-03-11, 00:41
for an rpg Septerra Core has an awsome story, you can get one for like 3 bucks at target, I think this game never got the props it deserves. It's not all that long either, check it out sometime you won't be disapointed.

Max Paye 1 and 2, were ok also, if you like the "detective tells you his story in a deep voice while solving a case" kinda feel.

dkellis
2004-03-11, 00:55
for an rpg Septerra Core has an awsome story, you can get one for like 3 bucks at target, I think this game never got the props it deserves. It's not all that long either, check it out sometime you won't be disapointed.

I dunno. Septerra Core had an interesting concept and great potential, but the game didn't really do anything with it. The gameplay was rather mediocre, and the actual storyline only touched lightly on the background of the game.

In any case, I'm partial to the Marathon series of FPS by Bungie (curently Bungie Software, after they got bought by Microsoft). The original Marathon set the stage, Marathon 2: Durandal (incidentally the only one of the three to be released on Windows) told a gripping story, and Marathon: Infinity was a great example of a non-linear storyline.

Close contenders are the System Shock games and Deus Ex. Although if you can play through Deus Ex and not cringe at the horrible voice acting, you're a better person than I.

Chrn0
2004-03-11, 01:15
Legend Of Dragoon - Nice plot,good game
Chrono Trigger - Good Plot,Good game

AG3
2004-03-11, 01:38
for an rpg Septerra Core has an awsome story, you can get one for like 3 bucks at target, I think this game never got the props it deserves.

I personally found the battle system to be very lacking. I liked the setting and what I saw of the story, but I never finished it because I got too tired of the battles.

Village Idiot
2004-03-11, 03:44
Funny how three bishoujo games made it onto the list

Kanon - One of the most emotional game I've ever played. The story is top notch, with the anime version only composing of a mere fraction of the game. The game is also much, much sadder than the anime.

Mizuiro - OMG, the anime did not give this game justice. Hiyori's storyline was butchered in the anime. Her story in the game is so, so, so sad. I cried so much :(

Air - There's a reason why this game was voted as the best game in Japan for two years in a row, and yes, it's a dating sim.

Zone of the Enders: Fist of Mars/2173 Testament - Hands down, best story for the GBA. The only other real contender is Super Robot Wars R. If you haven't played it yet, do yourself a favor and get it. Having a great storyline is one thing, but most games lack another important factor: Character Interaction. I think it was the only GBA game to ever make me cry.

Super Robot Wars Alpha - Imagine a strategy game that takes the characters/storyline of over 15 mecha series such as Getter Robo, Mazinger Z, Evangelion, Gundams, Macross, etc and combines them all together in the same universe to form and epic storyline. Best scene ever: reinacting End of Eva, and stopping it.

Xenogears - I don't think I need to explain why.

kakashi25
2004-03-11, 08:33
As few others have mentioned Suikoden III Is great and (Suikoden I and II ps1) even better have beat them over 10 times each great story and tons of options with characters, they are my favorite games.(The stories aren't related at all can play Suikoden III and understand it perfectly w/o playing others.)
Also another game for ps1 I really liked was Wild Arms <--- reminded me of Chrono trigger , And a new rpg for PS2 is a hate or love it game great story Disgaea Hour of Darkness and once you beat it can still continue to play and advance farther earn secrets etc. Last game i'll name is Breath of Fire III good story/fighting.

gohmifune
2004-03-11, 23:20
My all time favorite plot is Wild Arms 2, and Vagrant story is shaping up, though I'm not far. But WA2, is the most unique RPG I have ever played. I mean, you fight terrorism, how unique is that for a wild west/ fantasy epic.

Denen Hiryu
2004-03-12, 00:40
Let us not forget, the great

Silver Star Story Complete

and

Lunar 2, Eternal Blue,

ff3/6 was good. i rely enjoyed that 1.

Don't know about everyone else but im obsessed with Japanese history, im taking comparitive civilizations in school atm, it's my fav subject ;)

I rely liked onimusha 1/2

Kamui4356
2004-03-12, 01:12
Grandia II is another awesome game that every RPGer should play. Its both on Dreamcast and PS2 although I heard that the Dreamcast version is better. Just about everything in this game is great! The battle system is the best of any RPG out there. Trust me!! And the voice acting is just the best when it comes to games. Its all great! :gameplay is about 40 hours also.

And if you liked the battle system alone, Grandia Xtreme is a must play. Its not great with the story, and the voice actors suck on this one, but the battle get intense. I absolutley love the very last fight ( which is about 115 hours into the game; thats not a typo, I said 115 hours) where you are up against a level. 200 monstrosity(Zanothlee) and only at this point you are your party of four is around level 100. This is soley for those who love the grandia battle sytem. : gameplay time for this game is around 115 hours and more.
Another Grandia fan. :) Yes, grandia does have the best battle system of any RPG. Even though it's turn based, it often feels more like it's in real time. It's really too bad the story sucks in grandia 3, but grandia is the only rpg that I'd actually play for the battles. Usually they're a pain, but in the grandia series they're actually fun. I also recommend grandia 1 for psx. The story starts out average on disk 1, but gets good on the 2nd disk.
Funny how three bishoujo games made it onto the list

Kanon - One of the most emotional game I've ever played. The story is top notch, with the anime version only composing of a mere fraction of the game. The game is also much, much sadder than the anime.

Mizuiro - OMG, the anime did not give this game justice. Hiyori's storyline was butchered in the anime. Her story in the game is so, so, so sad. I cried so much :(

Air - There's a reason why this game was voted as the best game in Japan for two years in a row, and yes, it's a dating sim.

Zone of the Enders: Fist of Mars/2173 Testament - Hands down, best story for the GBA. The only other real contender is Super Robot Wars R. If you haven't played it yet, do yourself a favor and get it. Having a great storyline is one thing, but most games lack another important factor: Character Interaction. I think it was the only GBA game to ever make me cry.

Super Robot Wars Alpha - Imagine a strategy game that takes the characters/storyline of over 15 mecha series such as Getter Robo, Mazinger Z, Evangelion, Gundams, Macross, etc and combines them all together in the same universe to form and epic storyline. Best scene ever: reinacting End of Eva, and stopping it.

Xenogears - I don't think I need to explain why.
I wouldn't think it's funny at all that 3 bishojo games make it. Some have really great plots. It's really a shame more aren't released in english.
Super robot wars alpha sounds great. I think I'll see what I can do about getting it, which will probably be nothing unless it's for dreamcast, since that's the only system I have that can play import games.
And a new rpg for PS2 is a hate or love it game great story Disgaea Hour of Darkness and once you beat it can still continue to play and advance farther earn secrets etc.
Disgaea is great. I just beat it the other night. Now I need to beat it again so I can get the good ending. :) After that I'll try to beat the cave of trials and the alternate netherworld, but I'm not looking forward to leveling up to 2000+ :heh: It took me 110 hours to beat which is by far the longest time I've spent playing and my characters' levels were only high 70s, low 80s. Maybe if I transmigrate them a few times...
well to add to the thread, I'd have to say Star Ocean 2 for psx. The story isn't groundbreaking, however, the level of interaction with the characters is. You can make couples out of any characters you want through private actions. Of course it's harder to get some characters together than others, and if you want you can screw things up between them, and have them all alone at the end. Also you can make your own items from raw materials. This includes the ability to forge checks and bond certificates. :heh: It's a great game, and I highly recommend it to anyone with either a psx or ps2.

Slade
2004-03-12, 04:01
Best? I can't say Best because there are so many titles that are worthy to be up there with the best of em.

Kamui pointed out a couple of good ones...

Grandia 2 is responsible for making me miss my Calculus 2 midterm...(don't worry Grandia, I still love you). I played that game for 3 days around 12 hours each day. I just couldn't put it down... it was like "I'll just get to the next plot point and save..." 3 days later I beat the game and said to myself "Crap, I had a midterm this morning".

FF 6(3e) is my favorite RPG of all time because it's the first RPG I ever played... and what can I say, it was simply awesome.

The Wild Arms series is also another good one... WA 1 was great with its mixing of puzzles and good graphics(at the time... and a good musical score). For all the folks that hasn't played Wild Arms 1 yet it's getting released on the PS2 under the Title Wild Arms: Alter Code F(I believe). It's getting much better graphics and even more playable characters! Pick it up when it comes out.

Vagrant Story was a bit tedious at times but the way the characters interacted with each other... not to mention one of the best quotes from any videogame

"Shouldn't we wait for reinforcements?"

"Reinforcements? I am the reinforcements..."

:twitch: Bad-ass.

Star Ocean 2 for the PSX was a great game too... what other game lets you steal from your own party members when you're all taking a break(not to mention the 70+ endings) :heh:

Xenogears had a complex and intriging storyline which I thought was very well written... most people didn't like the 2nd disk but I thought it helped carry along the storyline faster and ultimately made the game better.

Xenosaga is also shaping up to be quite the series... I can't wait for the 2nd episode.

and last but not least

War of Genesis 3, and 3 part 2.

The storyline for these two games were simply amazing. Revelation after revelation in a manner that left me saying "holy crap..." when I finished the game... with a glimmer of tear as well(coming from me, that means alot).

You guys probably never played the game because it's not in english... it's a Korean PC game- I'm pretty sure you might've seen some of the artwork for it like this one

http://free.one.picturehost.co.uk/Wall_800x600%60_11.jpeg

well I better stop my ranting... too many games to list :uhoh:

Village Idiot
2004-03-12, 15:47
Has anyone played the 'Tales' series yet?

I loved Tales of Phantasia, Tales of Symphonia, and Tales of Eternia (I didn't like Tales of Destiny too much).

Arche & Collet is on my list for best female characters in the history of video games :)

Oh, btw, did anyone hear the news that there's a Tales of Symphonia anime in the works? Along with a Tales of Phantasia OVA coming out later this year?


Super robot wars alpha sounds great. I think I'll see what I can do about getting it, which will probably be nothing unless it's for dreamcast, since that's the only system I have that can play import games.

Don't get SRW Alpha for the Dreamcast. It's nowhere as good as the original version on the PSOne.

Evan
2004-03-13, 08:36
Wow,too many games to list... :) I'll list the most played in my collection...
Final fantasy VII,VIII,X and X-2
Suikoden 1,2 and 3
Tales of destiny I and II
Tales of phantasia and eternia
Grandia 2 and xtreme
RE 2,3 and code veronica
Parasite eve 2
and many more... :)

Slade xTekno
2004-03-14, 02:15
I though Final Fantasy 7 was awesome. Advent Children makes me want to play it again so I can brush up on the story...
Deus Ex was also cool. Haven't played 2 yet because my Video Card stinks...

Tommy
2004-03-14, 04:02
As for FF series goes

FF6 best story period.
FF 7 very good.
and FF4 also very good.
The rest were good but didn't leave near the impression those 3 did.

Crono trigger was awesome and so was Cross.

Xenogears is simply just too F@#king awesome, I love it.
Xenosaga I like a lot as well.

The suikoden series is good.

Metal Gear Solid definitly made its mark.

Arc the lad 1 and 2 tie together so wonderfully and 2 is especially awesome.

If there could be only one pick though it goes to FF6.

Village Idiot
2004-03-14, 14:41
FF6 was definitely a unique experience for me. An RPG that has no main characters.

SunDog
2004-03-15, 00:20
I really don't think the story to ff6 was great at all and the game itself was nowhere near as good as people are always saying IMO. Some games that have really good stories are FF7, Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. But the best story in a videogame i've ever played is by far Xenogears. The story is so complex and a good mix of fantasy and scifi. I found myself stunned so many times in that game.

Village Idiot
2004-03-15, 01:19
Definitely, among RPGs, Xenogears had the most complex and best story I've ever seen, and I've played tons of RPGs.

Anyone played Phantasy Star IV? I loved that game, especially the characters, Rune, Demi, and Rika :)

Tommy
2004-03-16, 03:37
Definitely, among RPGs, Xenogears had the most complex and best story I've ever seen, and I've played tons of RPGs.

Anyone played Phantasy Star IV? I loved that game, especially the characters, Rune, Demi, and Rika :)

Phatasy star IV is so fucking good. I got a genesis for that and shining force 2.
I remember when they were making Phantasy Star Online how pissed I was because it wasn't going to be like the other ones. I still really think they should make another one like IV.

Another memorable experince I have is with playing FF5 I kept telling myself " I can't believe the last boss is named X-Death". Fucking X-Death!!!! I still can't believe that square gave the last boss such a crappy fucking name. And this was after FF4 ( a fantastic game story and gameplay wise) so they have no excuse.

TheXev
2004-03-16, 11:08
Tales of Phantasia
Valkyrie Profile (<- Highly recommend if you can find a copy)
Final Fantasy VI
Grandia 1 & 2 (Xtreme blows)
Tsukihime (not an RPG though :P)

Kanon - One of the most emotional game I've ever played. The story is top notch, with the anime version only composing of a mere fraction of the game. The game is also much, much sadder than the anime.

I cried so hard at the end of playing this.

Super Robot Wars Alpha - Imagine a strategy game that takes the characters/storyline of over 15 mecha series such as Getter Robo, Mazinger Z, Evangelion, Gundams, Macross, etc and combines them all together in the same universe to form and epic storyline. Best scene ever: reinacting End of Eva, and stopping it.

My translation group is working on an English patch for this game, but I have yet to play it myself :(

Another Grandia fan. Yes, grandia does have the best battle system of any RPG. Even though it's turn based, it often feels more like it's in real time. It's really too bad the story sucks in grandia 3, but grandia is the only rpg that I'd actually play for the battles. Usually they're a pain, but in the grandia series they're actually fun. I also recommend grandia 1 for psx. The story starts out average on disk 1, but gets good on the 2nd disk.

Technically Grandia Xtreme isn’t’ Grandia 3, it was a quick Grandia game made to basically celebrate Enix buying out Game Arts. I’d expect to see a real Grandia 3 on some next generation console.

Grandia 2 is responsible for making me miss my Calculus 2 midterm...(don't worry Grandia, I still love you). I played that game for 3 days around 12 hours each day. I just couldn't put it down... it was like "I'll just get to the next plot point and save..." 3 days later I beat the game and said to myself "Crap, I had a midterm this morning".

Damn, I thought I was the only one who did this! roflmao Once I got this game, I played it non stop in 3 days. Luckily this happened just before I got a job for that summer.

Has anyone played the 'Tales' series yet?

I loved Tales of Phantasia, Tales of Symphonia, and Tales of Eternia (I didn't like Tales of Destiny too much).

Its to bad none of the games measure up to the original. Tales of Phantasia on PSX is like what StarWars Special Edition was to StarWars (except ToP PSX actually has worse sound music wise).

I look forward to the American release of ToS this year.

The Korean RPG by Gravity Arcturus is also very cool, but it’s a real pisser the official English release was canceled. Gravity later went on to make Ragnarok Online.

By far, Tales of Phantasia is my favorite RPG, even if I loved the system in Grandia games. The characters combined with the plot were really moving to me. Its to bad Namco is a bunch of dip weeds and most of the original Tales of Phantasia team left to join Enix (later to become Tri-Ace and make Star Ocean, Valkyrie Profile, and many more)

Valkyrie Profile is a game I’m playing through right now (I’m nearly at the end of disc 1). This is another hard game to put down because the plot is so engaging and the system is so unique (seems similar to Xenogears, but not). If you can find a copy of this rare gem, I’d suggest you not hesitate to pay any amount of money for it, as it’s a very valuable game as far as RPG’s go. Its stupid Enix didn’t make another printing of this game, as it’s far more refined then Star Ocean 2, and probably has the best English VA job outside of Grandia 2.

Xenogears is another RPG I have yet to make time for :(

Village Idiot
2004-03-16, 12:23
Agreed, Valkryie Profile was a great game. The storyline (if you follow the best ending path) was very well done as well.

Plus you gotta love an RPG that gave you hundreds of thousands of hp :)

Has anyone heard about the Tales of Symphonia anime series in the works?

The Tales series has the one thing that many RPGs lack: Character Interaction.

Chotto_Matte
2004-06-19, 18:28
Metal Gear Solid 2 :heh: .... At the end, omg! You get so absorbed in it that you totally forget it's a game. And all those other hours of movies :bow:!
But i'm sure all of you guys want to kill me for saying that :sad:
I also actually like the mainplot in Morrowind...

Tron Bonne
2004-06-19, 18:43
Suikoden series
Wild ARMs 1
Lunar series, Lunar:SSSC being my favorite.
Shining Force CD and Shining Force 3 Complete
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VI
Star Wars:KoTOR

dreamless
2004-06-19, 19:51
Best overall plot/story belongs to Planescape Torment. It's deep, philosophical, personal, no "beat the evil and save the world" stuff, but focusing on internal conflicts and struggle for self-salvation.

best plot/story that dares to be "different" is Wild Arms 2, you don't see another game where the main villain actually successfully saved the world by killing many innocent people.

best side-story belongs to Xenogears. The main story of the 10000 year long struggle against "God" is just average, but the side story of the internal struggles between Fei's multiple personalities is absolutely fantastic.

best character-drive story/plot is Final Fantasy 6, each character got wonderful stories and great personality development.

best story utilizing time-travel concept is ChronoTrigger, I generally don't like time travel stories since they are cliche, but ChronoTrigger managed to get the time travel very well implemented and really works wonders.

Roots
2004-06-19, 20:05
best side-story belongs to Xenogears. The main story of the 10000 year long struggle against "God" is just average, but the side story of the internal struggles between Fei's multiple personalities is absolutely fantastic.

best character-drive story/plot is Final Fantasy 6, each character got wonderful stories and great personality development.

best story utilizing time-travel concept is ChronoTrigger, I generally don't like time travel stories since they are cliche, but ChronoTrigger managed to get the time travel very well implemented and really works wonders.

I agree with everything you said here. The other 2 games I never played so I can't comment. I hope that the game I'm making can become worthy enough to be on this list :heh: Yeah I know, I set my hopes too high :sad: But I am trying to write the story as best as I possibly can (story link) (http://www.allacrost.org/index.php?page=Story)

ChibiDusk
2004-06-19, 21:57
Silent Hill 1: playstation
Silent Hill 3: Playstation 2, Computer
<no need to play sh2 for the plot to be very effective since its not connected with them at all>

Final Fantasy X: playstation 2
Final fantasy X-2: playsation 2
<the ending closure is worth it>

Thousand Arms [not related to wild arms at all]: playsation 1
<cant find it anywhere :'( such a good game, with a dating sim part as well :D>

Kingdom Hearts: playsation 2

and I second the Lunar series, just that comment makes me want to play them again :) (Lunar: silver star story, Lunar: Eternal Blue? both for playstation 1)

LOL, and just for fun:
paper mario: n64
<i loved it, dunno why but I did!>

Tron Bonne
2004-06-19, 22:37
Has a group ever translated well the Lunar:Magic School game for the Saturn? I have only had ruff translations for that game.

Guts
2004-06-19, 23:03
Xenogears.

That has one of the most interesting and complex plots I've ever seen in a video game.

So, true. That games the deep end of the swimming pool. Play Xenosaga if you did'nt get enough of it.

Breath of fire 2, mighty addictive, and pretty fun. I like the plot and who turns out to be the "real" bad guy. One of the greatest games i've played on snes.

Seiken densetsu 3, or secret of mana 2. This game is great, its just that. Multiple storys & endings. Colorful characters, and great battle system.

I loved Tales of Phantasia, Tales of Symphonia, and Tales of Eternia (I didn't like Tales of Destiny too much).

I play tales of eternia still. Or "tales of destiny 2" on ps1, Tales of destiny reeks tho thats correct.

Sugetsu
2004-06-20, 01:33
Let us not forget about some 3d games, such as Max Payne, Half life, Elder of scroll 3 Morrowind, System Shock 2 (The best FPS ever :D ) Star Craft (Best Strategy game ever :D ) Warcraft 2, 3, Diablo 1 & 2 ... mmm blizzar is just awesome at inventing stories :)

All of these games have an excellent story lines that make you stay in front of your PC for hours and hours :)

EvoSpace
2004-06-20, 03:30
Yay, it's great to know some people have the same taste as me.

Valkyrie Profile
Even though it's not your traditional type RPG, it's still my No.1 RPG. I haven't seen any RPG characters deeper, and a RPG battle system more fun. Try to get the Japanese one if you're able to; it's one of those games where the English dubbing isn't as good.

FFV
All other Squaresoft games are good too, but if I have to choose one, it's this. An epic of epics.

Wild Arms 2, Tales of Phantasia, Grandia 2, Lunar EB, Suikoden II
My favorites out of the classic RPGs. I thought the main producer of Tales of Phantasia left Namco after he made ToP and went to Enix to make Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile. That's why the other Tales games felt kind of different...

dreamless
2004-06-20, 03:31
I've played System Shock 2 for 9 times already! it's the best FPS/RPG hybrid to date IMO, and each time it's a different experience as I take a different profession/specialization. However judging from a pure story/plot perspective, it has a great story but not the best or deepest. A lot of PC games have a very balanced story and gameplay combination which makes you play them again and again, but Asian RPGs have the edge when it comes to just story/plot department.

Oh, and I think both Rhapsody of Zephyr and Arcturus The Curse and Loss of Divinity, two Korean PC RPGs, have truely wonderful stories. ;)

Am I the only one here who has played Planescape Torment? :p

Ending
2004-06-20, 08:09
Beside the already mentioned, Baldur's Gate 2 and Thief 2 have good stories too -enjoyed playing those. :)

AG3
2004-06-20, 08:52
Am I the only one here who has played Planescape Torment? :p

Nope, though I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I never finished it. I wouldn't even have tried it if it weren't for Baldur's Gate II being bundled with my computer back in 2002.

I don't know why I stopped playing it in the middle. I think I got stuck somewhere, not long after meeting the succubus woman who's name escapes me, but I can't really rememeber. Hmmm... maybe I should try playing it again.

The game was good, but I think I prefer Baldur's Gate 2. Maybe because BG2 was the first game of its kind I played since the old D&D game "Pools of Darkness", back in the 386 SX 25MHz days, or maybe because all the mods for it makes the replay value higher.

... You know, I think I'm gonna play Planescape: Torment again. I still have my savegames (from August 2003), and I shouldn't leave such a story half-finished :)

Roots
2004-06-20, 14:59
I've never been a fan of PC RPGs. I've played Diablo and Diablo 2, but that's about it. And even those two games I don't find very exciting, because all you do is point and click, point and click, point and click. I do agree that the story is good, but I don't necessarily like the way its told. I'm sure other people can appreciate it for its story-tellings though, but its just not my style.


As for other PC RPGs, my little brother plays some like uhh NeverWinter Nights and Morrowwind and stuff, but everytime I look at it it just seems so....so tedious and boring. I watched him for 10 minutes once and all he was doing was banging on a rock with a hammer trying to mine ore. I was like "This is FUN??? :confused:" I just think there are too many useless/tedious things in these types of games for me to enjoy them as much as I like to. Maybe I should give one a try, but I'm not exactly jumping out of my suit to do so.

Ending
2004-06-20, 15:09
Morrowing is just "banging the rock" -don't make stereotypes from the base of one game. ;)