Hardest video game you ever played!

[ff7799]

Whats the hardest video game you have ever played. For me it would probably have to be megaman zero( this game is by far one of the hardest ever made.

[nak]

Galerians:Ash...ugh it took me forever x_x

[Iron Monkey]

Battletoads for the NES, and coming in a close second, Ninja Gaiden 2, also for the NES. The games these days are nothing compared to the older ones, were most don't have continues.

[Dark Zero]

Whats the hardest video game you have ever played. For me it would probably have to be megaman zero( this game is by far one of the hardest ever made.


AHAHAHHHAAHAAHAHAAHAH sorry, but your suckiness astonds me in that game. Game was too easy for my blood.

And the first Ninja gaiden was the hardest of the 3, IMO. One of the hardest games I played was for NES, 'cobra triangle'.

[nojevo]

Id say shooter are the hardest types of games. Ikaruga is on my list as one of the hardest games.

[Dark Zero]

Id say shooter are the hardest types of games. Ikaruga is on my list as one of the hardest games.

I have to agree with that, if you refering to 'arcade' shooters......those damn things are coin hungry -_-

[Superchop]

Battletoads for the NES, and coming in a close second, Ninja Gaiden 2, also for the NES. The games these days are nothing compared to the older ones, were most don't have continues.

Ninja Gaiden 2 had unlimited continues ;) and i think the first was a lot harder...and part 3 was a cheap and easier to beat clone of part 2 -_-

As for my hardest game...probably Cobra Triange for the good ol NES...that game sure tested my patience...especially the destroy the mines....i hated those goddamn boats -_-

and Iron Monkey i agree with you that games nowadays are NOTHING compared to the games of the 8 bit monster

ff7799 - megaman zero? the hardest game? sorry but older megaman games were lots harder...and the old nes games were near impossible to beat...you would need to play hours on end just to get to a decent point...and then you would need to shut off the nes cause you playing to long just to have to do everything over day after day until you finally beat the game

[TronDD]

Double Dragon 3. Holy crap do I get my assed kicked in that game. I think I made it past the second screen once. Screen, not level. :) Every once in a while I hook up the NES and try again. 1 minute 30 seconds later, I'm dead and back to Double Dragon 2. :)

[<xellos>]

well, the games i played the most are the Final Fantasy games, and with that said, i have to agree that the old nes games are much harder, FF1 was the hardest i think, plus if you think about it, they didnt real have a high supply of Player's Guides back then either

[Superchop]

they didnt real have a high supply of Player's Guides back then either

All the better if you ask me ^_^ you would have to use your skills and wits to pass the game instead of depending on a book that tells you what to do and where to go...it kinda spoils the gaming experience...but if i say i never used on i'd be a hypocrite....although i keep myself from using it until i'm really stumped

[Roots]

The 7th Saga, a RPG for the SNES. It was kind of fun, until about ohh 5 hours into the game where it was IMPOSSIBLE to win any boss battles. I wish the game wasn't so incredibly difficult because it was kind of interesting.

[aahhsin]

The 7th Saga, a RPG for the SNES. It was kind of fun, until about ohh 5 hours into the game where it was IMPOSSIBLE to win any boss battles. I wish the game wasn't so incredibly difficult because it was kind of interesting.

Zelda II : The Adventures of Link (God I hate this game. I never know what to do, and your fucking sword is so short you can't hit anything.) this is the game with the golden case in NES.

Yea double Dragon is hard too. especially the one where you got only 1 life, and 4 different characters or something.

[Roots]

Zelda II : The Adventures of Link (God I hate this game. I never know what to do, and your fucking sword is so short you can't hit anything.) this is the game with the golden case in NES.

Yea double Dragon is hard too. especially the one where you got only 1 life, and 4 different characters or something.

Yeah Zelda II was rough. I remember when I was in.....I think I was in 3rd grade. I had a baby sitter over one night and I was fighting my way through the desert palace. I actually got pretty far in the game before I gave up. I finally beat it a couple years ago with the aid of an emulator. Man, that final boss was tough!

[Village Idiot]

Ninja Gaiden 1-3
Battletoads (especially in multiplayer. Usually me and my friends would do great, until an 'accident' happens, we'd argue, then beat each other senseless. That or we use up all our lives on Stage 4 throwing snowballs at each other XD)
The 7th Saga - One of the, if not the hardest RPG ever created.
Final Fantasy 3 Jpn (NES game. The most hardest FF game I've ever played)
Double Dragon 1-3 (I've only beaten DD1, and because of a fluke)
Shadow of the Ninja - Slightly easier than Ninja Gaiden, though it's still hard as hell

[Mr_Anonomis]

i would have to say dragon warrior VII, but not because the puzzles were difficult or the battles were hard, but just because i had to start all over again alot to make sure i found all the tile things to get to other worlds, it sucked.

[diabolistic]

anyone play a sim game called "Afterlife?"
no matter what i did, the 4 horsemen of apocalypse would destroy my universe.. a retardedly hard game.

[Babak]

. For me it would probably have to be megaman zero( this game is by far one of the hardest ever made.

:twitch:

Anyways, the hardest game ever would be Forbidden Siren (www.forbidden-siren.com) (also known as Siren).
Damn, I've spend hours looking for an item.

[ff7799]

ff7799 - megaman zero? the hardest game? sorry but older megaman games were lots harder...and the old nes games were near impossible to beat...you would need to play hours on end just to get to a decent point...and then you would need to shut off the nes cause you playing to long just to have to do everything over day after day until you finally beat the game
You are totally mean.

[rEkKaShInObI]

Chrono Trigger.

[Dark Zero]

You are totally mean.


I was meanier if you didn't notice :p Just making it worse now ^_^

[AG3]

anyone play a sim game called "Afterlife?"
no matter what i did, the 4 horsemen of apocalypse would destroy my universe.. a retardedly hard game.

Yeah, I remember that one. Difficult economic model, but kinda fun for a while. Those advisors had some funny comments at times, and the descriptions for Hell's punishments made me grin evilly :heh:

I think that games in general just get easier and shorter. *grampa's voice* When I was young, we didn't have no save feature or passwords, we had to finish the games in one sitting!


And blindfolded in a straightjacket, furiously using our feet to turn the cranks powering the generator to the game (we didn't have TVs) blah blah blah... :p


I can't remember which game I found the most difficult, though. Journey to Silius (NES), Green Beret (Rush 'n Attack? C64/NES), Turtles 1 (C64/NES), Metal Gear 1 (NES), Ghosts 'n Goblins (NES, this one was REAL hard!). These are the games that at the top of my head I can remember being hard.

I think Ghosts 'n Goblins (called Ghouls n' Ghosts on the SNES?) is the single hardest game I've ever encountered in my life. And you even had to beat it TWICE in a row in order to get the real ending. Or was it more? I think I rarely got past the first or second level. The SNES version was easier, but the old NES version was hard enough to make you wanna grind that little grey cartridge into dust.

[wnkryo]

It was that damn contra game, thank god for the old cheat code that gave infinite lives o.O

[kj1980]

There maybe some differences on difficulty and game titles for your NES versus my Famicom systems.

First thing to ask before I say my suggestions:

1. Was "Super Mario 2" ever released for your NES? I assume your version was the one which you choose either Mario, Luigi, Peach Princess and Kinopio each level and the last boss was this big ugly frog. Over here, it was a different game called "Yume Koujo Doki Doki Panic" and had nothing to do with SMB characters.

http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/disk_system/page_2/yumekoujyo.gif
http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/disk_system/page_2/yumekoujyo_.gif

Our "Super Mario 2" was something like the first Super Mario on drugs.

http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/disk_system/page_2/super_mario2.gif
http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/disk_system/page_2/super_mario2_.gif


2. What is "Ninja Gaiden?" Is the main character some ninja names "Ryu Hayabusa?" If so, then I will understand its difficulty. The original title here was "Ninja Ryuukenden." Am i the only one who hated this jump?

3. One quick verification needed: In 2002, Konami released a game for GBA that previously had the series title "Seimajou Dracula." If my prediction are correct, then that would mean in the States, "Seimajou Dracula" was released under the series title "Castlevania." I say this because Konami issued a statement before selling this game to Japanese consumers that "we will change the series title 'Seimajo Dracula' to the internationally accepted name 'Castlevania.' " If so, then I would like to add the several first "Seimajo Dracula" series to difficult games. On a side note, this game was for the Famicom Disk System over here.

http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/disk_system/page_1/draqura1.gif
http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/disk_system/page_1/draqura1_.gif

Now here are some titles that were very fun, difficult, and interesting to play. Unfortunately, I do not know their English titles:

Hanjuku Hero (Square)
Bahamut Lagoon (Square)
Appletown Monogatari (Square)
Soukaigi (Square)
Final Fantasy I, II, III (Square)
Druaga no Tou (NAMCO)
Dragon Quest I,II,III,IV (ENIX)
Ice Climber (Nintendo)
Konami WaiWai World (Konami)
Elevator Action (TAITO)
Solomon no Kagi (TECMO)
Y's I, II (Nippon Falcom)
Lode Runner (Hudson Soft)
Momotaro Densetsu/Dentetsu series (Hudson Soft)

Makaimura (CAPCOM) - I remember playing this game so many times!!!
http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/famicom/page_2/makai_mura.gif
http://www.tomato.sakura.ne.jp/~y-arena/treasure/famicom/page_2/makai_mura_.gif

[Superchop]

2. What is "Ninja Gaiden?" Is the main character some ninja names "Ryu Hayabusa?" If so, then I will understand its difficulty. The original title here was "Ninja Ryuukenden."

Yes that's it ^_^ the first was the hardest (still haven't beat it) the 2nd the second hardest (took me forever to reach the final level..then just as long to kill the bosses, luckily the game had infinite continues) then there was the 3rd -_- although i liked it...the game wasn't as fun as the 2nd...and the final boss was just a copy of the final boss in the 2nd one

[AG3]

There maybe some differences on difficulty and game titles for your NES versus my Famicom systems.

First thing to ask before I say my suggestions:

1. Was "Super Mario 2" ever released for your NES? I assume your version was the one which you choose either Mario, Luigi, Peach Princess and Kinopio each level and the last boss was this big ugly frog. Over here, it was a different game called "Yume Koujo Doki Doki Panic" and had nothing to do with SMB characters.

No, but it was included in Super Mario Allstars for the SNES later on.


2. What is "Ninja Gaiden?" Is the main character some ninja names "Ryu Hayabusa?" If so, then I will understand its difficulty. The original title here was "Ninja Ryuukenden."

Yup, that's Ninja Gaiden. It's hard, I agree, though I mostly played Ninja Gaiden 2.


Now here are some titles that were very fun, difficult, and interesting to play. Unfortunately, I do not know their English titles:


Bahamut Lagoon (Square)
Final Fantasy I, II, III (Square)
Ice Climber (Nintendo)
Solomon no Kagi (TECMO)
Lode Runner (Hudson Soft)

Bahamut Lagoon is available as a translation if you have the SNES ROM and use an emulator. Good game, but I was unable to complete it without cheating, sadly.

Ice Climber was the first NES game I ever played, even before Super Mario Bros 1.

Solomon no Kagi is probably Solomon's Key, I've never played it.

Lode Runner was called the same here, never played that one either.

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

Einhander on Hard. That thing's damned near impossible.

[Iori Branford]

Samurai Shodown 3. Expect to get raped even on easiest difficulty.

[xxziggybitsxx]

Chrono Trigger.

Ummmm no.. what r u smoking.. That was the best game of all time.. but it was eas and short. ^_^


Umm for me the hardest game that i have ever played would have to be Ikaruga for thr gamecube...Man it takes alot of talent to get high score in that game... Fast reflexes are needed to.. :)

[Sensei]

Huh !? Whoever said Chrono Trigger, go make some lvls O_o...

Mainly I'd say any game on the NES is damned tough, since you had to do it in one sitting.
Tough:
Ninja Turtles 1-2-3... we tried it on emulator it tooks us really long to get to the end... I remember beeing good when I was young .. weird.
I never played Mega Mans, until I heard about it when I was like 17, so I got an Emulator and the original game and... didn'T even beat a lvl.. I do have videos of some people beating it in 20 Minutes, pretty amazing

Do you remember FF2 Japanese ? You can find it on FFOrigins now, the first fight are 4 Horsemen ambushing you, well I found a video claiming the guy managed to beat them. I just can't play the damn thing, Linky --> http://www.zophar.net/NESticle/nsm/ Try your luck if you want, you need the Nesticle Emulator. Tell me how you did it if you managed it.

I still love you NES *huggles her NES*

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

KJ1980: Yeah, over here, we got Super Mario Bros. 2. That was really weird they way they just took Doki Doki Panic and made it into a Mario game. It was totally unlike any Mario game which made it kind of confusing.

Soukaigi...I thought I was the only one who had a copy of that game. But I guess you're in Japan so that explains why you have it. I liked the girl with the bow. Unfortunately, I could never figure out where to go at a certain point...the only Japanese I could read at that point in time was "Load", "Save" and the numbers telling me how many crystals I had left to collect.

Did you ever play Internal Section?

[kj1980]

Did you ever play Internal Section?

I've heard of it...wasn't that for the Playstation? I think the actual title was "IZ Internal Section." Wasn't that some kind of polygon shooting game?

[ShadowX114]

Contra and The House of The Dead 2 were really hard for me. I never finished them (Except House of the dead 2 with the GameShark but that dosn't count).
I just started playing Ninja Gaiden 2 (because I loved Ninja Gaiden 4 ^^) and its really hard. I'm in the 3rd stage and I hate this damn storm that keep moving me. Luckly im playing it as a rom so I can save whever I want ^_^
As for Megaman X , I made it to the final boss with a big difficulty(maybe because I was only 8-9 years old??? ) but I never beat him.

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

I've heard of it...wasn't that for the Playstation? I think the actual title was "IZ Internal Section." Wasn't that some kind of polygon shooting game?

No, the actual title is just "Internal Section". The "IZ" on the cover is just a bunch of dots that represent the title's abbreviation, and the z is a "cool looking" backwards S. It was a polygonal shooting game for the Playstation, kind of like Tempest but you were supposed to be hacking into a network.

You transformed shapes and modes of fire based on the Chinese Zodiac signs. It was simple, but I kind of thought it was cool.

[Tommy]

Yeah the old nintendo games were without a doubt the toughest. Their was no convienent save or continue points in a lot of games, so like the other guy said you had to beat them in one sitting.

[thegreatjason]

I would agree with a few others, Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were pretty challenging on the ol' NES.

As for Solomon's Key, that game was too hard for my 8 year old brain at the time, i'm sure I could take it out, dust it off and brutally rape it now.

Even with those games, they weren't nearly as hard as Double Dragon 3, I could beat 1 and 2 with a little luck, but when it came to 3 it was a different story alltogether, I could get to the first boss and from there I had no chance.

Castlevania was also very challenging, so was Mike Tyson's Punch Out the first few times through, although once you figured out what they were going to do it was a cake walk.

[Strider_Lee]

Yea, I'd have to agress that the NES (or Famicom) games were some of the most difficult games ever. I remember beating a lot of the games, but the original "Batman" (the one based on the first movie directed by Tim Burton) had to have been the hardest one for me.

[Kklathan]

Mega Man, the first one for NES. I was a wee bit smaller then I am now when that came out but I never ended up beating it. I picked up a rom of it a few months ago and I still have not beaten it. Ah well. Btw, is it possible to beat duck hunt? :heh: I have wasted soooooo many hours of my life on that game its not even funny.

...ye shall be as gods....

[AG3]

Btw, is it possible to beat duck hunt? :heh: I have wasted soooooo many hours of my life on that game its not even funny.

Nope. You get to level 99 (duck on speed and acid), then it rolls over to level 0 (which is slow), then level 1 again. You keep your score though, I think I had something like 750,000 points after going through all 99 levels. When I found out it all started over again, I just dropped the zapper and gave up. Never played it again :heh:

[anime-otaku]

Hardest game (in the world) ?

Radio Zonde, go on google and search for it on the net. It's a freeware shooting game. I myself am a veteran airplane shooter, I beat Blazing Star on Arcade mode with ZERO life lost, but playing radio Zonde, I can't even beat the first stage without the invinciblity turned on.

[SimplyEd]

Well, up until today i beat every rpg i ever bought, but i have to say that Saga Frontier 2's last boss-fight was da shit!!. I had to start all over because of insufficient character attributes...the hell!

[Mr. Bushido]

i think the nes games were the hardest ever.

i dont think its hard, but i found the rpg tactics to be confusing. the stats and skills are easy enough, but the jobs/class and how to get there and where to go was always kinda confusing to me. (i never played much tho)
tactic games like Advance Wars (GBA) is fun, simple, and has a wide range of diffculty.


hmmm this is wat i heard, but im not 100% sure.

nes games were made and sold regardless of whether the creators could beat it or not.

the newer systems has a new rule: if the creator cant beat it, than the game doesnt go out in the market.

is this true??

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

Totally untrue.

By the creator, who exactly are you talking about? The publisher? Of course they have to beat every game...that's what the QA testers do...but none of the programmers sit there playing the game...that's not the way it works.

[Mr. Bushido]

Totally untrue.

By the creator, who exactly are you talking about? The publisher? Of course they have to beat every game...that's what the QA testers do...but none of the programmers sit there playing the game...that's not the way it works.

i just heard "creator"
i was wondering if that meant the entire team, the programmers, the head, or wat not.

[orochidp]

Platoon for NES.

Were there signs of enemies in bushes, or do you shoot every one? I found Platoon to be almost impossible.

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

i just heard "creator"
i was wondering if that meant the entire team, the programmers, the head, or wat not.

Well, the QA department has to at least. Otherwise the game isn't tested...but that's not a requirement...it's just common sense...and they've had to finish the games from the very beginning. It's doubtful that anyone about QA ever touches the game.

[Mellow]

Tales of Destiny 2/Tales of Eternia

Killing Sekundes...on Hard=Never done XD

That guy was bery fast and had killer spells you either had to have insane levels or mad skills.

SaGa Frontier

One of Riki's ring quests. Where you have to fight Virgil but the only way to beat him is by getting combos higher than level 2 and you can't use the same combo again and if you take too long he starts to butcher your party. (Its easy if you cheat though and go on GameFAQs but back then before I knew that place existed I had to come up with combos)

Ikaruga

'Nuff said...

Ephermal Fantasia (spell check?)

It was a short game which killed you on time because you had to keep moving because time progress really fast. >_> Also when you had to go to places people told you to go you had no idea where the hell to go unless you got lucky or something. Playing the Guitar Freaks songs where great though XD

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

Tales of Destiny 2/Tales of Eternia

Killing Sekundes...on Hard=Never done XD

That guy was bery fast and had killer spells you either had to have insane levels or mad skills.

SaGa Frontier

One of Riki's ring quests. Where you have to fight Virgil but the only way to beat him is by getting combos higher than level 2 and you can't use the same combo again and if you take too long he starts to butcher your party. (Its easy if you cheat though and go on GameFAQs but back then before I knew that place existed I had to come up with combos)

Ikaruga

'Nuff said...

Ephermal Fantasia (spell check?)

It was a short game which killed you on time because you had to keep moving because time progress really fast. >_> Also when you had to go to places people told you to go you had no idea where the hell to go unless you got lucky or something. Playing the Guitar Freaks songs where great though XD

I hated Ephemeral Fantasia. Talking guitar? WTF?

Anyway, in Saga...the bosses you fight change difficulty depending on how many random fights you've been in. So if you run through the entire game and dodge the fights...you can literally beat every quest in 15 minutes.

[Prodigy Itachi]

Every Ninga Gaiden game. I'm playing through the new one now and i've flipped out and smashed things in raging frusration over three times only in the first ten hours. Including my brother. :D :bash:

[Mellow]

Whoa...so your chars with low stats can beat the final bosses of their story like that? O.o

That seems impossible for some chars though...you have to get into random battles..wait..you don't even get into random encounters O.o don't you just run into them?

[Sugetsu]

I have played contra, ninja gaiden and all those games that you mentioned, but the most difficult games I have ever played are two:

1. Tomb Raider 3: This game has the most illogical puzzles ever (NEVER beat it!) even it was criticized by many video game magazines as the most difficult puzzle game. It is almost impossible to win. (I hate it!)

2.Metal Slug: Any of the metal slugs are hella hard to beat, you don't have many continues and at the same time you die with one single shot. Contra is a child's play compared to this game. It is really hard to beat.

Has anyone played these games?

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

Whoa...so your chars with low stats can beat the final bosses of their story like that? O.o

That seems impossible for some chars though...you have to get into random battles..wait..you don't even get into random encounters O.o don't you just run into them?

Yeah...the bosses will have WAY wussy hit points. I beat Asellus' quest in 1 hour and 12 minutes, but that was my record. I got into like 23 fights, though.

The random fights only occurs when you come into contact with a monster sprite...so you can avoid them all, basically.

[dkellis]

Well, the QA department has to at least. Otherwise the game isn't tested...but that's not a requirement...it's just common sense...and they've had to finish the games from the very beginning. It's doubtful that anyone about QA ever touches the game.

I seem to recall that some games (I'm thinking of a few SNES ones, but I figure there are others) have really long button-pressing codes that unlock the debug menu, so the testers can blitz through the game in a day or so (makes sense not to have to spend weeks trying to get QA done each time). So I suppose those games can be beaten no matter what, because the testers have an unfair advantage. ^^

Hardest game I ever played... some sort of tennis game on the Game Gear. Consistently hitting a two-pixel ball is not a fun exercise.

[Superchop]

I seem to recall that some games (I'm thinking of a few SNES ones, but I figure there are others) have really long button-pressing codes that unlock the debug menu, so the testers can blitz through the game in a day or so (makes sense not to have to spend weeks trying to get QA done each time). So I suppose those games can be beaten no matter what, because the testers have an unfair advantage. ^^

Well...all those secret codes in games weren't added by accident now were they ;) they must of been added for a reason...and it's for mostly what you said...it's so they can check things in the game w/o having to play everything and/or doing everything to see if it all works ^_^

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

Well...all those secret codes in games weren't added by accident now were they ;) they must of been added for a reason...and it's for mostly what you said...it's so they can check things in the game w/o having to play everything and/or doing everything to see if it all works ^_^

Any REAL testing department has you play through the game without the codes. The codes can trigger parts of code that may be working, but those parts may not work normally.

[Hannah's_Knight]

Star Ocean: The Second Story

This is the most insanely hard game in the world and I was stuck on several parts of it for at least months. THen I tried to beat the last boss and ran into his daughter along the way...and accidently killed her...and there was Hell to pay when I tried to fight him again -_-;; *ahem* :heh:

[fenrihr]

i'll say ikaruga..... dam that was hard....

[Mr_Anonomis]

2.Metal Slug: Any of the metal slugs are hella hard to beat, you don't have many continues and at the same time you die with one single shot. Contra is a child's play compared to this game. It is really hard to beat.

ummmmmmmmmm. i can beat metal slug and metal slug x in like 15-25 minutes each, if im playing with one of my friends like 10-20, i really dont see how it's even remotely challenging...sorry if this seems at all mean, but it's my opinion.

[Sugetsu]

2.Metal Slug: Any of the metal slugs are hella hard to beat, you don't have many continues and at the same time you die with one single shot. Contra is a child's play compared to this game. It is really hard to beat.

ummmmmmmmmm. i can beat metal slug and metal slug x in like 15-25 minutes each, if im playing with one of my friends like 10-20, i really dont see how it's even remotely challenging...sorry if this seems at all mean, but it's my opinion.

Yeah It is easy if you play the room becuase you can save and load (oh and I forgot to say that you must play it on level 8 not 4)... but when you play it in the real acades on level 8 and with only 3 lives por game then it becames almost impossible. Of course, I know guys who can beat the game because they have played and died so many times that they know every enemy's attack by memory.

[Kamui4356]

I hated Ephemeral Fantasia. Talking guitar? WTF?

Anyway, in Saga...the bosses you fight change difficulty depending on how many random fights you've been in. So if you run through the entire game and dodge the fights...you can literally beat every quest in 15 minutes.
I remember that game... It's the only rpg I've played that I haven't been able to beat. Though there are some I have, that I haven't beaten yet simply because I haven't played them in a while. I didn't think ephemeral fantasia was hard, I just can't figure out where to go. The time loop thing is annoying as hell. :frustrated:
Other than that I'd have to say most of the really old games, like pacman for example, are much harder than anything that came out since.

[dkellis]

Other than that I'd have to say most of the really old games, like pacman for example, are much harder than anything that came out since.

I'm not sure if Pacman can actually be beaten. ^^; I know I've never seen all the levels before.

[Kamui4356]

I'm not sure if Pacman can actually be beaten. ^^; I know I've never seen all the levels before.
I heard some guy beat it with a perfect score once. It was in the news a few years ago. He had been playing it almost every day since it came out. :twitch:
Star Ocean: The Second Story

This is the most insanely hard game in the world and I was stuck on several parts of it for at least months. THen I tried to beat the last boss and ran into his daughter along the way...and accidently killed her...and there was Hell to pay when I tried to fight him again -_-;; *ahem* :heh:
Heh heh, you released his limiter. :nono: That makes the last boss much much stronger. Fortunatly you can level up to 255. I think I remember reading somewhere that you need to be at level 160 minimum to have a chance at beating him with the limiter off. :)
With the limiter on, I was able to beat him at around level 70. I controlled Reena, while I set claude, ashton and precis as npcs. I then used what ever I had to increase speed. Next I started using star flare until one of the other characters broke through and landed something like mirror slice. Finally I concentrated on healing the other party members.
The best part about that game were the fights you were supposed to lose. One of them I was actually doing well, so I didn't realize I couldn't win it. :heh: I ended up wasting all my healing items on that.

[Sh1ka9on]

Anyone here played Hamtaro Hams-Hams Unite? Boy... now that game was rough, ^-^ it took me a couple days, going on weeks to gather up the little hamsters... I even nearly resorted to a Guide!? The hamsters could've been anywhere!? How was i supposed to know where to find them..

[Iron Monkey]

I see Double Dragon 1-3 on there. I used to be a total DD fanatic, I bought all 3 as soon as they came out. (back when I was a kid, I was naive enough to think NES DD would be the same as the arcade version) Still, they were great games, IMO.

I dunno, they were hard, but definitely not insanely hard. In fact, I think DD2 was the easiest of the three. I know I got stuck on lvl 7 (with the conveyor belts) for the longest time until I found out how to properly jump them. DD1 was the hardest out of the three, but I thought that was do-able as well. Me and my cousins used to play the VS mode all the time. I remember we used to play it with the Power Glove too, just cuz it seemed so damn cool back when we were little. I guess the idea's kinda lame if I think about it now. :heh:

Another insanely hard game was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 for the NES. Damn, I remember I was so happy beating the Technodrome just to realize to get killed shortly after entering it. That was one game I had to use the game genie to pass.

[Dark Zero]

Another insanely hard game was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 for the NES. Damn, I remember I was so happy beating the Technodrome just to realize to get killed shortly after entering it. That was one game I had to use the game genie to pass.

That brings back old memories......I got to Shredder my first time, and only time, with only donatello, well to keep this short, 1/2 a cube of life doesn't get you past shredder ;)

[AG3]

In fact, I think DD2 was the easiest of the three. I know I got stuck on lvl 7 (with the conveyor belts) for the longest time until I found out how to properly jump them.

Those conveyor belts were the worst! I was never able to beat Double Dragon 2 without using the "beat up player 2 for extra lives" trick. But the game was just plain fun, especially when you grabbed people by the hair, smashed their face twice with your knee before throwing them over your shoulder :heh: A perfect game for impressionable youth :heh:


Another insanely hard game was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 for the NES. Damn, I remember I was so happy beating the Technodrome just to realize to get killed shortly after entering it. That was one game I had to use the game genie to pass.

TMNT 1 was a little flawed, IMO. The best Turtle was Donatello (Leonardo a close second) for his extreme reach and damage, you could even beat some bosses without them being able to reach you at all. Raphael just plain sucked with his lously range. But the game was good, and the NES version was a big improvement over the C64 version I tried first.

*Edit*
This thread is starting to look a little bit like "Old men reminiscing their youth" :heh:

[Superchop]

This thread is starting to look a little bit like "Old men reminiscing their youth" :heh:

Lol, well...we can't help the fact that the hardest games we played were during the times of the ol' 8 bit NES...

Hmm...that final fantasy thread just reminded me of another game that i could've never beaten w/o some kind of cheating..FF3

going to fight the final boss was insane...from what i remember as soon as you entered that level you couldn't go back...there was no area to buy items or heal your chars...so you had to depend on your spells and items....and to make things worst you had to fight 4 hard bosses before actually reaching the final boss...

And i got incredibly lucky fighting that final boss too...the boss had killed all my chars except my main one...i didn't have any more items to ressurect them so they had to stay dead...all i did was attack twice and use an elixer to fully heal my char....up until i used my last one -_- so it was just me and the boss...no items or spells to use to heal...all i needed was 1 more hit from that boss and i would've been dead and have game over....but luckily my last attack before meeting death was all i needed to kill the final boss....I was SO happy and releived at that time...and i'll never again play that game just cause i don't want to ever see that final area ever again...

edit: my form of cheating was using save state...since i played the rom...if i think i used to many items/spells fighting one of the bosses i would just reload at the point before i fought him...

[OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

I heard some guy beat it with a perfect score once. It was in the news a few years ago. He had been playing it almost every day since it came out. :twitch:


Well, he beat it perfectly...without losing a life. There's an article about him in some recent magazine.

[piccahoe]

most of the old school game are hard like....

mario 1&2 was pretty hard
Mega man 2 (I saw a video of somebody beating it like it was nothing @_@)
TMNT 1 for nes

and I can't think of any more right now....

[Hannah's_Knight]

Heh heh, you released his limiter. That makes the last boss much much stronger. Fortunatly you can level up to 255. I think I remember reading somewhere that you need to be at level 160 minimum to have a chance at beating him with the limiter off.

I think I was at Level 200 or something, I kept making Rena and Celine chuck spells like press and bolt at it to throw it off course and it was running about getting chased by Claude and Dias...I was getting Celine to chuck those strange rolling balls at it every so often and it took me two hours to kill it without breaks :heh:

Then I killed it at the same time as it killed me and I just sat there staring at the screen like :twitch: then started crying, lol...>>sad.....
I killed it in a bout of rage on the next go though :)

[Aquillion]

None of the RPGs y'all are mentioning are really hard. Yeah, sure NES RPGs were tougher than ones today, but they weren't tough.

You want to know what was tough? Wizardry was tough. The first three ones were pretty bad. The boss of Wizardry 1, for instance, could do about a hundred damage to your entire party with a single spell, and it's unlikely your mage, cleric or bishop ever got above 60 hp or so, so he'd generally kill half your party in the first round of combat, and the other half next round. Of course, even some of the later random opponents could do that. And then there were the ninjas that could kill your party members automatically on a critical hit. And resurrection only worked sometimes, and often cost you stats. And you only had 8 inventory slots per person, most of which had to be spent on equipment; and even if you had more room, the potions were rare treasures that restored maybe 1-8 HP, and there was no way to restore spells without returning to town. Plus there were the dark zones and the antimagic zones and the spinners and the non-euclidian maps that defied mapping and left you with no way home... And even if you survived all that, you could still die of old age.

But those first three wizardries were the easy wizardries. It was tough, but you could level up your party and eventually face most of the dangers down. Yeah, sure, a group of ninjas could always ambush you and kill half your party instantly, there was no levelling your way out of that; and random-encounter wizards could kill your entire party very easily if you weren't careful. But you could do something.

Wizardry 4 wasn't like that. In Wizardry 4, you get one character, the evil wizard Werdna. You can't level him up normally; instead, you gain 9 levels throughout the game at certain plot points. That's it. No powerlevelling. You don't have a party, either; instead, you can summon monsters to escort you through the dungeon. Some of them have neat abilities, but you can't give them direct orders, ever, so you just have to keep your fingers crossed and hope they do what you want them to. These monsters never level up (though as you advance through your 9 levels of power, you can summon bigger things); and when they die, they're dead. The only way to replace them is to get back to your summoning points, which are few and far apart. And Werdna is a mage, so he has virtually nil HP; if you ever run out of monsters, that's it. He can't even survive one attack.

Now, Werdna, being a mage, does have spells. His magical abilities, once you reach level 9, are awsome beyond comparison. He can cast each level of spells exactly nine times before he runs out and has to recharge at a summoning circle. If he runs out before you reach the circle, that's it; so you have to treat those nine kickass spells like your last skin of water in a desert that goes on for a thousand miles, and probably just has more desert on the other side. That's basically how it works.

Oh, and you're up against heroes. Let me tell you about heroes. They don't play fair. They'll take you on six-vs-one without a thought. They have ninjas, of course, who still kill instantly on a critical; they have mages who will cheerfully blast away your entire team in a single attack; they have fighters who get sixteen attacks per round and have enough HP to overflow the register. They have thieves who can hide in combat and steal items that you need to complete the game, in which case you'd better hope that you have a save handy. And when you finally manage to kill them, that scavy-boned cleric in the back row brings them back to life so you can do it again. And, remember, you don't level up through experience in this game, so you don't get anything for any of this.

Imagine taking the side of the monsters in a generic random encounter against a party of buffed-up heroes. That's Wizardry 4 for you in a nutshell. But even that is just the beginning. Assume the heroes don't kill you. Assume you manage to avoid running out of spells, your plot-essential items don't get stolen, your monsters stay alive, the enemy ninjas never get critical hits, etc, etc, etc. Fine, all that means is that you get to live long enough to face the puzzles. Wizardry 4 had the hardest riddles any game has ever had. Most of them don't make any sense anyway. Wizardry 4 has mazes that make the unmappable, non-euclidian mazes of Wizardry 1 look like beautifully straight corridors. Wizardry 4 has barrages of questions, any one of which can put the game in an unsolvable state if you get them wrong (without telling you that you've made a mistake, of course.) There's a puzzle that requires you reached the end of the first game to know the solution (without telling you that the solution was at the end of the first game, of course); and that puzzle is right near the end of Wizardry 4, so you could get stuck there after slaving through everything else. And you have to solve all these puzzles while the heroes are killing you.

Oh, and in addition to the heroes, you're being chased by the ghost of your old archnemesis Trebor. Trebor is dead, so you can't kill him again through normal means; he just keeps coming back to haunt you. Trebor always knows exactly where you are and chases you through magical means. Also, if Trebor reaches you then you die instantly. Trebor sucks. But by the time you learn about Trebor, you're sort of numb anyway.

Wizardry IV is fun, in its own way. Many people think it's the best game in the series. But it is hard. It's hard enough to make grown men cry. It's so hard that nobody has ever been willing to make a remake of it; not even in Japan, where the Wizardry games quite popular, and where they released a new and much easier Wizardry IV ("Throb Of The Demon's Heart" IIRC) instead.

You know the hardest boss you ever faced in any console RPG--the one that really gave you a tough time? The one that actually managed to kill you two or three times, and required a bit of levelling before you could finally bring him down? Well, in his spare time that boss plays Wizardry IV; and he can't get out of the first room.

[Mellow]

Pshaw...so your saying E. Fantasia's easy huh? Alright then...ok..fine..it's easy..

Oh Yeah..SomeGuy, yeahs thats right...although i know why you said you have to avoid as many battles as possible in SaGa otherwise certain battles will get your party killed within a seconds. Asellus doesn't sound that hard to do now that you mention it..because all you do is buy Asura and pwn the boss. XD

Then again...rushing through the game like that makes it no fun...sure if your doing like SaGa Time attack with your friends...otherwise rushing through a game like that justs kills it. T_T XD

[e2-]

Mortal kombat 2 :D never finished it hah

[wnkryo]

Star Ocean: The Second Story

This is the most insanely hard game in the world and I was stuck on several parts of it for at least months. THen I tried to beat the last boss and ran into his daughter along the way...and accidently killed her...and there was Hell to pay when I tried to fight him again -_-;; *ahem* :heh:


Are you kidding me? I owned this game to heck and back. The thing you need for a sure win is those god damn usefull bunny shoes you can win from a carnavel. They make every one go SUPER fast, plus the 2 headed dragon guy's tri-ace is also very much nessesary.

[Vulkar]

ungh. The first Ninja Gaiden game was really tough. Got it when I was little and to this day still have not beaten it. Those boss battles at the end of the game are too too tough. I beat the first guy, but then when you fight the next guy, Jacquio, your health isn't restored, so he rapes you, and then when you lost all your lives and hit continue you get sent all the way back to the beginning of Death Bridge, which is about 5 or 6 levels before the final boss. Usually I just give up in frustration, anybody know what I'm talking about?

Great game though. I love the cinema cut-scenes too.

[GipFace]

Tetris, highest speed :O

[luckme10]

First thing to ask before I say my suggestions:

1. Was "Super Mario 2" ever released for your NES? I assume your version was the one which you choose either Mario, Luigi, Peach Princess and Kinopio each level and the last boss was this big ugly frog. Over here, it was a different game called "Yume Koujo Doki Doki Panic" and had nothing to do with SMB characters.

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Our "Super Mario 2" was something like the first Super Mario on drugs.

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Yeah that was our equivalent of "Mario 2" Recently rereleased on the Game boy advanced not too long ago. Probably the most differcult of the mario's and it was all a damn dream! OH GAWD THAT PISSES ME OFF one of the few video game endings i remember. I have afew of those "52 game hong kong bootlegs" for the famicon with the nes adapter that rarely work. But i saw that Mario on crack version and I have to say..i didn't think it was considered a real game until you just mentioned it.


2. What is "Ninja Gaiden?" Is the main character some ninja names "Ryu Hayabusa?" If so, then I will understand its difficulty. The original title here was "Ninja Ryuukenden." Am i the only one who hated this jump?

Everyone hated his jump.. and the dogs, the eagles, the bats and everyother damn thing that threw you backinto a bottomless piss with the game flashing game over...continues left...infinity...so you can get hit by the same bird, cat, dog, turtle whatever again, again and again!

3. One quick verification needed: In 2002, Konami released a game for GBA that previously had the series title "Seimajou Dracula." If my prediction are correct, then that would mean in the States, "Seimajou Dracula" was released under the series title "Castlevania." I say this because Konami issued a statement before selling this game to Japanese consumers that "we will change the series title 'Seimajo Dracula' to the internationally accepted name 'Castlevania.' " If so, then I would like to add the several first "Seimajo Dracula" series to difficult games. On a side note, this game was for the Famicom Disk System over here.

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Yes it was known as Castlevania over here. Big Old school castlevania fan. That looks like its the first one. (the copyright gives it away). 3 were released for the nintendo Castlevania 1, 2 Simon's quest, 3 um trevor, alucard, weak spell caster and wacky pirate that can climb up walls quest? I wish they would release the the pc-engine (turbo grafix-16/turbo express)version of Castlevania bloodlines over here. They butchered it when they tried to convert it over to the super nintendo.

Out of your list of games the only ones I can recognize is: Unfortunitely we(the US) got really screwed over in the past when it game to what games were translated. Our Final fantasy 3 was your 6. We got final fantasy's: 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, x-2, 11
Missing 2,3 in the beginning to be released as Final fantasy Orgins(1 and 2) Final fantasy Anthologies (5 and 6) Final fantasy Chronicles(chrono trigger and 4)

Bahamut Lagoon (Square)(fansubbed )


Dragon Quest I,II,III,IV (ENIX)( these are classics i had one on my calculator...it got me though highschool =) )
Ice Climber (Nintendo) I have an in depth review that I wrote on this game: Ice Climbers
Ah enter the world of late 80's gaming. A time when Nintendo was the monopoly of systems and the only thing worth playing on the Master system was phantasy star (forgive me Sega fans). Atari had released its 7800 and was still holding on by a thread. Well actually it made it to the Jaguar but bare with my flashback here. Anyways the game on review today is the 1985 NES classic, Ice Climbers.. Yes those fuzzy little eskimos found in super smash brothers that you wonder where the hell did those come from!?! Are they like the hammer brothers on LSD?!? Their game/ their fame, was ICE CLIMBERS! The 99 lv game that I never bothered to get to because that damn peradactal at the top of the tower always knocked me off. God bless the 80's cartradages as big as an 8 track tape and yet fits enough information to fit small bits of variants from same garbage over and over and over again. My favorite notacible recycled images are the color changes. Not that they don't do this now *Cough* Zelda 6: Majora's Mask anyone? If anyone remembers contra they will recall all the "lets ditch your partner in the back (or bottom ) if you will so they'll lose there third and final life strategy"! And then the satisfaction of stealing your friends lives to get them back is, oh, so comforting. Anyways enough renimising about the past and time to pick this game apart! *dusts off his nintendo* To summerize, Ice climbers is a game about 2 eskimos climbing up long 8-bit mountains to take back there vegetables from the horendious peradactyl. Apparently, to clarify, the animal that steals your fruit is a condor and not a peradactyl... Which brings me to the first catagory... Graphics!.
Graphics: While it would be unfair to judge these graphics by todays standards...however, as it being today I am naturally biast towards the present! These graphics SUCK just plain SUCK, as all graphics in the 80's! Yet they have a retro appeal to them that only the vurtrially insaine a.k.a. geakazoid can appreciate. Look at the pretty uh blue level..
Music: MIDI I LUV MIDI yeah I can listen to midi format music all day while shooting myself in the foot and chugging 200 proof moonshine. If you would like to hear a collection type in ice climbers midi go to your favorite search engine and go ape! They only take about 5 k per song..if you can even call it a song. More like a loop of a 10 second clip played over and over giving you a good reason to break that nintendo and the controller...umm which reminds me I need to get a new one some time soon.
Replay: Well you will replay this alot...or at least you will feel like you have after the first 2 seconds of gameplay... This is where we play the pain game as see just how much you can take...after all theres only one objective! The hard headed duel bash there way up the mountian in the only way they can. And I mean hard headed because they hit there head on the level above before actually swinging the wooden hammer. GO my little blue friend UP! UP! UP!
Enemies:One the way up the seemlesssly endless mountain they meet enemies, enemies and well, More enemies! Ranging from polar bears and DEADLY SEALS that will instantly kill you upon touch to retracting floors. Ah yes the characters that we all love to hate DIE DAMN pikachu..uh I mean SEAL! Yes the whole death upon touch was a very popular way to die back then. Although when I look at the multiplier, I think back to the quote "mans worst enemy is himself" and this can't be anymore true! You pink little multiplayer friend is constantly either leaving you in the dust or can't keep up...and while you spend a good amount of time kicking your friend next to you and yelling at him to hurry his slow ass, the damn polar bear pops out and finnishes you off. Leaving you on yet another 80's game produced rampage and once again breaking your controller damn it why didn't they make these more durable!


Player 1 resumes the role of Popo this is distinguishable by the color blue. While player 2 resumes the role of Nana (the pink eskimo). The games phyics seem to be taken straight from mars giving off that annoying jump sky high feel while yes your feet squirm back and forth like your running on air! As you progressively go up in levels, the colors change and more reclining sidewalks are to come.


Lode Runner (Hudson Soft)(I hate this game..... damn reappearing guys that you can't just kill before you bury)


Makaimura (CAPCOM) - I remember playing this game so many times!!!
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Makaimura looks like either Ghouls and Goblins(for the sega Genesis) a pain in the ass and heavily inspired games like "Maximo" for the ps2.

[Link]

I'm gonna have to say The Legend of Zelda, Zelda II: Adventure of Link , and Duckhunt with the gun from a some distance away.

[::faze]

Ikaruga for sure, I dont think I've spent more time playing this than other non-online/non-competitive game. I had no clue what to do with the ch3 boss and ch4/5 until i saw vids.

other hard games i remember playing:
Ninja Gaiden 2 - used to play this for hours when i was kid, took me a long time to beat it
TMNT - the first one, the one that goes into top down view sometimes and u controlled the 4 turtles by switching them in and out. I still havent beat it to this day, but I was a kid, its hard to tell if I was just bad at games at the time :p
Virtua Tennis - I could never beat King/Master in world circuit mode. It's just ridiculously frustrating. I think I was lucky to get more than one set on em lol

[husyk]

Virtua Fighter 4 and Extreme G Racing 3 for PS2.

[Dark Zero]

luckme10 you mean Dracula X for SNES right? Because BLOODLINES was for sega genesis. I liked both either way, and I found DracX enjoyable, even though I heard the pc-engine one was great, but don't know if it was raped on the snes as you say it, since I never played that version. Still great anyhow.

I remember 'The Guardian Legend' was a pretty tough game, but I ended up beating it and it didn't seem all that hard after the fact -_- But those flight levels later on where a pain...

Oh let's not forget good ol' RoboCop on NES.....all i remember is that i go quite far and then, ehh.......I rather not remember the rest.

[Superchop]

Oh let's not forget good ol' RoboCop on NES.....all i remember is that i go quite far and then, ehh.......I rather not remember the rest.

Well...let me refresh your memory...you died right before the last boss ;) Ahahahahahahahhhahah

Ah, another boss i had an insanely hard time with...Ganon from Zelda: Ocarina of time...[/sarcasm] haha, j/k...i managed to beat him using deku nuts and only used the mastersword for the final blow to end the game...and all this while not getting hit...or hitting his eyes with light arrows....just deku nuts...and 1 sword swipe ^_^

[Dark Zero]

Well...let me refresh your memory...you died right before the last boss ;) Ahahahahahahahhhahah


That was uncalled for :( You lucky I rather not remind you of some things ;)

[Hao Asakura]

It was that damn contra game, thank god for the old cheat code that gave infinite lives o.O

Fully agree with u. Hardest games would be those CONTRA series. Still can't finish it the PS2 version, put so much effort but can't reach lv 7 to get the true ending. Btw, newest version of Contra is coming to PS2 (named Neo Contra). Looking forward to this hell-ish game :heh:

[Kyuven]

...Superman 64...actually it wasn't particularly "up there" on the actual difficulty scale...
it just sucked so much...i could never beat it in a million years (same with soooo many N64 RPGs/Adventure games...)
also...FFI RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAALLLYYY YY tried my patience >_<

[Vulkar]

Oh let's not forget good ol' RoboCop on NES.....all i remember is that i go quite far and then, ehh.......I rather not remember the rest.

Yeah, I have the same memories. That game sucked so much though. You can't even jump!!! Wasted my money that day. :(

[Dark Zero]

How about another game, wasn't all that hard, but rather annoying. RC Pro Am. Like what the HELL is the use of upgrading your car, all that effort, when the goddamn CPU levels up with you? WHATS THE USE?! And did I mention they cheated like crazy?! SPEED boosts when there werent any?!

[Kyuven]

How about another game, wasn't all that hard, but rather annoying. RC Pro Am. Like what the HELL is the use of upgrading your car, all that effort, when the goddamn CPU levels up with you? WHATS THE USE?! And did I mention they cheated like crazy?! SPEED boosts when there werent any?!
Fire Emblem for the GBA takes the cake on annoying games...
the game isn't actually DIFFICULT, but if you want a perfect ending you have to keep each
and every
single
character alive
what makes it the MOST annoying is that the characters with no offensive abilities (Ninian, Nils, Serra, etc.) are easier to keep alive than offensive characters (possibly has to do with sending your knight down into enemy turf and having 5 axe-wielding reinforcements pop up on you)

[Dark Zero]

Fire Emblem for the GBA takes the cake on annoying games...
the game isn't actually DIFFICULT, but if you want a perfect ending you have to keep each
and every
single
character alive
what makes it the MOST annoying is that the characters with no offensive abilities (Ninian, Nils, Serra, etc.) are easier to keep alive than offensive characters (possibly has to do with sending your knight down into enemy turf and having 5 axe-wielding reinforcements pop up on you)

There are more annoying games to mention, but thats another thread itself ;)
But I'll mention another one, SHINOBI (ps2), but I kicked its ass rather simply anyway, but boy was it annoying.

[Hotaru]

For me Maximo was the hardest, but I prefer calling it the most annoying game ever. Damn camera angles and jump angles.

[Jinx626]

As mentioned by previous posts, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 on NES...The game still gives me nightmares to this day....

[OrO]

it's not the hardest game but it was pretty difficult : Cho Jikuu Yosai Macross on SNES
I can finish it thx to my saves on emulator ! but this one is pretty hard and fun too :)

[7thMethuselah]

Hardest game ever : TETRIS after all these years I still haven't reached the final level :heh:

[Sethi]

One of the hardest for me was Flashback for Mega Drive(Of course it could have been because i was like 10 years old or something back then), FFVII was hard in the beginning especially when i saw that the characters were all weird but when i got to play the game more it became one of my favorite games. And then there are those boring games that a guy goes buy and gets a total crap but since we bought it might as well try to reach the end and man it feels like eternity to reach it :D

[Superchop]

Hardest game ever : TETRIS after all these years I still haven't reached the final level :heh:

I honestly don't think the game ends...so you'll be playing for a long while ;) i got up to level 117 once before losing and after that i just gave up...and my cousin got up to 124? or higher i think...

on the other hand..if you play Game B where it counts down the lines then that one you can reach the end...although to get the best ending you have to play it at the highest levels possible with everything as high as it can go...speed=highest, amount of lines to begin with=highest etc etc...then you get a real special..and somewhat pretty long ending :D

[momojigari]

I'm gonna agree w/ the person who posted about Maximo. But i think i have a better one. Anyone played Chaos Legion for the PS2?? hehehe...you gotta be "uberized" before you decide to fight on the Stage 3...bah...its sitting on my shelf now.

[Dark Zero]

I honestly don't think the game ends...so you'll be playing for a long while ;) i got up to level 117 once before losing and after that i just gave up...and my cousin got up to 124? or higher i think...

on the other hand..if you play Game B where it counts down the lines then that one you can reach the end...although to get the best ending you have to play it at the highest levels possible with everything as high as it can go...speed=highest, amount of lines to begin with=highest etc etc...then you get a real special..and somewhat pretty long ending :D


It was 180ish, I think 197, not 124 ;) OOPS our secret is out! :D


As for the maximo thing, game was simple, just the camera got annoying and made some of the platforming too damn annoying, other then that, I barely considered the game hard.

[dkellis]

I honestly don't think the game ends...so you'll be playing for a long while ;) i got up to level 117 once before losing and after that i just gave up...and my cousin got up to 124? or higher i think...

There's a video floating around (in the vein of Insane Videogame Tricks) which shows what seems to be the Tetris Finals in Japan. The woman in the video went up to level 800+ before it faded out.

I'm not sure if that's a special case, though.

[Sethi]

There's a video floating around (in the vein of Insane Videogame Tricks) which shows what seems to be the Tetris Finals in Japan. The woman in the video went up to level 800+ before it faded out.

I'm not sure if that's a special case, though.
Level 800? DAMN, how much time did she played that thing for?

As for the maximo thing, game was simple, just the camera got annoying and made some of the platforming too damn annoying, other then that, I barely considered the game hard.
That i agree the Maximo series has one of the most annoying cameras, Maximo 2 is almost equal in that aspect to the first, but more annoying is Tomb Raider Angel Of Darkness, they completed butchered the series, almost everything in the game sucks.

[Unidentified]

I don't see how a RPG can be hard. The hardest game for me was a contra game for the snes(or nes), not sure what it's called, but either way it was cool but hard since it's one of those 1 hit kill games. Devil May Cry can be hard at times also in the harder difficulties.

[Dark Zero]

Level 800? DAMN, how much time did she played that thing for?


That i agree the Maximo series has one of the most annoying cameras, Maximo 2 is almost equal in that aspect to the first, but more annoying is Tomb Raider Angel Of Darkness, they completed butchered the series, almost everything in the game sucks.

Well that would explain why AoD dropped price so damn fast :p I haven't played it, saw some of it as a demo, wasn't to impressed. Then again, it takes alot to impress me, so that game sure as hell would never come close to taht anyway.

As for maximo2, I want to pick it up sooner or later, is it a bit 'less' annoying, I heard they tried to fix the camera a bit.

It was nothing more annoying in maximo 1, trying to jump onto a moving platform in the frozen river, where the camera decides to tilt where it shouldn't and throws your shadow off, the ONLY thing that gives ANY hint of where you will land. Then congrats, you got passed ONE platform, try the next 6. And dying in that game wasn't something you wanted to do :(

[dkellis]

Level 800? DAMN, how much time did she played that thing for?

I think it was a competition, and they had a special machine. It was something along the lines of one level up per Tetris piece.

[Sepiraph]

I can't remember which game I found the most difficult, though. Journey to Silius (NES), Green Beret (Rush 'n Attack? C64/NES), Turtles 1 (C64/NES), Metal Gear 1 (NES), Ghosts 'n Goblins (NES, this one was REAL hard!). These are the games that at the top of my head I can remember being hard.

I think Ghosts 'n Goblins (called Ghouls n' Ghosts on the SNES?) is the single hardest game I've ever encountered in my life. And you even had to beat it TWICE in a row in order to get the real ending. Or was it more? I think I rarely got past the first or second level. The SNES version was easier, but the old NES version was hard enough to make you wanna grind that little grey cartridge into dust.

Dont know about the NES version as I never played it, but the SNES version (Ghouls n' Ghosts) was really tough. I think I rented or borrowed that game and I'm not even sure if I was ever able to beat it.

Star Ocean: The Second Story

This is the most insanely hard game in the world and I was stuck on several parts of it for at least months. THen I tried to beat the last boss and ran into his daughter along the way...and accidently killed her...and there was Hell to pay when I tried to fight him again -_-;; *ahem* :heh:

Really? I never found that game hard at all and I think I beat the last boss (one of the "wise-men" I think) the 1st time. :) Well I guess it could be that since both me and my brother plays at the same time and we both just do combos like crazy. :)

[skillosopher]

contra: shattered soldier

for ps2.

ive gotten an S for the first 5 levels straight before, and my best record for finishing the game was 6 deaths total after level 7. can anyone top that score?

[hamiko_san]

10 things more, you never know.

[FrostLich]

One of the contra games for Nintendo. I forgot which one it was but i could never beat that game even in co op mode. I think it was the 1st contra but i cant be certain. Although that was a long time ago when i was still a kid. I have gotton a lot better at games and am a lot more persistant and learn from my mistakes. If i were given a second chance to play it, i wouldn't stop until i've beaten it.

[skillosopher]

bah. contra shattered soldier is 1 hit kills too! its just as tough if not tougher than the origional NES version.

[aahhsin]

Has anyone played this Luigi game?

Where Mario gets lost in time and you have to use Luigi to go and find him?

They ask a bunch of hard ass history questions and as Luigi you have to go around and collect items and answer the questions correctly to go forth?

Anyone remember?

I think it's called Luigi : Mario Is Missing or something like that.

That is the hardest game I have ever played, it's from the NES time. Very long ago.

[haunterex]

for me...
FinaL Fantasy 1 in GB, i was stuck at the second world trying to find a "pearl" like thing in this forest for 10 years.
That's right, 10 years, i first played it when i was 9, got stuck there, tried to find my way out, eventually, all my characters were lvl 99. I gave up for like a few years, and finally, when i was 19, i found the game in one of my boxes, when on gamefaqs.com to find the answer for my decade long problem. I solved it and finally passed the stage i was stuck at, but then i lost the will to finish the game.

Final fantasy 2 (or is it 3?) has the hardest monster i have even fought against in all RPG games.
It the famous cactus of the FF serie. This cactus is hidden in the final level stage; you can only engage in combat with it if you circle the 4 top right square at the little island platform with the elevator leading out of the final stage.
I swear i battled at least 60 times with the mofo, and i have only beaten it twice. It got an utimate sword called "seven". It's basically a sword that does 9999 damage at least to who even it hits, but it has the chance of hitting seven times per attack.
i tried to kill that mofo to get that ultimate weapon.. but sadly.. i never succeeded...

Last but not least, one of the hardest game i had even played is got to be commando: behind enemy line, it's so much harder compare to commando 2 and 3, because of the limited functions u can do with your characters. For some missions, one wrong step with a second off the planned attack and you will screwed up a plan staged for hours.
But i love that game, the feeling of slaughter a whole camp of nazi with just a few guys armed with pistols and knife are so rewarding.XD

[Roots]

Has anyone played this Luigi game?

Where Mario gets lost in time and you have to use Luigi to go and find him?

They ask a bunch of hard ass history questions and as Luigi you have to go around and collect items and answer the questions correctly to go forth?

Anyone remember?

I think it's called Luigi : Mario Is Missing or something like that.

That is the hardest game I have ever played, it's from the NES time. Very long ago.

I remember it! But the game I'm thinking of was for the SNES. I remember you were in SanFransisco or something and you had to do something like find artificats and famous monuments in the city or something? It was a hard game, especially since I was so young then. :p

[dreamless]

Ikaruga and Border Down... really hard and really require some skills...

Syndicate American Revolt and Syndicate Wars... makes me want to pull my hair out in some stages... but a great feel of accomplishment when finally beat them...

[ANaTHeMA]

Actually I had Mario is missing on PC, on my very first 486 :D

Never really played it as I found it quite boring, but it was pretty hard....

The hardest game I ever played must be Ghost & Goblins on the NES I think?

Aaah no... I'd have to say the hardest games are the old 1 hit kill games. I simply hate this kinds of games :p

[Kouji]

Tales of Symphonia
:heh: If your characters aren't up to speed prior to facing Sword Dancers 1, 2 & 3 + Abyssion. Then you'd basically get owned.

Same would go for future bosses.

[megazone23]

Ok, umm... the hardest video game I've played must've been 'Adventure' for PC (ok, I'm not THAT old, ok?) It was a really, really old text adventure game that was a pain to play. I think it was near impossible to finish? Not because it required any reflex to play or anything, but because the descriptions for things were so bad, that you had to use LOTS of creativity and imagination to find things and do things that were needed. Oh yeah, and if your English was bad and you always mispelled one word, well, it's game over because you wouldn't get anywhere *cough cough* Always mispelled words when I was small.

This topic's a hard topic though since some people play certain games so much that it becomes easy to them. Any reflex-based games would be the only choices I think because turn-based games, you'll eventually beat if you have the patience to play and thinking games you'll eventually think through (or both of those could be done with some online FAQ guide or something) but even with guidebooks and stuff, reflex-based games (such as those mentioned like TMNT, Megaman, Zelda II (I don't remember HOW MANY TIMES I had to continue and start back off at the palace before I finished this... and you had to die to save) etc) can't be beat unless you train up those reflexes and get the 'feel' of when to do things or what to do in certain situations.

Also depends on the person I think because some people are born and raised with a sense of good reflexes, but would suck when it came to thinking/puzzle games while others may have been logically thinking all their lives and when a controller is put in their hand for some action game, they would suck. And then there are those who just happen to be raised with a healthy balance of the two that find nearly every game easy.

**Final Fantasy 1 was fun though with 4 black belts even though it was tough starting off, but after a certain point, nothing got in your way =P

Ok, I'm starting to rant on. I think I'd better stop here.

[Fei-san]

Shadowgate for the nes, remember when i was 4 me and my 2 brothers + my dad sat playing for like 5 hours straight, and we solved nothing, not that 4, 6 and 8 year olds can do much :p

[Sanger]

donpachi at maximum level, or final path of demon blazon for snes (one of the greates game ever)

[luffy]

i havent played it, but I heard that "shinobi" was supose to be one of the hardest games..........
for me I would say "flight simulator98' without a joy stick...lol :heh:

[LytHka]

Last but not least, one of the hardest game i had even played is got to be commando: behind enemy line, it's so much harder compare to commando 2 and 3, because of the limited functions u can do with your characters. For some missions, one wrong step with a second off the planned attack and you will screwed up a plan staged for hours.
But i love that game, the feeling of slaughter a whole camp of nazi with just a few guys armed with pistols and knife are so rewarding.XD

I have to agree. Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines was the hardest game for me too. I remember spending one extra sniper bullet that was actually meant to hit one of those floating bombs on the water. I needed that for an escape. I had to repeat the whole level cuz I was saving way too much.

[Electrode]

The hardest games I have ever played are:

Super-C for the NES. It's like the original Contra on crack. Very awesome game, though. Had some good music, too.

Super Mario Bros. 3, again on the NES. Well, I probably could beat it now if I set my mind to it, but when I was younger (as in about ten years ago), I really thought it was the hardest game on Earth. It was just such a big game, and some of the levels in the last world had so much crap flying around that you had trouble understanding just what was going on. I found myself giving up many times because I just either got bored, or couldn't handle it.

Ikaruga on the Dreamcast. One of the hardest shooters I have ever played in my life. Even on the easiest difficulty, it's deathly hard. I also had the misfortune of playing it once with someone who had absolutely no idea of what they were doing. Of course, that made the game harder still.

Eternal Champions and Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Dark Side on the Genesis and Sega-CD. This is what I think are the two hardest fighting games in existence. It's been eight years now, and I'm still playing on the easiest difficulty. The sad thing about it is that you still get your ass regularly handed to you, even on the easiest difficulty. Not only that, but if you ever advance past the first stage, if you lose any stage after that, you go back a stage, and have to play past your previous battle again. Oh, the frustration... (Despite the ridiculous difficulty, it still is one of the best fighting games I have ever played - I just keep coming back to it for its excellent characters and involving storyline, not to mention that the numerous multiplayer battle and tournament modes rule.)

[Bullsquat]

Those puzzle/adventure 'quest' games from Sierra are so hard to play, for me at least. Sometimes the actions you have to undertake is so illogical that you have no way of knowing that its the path you're suppose to take. Nevertheless, it gets your curiosity up until you finally get stuck for an extended period of time for which you finally give up.

[Lain Iwakura]

Contra:Shattered Soldier. :mad:

[Meow]

DOOM 3

Yeah its evil... especialy when you turn off your light.

The most easyest game ive ever played was Sonic 2 :heh:

[NoirKy]

I thought Gradius was really really hard. Especially playing that thing alone...

[Ialdaboth]

Minesweeper.

Never finished a party.
That thing is evil.

[Ending]

Two games:

1) Super Ghosts'n'Goblins. Don't ever try it without emulator and quick-save/load feature. You won't get further than the first level otherwise.

2) Breath of Fire 2. I have actually finished this game three times due of the interesting character concepts, but the difficulty jumps in huge leaps if you do not do some menial monster bashing. Really, really difficult.

[Ombrenuit]

I think it was called Battletoads...it was on the sega and it was impossible

[Marionette Man]

For m, it's probably Goof Troop for the SNES. I can handle games like Ghosts N' Goblins, and R-Type, and other games like that, but for some reason, I can't get past a certain point in Goof Troop. Enemies end up killing me : /

[deadcoat]

The hardest games for me or at least the most diffucult to control are:
tombraider 3 for playstion could not get out of that cavern right at the beginning . Plus weird controls.
Silent Hill for psx weird button configuration.
Blade for psx could not hit anything right next to the cops you are to shoot and still miss them.

[Darkest Days]

Darius Twin - NES
This one pissed me off to no end. I found myself having to use the extra lives cheat more than I wanted.

Sega Rally 2 - Dreamcast
This game is insanely difficult in later races in the Career mode (I think that's what it was called). The last race in the 10th year had be throwing my controllers at the wall.

Ikaruga - Dreamcast
"Difficult" does not to begin to describe how hard this game gets after the third or fourth stage. It's been almost two years since I've been playing it, and I STILL haven't beaten it yet.

Viewtiful Joe - Gamecube
The first half of the game is challenging, but the second half is just insane. Some of the puzzles involving your super speed and your "bullet-time" are just ridiculous.

WipeOut XL - PlayStation
I forgot the name of the secret racing league you could unlock, but it was damn near impossible to beat if you didn't have godlike reflexes and an unblinking eye. I gave up in disgust and never played again.


Those are the only games I can remember.

[Ending]

Viewtiful Joe - Gamecube
The first half of the game is challenging, but the second half is just insane. Some of the puzzles involving your super speed and your "bullet-time" are just ridiculous.
I know what you mean and I own this game. Especially the last boss is pain in the arse, being invincible 95% of time and spewing damage to full-screen. When you get a chance to damage him, it usually is only a brief period and if taken too far chomps half of your HP. Then there is this shark-boss that regenerates in insane rate (absolutely loathe it).

[Superchop]

Eternal Champions and Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Dark Side on the Genesis and Sega-CD. This is what I think are the two hardest fighting games in existence. It's been eight years now, and I'm still playing on the easiest difficulty. The sad thing about it is that you still get your ass regularly handed to you, even on the easiest difficulty. Not only that, but if you ever advance past the first stage, if you lose any stage after that, you go back a stage, and have to play past your previous battle again. Oh, the frustration... (Despite the ridiculous difficulty, it still is one of the best fighting games I have ever played - I just keep coming back to it for its excellent characters and involving storyline, not to mention that the numerous multiplayer battle and tournament modes rule.)

Lol, i feel your pain...although the main NORMAL person i have the most trouble with is Shadow...she's just a cheap bitch -_- but yeah...all of those people you fight are nothing compared to the Eternal Champion...

he has 5!!! forms...and they all tougher then all the normal people put together...and when you beat 1 he transorms and regains full life...while you only get half your life refilled...and when (not if) you lose it's game over...or at least i remember it being gameover...

I managed to beat that game once...with a character i just picked for the hell of it...i really would've liked beating the game with my favorite char...but that aint happenning anytime soon

[Yuiichi]

Hrmm... pretty much all of the older megaman games drove me insane... especially the Collecters Edition (10th year of MM) for the PS1. Lol, i'm just not good a platform games.

[Remian]

Has anyone here said Ninja Gaiden(XBox)???

That game is impossible and extremely hard. That game angerd me to no end . eventually I restarted my file, but I am still having trouble...

[Sailor Enlil]

Has anyone here said Ninja Gaiden(XBox)???

That game is impossible and extremely hard. That game angerd me to no end . eventually I restarted my file, but I am still having trouble...

Ditto. I can't even HIT the first boss.

Other games I considered the hardest to play:
Max Payne
Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix Series (but I still played because I'm a huge F1 fan, and playing them made me really appreciate what F1 drivers go through on race weekend - one full race of 77 laps is GRUELLING)
Tokimeki Memorial (hehe yep I tried it, the SNES version, with some help from a walkthrough. Still wondering how the heck to win Shiori even after meeting her "requirements" and bringing her to the blushing stage because someone else shows up at the tree)

[DarkCntry]

Old school...Battletoads :0

[Gevurah]

I thought Gradius was really really hard. Especially playing that thing alone...

Are you talking about Lifeforce with the simultaneous play? That game was extreme...

Battletoads sucked too, I couldn't pass that damn snake level.

Final Fantasy 1 was extremely hard. The last boss always wasted my mages.

Top Gear for the SNES. After the third race, I ate it big.

Rad Racer sucked big, well not the gameplay anyways. I could never beat that level in Greece or whatever it was with the pillars.

Super Mario Bros (NES)... For years I could not beat it, until I played it on my 18th birthday, then, out of a stroke of luck... I finally beat Bowser. Stupid hammers.

LOL, and of course, World Class Track Meet with the power pad. Cheetah is a bitch if you're trying to play fair and square with your feet. It's not a real victory when you got 2 of your friends pounding away at the pad while you are pounding your feet at a million stomps per second. :D

[Dante]

All of the Ninja Gaiden games, 1, 2, 3, and the XBox version.

[Wisely]

Final Fantasy 1, requires lots of leveling
Myst series, totally no clue on how to solve the puzzles...

[jaexyn]

No laughing but......Smurfs for the Colecovision! Couldn't jump the fourth gate for some ungodly reason :frustrated:

Weeeee, first post d^.^b

[zalas]

I dunno if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Kanoso, a parody of the game Kanon is probably the hardest game I've ever played. Most of the routes are bad endings, and it is very easy to make a mistake and not realize it until much later ;)

[gunners2787]

try DOOM3... i don't know whether it is just me or what... i kinda shivers when I'm playing all alone in my living room with only few lights on and i have my speakers almost to maximum level just to hear what the hell some of the PDA got to say.. so it's kinda hard for you to aim properly because all of a sudden... you walk and walk and POOF a 2 legged freak came out in front of you and started throwing fire balls at you... everytime i played that game my heart beats almost twice as fast as i normally do and i shiver... hwhahaha just my leg... but i rather if it is like CS:condition zero.. you know.. you could on your flashlights and at the same time you held your guns... Doom3 is like Flashlight or Gun... oh yea.... this is the part i think is the most interesting one.... during gameplay... you're suddenly "IN" to some world that you don't know... you can hear creepy voices whispering "Over heeeere....":uhoh: oo that freaks me out! 3 - 4 hrs a day of DOOM 3 ... and at last i managed to finish it...wahaha

[FlyByNite]

No laughing but......Smurfs for the Colecovision! Couldn't jump the fourth gate for some ungodly reason :frustrated:

Weeeee, first post d^.^b

haha. I had the colecovision so I remember playing it when I was like 6 years old.

I didn't think Ninja Gaiden on the X-box was too bad after the horseback guys and then the hoseback boss (who was friggin insane to beat) but after that I don't think I faced any boss more then twice.


But hardest game ever? ET the Extraterrestrial on the Atari. The game was hard because it had no damn point to it. You'd fly up out of the cavern maybe see some guy chasing you in a cloud, fall back down. Every once in awhile there'd be a flower down there.

I remember reading that the company that made it had to rush it out for Christmas so it wasn't finished, had a lot of bugs and they made so many copies they ended up burrying tens of thousands of them in the desert... :heh:

[AnAlPedoFileMan]

ET couldnt be beat because of sum dumb glitch after u get stuck in this one hole. but yeah this game was rushed. like 6 weeks rushed...

[jaexyn]

I remember reading that the company that made it had to rush it out for Christmas so it wasn't finished, had a lot of bugs and they made so many copies they ended up burrying tens of thousands of them in the desert...

Haha! I guess that's one way to get rid of the rest of them. Was the company run by mobsters out of Vegas or something? :uhoh:

Still, I remember that I've played ET, but don't remember anything about it. Ah well....

[Proto]

F15 Strike Eagle by Micropose for NES...

Double Dragon 3 was an overall a game with decent difficulty, though I could never beat the last boss in Egypt.... I swear I kept giving him thornado kicks (or however they are called) and doing the fat guy banzai's to no avail >.<

Zelda 2 was quite a hard game when i first played it back when is was released, however when I tried it again 3 years later I only found some resistance with the second last boss (first to figure out you needed to thunder him and then attack with no magic at all :p)

Hmmm.... maybe the first Simpsom game as well... but it was mainly because i never figured out what to do at the last stage (the power plant)

In the new generation I've never encountered a really difficult game, maybe just the second Lufia for SNES (though it wasn't that hard) and.... some selected stages of Starcraft, but that's it

[baka manko]

hehe i remember et. i was like 10 at the time i was like wtf is the point.. lol
for me i think it was river ransom for nes i dont think i ever beat it

[Neophos]

Tetris, Pacman, Centipede, Super Off road.....

I have never finished any of them XD

[Racheal]

Penguin Adventure....who can forget that tune. Stuck in my head for years.

[Juggercaut]

Hey, I just a few days ago downloaded the penguin adventure, mappy and ballon fight... I just feel like remembering the games I hated...

If you ask me about something hard, hell... BEAT THE DARK DEMON, THE TRUE LAST ENEMY OF DEMON CREST...

don't u know it? ok, give it a try, the password is:

QFFF
KNRR
DDLR
XGTQ

Not even with the help of an emu a friend of mine who ended Ninja gaiden (any of 'em) in less than 15 Min. could beat it...

[Dempsey_Roll]

the hardest it would be victorious boxers 2 from ps2. the hajime no ippo game. the arcade mode act 5, last boss, ricardo martinez... it take me over 50 tries before i beat him.. a few of his punches will bring your boxer down.

[Cornel]

The Double Dragon games and the Battle Toad games were hard to beat, but I think I will give the mark over to BT as it lead to cooperation that didn't work. Like trying to get health when one member has gotten the last three because of an emergency (ie. bad playing); yes, fighting against your teammate was encouraged.
Joe and Mac was also hard for the same reason. Most platforms I think are the hardest games. At certain spots, you have to be precise.

A difficult freeware I have played, that can be found legally at www.gamehippo.com, is N. It is a platform where you are a ninja that wall jumps and avoids traps and weapons to get coins and switch locks. This game really gets people to get the best route for the player and this can sometimes take a lot of experimenting. Also, you cannot destroy your enemies.

TMNT is a hard game, and I hate the music that goes along with all of the crappy experiences (running out of air, health, dying). I didn't do all too good with the game, but at least I could defeat the water level, which i bet is still early on in the game.

Also many sports games were impossible on the NES without any manual. These games usually consisted of many unusual games that needed a completely new system of controls. California Games and Skate or Die are examples.

[EV|RockLee]

Contra III

[Fel]

Super Mario Land was really hard for me when I was six or seven, especially those resurrecting ninja-things in the...fourth world. They were awful. I was almost in tears when I finally beat it. :)

Metroid is pretty friggin' hard too, and I never played that until a couple years ago. I still can't get anywhere because I end up throwing the controller away after fifteen minutes.

[Narona]

Megaman 1 and Burai Fighter on NES (via emulator)

I remember when someone at school told me that the NES games were hard, and so he gave me some games and emulators. I expected some games to be hard, but not THAT hard O_o

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Blaster Master - Every part of this game was hard and to top it off there were no save points or passwords.

Contra - Play this without the life code and you have one of the most frustrating games ever. I'm confident there is no one on earth who can possibly come close to beating the game without the code.

Ghost n Goblins - ridiculous amounts of strong enemies and the crapiest sword and armor to fight them with and you got yourself one difficult game.

Mega Man - Pretty selfexplanatory. Its just a hard game in general.

Gauntlet - THis game never ended and it just kept getting harder and harder. The game was really about how many levels you could survive for rather than completing it.

[RAVNEN]

Contra: Every Contra game is very difficult & make me angry.:frustrated:

Mega Man : I still does'nt understand why those goons create this game,I bet
the developer don't even finish the game.

Super Mario : Every Mario game is a pain in the ass.Period.

[Noe]

Star Ocean: Til the End of Time (played on the highest difficulty, I think it was called the '4th Dimension'?)

[Quarkboy]

Contra - Play this without the life code and you have one of the most frustrating games ever. I'm confident there is no one on earth who can possibly come close to beating the game without the code.


I have personally beaten Contra on a real NES without the life code, back when I was around 9. I only managed it twice and spent literally a week practicing.

On the other hand, if me and my cousin played 2-player, we beat the game a couple of times without the life code that way (also by utilizing the ability for one player to give the other one of his lives strategically).

Original contra is not THAT bad at all if you have the stages memorized, and there are only 6 of them. Then again, once you loose the spread weapon things get really dicey until you can get it back.

[HayashiTakara]

I'd have to say the original Ninja Turtles game for NES.

[Sheep]

It's the case with most of the "old and ridiculously hard" games. Once you know how to do it, it's easy, but you don't tell anyone because it looks so damn impressive : >

[HayashiTakara]

Theres a lot of games in the past that were "hard" because of bad controls. I don't really consider them hard, just archaic.

[Sheep]

Theres a lot of games in the past that were "hard" because of bad controls. I don't really consider them hard, just archaic.

Castlevania comes to mind. I tried it after hearing so many good things about it, but just couldn't get myself to play it further than the first or second boss because of the awkward jumps and slow character.

[Js2756]

Some of the games mentioned I've actually beaten.

A lot of people mentioned 7th Saga for SNES, but I beat that. The trick is to have a character that can cast buffs. If you don't you will not beat the game, period. The game sucked in that you had to let your enemies have a free turn to do anything resembling decent damage though (defend first, then attack, it greatly increases your damage on that attack). Beat the game with a priest / dwarf party.

Super Mario Bros. :the Lost Levels (aka Super Mario Bros. 2 in japan) - only beat the Lost levels version because you can save after each stage and go restock on lives in earlier stages. Some of the later stages (letter stages) are absolutely retarded. Blind jumps onto pipes with pirahna plants for example, you had to watch the timer and time the jumps so that the plant wouldn't be out to survive.

Bahamut Lagoon: the trick is, once you reach a certain point, your human characters do way more damage than your dragons, so you have to use them to kill bosses, but you need to use your dragons as tanks to absorb damage. Oh, and your main red dragon becomes invincible once it reaches its final form.

Some of Cave's shmups are borderline impossible on the hardest difficulty; looking at Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 on Ultra. Although I think that Cave has recently been pulling back a bit on the difficulty (see Death Smiles, I made it to the last stage on like my 5th try, and I'm not very good at shmups, especially horizontal ones).

[BigJimmy]

I wanna be the Guy! (http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/) Sweet Jesus on a stick it's hard. Deliberatly so, since it's basically a homage to all those evil games of yesteryear.

[Telmah]

I found the Utawarerumono game to be really hard--once you play through the story once, wow did it get difficult. It was very tactical, where making one wrong move could force you to reset the level. Especially if they pinned down Eruuruu and she couldn't heal herself! Bleh!

[Narona]

Contra - Play this without the life code and you have one of the most frustrating games ever. I'm confident there is no one on earth who can possibly come close to beating the game without the code.

Is Probotector a version of Contra? I did a search and Contra seems quite similar to a game I played on NES emulator (probotector), but with Robots as characters....

I'd have to say the original Ninja Turtles game for NES.
I also tried to play to this game, and I never successed to pass the Level 3 :heh:

Castlevania comes to mind. I tried it after hearing so many good things about it, but just couldn't get myself to play it further than the first or second boss because of the awkward jumps and slow character.
The Castlevania games on NES are TOO hard for me :heh:

[Urei]

I'd say Ikaruga. I've played it only a couple of times but it was extremely hard at some points. Other then Ikaruga I'd say that most Japanese shooters are challenging.

[Narona]

I'd say Ikaruga. I've played it only a couple of times but it was extremely hard at some points. Other then Ikaruga I'd say that most Japanese shooters are challenging.
I have this game on Gamecube! Great game :)

[Urei]

I have this game on Gamecube! Great game :)

It really is. Nice graphics and the fact you can play with your friend :heh: This doesn't make it easier though. Once you get in a tight spot your done for. No mercy :heh:

[Kaioshin Sama]

Well I define two kinds of hard. There's "broken hard" wherein it's completely the games own poor programming that makes it so hard and "actual hard" which is when the game is specifically designed to be challenging. Many games that people consider hard are actually among the former in my opinion.

Anyway, if we are talking broken hard then it's probably something like Transformers: Convoy no Nazo on the Famicom which only gives you one hit and three lives and then it's game over and back to stat. It also makes it nearly impossible for you to control or avoid anything so good luck getting anywhere in it.

For actual hard I'd say Fire Emblem V: Thracia 776, which throws just about every single aspect of the game in the enemy sides favour, but is still playable and beatable at that. Just really hard and actually requires you to use some strategy.

[Jaden]

Homeworld and it's sequels+expansion were probably the hardest I played...in a sensible way. As in it needed advanced tactics, micro- and macromanagement to beat.

In other game's single player campaigns like age of empires, red alert and warcraft games you could go far with just building, researching and training troops in the right order, and if there was a hard mission, you could get by with luck or exploiting the AI's failings. Homeworld is clearly a step up in difficulty from those games. Your fleet, research etc. would be saved from previous missions, so on the "easy" missions the game is min/maxing to perfection so your power will be saved for the hard missions. And the hard missions were desperate battles against overwhelming odds and usually against a timer.
For me I guess it was the optimal amount of challenge, I could barely beat the games before retry counts would go ungodly high and I'd get frustrated.

Yeah, difficulty often boils down to how much practice you need before you can get it right, and I think Homeworld had the highest ratio I could tolerate.

[Knowledge Seeker]

Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne is the hardest game I've ever played. I loved playing it but I had to get used to getting my butt kicked after every boss battle. Ah well, I'll come back to that game someday.

[Saki_chan]

I found FF6 to be incredibly difficult, but I don't know that I'd call it the hardest game I've ever played. I think that older games are a lot harder than anyone realizes, like the Mario games on the NES.

[Cinocard]

Those stupid Japan arcade shooting game. Mushihimesama, Touhou and the like...

[Saki_chan]

Those stupid Japan arcade shooting game. Mushihimesama, Touhou and the like...

Ohh, yeah, those things are pretty intense. I can never win at those damn things.

Theres a lot of games in the past that were "hard" because of bad controls. I don't really consider them hard, just archaic.

I've always felt that the Guilty Gear series could fall into that category. Awesome characters, but the gameplay is so awkward that it's hard to get into it.

[C.A.]

Guilty Gear is just a more advanced 2D fighter, specially designed for hardcore Japanese fighting gamers. Its just so high speed, everytime I play it with my friends its an adrenaline rush lol

You need to have a good history on fighting games to soften the learning curve. Once you get it, Guilty Gear is easily the best fighting game around at higher level play.

And GG doesn't have bad controls at all, probably because I'm used to it.

My hardest game seems to be Touhou 11, the first Touhou that I got into as well lol. I can only get to stage 3 on normal mode lol

Even though I've played lots of SRPGs, Knights in the Nightmare was a real Nightmare for me, probably because I don't have enough time for games lately so I didn't have time to understand its complex systems.

[Narona]

Those stupid Japan arcade shooting game. Mushihimesama, Touhou and the like...
I would want to try some japanese aracade shotting games *____*

Even if I am not good at playing shoot 'em up :meh:

[HayashiTakara]

Those shooting games are retarded difficult. One hit dead and theres bullets missiles and enemies covering the entire screen.

[Narona]

Those shooting games are retarded difficult. One hit dead and theres bullets missiles and enemies covering the entire screen.
Yeah, the bullets curtain, but from what I've heard, the trick is that only the "center" of the spaceship (when you play as a spaceship) can be hit. That type of shoot em up is called Manic Shooters IIRC.

[Js2756]

Yeah, the bullets curtain, but from what I've heard, the trick is that only the "center" of the spaceship (when you play as a spaceship) can be hit. That type of shoot em up is called Manic Shooters IIRC.

In Japan they're known as danmaku (which I believe, literally translates to bullet curtain). Generally, the english term for them is bullet hell.

@C.A. The hardest Touhou shmup (IMO) is Story of Eastern Wonderland (Touhou 2). This game is flat out unforgiving even on easy. While Subterranean Animism is certainly a return to a more difficult Touhou, I don't think it is quite as difficult as SoEW. I still find the CAVE shmups to be more difficult though.

Going to throw out Shoot the Bullet (Touhou 9.5) as quite possibly the hardest game I've played. Far and away the hardest Touhou game (although it is technically not a shmup).

[greatpower2]

Mine would have to be in this order.

1. Contra 4 ( I only beat it on easy

2. Megaman X

3. Megaman X 4

4. Sin & Punishment

I left out any I haven't beaten 3 levels in it yet. I played Ninja gaiden 2 once and it would be #1 if I could get through anything

[Grif]

a little game called "Radio Zonde"

Probably the most intense game i have ever played, but i havent played mushihimesama yet.

[Cinocard]

Anyway, those danmaku games are retardly hard for amateur. That's why it's arcard game :rolleyes:

Mushihimesama bosses bullet pattern are the hardest. But of course it makes little difference since you have to learn it by heart anyway. What matter is normal minions, in which touhou is harder.
I would want to try some japanese aracade shotting games *____*

Even if I am not good at playing shoot 'em up :meh:

It's more like: "run for your life" :heh:

[kenjiharima]

old 8bit nes.

Karateka!!!

[Quarkboy]

I have personally beaten Contra on a real NES without the life code, back when I was around 9. I only managed it twice and spent literally a week practicing.

On the other hand, if me and my cousin played 2-player, we beat the game a couple of times without the life code that way (also by utilizing the ability for one player to give the other one of his lives strategically).

Original contra is not THAT bad at all if you have the stages memorized, and there are only 6 of them. Then again, once you loose the spread weapon things get really dicey until you can get it back.

Okay, since I posted the reply above claiming that Contra wasn't that hard, I decided to break out my trusty emulator and give it a go.

At first I was definitely rusty, but after maybe 2-3 hours of practice I beat the thing only having to continue 1 once. Another 2 play throughs and I now beat it without having to continue starting with the usual 2 extra lives. I actually ended up with 3 extra lives left at the end.

As I started above, once you've memorized the enemy placements and where the spread weapon is, the game is a cinch. I can now consistently beat it every time.

Then again, I'm also good at those Japanese danmaku (bullet curtain) games, so maybe this sort of game fits my personality.

[Narona]

It's more like: "run for your life" :heh:Even so, I would want to play to those games, at least once :D .

I know I will die in 30 sec, but still :D

Okay, since I posted the reply above claiming that Contra wasn't that hard, I decided to break out my trusty emulator and give it a go.

At first I was definitely rusty, but after maybe 2-3 hours of practice I beat the thing only having to continue 1 once. Another 2 play throughs and I now beat it without having to continue starting with the usual 2 extra lives. I actually ended up with 3 extra lives left at the end.

As I started above, once you've memorized the enemy placements and where the spread weapon is, the game is a cinch. I can now consistently beat it every time.

Then again, I'm also good at those Japanese danmaku (bullet curtain) games, so maybe this sort of game fits my personality.
Congrats :) !

I am so bad at those games XD

[Grif]

im sure you could play a couple on MAME *cough*

Dodonpachi was quite hard, very fun though.

[Narona]

im sure you could play a couple on MAME *cough*

Dodonpachi was quite hard, very fun though.
True, but I want to play at those arcade games IRL :heehee: . I should check if the arcade centers in Paris have some ^^

[Sides]

Is Probotector a version of Contra? I did a search and Contra seems quite similar to a game I played on NES emulator (probotector), but with Robots as characters....

Same game, but we in paland don't like blood in videogames during the 80s/90s, i think a big issue was and still is german's hardline youth protection policy. But contra/probotector isn't that hard once you figure out how to play it. Then again it was ported, more or less, form the arcade game, and like most arcade game it was build to drain the coins from your pocket.

[Alpha Centauri]

wait...... can ninja gaiden be placed here? if so, ninja gaiden 2.

[Ryuugu-chan]

Donkey Kong.

I played that on Animal Crossing and..What the heck?!
I finished the first level after like 4 tries,and I couldn't figure out lv 2.

..If that doesn't count,then I choose Super Mario Sunshine.
That game...The levels where that little Bowser takes away your..Thing,are horrible.

[Narzia]

Donkey Kong.

I played that on Animal Crossing and..What the heck?!
I finished the first level after like 4 tries,and I couldn't figure out lv 2.

..If that doesn't count,then I choose Super Mario Sunshine.
That game...The levels where that little Bowser takes away your..Thing,are horrible.

There was a Donkey Kong mini-game in Donkey Kong 64, which i never could finish (but you had to, to get to the ultimate final boss).

And those levels where Bowser Jr. took away your Fludd were the only think i really liked about Sunshine, as it felt more... Mario than the rest of the game. ^^

[GreatTeacherKen]

Probably Super Mario Bros. Lost Levels or the Japanese Super Mario Bros. 2. The only Mario game that I've found geniunely difficult though Super Mario Bros. 3 and World had their moments.

[Aquillion]

Obviously "I Wanna Be the Guy (http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/)" is now the correct answer.

[Schnitzel]

Minesweeper!!!....

[Brave_Vesperia]

is the "World's Hardest Game" on armorgames.com

[Nukerjsr]

Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2

I have beaten every song on the hardest difficulty. And for anyone who has played Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents, the slightest mistake in the the harder songs can result in instant death.

S Ranking on Sekai wa Sore o Ai to Yobundaze; but A Ranking on Samurai Blue

[Spectacular_Insanity]

For me, it would be Rainbow Six 3. I would say I'm fairly good at FPS's, but this one I couldn't even get past the first mission, which is pathetic, I know. I actually found the other Rainbow Six games (such as Las Vegas) to be enjoyable and way easier for some reason, but that one had me crying tears of frustration because I just kept screwing up. Okay, it wasn't really that bad, but after ten tries of the first level without success, I rented a different game (using cheat codes would be retarded).

[Sailor Enlil]

If only one level of a game counts, I'd include one level of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - that event race where you use a Ferrari F40 to overtake all cars in one lap at Suzuka is IMPOSSIBLE for me :( (can't even get past half the field!), and that's while using a good Steering Wheel (a Logitech G25)!

[Satsuki Yuuhi Ramius]

Alundra 2 and Minesweeper

[RenaFuura]

Animal crossing DS and Pokemon

[Irenicus]

Minesweeper expert level. It's evil, I tell you! There's just a point where logic becomes impossible and you're given the chance of choosing a 50/50 choice or worse with luck alone to guide you.

90% of the time, you would choose the wrong choice. Especially if you're getting close to finishing it. :uhoh:

[Shadow Kira01]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/all/boxshots2/921639_67522.jpg

I just bought Mobile Suit Gundam Seed: Never Ending Tomorrow and found the controls to be very different in comparison with other Gundam games. The lock-on targetting function needs serious improvement, I can't even see where the enemy mobile suit is. The melee function is also problematic, you can use it at ease. It is very difficult to aim, attack, and pilot. I was somewhat happy to find a copy of the game after not seeing it in stores for a few months to be entirely disappointed. Yes, the game features rare mobile suits and side-stories, but the controls are terrible!!!

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/289/reviews/921639_20051017_thumb023.jpg

[Kaioshin Sama]

Okay, Call of Duty 4 on Veteran get's pretty freaking hard at times. It must have taken me 40-50 tries to get through the TV Station part of Charlie Don't Surf. You're literally forced to walk into an ambush with RPG guys and 'Nade throwers everywhere and the computers and desks and whatever in the room just get ripped to shreds in like the first 3 seconds. You pretty much die in 2-3 hits and the enemies just keep spawning so your only option is to run to a side room, thin the herd for about a minute and then make a mad dash to the area you need to get to while praying you can take out the last few enemies with what little cover there is. By about try number 20 I was pretty much shouting at my TV each time a stray bullet hit me going "WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT DO YOU WANT?!" :frustrated:

For a look at just how much BS I was up against here's a Youtube video of it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZb1Y5-TarI). So many choke points it's not even funny. No wonder the S.A.S characters said the American's were walking into a death trap.....

[sa547]

For the first time I played and finished AC6 on Normal... but this isn't the Normal difficulty setting I ever known in playing Ace Combat! Estovakians throw so much to bring my plane down, sometimes even when calling up ally support. As if it wasn't enough, either that command cruiser, the Strigon fighters or the CFA-44 Nosferatu tries to spam with much firepower. Madness!

[Claies]

Okay, Call of Duty 4 on Veteran get's pretty freaking hard at times. It must have taken me 40-50 tries to get through the TV Station part of Charlie Don't Surf. You're literally forced to walk into an ambush with RPG guys and 'Nade throwers everywhere and the computers and desks and whatever in the room just get ripped to shreds in like the first 3 seconds. You pretty much die in 2-3 hits and the enemies just keep spawning so your only option is to run to a side room, thin the herd for about a minute and then make a mad dash to the area you need to get to while praying you can take out the last few enemies with what little cover there is. By about try number 20 I was pretty much shouting at my TV each time a stray bullet hit me going "WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT DO YOU WANT?!" :frustrated:

For a look at just how much BS I was up against here's a Youtube video of it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZb1Y5-TarI). So many choke points it's not even funny. No wonder the S.A.S characters said the American's were walking into a death trap.....

Oh wow. That room gets torn up right after the guy runs into the closet.

And then on the level after that you're trying to shoot what must have been the entire world of soldiers (around seven spawnpoints) from a nearly uncovered construction site with two light machine gunners (spawning) going through the windows on the right, and sometimes RPGs on the roof. The really ugly thing is that enemies go in that building and up the stairs, so there may or may not be some hiding in the first floor. If so and you didn't grenade the area correctly, you're dead before you get to the stairs, because you almost couldn't stop there to shoot anything.

And I wasn't even on Veteran.

After some arbitrary number of tries between 10 and 15, I went up to the second floor and found around 18 machine guns for pickup. Too bad I don't like them anyway.

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On another note, Starcraft AI is actually pretty bullshit. I was playing on Easy and the AI expanded extremely aggressively. I was on a losing defense when I gave up.

[-Sho-]

Me it was RESIDENT EVIL : OUTBREAK !! It was hard ! No ammo , each character differrent diffilculty , very small inventory (just the little girl have a bag ) , if blocked and return in the previous place : Zombies respawn omg !And a bit later "ZOMBIES FREAKING SCARIEST BADASS" will come ...

[Golden Witch Drugs]

Hmm... I had some hard times on Rule of Rose with the pig imps -.- And I was so frickin scared all the time! Yup, it has to be Rule of Rose... Or expert on Guitar Hero -.- That's madness O_O

[-RK-]

Duck Hunt. Have you ever beaten Duck Hunt?

[tehjoker]

Prince of Persia SNES was one of the hardest games I ever played.

[Mei19]

Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2. All because I can't beat Sephiroth. It was frustrating for me.:heh:

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Duck Hunt. Have you ever beaten Duck Hunt?

I have. It's not very hard. It's called AIM. Use it. :p

[niwasatou]

What. Minesweeper is easy.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Q-bert on the A-2600.

Actually a lot of the old retro games were pretty damn hard.

[Crimson Cloud]

I don't know, there are a lot of games that I played where, when switched to hard difficulty or expert or something similar, becomes so hard that is sometimes quite unplayable. I'll choose one that I played a few months back that was quite challenging, it was Ninja Gaiden 1 & 2.

[Amray]

I am finding Resident Evil 4 extremely hard to this point, from the day that I got it. I started the game on the 'Normal' difficulty and I had no experience at playing the game whatsoever. I always tend to do that but this game is proving the most difficult for me.

I also think that Final Fantasy XII is quite difficult too, especially when compared to the previous ones. They all had their different difficulties although Final Fantasy XII is still very hard even during parts of the beginning.

[Grif]

What. Minesweeper is easy.

I second this.

I have some pretty decent minesweeper times:

155 seconds - expert
53 seconds - inter
8 seconds - begginner

I cant go much faster than that though. Im not that great but i think they are respectable xD.

I still think "radio zonde" is about the hardest game i have ever played.

[Gamma Kaio]

mines would probably be megamanX Command Mission
it has some hardest bosses like the rhino and the one after that
i just decided to play it yesterday

[Appletart]

Alundra for the PSX

That game was hard...

[Oyajitchi]

My first video game that I ever played was extremely hard at the time, Super Mario 64.

Now I can beat it with every star in one day but I will never forget how hard it was when I first played it.

[Cub-Sama]

Zelda will always be one of the hardest for me, now I know Ocarina of Time stages like the back of my hand.

GoW 1 and 2 on Insane, even in multiplayer the enemies are too hard

[One_To_Protect]

I am horrible when it comes to playings games becuase I never finish them T.T Quite sad isn't it? lol The hardest game I played and actually finished was Left 4 Dead. I was constently getting ate by them darn zombies. I have nightmares about them now.

[nines]

Mine would have to be Reign of Fire for ps2.....second level its impossible seriously....

[Ryuugu-chan]

I wanna be that guy,that game is a horror zone.

Kingdom Hearts 1..No,really.

I entered the Tarzan place,I seeemed to have done everything,but I don't know what else to do,I'm missing stuff I know.

The Alice in Wonderland part,I have no idea how to get through the door..

Maybe I'll play that game again,new game.

[One_To_Protect]

Ya never finished Kindom Hearts, I do not even remember what part I am even at in the game.

[The God of Summons]

Battletoads for the NES was a tough one, and I couldnt really kill the final boss of Super Spy Hunter also for the NES.

[RDFMASTER]

Yeah Zelda II was rough. I remember when I was in.....I think I was in 3rd grade. I had a baby sitter over one night and I was fighting my way through the desert palace. I actually got pretty far in the game before I gave up. I finally beat it a couple years ago with the aid of an emulator. Man, that final boss was tough!

Please don't remind me my nightmare is so hard that monster I take over one week to beat it.

[plmko]

Double Dragon II on the NES, if you ever get the chance to play this and also happen to be playing with a friend, whatever you do DO NOT CHOOSE game B.

[Quarkboy]

Double Dragon II on the NES, if you ever get the chance to play this and also happen to be playing with a friend, whatever you do DO NOT CHOOSE game B.

Game B caused me and my cousin to refuse to speak to each other for a week when I was like 9.

[kingsky123]

On another note, Starcraft AI is actually pretty bullshit. I was playing on Easy and the AI expanded extremely aggressively. I was on a losing defense when I gave up.

have you tried actual online battles? their far... far.... worse.

[Yagami-kun]

hardest game i played was probably Resident Evil 4, tho tbh i think i was too busy shitting myself to play properly haha

[Lizard]

I wanna be the Guy is a freeware platformer game which whole point is being ridiculously sadistically over-the-top hard so all your friends that watch you playing it can point at you and laugh...

Touhou games are also quite hard, but that may be just me sucking at danmaku, and being too proud to switch it into Easy Mode:heh:

Hard and Brutal Ai in Red Alert 3 is surprisingly hard, especially if you play as Empire of Rising Sun against that Allied AI commander specialized in air rushing. Also beating Air Rush as EoRS is generally ridiculously hard

[klowny]

Zelda Master Quest, one of the hardest game's I've played because of the sand temple was it? well the desert sucked :heh:

[Aquillion]

Double Dragon II on the NES, if you ever get the chance to play this and also happen to be playing with a friend, whatever you do DO NOT CHOOSE game B.But that's the best part! I have fond memories of playing River City Ransom with friends, with "friendly fire" turned on, constantly smacking each other in the back of the head to grab the other person's weapon... or unleashing fists of fury on a big group of opponents with my friend in the middle glaring at me...

[darkfreya]

kingdom hearts 1 and resident evil i keep being eaten by zombies

[rogerpepitone]

There was a good thing about friendly fire mode on DD2: If you knocked off his last life bar, you'd get an extra life. Then let him kill you, and everyone's healed without losing a life.

[frubam]

The ORIGINAL Legend of Zelda. Nothing is harder than trying to find dungeons that are hidden beneath regular trees and side of mountains and getting absolutely NO hint whatsoever to where they were, not to mention how much dmg you took from normal hits. There was no mention of having to need to get the silver arrows, your weapons, swords, or nothing.

[Edgewalker]

Snk vs Capcom ultimate Mugen.

its a fighting game made with MUGEN using all the "best" AI scripts made for the characters.

[Kazu]

DMD in Devil may cry 1,heck i'm not even there yet cause i'm having a hard time beating it on hard mode

[Tempester]

Super Mario 64.

[H23]

Contra. 'Nuff said.




without cheats of course ;)

[Gaia]

Ragnarok Online

You have to invest thousands of hours for max. end equip and max. level.

[Cinocard]

If you are talking about MMORPG, there are games that you can never get to the max...

[Kusa-San]

The hardest ? I think it's Gradius 5 :heh:

[Shadow_maste]

Megaman on NES, and Megaman Zero. Yeah, only MegaMan kicked my ass. :\

[Amray]

Mario Party 8

......

I was joking. One of the most difficult games is definitely Project Zero. Although the only reason that I do not proceed further into that game is because I am too scared.

[Kusa-San]

Although the only reason that I do not proceed further into that game is because I am too scared.[/COLOR]

Then it's not difficult but scary :heh:

[Crusader]

Megaman Zero definitly ranks high up there for me.

Any of the Xenosaga games in terms of Rpgs. I mean it took me several hours to beat some of the bosses in those games. One regular boss took me three hours before i beat.

The Castlevania's were pretty tough too.

[Amray]

Then it's not difficult but scary :heh:

Yes, you are correct. Although the reason that I find it difficult to play is because I am too scared. Thus it makes it difficult to me.

I know I am twisting the meaning of the question, but it does still somewhat make sense.

[ezara]

Megaman on NES, and Megaman Zero. Yeah, only MegaMan kicked my ass. :\

It was 1989. It was just me, some gummy bears and alot of Coca-Cola. I spent six hours on one Saturday playing MegaMan 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6v1vypgRnM).

Eventually, I beat it.

To this day, I don't think I ever played a tougher game.

[Tjfarmer]

Mario Party 8

......

I was joking. One of the most difficult games is definitely Project Zero. Although the only reason that I do not proceed further into that game is because I am too scared.

I Love the Zero/Fatal Frame/Project Zero series, they're hella fun. Only played games 2 and 3 though, waiting for fourth one to be published outside of Japan. They're actually easy if you get past the scare factor.

Currently, hardest game I've ever played was Resident Evil 4. Even though you're meant to die, I still find it hard.