Angel Beats! - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[Crontica]

Omg it's already here! Pinch me~~

[pampz21]

can't w8 for it to release in the internet!

[Arbitres]

Omg it's already here! Pinch me~~

*pinch* ^_^ Yeah. It's here already. Damn this is going to be good. :3

[Knightrunner]

Make sure to summaries what happen in the story since I vowed not to watch this episode until I finish my history critique.:( But I didn't vow to read the spoilers. :)

[Hypernova]

From the spoiler pics so far the shadow turn ppl into NPC's. And the glasses guy was the first victim.

GDM is in a rather sad state
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WINGS!
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[panzerfan]

Joke of the moment on Futaba:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2346/haruhi.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/haruhi.jpg/)

[blitz1/2]

Joke of the moment on Futaba:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2346/haruhi.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/haruhi.jpg/)

But at least Yuri looks cool and as a leader while doing it, whereas Haruhi looks like a b*tch.

[Ice Block]

Whoa! This ep was amazingly fast-paced. Action packed, a fair amount of exposition, and just lots of stuff happening -- but it all just went by pretty fast.

Ep11 Summary:
Disclaimer: I didn't get most of what they were saying, especially during the first meeting with Kanade. The stream was also pretty crappy. Trust at your own discretion.

Episode starts with a comedy sequence between Naoi, Hinata and Otonashi. This gets broken quickly though as Naoi gets ambushed by a Shadow. Thankfully, the three managed to push it back and kill it.

After this incident, Yuri calls a quick meeting with Naoi and Kanade (and Hinata and Otonashi). They have a rather long conversation. I don't really get what they're saying, but in the end Yuri told Christ to do something with Angel Player, specifically concerning the skill Overdrive. After this meeting, they find out that there are several Shadows massing in the field, engaging a few SSS members. Kanade jumps out to help them using her new wings (which are apparently just for decoration :heh:). Yuri follows her, and Hinata and Otonashi then joins in. They defeat the shadows, and Yuri learns one important thing: the Shadows are transformed NPCs (or at least some of them are, since Naoi got attacked by his own shadow transforming into a Shadow earlier)! And then, Fujimaki arrives with bad news: Takamatsu got "taken" by a Shadow.
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A while later, someone claims that they saw Takamatsu being all fine. However, it turns out that he (Takamatsu) has been turned into an NPC, and has forgotten all his memories. This causes a lot of turmoil among the SSS core (sans Chaa, he wasn't in this Ep at all), and Yuri calls for a quick meeting. Now, it seems like Yuri already knew about Otonashi's plan about making people disappear, and she then calls on the entire SSS and gives them all orders to find inner peace and disappear before the Shadows get to them and turn them into NPCs.
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Then, Yuri calls on a last meeting with Hinata, Otonashi, Naoi and Kanade. She reveals to Otonashi that Kanade wasn't an angel all along, that she is human like the rest of the SSS, and then she goes on her own mission to fight the Shadows. She basically tells the others to not worry about her, and that she hopes she can meet them again. As of this statement, the SSS is practically disbanded. We then see everyone trying to pursue their own happiness, and find inner peace. (TK dancing, Noda holding Yuri's picture, Shiina and her cute puppies, Fujimaki contemplating, GirlDeMo calling it quits, and more)
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Then, after the credits, we see Yuri's spec ops mission. She goes into the computer lab, and finds an old man there. She suspects him as sysadmin, and they have a nice chat which ended in the old man leaving the room. Yuri then scouted around the room and found a hidden passageway into Guild. Next Ep can't come soon enough!
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[New/Old]

Huh. That's certainly a way to go about the SSS passing on thing.

[Key Board]

The final boss is... Chaa?

that would be an unexpected plot twist

[konart]

Yuri comes to some strange place with some old man hitting buttons on the keyboard to make this world last and they are chased by the shadow? Am I right?

[Key Board]

Yuri explained the situation and told everyone to find inner peace and vanish before the shadows get them ( easier said than done)

She herself wants to find the culprit. By deduction she thinks that the culprit is someone who is using Angel Player (Kanade's manual) to hack the world using one of the school computers

She infiltrates the computer lab and finds a lab tech there, but he just turns out to be an NPC.
After searching further she finds a hidden hatch that leads underground to the guild.

This means that the culprit came or had access to from the guild

Primary suspects

1) Christ: God complex. Knows about Angel Player. Proven to be versatile with a computer.
2) Chaa. Suspiciously absent. One of the longest players and has considerable knowledge about the world.
3) Someone we haven't seen yet. Possible but that would kill the drama.

[serenade_beta]

Ehh... Isn't that random and sudden... Somehow and for some reason, shadows appear and suddenly start sucking people's souls up. (Eh?)
Anyways, can't judge this ending development until I see how the anime ends everything, but I hope they don't end up creating a new setting or character just to finish up the story.

Anyways, poor Muscle-megane and every other character that never got a background story... :heh:

[Kanon]

Very good episode.

After this incident, Yuri calls a quick meeting with Naoi and Kanade (and Hinata and Otonashi). They have a rather long conversation. I don't really get what they're saying, but in the end Yuri told Christ to do something with Angel Player, specifically concerning the skill Overdrive.

She was asking Takeyama to check if there was anything wrong with the programs/skills on Kanade's computer, it has nothing to do with Overdrive in particular. It was pretty funny to learn that Kanade created the wings only for decoration because Otonashi told her it was more fitting for an angel. She didn't even think about flying :heh:

Interesting to note that Yuri apprently knew of Otonashi's recent actions all along, but didn't do anything about it. Naoi and Hinata also figured it out, and were about to form the After life gay liberation front with him before the shadows attacked. I didn't expect the shadow would turn people into NPCs. I wonder if they'll find a way to reverse the process or if Takamatsu is gone for good.

You know, I thought Otonashi had already figured out Kanade was just a normal human. He had the same hints as Yuri, as far as I remember.

Yuri comes to some strange place with some old man hitting buttons on the keyboard to make this world last and they are chased by the shadow? Am I right?

She also finds a hatch at the end of the episode.

1) Christ: God complex. Knows about Angel Player. Proven to be versatile with a computer.
2) Chaa. Suspiciously absent. One of the longest players and has considerable knowledge about the world.
3) Someone we haven't seen yet. Possible but that would kill the drama.

I'm going with Chaa for now. He has the stature to be the "final boss".

[Hypernova]

Yuri explained the situation and told everyone to find inner peace and vanish before the shadows get them ( easier said than done)

From my limited jap I think the gist is she basically told ppl to at least die as human.

While the end boss might be Chaa I just don't see why.

As for the wings it actually does work to break her fall so it's not completely useless, although Yuri and co. simply jumped without breaking their legs.

[Key Board]

If the culprit can hack the world this well, it can be assumed that he can easily disable Kanade's guard skills as well

It seems Kanade will face a great danger in the future

[rstrafford]

Lol, for any Yuri haters, did you notice that she called Kanade "Kanade-chan" before she left in the end?

[Ice Block]

I don't really see Chaa as the culprit at the end, though he is suspiciously missing. I'm thinking more that the Dark Archon merge a while back may have corrupted something. Or, it could also be that the clones did quite a lot off-camera.

[Bangirasu]

What did say Christ at the end of the episode?

My main suspect is Matsudoto 5th Dan. He has to have a strong reason for not appear during ALL the episode. Maybe he being the final villain is the main reason.

[Dark_Force9999]

If anyone cares to read my prediction, go on. It's something I am probably right about though. This episode was great too.

This episode made it became clear that, that world is not exactly a world where people would find their inner peace to pass on.

I believed that each character infact didn't died. I'm going to take a big guess: Hinata got hit by a car/truck w/e it was, but is probably still in a coma state. Otanashi passed out before the rescue came. So in the end I'm just saying each character must've not died.

Following my predictions, each character is possibly hooked into a digital world to make up the time they lost while in their coma state of some sort. The reason why I said digital world, is because of a couple thing:

1) You cannot die. Which explains miraculous recoveries.
2) Everything seems to be affect by computers.

Tachibana's abilities are made with the Angel Player software. How that actually gives supernatural abilities, is strange. NPC's turning into shadows, it had a digital effect rather than some ominous transformation.


Okay, but to wrap this up quickly: While the characters are in a coma, they need to find their inner peace to wake up quickly. If their bodies takes too long to wake up from, those bodies probably cannot handle the strain anymore. The system then copies the character using the shadows and turns them into NPCs, while in reality those people that couldn't survive longer gets discarded. It has to be some form of medical treatment.

[thevil1]

Oh sh.. I had no idea ep 11 came out so soon. I'v been waiting all week. I'll come back and post my thoughts when I see it. *runs to watch it*

[pampz21]

wooooh...Dancing in Shadows next episode will be about Yuri....asking if this world would give her salvation too....
PS:Hinata is megaass playboy!

[Xellos-_^]

If anyone cares to read my prediction, go on. It's something I am probably right about though. This episode was great too.

This episode made it became clear that, that world is not exactly a world where people would find their inner peace to pass on.

I believed that each character infact didn't died. I'm going to take a big guess: Hinata got hit by a car/truck w/e it was, but is probably still in a coma state. Otanashi passed out before the rescue came. So in the end I'm just saying each character must've not died.

Following my predictions, each character is possibly hooked into a digital world to make up the time they lost while in their coma state of some sort. The reason why I said digital world, is because of a couple thing:

1) You cannot die. Which explains miraculous recoveries.
2) Everything seems to be affect by computers.

Tachibana's abilities are made with the Angel Player software. How that actually gives supernatural abilities, is strange. NPC's turning into shadows, it had a digital effect rather than some ominous transformation.


Okay, but to wrap this up quickly: While the characters are in a coma, they need to find their inner peace to wake up quickly. If their bodies takes too long to wake up from, those bodies probably cannot handle the strain anymore. The system then copies the character using the shadows and turns them into NPCs, while in reality those people that couldn't survive longer gets discarded. It has to be some form of medical treatment.


otonashi didn't just pass out he was also suffering form internal bleeding for a WEEK.

[pampz21]

otonashi didn't just pass out he was also suffering form internal bleeding for a WEEK.

I agree his dead....no one can survive that anyway...it's like having blood lost inside ur body

[Knightrunner]

I agree his dead....no one can survive that anyway...it's like having blood lost inside ur body

Plus, most dead people have there eyes open when the die. I never saw an unconcious person with there eyes kept open.

[pampz21]

Plus, most dead people have there eyes open when the die. I never saw an unconcious person with there eyes kept open.

yup yup.....the only thing is that after finding peace they be rebirth....having a new life or time rewinding!

[Dart]

Just threw this together while watching the ep.


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[kk2extreme]

If anyone cares to read my prediction, go on. It's something I am probably right about though. This episode was great too.

This episode made it became clear that, that world is not exactly a world where people would find their inner peace to pass on.

I believed that each character infact didn't died. I'm going to take a big guess: Hinata got hit by a car/truck w/e it was, but is probably still in a coma state. Otanashi passed out before the rescue came. So in the end I'm just saying each character must've not died.

Following my predictions, each character is possibly hooked into a digital world to make up the time they lost while in their coma state of some sort. The reason why I said digital world, is because of a couple thing:

1) You cannot die. Which explains miraculous recoveries.
2) Everything seems to be affect by computers.

Tachibana's abilities are made with the Angel Player software. How that actually gives supernatural abilities, is strange. NPC's turning into shadows, it had a digital effect rather than some ominous transformation.


Okay, but to wrap this up quickly: While the characters are in a coma, they need to find their inner peace to wake up quickly. If their bodies takes too long to wake up from, those bodies probably cannot handle the strain anymore. The system then copies the character using the shadows and turns them into NPCs, while in reality those people that couldn't survive longer gets discarded. It has to be some form of medical treatment.


dothack//?? :twitch:

[caesarsalad]

Wow... very interesting. The developments were very unexpected. I love guessing culprits. Poor Takamatsu though...

... I nearly cried when they showed Yui and Iwasawa's guitars. I'm glad Hinata mentioned her, and also I liked the Noda lookin' at Yuri's pic thing. XD

We haven't seen Chaa in a long time... I dunno though. I'm very curious. Argh damn cliff hanger.

... I pray the ending is a good one and we see them moving on in the next world XD

[rejer]

Ok, hope this helps people.
c68-Otonashi, c54-TK, c59-Matsushida (or maybe Noda), c48-Ooyama, c94-Noda, c51-Noda, c116-Yuri, c7-Hinata, c44-Noda, c81-Shiina, c26-Hisako, c217-Kaworu(Eva) CV:Ishida Akira, c174-Otonashi, c157-Yuri.
In other words there's one more person who thinks himself as a God. And he is our lovely Shinji(Naoi)-kun's partner Kaworu-kun.

This ep was so fast-paced. I can't really say I liked it. There were a lot of unnecessary things, unanswered questions, etc. I'm not satisfitied with it. But Yuri was awesome and I liked how Otonashi caressed Kanade-chan.

[rejer]

Wow... very interesting. The developments were very unexpected. I love guessing culprits. Poor Takamatsu though...

... I nearly cried when they showed Yui and Iwasawa's guitars. I'm glad Hinata mentioned her, and also I liked the Noda lookin' at Yuri's pic thing. XD

We haven't seen Chaa in a long time... I dunno though. I'm very curious. Argh damn cliff hanger.

... I pray the ending is a good one and we see them moving on in the next world XD

It sure reminds you of a certain game. Shadows kuma~. :)

Oh, there's one more game that I'd like to mention.
I wonder how the culprit escaped from this closed room with a pc.
Yuri: From the windows!
Bxxxo: The windows weren't opened even once!
...

[PNGO]

Wow... very interesting. The developments were very unexpected. I love guessing culprits. Poor Takamatsu though...

... I nearly cried when they showed Yui and Iwasawa's guitars. I'm glad Hinata mentioned her, and also I liked the Noda lookin' at Yuri's pic thing. XD

We haven't seen Chaa in a long time... I dunno though. I'm very curious. Argh damn cliff hanger.

... I pray the ending is a good one and we see them moving on in the next world XD

Yeah poor Takamatsu... or not ;)
I really think Takamatsu is the culprit, just think about it, isn't it strange he just "dies", just like that?

[caesarsalad]

Yeah poor Takamatsu... or not ;)
I really think Takamatsu is the culprit, just think about it, isn't it strange he just "dies", just like that?

You know, after thinking about it, I think you might be riiiiiight... perfect alibi, he's an NPC. Hmm, you might be onto something. Ihihihihihi~!

[Kudryavka]

From independence to NPC? Interesting, this sounds. Can't wait!

Acquiring right now, rawr!

[majestix1988]

Just threw this together while watching the ep.


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fricking zealot rush

Shadows and Yurippe are came from Persona series

maybe jun maeda addicted playing it

[skyy54264]

Placing Yui and Iwasawa's guitars together was a nice touch. Along with Noda and his pic of Yuri... and Shiina's expression with her puppies. In fact the ending sequence was well put together. It showed how the simplest things can bring joy and peace to individuals.

Any predictions on why Yuri's name isn't Yuri? She admits that it's just a nickname. Does "yurippe" have a certain meaning in Japanese?

[xBTAx]

Placing Yui and Iwasawa's guitars together was a nice touch. Along with Noda and his pic of Yuri... and Shiina's expression with her puppies. In fact the ending sequence was well put together. It showed how the simplest things can bring joy and peace to individuals.

Any predictions on why Yuri's name isn't Yuri? She admits that it's just a nickname. Does "yurippe" have a certain meaning in Japanese?

I'm pretty sure (but don't hold this as the 100% truth, as I haven't read it) that in the light novel, Yuri is given "Yurippe" as a nickname.

[Khu]

Yeah.

By Hinata, which is all that...

I would say poor Yuri, cept I know she can take care of herself. :D

Although Brave Song...;_;

[aeriolewinters]

Why did KH2 Vibes suddenly got into me after Yuri found that shaft.
Yuri is Haruhi's nobody?

[GDB]

Any predictions on why Yuri's name isn't Yuri? She admits that it's just a nickname. Does "yurippe" have a certain meaning in Japanese?

Her name's Yuri. Hinata gave her the nickname Yurippe because his mom's name was Yuri and he felt weird calling her by that name.

[Jarmel]

This show really needed to have more episodes or they needed to have cut back on the emotional filler. So we're probably going to end up with a villain introduced in the final 2 episodes with essentially no buildup or background. Then the shadows appearing now seem so ridiculously random that I'll hold off until the end of the season as there HAS to be some tie in to a previous event.

[Von Himmel]

I was thinking that this episode gives a little hint about Hinata x Yuri...but the way I saw it, it's more like a trusted friends instead a hint for shipping lol

And Yuri is just so awesome in this episode >_>; I wonder how she knew about Otonashi and Kanade despite the fact the she always kept herself in her room. Maybe that spy gives that information to her ?

Next episode, Knockin' on heaven's door....I smell awesomeness in the next episode.

[chingensai]

Just threw this together while watching the ep.


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LOL.. Kanade + Hand Sonic version 5 = Anri/Slasher (for durarara fans out there) XDD

They have the same voice actor too >__>

[Bombo]

Just threw this together while watching the ep.


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the fight with all members againts the shadow was awesome and this pic was pic :D i laughing about this move hehe..and TK was rock ane best part I kiss you" haha
And ya kanade isn't angel..she's human I couldn't loled when takanashi ask her your's angel or not ...hahahahaa


the moment was sad :(

[SirusRiddler]

First of all, it is REALLY weird watching Angel Beats after Evangelion. It's like Naoi is over-compensating for his life as clinically depressed and EVA pilot Shinji.

They have the same voice actors...just in case no one caught that.

Also, vibes of LOST again. First, the doctor hero leader. Then a paraplegic who walks. And now a HATCH. I find that pretty funny.

This episode was just one big tease. I really can't wait to see how this all concludes. Let the mass disappearing begin...

[Jarmel]

First of all, it is REALLY weird watching Angel Beats after Evangelion. It's like Naoi is over-compensating for his life as clinically depressed and EVA pilot Shinji.

They have the same voice actors...just in case no one caught that.

Also, vibes of LOST again. First, the doctor hero leader. Then a paraplegic who walks. And now a HATCH. I find that pretty funny.

This episode was just one big tease. I really can't wait to see how this all concludes. Let the mass disappearing begin...

Don't forget the smoke monster aka shadow. I wonder how they're going to animate the church.

[CCLemon]

I was surprised that Otonashi hadn't realized Kanade wasn't an angel. I always assumed that he knew she was a human.

Also, Yuri sure transitioned fast from Angel's nemesis and rebel to calling Angel "Kanade-chan" and encouraging the Battlefront to pass on. She didn't even have any visible qualms about it, either...

Huh, maybe it's all an act. Yuri = chessmaster/big bad?

[aeriolewinters]

Huh, maybe it's all an act. Yuri = chessmaster/big bad?
Give it a rest. Just focus on the apparent boss characters, like Takeyama.

[DragoonKain3]

Oh screw KanadeXOtonashi. I'm jumping ship and HinataXYurippe is now my OTP!

"What are you saying all of a sudden? Didn't we form this Battlefront together? We've spent a long time here together, so we'll leave together too. I won't leave you here."

If I didn't know better, I would've thought the two are childhood friends. But knowing each other for the longest time... well, I guess that's the closest thing, so I'll take it. :heh:

In any case, that was so awfully sweet of him. Hopefully I get more next episode.

(BTW, Yui's so lucky that she disappeared last episode. Halberd guy... you're next! lol)

[MeoTwister5]

Damn the pacing is so much on crack it's almost funny.

And yes, mass disappearances ftw. At this point it might be the only way to salvage Angel Beats' biggest fault for having a cast too big for it to handle. Gives Maeda an excuse to sort of brush everyone off and concentrate on the main plot that has taken a back seat for weeks now. I've always had an inkling that the apparent god of that world isn't so much an omniscient operator as it is a person acting as one. Perhaps there was sort of a god in place but given the computerized nature of the system a person could have easily at some point simply hijacked it as Yuri surmised.

So I'm going to assume the next two episodes will be split between Otonashi helping the rest of the front pass on and Yuri's own investigation into Guild. Somewhere at the end of episode 13 they'll squeeze an ending somewhere.

One can only hope so.

[Arbitres]

(BTW, Yui's so lucky that she disappeared last episode. Halberd guy... you're next! lol)

His name is Noda. And I hope he disappears next as well. xD Wait... Or was it Noba?

Hopefully Noda disappears after telling Yuri "I love you". It would be cheesy but it would be a part of his character.

I'm looking forward to the next episode. it will mostly show who the 'end boss' is. Hopefully more TK and Noda action.

Hopefully they won't give Yuri anymore 'surprisingly sharp insight' because now it just feels sort of creepy. Or maybe she really is the villain? Wouldn't know. I have to wait and see.

....I hope for more TK. Have I already said that? :heh:

[Wigwams]

Oh screw KanadeXOtonashi. I'm jumping ship and HinataXYurippe is now my OTP!

"What are you saying all of a sudden? Didn't we form this Battlefront together? We've spent a long time here together, so we'll leave together too. I won't leave you here."

If I didn't know better, I would've thought the two are childhood friends. But knowing each other for the longest time... well, I guess that's the closest thing, so I'll take it. :heh:

In any case, that was so awfully sweet of him. Hopefully I get more next episode.

(BTW, Yui's so lucky that she disappeared last episode. Halberd guy... you're next! lol)
their history from the novel.

they actually first met in the after life. they were each other's first companion. yuri had long been there and already knew her way around, she had also figured out that the people there were NPCs.

the first ordinary person she found was hinata. yuri approached him on his arrival(kicked him off the roof), and since then they have been together. the 2 of them are in essence the founders, they next recruited ooyama (the guy who specializes at having no specialty) and then chaa (the guild master guy).

[Knightrunner]

I wouldn't mind if they gave Yurippe more insight. lol she had spies and her own observant eyes to figure out everything. Yuzuru should do a better job next time if he wants to cover up an operation.

[Claies]

From listening to the preview sound clips,

I don't think Chaa is the final boss. The one who announces that they have "done well to reach here" doesn't sound remotely like Chaa, and is far more likely Takeyama. I will fully believe that the Guild has fallen and been taken over by the true final boss without Yurippe noticing. I believe the final could be a former Naoi ally (which would be damn boring) or Takeyama, whose Christ complex was never really taken care of - Yuri just regularly ignores and uses him. I would understand if he got really bitter and decided to screw with this world.

I find it really odd that Kanade is still so passive, at best listening fully to Otonashi and being benignly distant from the rest of SSS. It doesn't bode well for her character development.

Also, it sounds like everyone else will disappear while fighting for Yurippe. Could be either very silly or very sad.


Also, they picked the next sci-fi-looking gun in the world for Yurippe. Good job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDI_Vector

[Khu]

Yeah, I thought it was a Vector. Was almost tempted to say P90.

[Mirrinus]

Hmm...why does it feel like another genre shift for this show? Just when I had started to expect more helping-out-sad-girl type stories that Jun Maeda's been known for.

If you had told me that all these episodes were part of the same series, I might not have believed you, given how disconnected they feel. It sort of reminds me of Rozen Maiden which went from dolls fighting over a stairwell to, well, their version of episode 10 (season 2). But Angel Beats! feels more rushed due to having fewer episodes. I don't mind changes in tone and mood (I loved CLANNAD, after all), but this is a bit too fast for me.

[Archangel Roy]

Hmm...why does it feel like another genre shift for this show? Just when I had started to expect more helping-out-sad-girl type stories that Jun Maeda's been known for.

If you had told me that all these episodes were part of the same series, I might not have believed you, given how disconnected they feel. It sort of reminds me of Rozen Maiden which went from dolls fighting over a stairwell to, well, their version of episode 10 (season 2). But Angel Beats! feels more rushed due to having fewer episodes. I don't mind changes in tone and mood (I loved CLANNAD, after all), but this is a bit too fast for me.

I agree. The shortage on their episodes suck. DX

It doesn't seem likely that they'll open a season 2 T^T [I hope they do but Highly unlikely]

I loved how this episode gets a little deeper into the final climax of the series, but this series ended to fast.... Seriously...

[GDB]

I was surprised that Otonashi hadn't realized Kanade wasn't an angel. I always assumed that he knew she was a human.


The best way I can interpret it is that he knew she was a human, but thought she had ascended to an Angel level to watch over the purgatory they were in. He didn't even consider the possibility that she was a human who simply had regrets.

[dark998]

A nice episode. Massive story/character development and great fight scenes to boot. TK and Kanade really shined there, also Yuri with her agile movements.

Also liked Otonashi's reaction when he found out Kanade is human as well. And how he patted her head :p

Now that the series reached its final stretch the truth of the world is closer to being revealed.

[Lukix]

I liked the part when Hinata yelled for Yuri and talked to her, damn, it's still hope for Hinata x Yuri supporters? ; d

[elroid]

Where did matushita 5th dan went? Did he get done in too or he was actually one of the culprit?

[Zanibas]

You know, although a 2nd season is unlikely, does anyone remember the "another world" episodes for Clannad? Could easily happen here to cover the rest of the character's regrets.

But then again, that's more wishful thinking :D

[Primary Consult]

Had to give this a 10...
+Fight scene
+Yuri insight was completely in character, she has shown a few times to be selective about what she reveals to the group... with possible exception for Yusa. She seems to enjoy staying a few steps ahead of the class, perhaps to prevent them from acting unpredictably and screwing up things like her covert-ops move at the end...

-Otonoashi really should have figured out Kanade's status by now...

Computer hacking doesn't seem like Chaa's style, so I doubt it's him.

I doubt there would be a second season but it would be awesome if it were given a Kanon-style opportunity to be re-told with a longer run...
Or, if it was fleshed out into a full game.

[Knightrunner]

Where did matushita 5th dan went? Did he get done in too or he was actually one of the culprit?

Maybe he will be the one to save Yurippe out of trouble next episode since he seems like a hidden trump card. Matushita 5th dan does not seem like the type to betray his comrades. Who knows maybe it was Kanade evil friend that is pulling the strings since she still seem distant.

I have to admit this episode still entertains me even though they are moving fast pace. I like how Yurippe took more the leadership role again and let everything out in the open for her followers to decide.

Had to give this a 10...
+Fight scene
+Yuri insight was completely in character, she has shown a few times to be selective about what she reveals to the group... with possible exception for Yusa. She seems to enjoy staying a few steps ahead of the class, perhaps to prevent them from acting unpredictably and screwing up things like her covert-ops move at the end...

-Otonoashi really should have figured out Kanade's status by now...

Computer hacking doesn't seem like Chaa's style, so I doubt it's him.

I doubt there would be a second season but it would be awesome if it were given a Kanon-style opportunity to be re-told with a longer run...
Or, if it was fleshed out into a full game.

I doubt it is his style too since he is the weapon making type of person.

[farios]

Great episode!

-More Yuri and less Angel(sorry but you gotta admit she's been stealing Yuri's spotlight too much)
-They finally get rid of Takamatsu!
-TK sure is badass this time
-Do i hear Akira Ishida in the preview?
-Otonashi haven't realized Angel's true identity after all this time...

I'm calling it in the end everyone disappears

[Solace]

A thoroughly enjoyable episode. I'm enjoying the overall feel and twists in the series, and despite my opinion that the cast is too big for this many episodes they've managed to at least make the characters with screen time interesting (yes, even TK has his moments....sometimes).

I also like that every theory I've had was thrown out with this new "boss" and Yuri's acceptance of Otonashi's plan to help everyone move on. I honestly don't know what to think now, and that's actually really nice. Because it's difficult to predict how all of this will end, it makes me even more excited to see how things will turn out.

Still, I get the feeling the ending will feel rushed. Somehow that doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would.

[raruku]

2 more Ep. !

I wish Yuri solve everything in the next Ep. so we can enjoy watching the last conclusion with 1 full Ep. lenght !!!

[skyy54264]

You know, although a 2nd season is unlikely, does anyone remember the "another world" episodes for Clannad? Could easily happen here to cover the rest of the character's regrets.

But then again, that's more wishful thinking :D

I'm more inclined to believe KEY will pull a Kanon and remake it later with 26 episodes... but that's also wishful thinking.


I hate how they trashed Kanade aside these last two episodes. Episode 9 really made her look like an Angel. She dedicated her life (time) to fulfilling other people's wishes and regrets to help them move on in life. You can really see why she's given the title Angel. Yet these two pass episodes, she's demoted to a puppy following Otonashi's whacked out plans and Yuri's orders without question. Even Yuri admits Kanade's only use is combat.

[Ezilled]

In preparation before the climax or the finale, I must say that this turned out to be great as expected. Yuri was truly a remarkable leader as she gave her division to choose or act freely, and she even knew what exactly Otonashi was doing the whole time. More importantly, how the hell he wasn't sure about Kanade being a human all along or in the mid-way point? Stepping aside, I was melted and smiled when Otonashi petted Kanade, and the mini-tribute to Yui and Iwasawa from the GirlsDemo.

It looks like they're back AGAIN for the third time in the guild's hideout, and it should be expected that the side characters will do their part to be heroic and die/disappear/stunned for a few minutes to give the key characters their battle against the culprit. As for the mastermind behind prior to the events, it seems it'll be another person who knows the guild passage and perhaps the secrets of the afterlife world judging from Akira Ishida (VA: Kaworu, Nagi, Fate Averruncus). It's kinda weird and intruiging at the same time that his line was only in the c 217, so I'm guessing that the proceeding lines are somewhat delicate and spoilerific.

Thus, I'm ready to face the 'end-game' atmosphere from the show which has been kept me glued and intrigued from the beginning. Don't let me disappointed, Maeda-kun.

[bhl88]

In Episode 5 I believe was when they knew that she was human. In other words, they forgot about that.

Yusa, 5th dan, some new enemy or Kanade's twin sister :heh:

TK has made the episode good. Dancing in the shadow~

Naoi's hypnotism changes again...

@Hinata (Episode 7): Now, you will realize the greatness of clothespins, and in comparison, your worthlessness and despair.
Hinata: A clothespin... You pin it... You pin it and it doesn't fall... The laundry doesn't get dirty! So beautiful! You can use it instead of a paper clip or just about anything else! I'm nothing compared to it! I'm so worthless! There's no hope for me at all! ToT OTL
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@Oyama (Episode 8): Now realize. You are a clown. Look. There's a lonely looking girl there in the dark over there.
Oyama: Oh no, that's true! Let me make you laugh- *STAB*
Hinata: Oyama!!!!
Otanoshi: You're horrible.
At 5:12/5:13
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@Hinata (Episode 11): Now, look into my eyes. You are a toilet paper. You will realize the splendor on how easy toilet paper is flushed- *this broadcast has been interrupted by Otanoshi*
At 2:33
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[fertygo]

The pace is getting messy again after some episode getting neat, and that the only one things I'm enjoyed from the recent few episode.

No matter how I see it, the writing is very bad.. I don't think I "watch" anything writted by Maeda after this

[pseudonhym]

Great episode, it's not surprising that Yuri knows what Otonashi and the others have been doing. She really has great leadership skills despite being similar to a dictator, I admire Yuri for that. I laughed hard at Naoi's explanations during the meeting, and Tenshi's wings are awesome.

[tsunade666]

The episode is good and I have nothing to say but it's looks all patch up for it to meet 12/13 episode ending but still it's good. I still give it 10/10 but something doesn't feel right for me.

[iceyfw]

angel beats still entertaining me from the start till the end. i gotta say it does suck angel beats is a multimedia project to begin with. i'm sure it could have been 26 episodes or more if it wasn't for that.

and i noticed the 5th dan guy missing too. it's like he got completely ignored this episode or there might be something else going on with him :uhoh:

[DeX-kun]

I laughed hard at Naoi's explanations during the meeting

http://h.imagehost.org/0539/Idiot.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0539/Idiot)

:)

[tsunade666]

completely ignored? I haven't even see him at all. While they even had the time to show 4 eyes turning npc but still TK is the man.

[Crontica]

First of all, it is REALLY weird watching Angel Beats after Evangelion. It's like Naoi is over-compensating for his life as clinically depressed and EVA pilot Shinji.

They have the same voice actors...just in case no one caught that.

Also, vibes of LOST again. First, the doctor hero leader. Then a paraplegic who walks. And now a HATCH. I find that pretty funny.

This episode was just one big tease. I really can't wait to see how this all concludes. Let the mass disappearing begin...

Oh my god you're right :eyespin: It looks official that this anime is also taking the Zegapain route now.

[iceyfw]

completely ignored? I haven't even see him at all. While they even had the time to show 4 eyes turning npc but still TK is the man.yes, that is what i mean by completely ignored this episode.

granted they didn't show him the past 2 weeks, but not to show him on the soccer field fighting the shadows, during the ED song, or even when they're having a group discussion in the gym is very suspicious. the last time we see him is guarding the door with TK in episode 9 where kaede was sleeping. i even double-checked the scene in the gym and they didn't even bother to put him there where we can clearly tell it's him.

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[Marcus H.]

I don't think Takeyama's the culprit. It's definitely an entirely different character.
Besides, all Takeyama wanted is to blog and for someone to call him Chri-

[bhl88]

And we interrupt the program with a picture.


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk318/Anime_Fan_Otaku/Mazui_Angel_Beats_-_11_0BB1404Fmkv_.jpg

[Konakaga]

Very interesting a episode, and makes me glad Yui moved on as seeing her hyper self become an NPC would be sad, and Yuri was amazing this episode with his information gathering, combat vs shadow, solo mission, and leadership most of all.

[touge-n00b]

Once again, Naoi's hypnotizing is WIN. :D

[Raiza Sunozaki]

I have to say, this was possibly the best way to send off Angel Beats!. There's no way they could managed am individual ascension for all the members of the SSS, so this is a great way to conclude the series.
I already have a good idea of what going to happen next episode. Yuri's going to begin her descent in Guild, find her theory was correct, and confront the culprit who's behind this whole mess. That's still an unknown to me though, but I do have some ideas. Yuri then gets attacked by an army of shadows.
Flipside, the entire SSS is preparing their final decision, and Otonashi goes around talking with all of them, recounting his experiences in the afterlife, finally arriving at a place where he is alone with Kanade, he makes his decision.
Back underground, Yuri, while managing to survive pretty bad-assedly, is almost at her end fighting the shadow army. Just as she has no hope left, the entire SSS comes charging in, guns blazing, having found her thanks to the tracker Yusa left on her last time they were have se-
Anyway, some nice quotes and tearful smiles later, the episode ends and we get the ending credits.
That's my plan-out for episode twelve, at least.

[Auron Requies]

Another awesome episode, I'm even glad that the action has been kicked up a notch ("Dancing in the Shadows" "I kiss you") ;)

So now the idea of 'God' is back again. Two episodes left, I hope there's gonna be an ova/oad of some sort.

On a quick note, seeing Noda show his soft side is actually nice.

[Kafriel]

Matsushita go-dan is supposed to be training in the mountains, so it's natural for him to be absent for now. Shadows seem like a good way to finalize the story: with Otonashi's faction being able to effectively send everyone off, this can be their last obstacle (with loads of self-sacrifice and dramatic deaths, of course).

[Jin Kizuite]

Man am I thinking too much about how Takamatsu is now pretty much doomed to eternal npc misery? *Tries to imagine.*

Well I suppose he is technically "dead" and shouldn't be consciously aware of the repetitive infinite routine he will live through now. Did his soul move onto the next life or is he forever a prisoner? Unless there is part of him alive and he does know what he's become but can't do anything about it. As they said it's worse than death.
R.I.P, well I suppose that isn't really possible either. *Sadness*

In other news, I hope Noda and TK get badass moving on endings. I half expect TK to do Matrix with duel guns at some point. Anyone else lol?

[KaedeF]

Matsushita go-dan is supposed to be training in the mountains, so it's natural for him to be absent for now. Shadows seem like a good way to finalize the story: with Otonashi's faction being able to effectively send everyone off, this can be their last obstacle (with loads of self-sacrifice and dramatic deaths, of course).

But something is fishy for him to be absent at this very moment. It seems pointless to the story development to have him merely training in the mountains.

Poor Takamatsu. He will no longer show off his muscular body. :heh:

[Hypernova]

Hm... How about this: One of the rogue Tenshi's escaped absorption!

[Crontica]

Hm... How about this: One of the rogue Tenshi's escaped absorption!

Clone: Guard skill: Delay.

Plot solved.

[Mister Random]

Can anyone confirm how many episodes are left (1 or 2) as in someplaces it says there are 12 episodes and others 13.

On the topic of the "final boss" , assuming that it is someone we know then "Call me Christ" is the most logical suspect given his knowledge of computers, the suspicious message on his computer at the end of the episode and his regular prescence in the series. I can barely remember some of the other people suggested as the boss.

As for this episode my favourite moment had to be Naoi trying to cover for Otonashi which just kept on getting more ridiculous as the scene progressed.

Like other people I too found it hard to believe that Otonashi had not worked out that Kanade was human as he seemed to be one of the first people to pick up that she may not be an angel afterall.

[Thoguht]

Matushita 5th dan does not seem like the type to betray his comrades.
Except that he'd sell his soul for a bowl of meat udon ;)

Seriously though, I felt it was extremely strange and therefore probably highly significant that we didn't see him at all in this ep (mountain training notwithstanding). I'm not tipping him for final boss though.

Anyway, so Otonashi really is as dumb as he seems sometimes. If he truly didn't realise Kanade was human then maybe that explains why he didn't show much of a reaction when he woke up in ep 9 to find her stroking his head and again when she touched his cheek.

One final thought, which is related to the poll results. I suppose it's early days yet, but so far it's a "twin peaks" shape, which is an indication that it's divided its audience. That's not a smart move this late on in a series, but it's probably the frenetic pacing that's leaving some of the audience behind.

[Auron Requies]

Now that people are taking about Matsushita, I can imagine him being the backup reinforcement for the end game during the series.

And is it possible to save Takamatsu from NPCment? (Gonna miss his random workouts) Though he doesn't look bad without glasses. But with what happened to him, does that mean that, all the NPC's there were originally human?

And why the hell did that computer repairman NPC seem liked being threatened by a machine gun is so normal? Bloody weird, his business must suck.

[totalnet]

Yuri's idea of 2 person team was a good idea to have each person watch over each other. But what if your teammate turn out to be the culprit? Now you got no one to protect you. He could easily wait until no other groups is around and turn the shadow on you.

We haven't really seen Ōyama doing any non-SSS activities. He had plenty free time to steal those computers.

And why the hell did that computer repairman NPC seem liked being threatened by a machine gun is so normal? Bloody weird, his business must suck.

That's the whole point being NPC. Like in a JRPG, where you just went thru NPC's house and stole every valuable things in it. But when you speak to him, he totally ignore that and say his canned speech. Well the computer repairman NPC canned speech was that someone being stealing high end computers, which is ironic.

[Hypernova]

And why the hell did that computer repairman NPC seem liked being threatened by a machine gun is so normal? Bloody weird, his business must suck.

That's part of being NPC's, they don't have true emotions or sentience at all.

[Raiza Sunozaki]

Yuri's idea of 2 person team was a good idea to have each person watch over each other. But what if your teammate turn out to be the culprit? Now you got no one to protect you. He could easily wait until no other groups is around and turn the shadow on you.

We haven't really seen Ōyama doing any non-SSS activities. He had plenty free time to steal those computers.

Seems like someone's thinking along my wavelengths. I'm in the same boat. If we drop the obvious culprits/red herrings like Christ, Oyama is high on my list of suspicious people.
Surprisingly, I found Yusa was as well. She seems technologically proficient, and is... well, underdeveloped.
On the list was also Takamatsu, who I considered might only be faking being an NPC.

The problem is, the SSS is a delinquent group, and they spend a lot of their time goofing off. And since we rarely see them all together, there's plenty of chances for one of the SSS to go on a computer stealing-spree, and play God.
But while the fact that the culprit uses Guild basically confirms that the culprit is one of the SSS, I would find it amusing if Maeda threw in a random new character as the culprit. Maybe not beneficial to the plot in any way, but amusing.

[Auron Requies]

That's the whole point being NPC. Like in a JRPG, where you just went thru NPC's house and stole every valuable things in it.

Lol, that just reminded me of the RPG heroes are jerks video.

As obvious as the answer is, I just still find it hard to that the anyone would talk calmly with no clue while a gun is being pointed. But I guess that's a first shown in the anime where they shove a gun in the face of an NPC, unless its been done already in the Track Zero novels, which I still need to read.

[eiyuu99]

Opening cupboards and drawers for antidotes and herbs...
even if there is an NPC right in front of them. The good guys, yeah.

3-person group might be better, unless two are betrayers.

[MetaFire]

I really liked this episode so I gave it 10. I thought the pacing of this ep was great.

When the ed song played, I started to get teary-eyed, especially with the scene of Shiina and her wind-up cats. The ed song is so beautiful, especially when you sit and read the lyrics what the lyrics are saying. I really like the ed montages that they've been doing the past couple eps.

[KaneDragon]

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4451/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.jpg/)
If the afterlife is the Matrix, I guess it makes sense that even Otonashi can leap down if he feels like it.

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TK continues to be as awesome as ever. :heh:

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I thought Otonashi was just joking to himself...
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...and then I thought he was just surprised that Yuri knew ...but no, he really didn't know. That this came as a shock was a surprise to me, too. :rolleyes:

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Dawwwwwww... :)

Funny how everyone seems to go into quiet solitary introspection right after Yuri told everyone to move as a group...
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4451/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.th.jpg (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.jpg/)
TK is exempt, of course. He's clearly challenging the shadows to an epic dance off. Shadows don't stand a chance. :D

I'm a little irritated that Yuri is still keeping so much to herself and acting on her own. She'd be a lot more effective if she brought backup. If she doesn't even tell anyone about her very sound suspicions, no one else will have a clue if something happens to her.

I wonder if the shadows are the product of a certain someone messing with Angel Player (or similar). "The Second Coming of Call-Me-Christ", anyone? :cool:
The Second Coming of Christ is surely upon us! Repent your sins regrets, or he damned to high school for all eternity! :heh:

[momobunny]

Surprisingly, I found Yusa was as well. She seems technologically proficient, and is... well, underdeveloped.

I found it odd that she was always at the right place at just the right time to report to Yuri. In the last episode she reported the first attack... but I wasn't sure if she was actually watching or was told afterward by Noda or Ooyama. This time though, she was seen watching from a building top. I don't think she's the culprit, but she does seem pretty suspicious.

[kache]

Interesting episode, as always.
Now I'm curious to see who is the culprit. :D

[Crontica]

Battler: The culprit is Hinata!

Dlanor: It is IMPOSSIBLE for the culprit to be the main lead of the STORY.

Beatrice: Hinata was present at the time of the incident. 20 hours passed since the first shadow encounter. Noda and Oyoma where there upon the scene.

Battler: I find it suspicious that Oyoma is the only character so far that has encountered the shadow creatures twice! Who's to say he didn't bribe Matsuda with food while making Takamatsu his second target?

[kitten320]

Just saw subs, great episode!
I liked Kanade;s wings and it looks like she lied slightly... she can fly with them! At least they had moved and soothened her landing.

So Yuri knew about Otonashi's plan? I guess she diecied that it isn't such a bad idea... though I'm confused about Hinata. He is ready to help Otonashi with making others dissapear but then is completly against it when Takamatsu started to study, where is the logic?

So Kanade is a 100% human? 0_o
I knew that she was not Tenshi but I still though that she was something else... I mean she moves and fights faster and more efficiently than others. Just look at the speed she was cutting down those shadows, how is that possible?

And if so, then I'm dying to see her past. As what kind of tragedy happened to her and why she is still here.

My favorite line today was "I kiss you" by TK, it sounded so cool! Had to listen to it several times. Kinda reminds me of Archer from Fate/stay night.

Though I really hope that everyone won't decide to move on at once all of a sudden.

Can't wait to see who is the culprit! Wonder how they will wrap it all in 2 episodes...

EDIT: Also curiouse about Shiina, does she have some regret connected to animals, especially puppies?

[FlareKnight]

Well this was a pretty good episode. I have to give Yuri credit for figuring out what was going on and yet handling it in a pretty mature fashion. I really expected Otonashi to be called out as a traitor and strung up when discovered. Instead he was given a chance to speak up about what he thought. Really it's what he should have done from the start instead of all the sneaking around.

I really think the band is just going to disappear on their own. Even if they decided to stick around their next lead vocalist would just vanish anyways :heh:. Might as well give up while they are behind.

[KaedeF]

So Yuri knew about Otonashi's plan? I guess she diecied that it isn't such a bad idea... though I'm confused about Hinata. He is ready to help Otonashi with making others dissapear but then is completly against it when Takamatsu started to study, where is the logic?


I guess Hinata didn't want Takamatsu to disappear without fulfilling his dream/wishes first.
Or he was actually reminding Takamatsu that being obedient will lead to his disappearance, which has been being avoided by the SS members all this time.

[frodonk]

anybody else saw the portrait of yuri inside the principal's office?

[Ryalynn]

Next episode will have an epic fight with God aka Izanami that seems impossible. Then Hinata, Yuri and Kanade will sacrifice themselves for Otonashi, "Reach out to the Truth" plays, Otonashi crushes his health insurance card and calls out "Pers...

No?

[Raiza Sunozaki]

Battler: The culprit is Hinata!

Dlanor: It is IMPOSSIBLE for the culprit to be the main lead of the STORY.

Beatrice: Hinata was present at the time of the incident. 20 hours passed since the first shadow encounter. Noda and Oyoma where there upon the scene.

Battler: I find it suspicious that Oyoma is the only character so far that has encountered the shadow creatures twice! Who's to say he didn't bribe Matsuda with food while making Takamatsu his second target?

*Atomic facedesk*

Might as well run with it. The person programming the shadows doesn't necessarily have to be on the scene when the shadows are rampaging. In fact, it would be better for them to have some excuse to being absent. That way, they don't risk their own assimilation by the shadow, and they don't look suspicious for being the only one not attacked.

[GDB]

So Yuri knew about Otonashi's plan? I guess she diecied that it isn't such a bad idea... though I'm confused about Hinata. He is ready to help Otonashi with making others dissapear but then is completly against it when Takamatsu started to study, where is the logic?

Hinata wants people to disappear by confronting their regrets and overcoming them. The "studying into disappearance" route is basically forgetting your regrets and moving on, which is the exact opposite path he wants.

So Kanade is a 100% human? 0_o
I knew that she was not Tenshi but I still though that she was something else... I mean she moves and fights faster and more efficiently than others. Just look at the speed she was cutting down those shadows, how is that possible?

Guard Skill: Overdrive.

[kitten320]

Did she have such?
She sure is a geniuse to be able to create it al...

[Konakaga]

I'm a little irritated that Yuri is still keeping so much to herself and acting on her own. She'd be a lot more effective if she brought backup. If she doesn't even tell anyone about her very sound suspicions, no one else will have a clue if something happens to her.


I think she's doing for their well being for a worst case scenario, so that others don't force her choice on themselves. I mean what if she stops the culprit, but finds out there isn't anyway to stop the shadows from appearing once the program was started, in such a case it was better for them to try to find peace than be with her. And given her past Yuri, I think as a leader she would much rather put her own well being on the line, then that of her allies, and friends.

Did she have such?
She sure is a geniuse to be able to create it al...

Well in the fishing episode, Kanade said something about the overdrive skill being passive which is why seems stronger, and faster than everyone else, and was listed on her skills on her computer so she does have such a skill.

[Knightrunner]

I can't count on Christ being the culprit yet. When he was typeing in the end it looks like it is just his journal log or diary.Dan 5th seems like the back up type not the computer type to program shadows to attack the Afterlife Battlefront. lol Yurippe sure brought in more weapontry to defend herself, but I wished she told somebody where she is going. I'm glad to see a unification now instead of having separate groups this episode :)

I think she's doing for their well being for a worst case scenario, so that others don't force her choice on themselves. I mean what if she stops the culprit, but finds out there isn't anyway to stop the shadows from appearing once the program was started, in such a case it was better for them to try to find peace than be with her. And given her past Yuri, I think as a leader she would much rather put her own well being on the line, then that of her allies, and friends.

It seems like she has her hunches since she told Yusa in the walky talky that she will think of every possibility. Yurippe doesn't have any overwhelming evidence in what is going happen and everything is changing fast so she is trying to reach to the scene first; kind of like when she was making quick decisions in how to save Kanade.

I totally agree with what you said in the above quote but to add something I think she is also doing it because she is being like an older sister trying to take care of the root problem since action speaks louder than words.

Well in the fishing episode, Kanade said something about the overdrive skill being passive which is why seems stronger, and faster than everyone else, and was listed on her skills on her computer so she does have such a skill.

Yep. :)

[elroid]

Now that I think of it, is Naoi ability also developed from the software? If yes, where did he obtained the software? Maybe the culprit(s?) also used the same method to obtain it too...?

[SoggySoyBean]

anybody else saw the portrait of yuri inside the principal's office?

hah, i had to rewatch to see it xD. would've missed it if you didnt call it out

[Crontica]

*Atomic facedesk*

Might as well run with it. The person programming the shadows doesn't necessarily have to be on the scene when the shadows are rampaging. In fact, it would be better for them to have some excuse to being absent. That way, they don't risk their own assimilation by the shadow, and they don't look suspicious for being the only one not attacked.

>_< Then what about that christ dude, he was absent for the entirety of episode 7 when the clones were running loose. Getting lack of respect from his fellow crew, and having an obvious god complex it isn't far fetched to say that he hijacked the computers from the library then used the abandoned guild to avoid detection.

[SoggySoyBean]

>_< Then what about that christ dude, he was absent for the entirety of episode 7 when the clones were running loose. Getting lack of respect from his fellow crew, and having an obvious god complex it isn't far fetched to say that he hijacked the computers from the library then used the abandoned guild to avoid detection.

eh? wasn't he walking back from being thrown away by Kanade in the fishing episode?

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Lol, it's funny how Yurippe knew about Otonashi's doings the entire time. Nothing gets by her.

[kache]

Lol, it's funny how Yurippe knew about Otonashi's doings the entire time. Nothing gets by her.

That's why she is the boss. :D

[Crontica]

eh? wasn't he walking back from being thrown away by Kanade in the fishing episode?

Meh he could have taken his time doing otherthings in the meanwhile.

[momobunny]

She was just monitoring on Otonashi's movements. Because at that time they knew about Otonashi's plan.

Ahh that would explain it. I was wondering if she was just watching Otonashi. :3

[Raiza Sunozaki]

>_< Then what about that christ dude, he was absent for the entirety of episode 7 when the clones were running loose. Getting lack of respect from his fellow crew, and having an obvious god complex it isn't far fetched to say that he hijacked the computers from the library then used the abandoned guild to avoid detection.

Christ is no Takamatsu. Despite both of them wearing glasses, Takamatsu is extraordinarily fit, while Christ is an average computer otaku. With such a weak body structure, I doubt he could easily move a large amount of computers (which is what Yuri is suggesting what is happening) even over a period of a couple days.
Quasi-related, but what are people's opinions on if Takamatsu might just be pretending to have become NPC-ified, to allow his devious computer-stealing schemes to become a success.

[Qikz]

Wow, easily the best episode they've done, but I can't help but feel they made Yui dissapear for nothing, since if they actually find who's been messing around with the world they can live there properly.

First episode I've ever actually felt emotional Clannad style this series and each of the thought stages of the characters about leaving were really great. I get this awesome feeling/hope that everyone is going to side with Yurripe and stay with the cause and find out who's been changing the world so they can fix it.

[momobunny]

Christ is no Takeyama. Despite both of them wearing glasses, Takeyama is extraordinarily fit, while Christ is an average computer otaku. With such a weak body structure, I doubt he could easily move a large amount of computers (which is what Yuri is suggesting what is happening) even over a period of a couple days.
Quasi-related, but what are people's opinions on if Takeyama might just be pretending to have become NPC-ified, to allow his devious computer-stealing schemes to become a success.

Christ is Takeyama... I think you mean Takamatsu.

[Raiza Sunozaki]

Christ is Takeyama... I think you mean Takamatsu.

Thank you; I fixed it.

[Qikz]

I just realised!

When they talk to Takamatsu NPC, look at his eyes. There's something in his eyes.

Whenever you see NPC's in the past, their eyes are completely blank. It also did that close up before they all left too. I don't think he got eaten by the shadow, I think he was pulled underground.

[boredandlazy]

Wow, easily the best episode they've done, but I can't help but feel they made Yui dissapear for nothing, since if they actually find who's been messing around with the world they can live there properly.


She didn't disappear for nothing, the entire point for them being in this world (apparently) is having the chance to make good on any regrets/wishes they had when they(apparently) died.
They could all stay there forever if they wanted to but they'd also have a cloud of regret hanging over them the whole time.

[Spiritual]

Christ is no Takeyama. Despite both of them wearing glasses, Takeyama is extraordinarily fit, while Christ is an average computer otaku. With such a weak body structure, I doubt he could easily move a large amount of computers (which is what Yuri is suggesting what is happening) even over a period of a couple days.
Quasi-related, but what are people's opinions on if Takeyama might just be pretending to have become NPC-ified, to allow his devious computer-stealing schemes to become a success.

It depends on the make of the computer if its relatively easy to move. And even if it was someone who was fit, it would still take a decent amount of time to move it. Perhaps who did it could of had npcs move the computers by way of programing them, in which case it wouldn't matter too much if the person was under-average in strength or not.

[Qikz]

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7233/takamatsueye.jpg

There's definately something in his eye, and it was focused on really highly in that closeup.

If he was just an ordinary NPC, he would have souless eyes as NPCs have no soul.

[Raiza Sunozaki]

I just realised!

When they talk to Takamatsu NPC, look at his eyes. There's something in his eyes.

Whenever you see NPC's in the past, their eyes are completely blank. It also did that close up before they all left too. I don't think he got eaten by the shadow, I think he was pulled underground.

Bingo. This helps me a lot.
Takamatsu is the one programming the NPCs to become shadows and attack the SSS. In order to make himself disappear from scrutiny, he played it out to seem like he was eaten by the shadow, when only it was moving him to his hideout in Guild. There, using the Angel Player software, he created a Harmonics of himself to head flipside and make everyone believe he was turned into an NPC.

[Crontica]

Bingo. This helps me a lot.
Takamatsu is the one programming the NPCs to become shadows and attack the SSS. In order to make himself disappear from scrutiny, he played it out to seem like he was eaten by the shadow, when only it was moving him to his hideout in Guild. There, using the Angel Player software, he created a Harmonics of himself to head flipside and make everyone believe he was turned into an NPC.

Hmm thats a pretty solid theory, Yuri did say that the shadows looked like they were getting absorbed into the floor.

[KaneDragon]

Bingo. This helps me a lot.
Takamatsu is the one programming the NPCs to become shadows and attack the SSS. In order to make himself disappear from scrutiny, he played it out to seem like he was eaten by the shadow, when only it was moving him to his hideout in Guild. There, using the Angel Player software, he created a Harmonics of himself to head flipside and make everyone believe he was turned into an NPC.
But Takamatsu is an idiot. :heh:

[GDB]

There's definately something in his eye, and it was focused on really highly in that closeup.

If he was just an ordinary NPC, he would have souless eyes as NPCs have no soul.

Fairly sure it's 1s and 0s.

[Crontica]

Fairly sure it's 1s and 0s.


When Kanade executed her programs it released white 1s and 0s while the shadows are black 1s and 0s.

[klare]

hmm the friend helping show only lasted 1 eps and we are now watching mystery show... tho it is still very funny

i am guessing that spectacle guy's soul was not eaten, but stolen and brought to the underground, Yuri has to save the day in the next eps (but it might change back to friend helping...)

[Archon_Wing]

Very solidly paced episode. Naoi's stupid explanations for Kanade were hillarious. And wings... they sure love wings don't they? :p

Guess you couldn't fool Yuri after all, and now she's off to do detective work. Well, on to the next episode; let's see if we find the motivation for whoever's doing this.

[PNGO]

But Takamatsu is an idiot. :heh:

He might as well be just acting like an idiot, but in reality he's completely evil!

I also think that he's the real culprit, was the first thing I thought after I watched the episode.
It's been done so many times before(movies, mangas, tv series), the first victim turns out to be the real mastermind! that's why I hope I'm wrong about this one.

[GDB]

He might as well be just acting like an idiot, but in reality he's completely evil!

I also think that he's the real culprit, was the first thing I thought after I watched the episode.
It's been done so many times before(movies, mangas, tv series), the first victim turns out to be the real mastermind! that's why I hope I'm wrong about this one.

But wasn't the first one attacked Oyama, at the end of episode 10? And then he was the one who saw Takamatsu getting assimilated...

[ameskitty]

Umineko color battles here too? Oh, boy, I don't think I'll ever be able to catch a break :heh:.

Anyways, I've had no idea where this show was trying to go, to be honest. It's been all over, and the only thing that's really been keeping me is Tenshi/Kanade (not really sure why, she just seems like an interesting character).

But this episode was a lot better than the out-of-nowhere YuixHinata 10, and I've got a good feeling that next episode might tie things together a bit, hopefully more than just this little subplot.

Let's hope it merits the Evangelion title reference, in any case. (which is half the reason I decided to post, by the way :heh:)

[zeth006]

Ninja girl talked a lot this time...

[Jerseykid]

The mastermind behind everything is some nobody who flexes his chest muscles? That would be the lamest ending in anime history.

Kanade looked super cool with her wings.

[risingstar3110]

It's hilarious how Yuri is feared by even Hinata, but she turned out to be the most reasonable of them all :heh:
Otonashi should just speak out his plan instead of sneaking behind Yuri to execute it. It's not like Yuri need to keep anyone in the SSS to help her. She's one hell of leader, and one-man-army by her own :D


Anyway...so... I was joking about how Yusa is the leader's pet (considering how she only communicated with Yuri). After this episode, Hinata and Otonashi probably would agree with me. She is like Yuri's privileged watchdog, look over and track down traitors or any concerned matters before directly reporting back to Yuri....

[Arbitres]

The mastermind behind everything is some nobody who flexes his chest muscles? That would be the lamest ending in anime history.

Zero Requiem. Now what was that about lamest ending in anime history?

Ninja girl talked a lot this time...

About damn time Shiina got some love. I'm happy she talked. ^_^ Go Shiina! *Cheerleader mode*

Kanade looked super cool with her wings.

Kanade looked super cool with her wings and rifles.

[zette]

Bingo. This helps me a lot.
Takamatsu is the one programming the NPCs to become shadows and attack the SSS. In order to make himself disappear from scrutiny, he played it out to seem like he was eaten by the shadow, when only it was moving him to his hideout in Guild. There, using the Angel Player software, he created a Harmonics of himself to head flipside and make everyone believe he was turned into an NPC.
I like this theory. From the episode it's obvious that his eyes are not like that of your average NPC, and for them to put such a large emphasis on his eyes by giving a close-up shot, I think it suggests something. It would certainly make more sense than Takeyama (although I wouldn't mind this) or Matsushita (his absence in this whole ep is suspicious though) being the culprit.

Anyway, this was a good ep. That whole sequence with Brave Song playing in the background was excellent and managed to get me teary-eyed. Still worried about how they're gonna pull off a good ending though...

[Hypernova]

As is it now I think Go dan guy is most likely given the timing of his "training in the mountain"

[risingstar3110]

How's about there are more than one culprit?

[raruku]

So they NEVER explain how Kanade and Naoi create her/his skill ?

this fact made me feel uneasy from the start. y'all know that both of them is the same type as SSS but why they can create the skill ? if it because of angel program then how can they obtain it and how SSS don't use it to make their own skill after they know 'bout it ???


sry for the engrish !!

[Arbitres]

How's about there are more than one culprit?



Takamatsu: *flex* Due to our lack of screentime...
Matsuhita: We decided to rebel against SSS!
Oyama: Oh! Can I join? I don't have a lot of screentime either!
Takatmatsu & Matsuhita: No.
Oyama: *Cry*
Noda: YURI! *Disappears after protecting her*
Naoi: Now realize. You are a squirrel now Look! There are nuts over there!
Hinata: YOUR RIGHT! I must feast on them!
Otonashi: HINATA?!
Naoi: *watches*
Yuri: *facepalm*
Fujimaki: *drowns*
Shiina: *pats puppies*
Christ: I love you XP-tan *rubs against*
Kanade: *tilts head* ....Mapo tofu please?

*Somewhere else*

TK: Dance like you are in it to win it, yooo!



XD Well... I can't wait now. :3

[Travisaw]

The culprit is Christ.

He didn't appear for quite awhile, that definitely gave him the time to move.

Christ had brainwashed the members of the Guild, during his time of absence, when the SSS were busy with the Kanade clones. He created the shadows with his laptop, and took over the Guild. When that was done, he had the Guild members steal some computers from the Library.

Then, Christ would program the brainwashed Guild members into repeating the shadow monsters program by using the stolen computers, thus, there was an increase in the shadow monsters, which began attacking the NPCs and members of the SSS at random at the surface.

His motive is because he wanted others to recognize him.


In this episode, we saw that Christ had a blog.
That might have been the cause, although the chances are low, it might have manifested the shadows through his wishes unconsciously.

EDIT:
Just re-watched.
The way I read Christ's latest/last blog, I had the feeling that he had not completely let go of everything, seeing how he is re-affirming his resolve by repeating it, which further enforces my theory.


~Travis

[Marcus H.]

It's a possibility, but saying that the weather is gonna improve over the next few days can mean a lot of things, one of which would be important for the plot for the Last Two.

My interpretation is that he's finally noticed something beyond the computer that he's been clutching on ever since he got around here and, for the first time, is optimistic about things. I've always seen him as a person who thinks too much and that blog was too simple for a guy who knows Pi up to 30 digits.

I'll support the suspicion of some people regarding Takamatsu's "devolution" and say that he might be one of the forces behind the Shadowpurge Incident.

[PNGO]

But wasn't the first one attacked Oyama, at the end of episode 10? And then he was the one who saw Takamatsu getting assimilated...

Well but Takamatsu was the first one to actually "die" (if you can call it that).

[seiftis]

Other than Christ... What if it's the guy who held Yuri's pic (Noda?). Knowing Otonashi's plan to make everyone disappear, he's afraid that Yuri will disappear as well, thus making this Shadow plan to make her an NPC (which will make her stay with him in that world).

[/random-theory]

[Xellos-_^]

Other than Christ... What if it's the guy who held Yuri's pic (Noda?). Knowing Otonashi's plan to make everyone disappear, he's afraid that Yuri will disappear as well, thus making this Shadow plan to make her an NPC (which will make her stay with him).

[/random-theory]

he is a baka

[kitten320]

Other than Christ... What if it's the guy who held Yuri's pic (Noda?). Knowing Otonashi's plan to make everyone disappear, he's afraid that Yuri will disappear as well, thus making this Shadow plan to make her an NPC (which will make her stay with him in that world).

[/random-theory]

So far it is the most unbelievable theory for me... if that happens, I will bite myself...

[KaneDragon]

Might as well throw out what I posted on 4chan earlier, with all the theorizing going on:


TK dancing all night long by himself at the school (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.jpg/); doesn't afraid of anything.

Crazy baby.

Crazy for you!

Zetsubou no carnival!

Everyone's invited to the carnival (http://img810.imageshack.us/i/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.jpg/).


http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8282/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4fw.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4fw.jpg/)

TK confirmed for final boss.

[seiftis]

TK confirmed for final boss.

Throwing more random things? Alright, here's from RC blog's comments:
TK stands for:
- Traitor King
- Team Killer

[JiffyGB]

TK confirmed for final boss.

So long as I find out what he's hiding underneath that bandanna. What do you have to hide, TK!?
I knew I should never have trusted someone who can dance that well. :mad:

[Crontica]

Hmm Travis's theory is also sound, but we have not seen any direct evidence of NPC's being hacked through code besides Naoi.

[Click This]

I doubt Takamatsu is the culprit. Naoi was attacked the same way, but Otonashi was able to shake the shadow off. Whoever was behind the shadow probably has a real Takamatsu hostage in Guild, and created a Takamatsu clone to throw off the SSS members.

[Knightrunner]

Maybe Takmastsu soul is taken hostage and if Yurippe beat the culprit and the shadows his soul will return to his body. The eyes are focus upon Takmastsu showing that he still might be able to snap out of the shadows power or highjack his body like Greed in Fullmetal.

[Archon_Wing]

The main question I'm asking right now is WHY? Why would someone want to take such extreme measures and turn people into NPCs? Whoever it has to be has to be a huge asshole.

They may want to play God (but Naoi's kinda out of the question, and it'd be really stupid if he was it). So who else? Is someone so dissatisfied with the turn of events that they'd do something so horrible? Maybe they're so afraid, they'd resort to sacrificing others? I'm sure hoping it's not someone we've not seen before or someone with really flimsy motivation. But right now, just why??

[Qikz]

I doubt Takamatsu is the culprit. Naoi was attacked the same way, but Otonashi was able to shake the shadow off. Whoever was behind the shadow probably has a real Takamatsu hostage in Guild, and created a Takamatsu clone to throw off the SSS members.

The thing is, Ooyama said when he saw him and when we even saw him, he was putting up no resistance to the shadow atall.

[Marcus H.]

Takamatsu's descent has massive vibes of Aizen on it. I dunno why. :uhoh:

[kitten320]

But Takamatsu eyes had been different.

[Dark_Force9999]

A virus/antivirus was downloaded into the digital world of what they call an afterlife. Now it's trying to reconfigure everyone to stop rebellion and disappear like they should be.

[Haak]

http://s307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/matr1x_zzz/Angel%20Beats/1276278853849.jpg
Is that supposed to be a Cowboy Bebop reference or something?

[pseudonhym]

http://s307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/matr1x_zzz/Angel%20Beats/1276278853849.jpg
Is that supposed to be a Cowboy Bebop reference or something?

First thing I remember when I saw that was a Guns n' Roses song.

[Qikz]

The thing is, Ooyama said when he saw him and when we even saw him, he was putting up no resistance to the shadow atall.

Sorry to quote my own post, but I just realised, Takamatsu is pretty damn strong, Naoi isn't which is why he couldn't fight off the shadows, but as Otonashi showed, it only takes a small shove to get them off of you, surely if Takamatsu had struggled, with his stregnth he would of easily beaten them with his pure stregnth?

[Marcus H.]

Actually, "Knockin' on heaven's door" is a TRIPLE REFERENCE.

It's the title of a famous Guns n' Roses song (which eventually has another version by Avril Lavigne), it's somewhat related to Cowboy Bebop (I dunno the specifics though), and part of it is the title of the Angel Beats! Manga: Heaven's Door.

[Haak]

Actually, it originated from Bob Dylan apparently. =P

[blewin]

so funny seeing Hinata and Naoi fighting over Otonashi. :D
I wonder whether the last scene in the OP foreshadows the ending?

[DragoZERO]

This is a great series. You can see where they are cutting corners, but they are covering their bases when they do it, which is good to see for a change.

[kitten320]

I wonder whether the last scene in the OP foreshadows the ending?

You mean something like Yuri and Kanade staying but everyone else moving on?

[DragoZERO]

You mean something like Yuri and Kanade staying but everyone else moving on?
I think Otonashi will be the last to leave. He won't go until everyone is safe, that's how he is. Yuri will hold on til the very end, but I think that Otonashi will make her go...if she does in fact go.

It would have been so great if they animated the entire story, from the beginning of the SSS to the end of this story here.

[Eater of All]

And Angel Beats finally becomes an actual detective anime.... :p

Sorry to quote my own post, but I just realised, Takamatsu is pretty damn strong, Naoi isn't which is why he couldn't fight off the shadows, but as Otonashi showed, it only takes a small shove to get them off of you, surely if Takamatsu had struggled, with his stregnth he would of easily beaten them with his pure stregnth?

Getting wrapped by these seemingly massless shadows is not the same as getting pinned down by a person; using brute force won't break them apart. From what I can gleam from the assault of Naoi, they attack by engulfing your entire body (like some kind of semi-cohesive liquid) and then slowly try to "enter" you. During that time, you're completely incapacitated.

As for Otonashi's shove thing, notice how the shadow was still attached to Naoi when he's rolling and only afterwards did it let go of its own accord to attack the others.

[OkamiNoKaze]

Wow, what a great episode. Things are moving in an interesting direction, All those shadows reminded me of the old game Ico.

[Click This]

Sorry to quote my own post, but I just realised, Takamatsu is pretty damn strong, Naoi isn't which is why he couldn't fight off the shadows, but as Otonashi showed, it only takes a small shove to get them off of you, surely if Takamatsu had struggled, with his stregnth he would of easily beaten them with his pure stregnth?

There's not enough evidence, though. Who knows what the shadow was trying to do to begin with? Maybe it wanted Otonashi instead of Naoi. Takamatsu may have been overpowered because he was the immediate focus of the shadow. Remember, Oyama tried to get the shadow off with no avail.

[kitten320]

I think Otonashi will be the last to leave. He won't go until everyone is safe, that's how he is. Yuri will hold on til the very end, but I think that Otonashi will make her go...if she does in fact go.

It would have been so great if they animated the entire story, from the beginning of the SSS to the end of this story here.

Well that's what I was thinking too though if go by OP sequence, at the end we see only Kanade and Yuri who are surrounded by soul lights.

[risingstar3110]

Well that's what I was thinking too though if go by OP sequence, at the end we see only Kanade and Yuri who are surrounded by soul lights.
The first two there, also are the final two? .... Yeah i think it's possible for such ending...

[Marcus H.]

Is it possible that Angel Player is actually a program more similar to Vocaloid than anything? :3
That Kanade has utilized just a part of the program (which has commands similar to musical terms)?

And by the way, what was the name of Kanade's new Guard Skill? I'm pretty certain that wings are part of her Guard Skills.

[Khu]

Is it possible that Angel Player is actually a program more similar to Vocaloid than anything? :3
That Kanade has utilized just a part of the program (which has commands similar to musical terms)?

And by the way, what was the name of Kanade's new Guard Skill? I'm pretty certain that wings are part of her Guard Skills.

Debunked already, that last one. Confirmed by Naoi, Christ and Kanade herself to be purely cosmetic.

[Marcus H.]

I wonder why it exists. Or perhaps, she made it herself?

[Khu]

...

Otonashi said she should.

[DragoZERO]

...

Otonashi said she should.
Yeah, you'd think Kanade couldn't get any cuter, but then she goes and makes wings because he said so.

[Haak]

I wonder why it exists. Or perhaps, she made it herself?

Dude, don't you rmember what Otonashi said in Episode 10? He suggested Kanade make wings to look more 'angelic'.

[Marcus H.]

No, I meant that ENTIRE ANGEL PLAYER PROGRAM. O_O

Khu's reply prolly started the confusion, as my first question is targeted to the true nature of the Angel Player Program (is it a "natural" object from the afterlife or something Kanade programmed herself) and the second is just to know what's the name of Kanade's Wing Guard Skill.

Khu just answered half of the first and half of the second. :P

[DragoZERO]

Okay, that is a good question. Why didn't Yuri get her hands on a copy too? They have a computer. I wonder if there is something more to the program.

[Raiza Sunozaki]

Okay, that is a good question. Why didn't Yuri get her hands on a copy too? They have a computer. I wonder if there is something more to the program.

It's in complex English. You forget, a vast majority of the SSS are complete idiots. I suspect the only ones who could actually understand it are Yuzuru to a small extent (he was training to be a doctor, and multiple languages is very useful for that), Christ to a smaller extent (though through trial and error, he could probably get the hang of the coding), Yuri is an even smaller extent (as we've seen her do), and the SSS's English-understanding friends.
They're too busy playing mahjong in class, holding concerts/stealing meal tickets and fighting with Kanade to mess around with programming.

[DragoZERO]

It's in complex English. You forget, a vast majority of the SSS are complete idiots. I suspect the only ones who could actually understand it are Yuzuru to a small extent (he was training to be a doctor, and multiple languages is very useful for that), Christ to a smaller extent (though through trial and error, he could probably get the hang of the coding), Yuri is an even smaller extent (as we've seen her do), and the SSS's English-understanding friends.
They're too busy playing mahjong in class, holding concerts/stealing meal tickets and fighting with Kanade to mess around with programming.
Ah, I see. I forgot that it was in English, lol. Thanks for the clarification.

[Sinestra]

Yeah, you'd think Kanade couldn't get any cuter, but then she goes and makes wings because he said so.

Yea i thought so too. When she explained that "someone" said she would look cuter if she made wings in that soft voice of hers i almost squealed like a little girl. Then she went Iron Chef on those shadows and i thought how something so cute can be so damn deadly. Kanade is way more effective when she following a plan or orders and it seems the only one who can do that is Otonashi.

I like how Yuri explained once again that she just does what she wants. Because of her personality everyone else just happen to follow along with her. But this time she made sure that everyone makes their own decision about what path they want to follow.

what decision would you guys make?

[Haak]

what decision would you guys make?

I don't like going into unknown teritory so I'd like to know everything there is to know about this 'afterlife' before making sure it's okay to leave. So I would've probably stuck with the SSS and find out what those 'shadows' are. Well...it's easy for me to say that now, but honestly, you never really know until you actually have to make such a decision.

[Raiza Sunozaki]

what decision would you guys make?

With a leader like her, I'd follow her to the end. If I ended up joining her SSS, I know I'd grow to become friends with the people around me. It may be silly, placing myself into the anime, but it's the only way I can make this kind of decision.
I don't like leaving my friends behind. It might be some stupid chivalry, some random bit of male hormones interfearing with my logical judgement, but so be it. So even if I had to leave my friends who were going on ahead of me, I'd make sure she didn't get left behind.

[chill.]

if you listen to the preview for the next episode, someone says "You've done well to reach here" and that's probably the culprit.

the voice sounds like it's male, but performed by a female voice actress

it sounds a lot like naoi. so the culprit is either Naoi or someone new

also, someone says "Disappear like miserable toilet paper!". Sounds a lot like Fujisaki/Noda, but maybe could be Hinata, and could be a reference to when Naoi hypnotized him with toilet paper keyword

edit: actually just read this post on page 2

Ok, hope this helps people.
c68-Otonashi, c54-TK, c59-Matsushida (or maybe Noda), c48-Ooyama, c94-Noda, c51-Noda, c116-Yuri, c7-Hinata, c44-Noda, c81-Shiina, c26-Hisako, c217-Kaworu(Eva) CV:Ishida Akira, c174-Otonashi, c157-Yuri.
In other words there's one more person who thinks himself as a God. And he is our lovely Shinji(Naoi)-kun's partner Kaworu-kun.

This ep was so fast-paced. I can't really say I liked it. There were a lot of unnecessary things, unanswered questions, etc. I'm not satisfitied with it. But Yuri was awesome and I liked how Otonashi caressed Kanade-chan.

yea if it's ishida akira then either someone new or naoi's split personality (possibly his twin?)

[Knightrunner]

what decision would you guys make?

I would join the SSS too, but first I would see what the SSS is all about. I think personally I would be one of those shadow like characters since I would do my own thing, but help out if it doesn't require to get myself killed.lol.

With a leader like her, I'd follow her to the end. If I ended up joining her SSS, I know I'd grow to become friends with the people around me. It may be silly, placing myself into the anime, but it's the only way I can make this kind of decision.
I don't like leaving my friends behind. It might be some stupid chivalry, some random bit of male hormones interfearing with my logical judgement, but so be it. So even if I had to leave my friends who were going on ahead of me, I'd make sure she didn't get left behind.

I would want everyone to move on too before being captured by those shadow things. lol I think stupid chivalry works because I'm the same way.

[Sinestra]

Id probably go with the SSS as well. What can i say i love a challenge. unknown enemy, low odds of survival, lots of guns and ammo, kick ass friends and cute girl with angel wings id be crazy not to join. Except that whole losing your soul thing :D

Id probably stay behind to help the noobs that would be arriving in afterlife find their way for a couple hundred years before moving on.

[KaneDragon]

It's in complex English.
And who do we know who speaks English? ;)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4451/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.th.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.jpg/)

[risingstar3110]

Well i will stay with Yuri . I don't believe in the lost of soul, so a move-on is a death and turning to NPC is also a death. And there's something worth to trade my life for...

[Xellos-_^]

Well i will stay with Yuri . I don't believe in the lost of soul, so a move-on is a death and turning to NPC is also a death. And there's something worth to trade my life for...
the point is you are already dead.

[boredandlazy]

And who do we know who speaks English? ;)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4451/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.th.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/mazuiangelbeats11xvid4f.jpg/)

It was already mentioned in an earlier episode that TK can't read english.

[KaneDragon]

It was already mentioned in an earlier episode that TK can't read english.
Only mentioned that he was on lookout duty instead of working on a translation, right? That he was useless at English was someone else's unanswered assumption. Taking the sum of his nonsensical phrases, isn't it a more reasonable assumption that he just can't communicate what he reads (i.e. useless at Japanese), or insists on 'answering' any questions with a moonwalk? :p

And if he's secretly an evil mastermind dancing in the shadow, he's naturally going to play dumb. :)

[Dark_Force9999]

It was already mentioned in an earlier episode that TK can't read english.

It's similar to how I can speak Vietnamese without knowing how to write/spell almost all of the Vietnamese words I use in real life or something....

[Raiza Sunozaki]

It's similar to how I can speak Vietnamese without knowing how to write/spell almost all of the Vietnamese words I use in real life or something....

Yeah. In fact, there's a large amount of Japanese people who know a handful of words in English, and what they mean, but if you hand them some English text and tell them to read it, they turn to you and say "wakarimasen."
TK is a prime example.

[AnnaDavis]

I don't want this series to end ;; And there's only two episodes left

http://vdexproject.net/p/1265/partymini.png (http://vdexproject.net/user.php?user=1265)

[Floris]

Good Episode, All I got to say.:heh:

[Circlebutton]

Unfortunately I've already given up on AB!, and I have been a Key/Visualarts loyalist since Kanon. The story is so disjointed and it's really difficult to connect with any of the characters. Much of the humor flies off like the Hindenburg...

Still, I do hope Mr. Maeda learns a lot from this production and come up with great anime originals in the future :)

[Mirrinus]

Unfortunately I've already given up on AB!, and I have been a Key/Visualarts loyalist since Kanon. The story is so disjointed and it's really difficult to connect with any of the characters. Much of the humor flies off like the Hindenburg...

Still, I do hope Mr. Maeda learns a lot from this production and come up with great anime originals in the future :)

I think my own opinions are bordering dangerously close to this. It's kind of sad that I'd rather rewatch the latest episode of Durarara!! than start episode 11 of Angel Beats!

To its credit, I did laugh a lot during episode 5...then my interest kind of went downhill after 6. 10 was good, but the haphazard direction of the series is really taking its toll. Given Jun Maeda's track record of confusing deus ex machina endings, I won't be holding my breath here.

Kanade's a good character, though. I really like her...and pretty much no one else. OK, so Hinata and Yui had some funny interactions, but that's currently no longer on the table, now is it? (I'm sorry, as funny as the meme was, TK's just kind of lost his spark.)

[Wrath88]

Somehow I suspect Matsushita 5th Dan or that expressionless reporter girl, the former because he lacks an alibi, the latter, I dunno, a hunch.

[Random32]

Unfortunately I've already given up on AB!, and I have been a Key/Visualarts loyalist since Kanon. The story is so disjointed and it's really difficult to connect with any of the characters. Much of the humor flies off like the Hindenburg...

Still, I do hope Mr. Maeda learns a lot from this production and come up with great anime originals in the future :)

Maeda has probably learned that 13 episodes is far to short for his stories judging from what he said in the interview thing. I personally think if this was 26 or even 52 episodes, it would have turned out much better.

[chill.]

I think my own opinions are bordering dangerously close to this. It's kind of sad that I'd rather rewatch the latest episode of Durarara!! than start episode 11 of Angel Beats!

To its credit, I did laugh a lot during episode 5...then my interest kind of went downhill after 6. 10 was good, but the haphazard direction of the series is really taking its toll. Given Jun Maeda's track record of confusing deus ex machina endings, I won't be holding my breath here.

Kanade's a good character, though. I really like her...and pretty much no one else. OK, so Hinata and Yui had some funny interactions, but that's currently no longer on the table, now is it? (I'm sorry, as funny as the meme was, TK's just kind of lost his spark.)

the haphazard direction of the series is actually what is keeping me interested. in so many animes i can really predict future events or even the ending pretty easily.

angel beats starts with a cold start in medias res. you are put off balance from the very beginning. then, once you gain a somewhat complete understanding of how the world works, they keep knocking you off balance.

after episode 4 i thought that the rest of the series would be about people getting erased one by one, and we'd get to see their backstories. having tachibana get evil clones? adding in shadow monsters? these unexpected antagonists threw me off balance just as i was getting comfortable. i'd argue that keeping the viewer unsteady is the one consistent theme in the series. once you think things will proceed in a linear fashion, they take a turn.

the strange direction of events adds a lot to the drama, and is what keeps me coming back

[[X].I.E.[N]]

Maeda has probably learned that 13 episodes is far to short for his stories judging from what he said in the interview thing. I personally think if this was 26 or even 52 episodes, it would have turned out much better.

agree, this 13 episode is not enough to tell us, especially about Shiina & TK
i didn't know their past, and how Yuri could die, coz after falling from a ladder she still alive

[eiyuu99]

Guess things have to be left hanging.

[Haak]

Why did Otonashi have to get in the way? I was really hoping to see what Hinata would do if he were convinced he was toilet paper...

[Khu]

...

ew dude.

just ew.

[Archon_Wing]

Quick delete the post before someone writes a fanfic about it. :o
edit: We're too late

[blitz1/2]

Why did Otonashi have to get in the way? I was really hoping to see what Hinata would do if he were convinced he was toilet paper...

I thought Hinata was under the impression when he did that 360 descent (much like how paper gets flushed down)

[Knightrunner]

I watched this episode again and it was great seeing them fight the shadow's again :)