Infinite Stratos - Light Novel/Manga Discussion

[Athena]

From what I read he cant his male friends during school days.

Gotanda was one.

Though I don't think it was ever mentioned that he couldn't make any male friend...

[sky black swordman]

Gotanda was one.

Though I don't think it was ever mentioned that he couldn't make any male friend...

Sorry what I meant to was From what I read he cant meet his male friends during school days

He has other male friends if I remeber right . What dont from time to time hang out with your friends after school. He cant do that while at IS academy . Even then the Weekends are 50-50 chance he can meet up with them.

[ZeroXSEED]

Indeed, the way Ichika yearn for a guy friends is the closest thing to a common sense if you think about it. People keep saying that it's heaven and he should be grateful being surrounded by girls like that... except he is not interested in romance, and thus losing what it mean to have a normal life.

[Eratas123]

People comment on it because he's acting WAY too clingy from the get go. I can understand being relieved, I would be too in his position, but blushing at Charles, holding hands with him, and insisting they get naked and take baths together isn't the right wayto about it.

All in all, it seems like Ichika has only 2 guy friends. He mentions his "friends from middle school" are throwing him a party, but only Dan and Kazuma show up.

[dragonroots]

If i were the only guy in a school of girls i'd be very insecure, i have trouble talking to girls when other guys are around, talking to girls with no guys around i'd probably say way too many stupid things.

[Yye1]

Remember how freaked out and nervous he was when he entered the school? I would be the same. I'm straight, but once in a while I need some Bro-time with a guy friend, so I understood Ichika getting clingy with charles

[Athena]

I wonder if Ihika ever fell in love with a girl when he was younger....first love in the next volume? :D

...wait, then it'd mean that Saint Ichika won't be Saint Ichika anymore. So screw that. :heh:

[Eratas123]

He did fall in love with someone. Chifuyu-nee in his memories taking baths with him apparently might lead to things he shouldn't be thinking of.

[Athena]

He did fall in love with someone. Chifuyu-nee in his memories taking baths with him apparently might lead to things he shouldn't be thinking of.

:heh:

I wonder what did Chifuyu look like when she was in high school.

[tsunade666]

Having Chifuyu as a sister probably sets his standards too high -_- or Ichika is onto older girls.

[sky black swordman]

:heh:

I wonder what did Chifuyu look like when she was in high school.

I think Madoka is a good example of what she look like in high school.

Having Chifuyu as a sister probably sets his standards too high -_- or Ichika is onto older girls.

Thats for sure on both part bro. I think about that scene with Yamada sensei

Hu, those breasts are huge...bigger than Chifuyu-nee's...

How do you know Ichika is it by looking or have you touched her breast before?
Just "close" are they are they?

[Eratas123]

It's funny that he immediately compares them to Chifuyu like that. No other female friends?

[Flere821]

It's funny that he immediately compares them to Chifuyu like that. No other female friends?
IIRC, the only other girls he was close with before entering IS academy was Houki (who he haven't seen for a long time), Rin (friend-zoned with the lunch thing), and the younger sister of this friend back in middle school who he never saw as anything else other than the friend's sister (ie, not even on the 'friend-zoned' level) :heh:

So no, chances are he had no other female friends to compare it with (Houki was a kid back when he knew her, and Rin was, well... flat :heh: The friend's sister didn't even count as a friend, so not eligible for 'friends for comparison')

[Eratas123]

They are friends, I think. Ichika treats her like he treats every other female: Like staring at a brick wall.

[ZeroXSEED]

^ cold hard truth the girls never accept :nod:

[Eratas123]

Hey, I didn't say there wern't any varitations. For example: He thinks Rin and Laura are cute looking brick walls while Houki has a strong center mass. For Charlotte, she has the cutest designs and Cecilia has the most refined tastes and makings.

[Hasumi]

It's funny that he immediately compares them to Chifuyu like that. No other female friends?

Remember that time when he fell into Tatenashi's big ones and compared them to Houki's?

Yeah, neither do I.

[Eratas123]

Then he proceeded to grab Cecilia's butt and compare it to Tatenashi. I'm guessing he compares it to the last person he grabbed.

And since he compared it to Chifuyu's.......

[Hasumi]

^ What happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors. :uhoh:

[Athena]

^ What happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors. :uhoh:

What's between the lines stays between the lines.

[Xaturas]

Sex in doujins stays in doujins.

So any new info about novel or what?

[n0m@n]

No new information yet.

Well Infinite Stratos actually has lots of possibility to become a even more awesome Light Novel.


Good:
-Academy style story
-Mecha plot story(Well more like battle suit though.....)
-World wide scale story
-Harem
-Charlotte
-A evil organization
-Possibility of evolution of the IS
-The IS creator(Houki's sister) possibly plotting something serious
-Lots of parody of Gundam!


Bad:
-Orimura Ichika
-Over use of matches being interfered


Anyway there are more good points then the bad points. But the two bad points actually lowered the LN more than it should. The only way for IS to get good is either kill Ichika or make him lose his memory so he gets a different personality. Maybe it might happen........I hope.

[DarkJak2050]

Well, all we can do is wait for Kodansha to publish Vol. 8.

[sky black swordman]

What about possible Sis con and Bro con which category does that fall in to Good: or Bad: ?

[ZeroXSEED]

Good for some, bad for some, whatever for the rest.

[tsunade666]

Good would be a 180 degrees change on Ichika or just choose the girls as the Main character and erase the supposedly current MC.

[cyberdemon]

Good would be a 180 degrees change on Ichika or just choose the girls as the Main character and erase the supposedly current MC.

Maybe a good start would be making him realize that the girls have feelings for him. Awareness might ease up on his denseness a bit.

[Eratas123]

Even if he didn't realize the girls had feelings for him, he just needs to be more pro-active and rely less on luck. So far he's won by sheer luck 9/10 times and pretty much stares at the wall drooling whenever something plot significant happens.

His actions after Madoka's attack in particular show he's really damn lazy and makes no effort to find info unless it's shoved in his face.

[sky black swordman]

^ Agreed and on the subject of Madoka what are the chances she joins Ichika harem?
She would be a extremely possessive little sister.Maybe.:heh:

[Eratas123]

Not every girl exists to be placed in his Harem:/ He needs actual female friends that don't try to get in his pants every two seconds.

[ZeroXSEED]

.... such as? :rolleyes:

Why do I find the idea of Ichika and Madoka being violent best bud to each other hilarious... :uhoh:

[Eratas123]

I dunno, maybe a third childhood friend? There's also someone like Utsuho, who seems to like Dan instead.

[ZeroXSEED]

Nohonhon doesn't seem to be THAT obsessed with him either, so she may count.

[Eratas123]

Yeah, I was going to say that, but went against it. With Honne, you never know what's up with her.
I even have a theory that she's Phantom Task's leader and infiltrating the school was all part of her elaborate plan to get close to both Ichika and Tatenashi before striking them at their weakest.

Side note - Did you get the PM?

[Javiersansano]

Yeah, I was going to say that, but went against it. With Honne, you never know what's up with her.
I even have a theory that she's Phantom Task's leader and infiltrating the school was all part of her elaborate plan to get close to both Ichika and Tatenashi before striking them at their weakest.

Side note - Did you get the PM?

dafuq did you just say? Honne the leader of Phantom Task?

That sounds a little crazy, but what the hell. This is the Anime, Manga, LN... in other words, anything can happen

[Eratas123]

Tabane's also the leader of the illuminati and plans to rule the word through IS research, killing off the naturally gifted mutants in her mad conquest for power.

Yes, I'm joking. No, you're not supposed to take any of this seriously.

[yuiichi9]

Madoka can leave the organization and join IS Academy and develop a good relationship with ichika. Wether as a sibling or as a lover. If only this could come true.

[ZeroXSEED]

.... this is what happens in fanfic discussion all the time, better do not take that too seriously :heh:

On a more serious note, I'd prefer lustful hostilities vibe between them, nobody fill femme fatale role... yet. :)

[sky black swordman]

Here is something else Tabane is only intrested in 3 people 1 her best friend and her little brother and her own little sister right. Well her parents are.....eh.

If there came a day she wanted to have kids of her own the onyly person she can use to "make them" would be Ichika.:heh:
Or she just adopt like that girl at the end of volume 7.

[Eratas123]

Adoption works. Just cause she doesn't care about other people now doesn't mean she can't form new relationships.

[for3ver]

The only way for IS to get good is either kill Ichika or make him lose his memory so he gets a different personality. Maybe it might happen........I hope.

lol...

now that would be an interesting comeback for the author? ^^
(maybe turn him into a predator? ^^ now that would be an interesting sight 2 behold)

anyways... this sounds like good news... maybe i can actually go and finish volume 7 now >>

(although on a side note. wasnt it ichika's personality that made the comments funny? or was i the only 1 that thinks like this??)

[tsunade666]

(although on a side note. wasn't it ichika's personality that made the comments funny? or was i the only 1 that thinks like this??)

Yes, Yes it is :heh: he is so DUMB you can't get angry and just laugh it out.

he is the pinnacle of being dense that the girls are outright flashing their selves in front of him and his reaction was :confused: :rolleyes: what? huh? okay.

:heh: :heh: :heh: OH COME ON!!!!!

[wavehawk]

What if there's a reason he's dense? EG a mental block, or some hypnosis? It's quite possible that at some point in Ichika's life: either as a child or just after he was kidnapped, he was subjected to some hypnosis to erase or downplay those traumatic memories. And in the process someone (Chifuyu? Tabane?) also slipped in this denseness/fear aspect of other girls that prevents Ichika from managing a normal male relationship with a girl.

[wavehawk]

...I just woke up and re-read my post above and realized that's one hell of a plot bunny, better served in the fanfiction thread.

Because for some reason I don't think Yumizuru would go with that story arc.

[Eratas123]

Or maybe he's dense cause his only female contact so far has been Chifuyu (Spartan), Tabane (Crazy), Houki (Beats him up), and Rin (Likewise). The only normal girl there is Ran (Fangirl), and she's got her own problems.

Or maybe he's just naturally dense cause it's the common stereotype. But cmon, I seriously doubt something as outlandish as that is the truth.

[for3ver]

What if there's a reason he's dense? EG a mental block, or some hypnosis? It's quite possible that at some point in Ichika's life: either as a child or just after he was kidnapped, he was subjected to some hypnosis to erase or downplay those traumatic memories. And in the process someone (Chifuyu? Tabane?) also slipped in this denseness/fear aspect of other girls that prevents Ichika from managing a normal male relationship with a girl.

maybe something more along the lines of him having a traumatic expiernece with his family >>

he always did mention he didnt remember much about his past >>

and we did find out he has a supossed twin sister >>

author has 2 many plot choices...

[sapper]

i didnt no where to post this but has anyone heard of a second season yet?

[Athena]

Maybe Ichika bears an unrequited love for a girl not yet introduced, and he loves her so much that he doesn't pay attention to others?

[Richocet]

Maybe Ichika bears an unrequited love for a girl not yet introduced, and he loves her so much that he doesn't pay attention to others?

Wouldn't work cuz his feelings for his unrequited love would make him more empathic and sensible to the other girls' feelings, which he obviously isnt

[ZeroXSEED]

Well, love certainly makes you blind... and dense.

Seriously, as soon as the girls fell for him, their own subplot instantly forgotten (Dunois corp anyone?). If Guy B, who does have history with one of the girls, approaching the girl, they won't even notice. Because "Ichika this and Ichika that", of course. :|

[for3ver]

i didnt no where to post this but has anyone heard of a second season yet?

ummm..

where did you find the announcement for this?

would be interesting if it were real >>

great way 2 boast sales again >>

(once the novels go bak on sale of course >> which we are hoping they do right?)

[sky black swordman]

ummm..

where did you find the announcement for this?

would be interesting if it were real >>

great way 2 boast sales again >>

(once the novels go bak on sale of course >> which we are hoping they do right?)

I think he means this http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4219807&postcount=1510


@ZeroXSEED Thats so true is does.

[sapper]

@sky yes thats what the honey meant ;p

[wavehawk]

Maybe Ichika bears an unrequited love for a girl not yet introduced, and he loves her so much that he doesn't pay attention to others?- AGasghasglhlkas~~!!!

Are you hacking my PC and reading through my incomplete fic works? AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hasumi]

^ Somebody fund this.

[ZeroXSEED]

What are you guys smoking thinking? :p

[surerman]

- AGasghasglhlkas~~!!!

Are you hacking my PC and reading through my incomplete fic works? AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and here I am, thinking my IT subordinate is alone in the 'ability to infiltrate and steal other people data through internet connection' :p

[asaqe]

Well they are probably going to do a better adaptation of the next 3 books hopefully. And there will be a lot more lesbian antics with Squall and Autumn.

[n0m@n]

The new IS isnt revealed, but a bit of Izuru's new LN was revealed.

http://kc.kodansha.co.jp/product/top.php/1234643524


Battlefield After school

"What is this!?". I, Makishima Kaoru, just had the worst day of my life.
I was forced to join the club by the "Flash Crimson Witch" Homare who is a Ninth-Dan(level), and what I experienced after school is the battlefield where bullets are being shot. "Battlefield After school" is a surviving game which takes place in another dimension so you can earn money while holding onto a electric gun.
This is a paradise and a battlefield for High schoolers.
It is the start of Youth survival game entertainment without any argument!



Yeah.......
Its so f*cked up....... When this came out in jap blog, no one understood what the author is trying to say....... It's even more weird because what does "dan(level in karate)" has to do with this.....


By the way its coming out in 2nd of August, so about 2 weeks from now.

[sky black swordman]

:eyebrow: ^ Hmm sounds interesting .

[DarkJak2050]

Well maybe Izuru will be switching in between IS and Battlefield After School.

After Vol. 1 of Battlefield After School's release, then he'll get back to Vol. 8 of IS.

[ZeroXSEED]

AFAIK Dan generally denotes level in many martial arts, though commonly associated with Karate. So it could be that this BAS is a new sport branch or something like that.

[Hasumi]

As soon as that comes out we need someone to pitch it for BT. :p

[tsunade666]

Battle field after school sounds GGO and AW to me combined >_>

and GGO are for pro's that wants money in their game while AW school setting that use game to cheat on the world.

Electric gun.... if I see hecate there I will rage :frustrated:

[Yye1]

u know wat i think, they should have an IS that is based on Turn A gundam and Moonlight Butterfly, Ichika wont stand a chance

[chad001]

u know wat i think, they should have an IS that is based on Turn A gundam and Moonlight Butterfly, Ichika wont stand a chance

Isn't the ability of Moonlight Butterfly to destroy ALL technology on the planet? I think that's... a little overkill to beat one guy...

[ZeroXSEED]

Well, certainly if that guy hates all I.S., Moonlight Butterfly will come handy...

Oh god that sounds like a cheap marty stu OC material :uhoh:

[tsunade666]

Ichika? that guy is useless by piloting skills if you ask me compare to the girls >_> his just lucky that he got good IS with good sister and Tabane roots for him.

[n0m@n]

They could actually add one new guy who can also use IS.

Im not sexist, but only having girls as your competitors seems lacking. We need a guy who is superior than Ichika in terms of using IS and handling girls. That way, even Ichika will realize how dense he is and will be more eager not to get his ass handled by everyone.

This is actually the first LN where I dont mind if there would be a character who would be a threat of taking the girls from the MC. Yeah......Thats how much Ichika's denseness got to me....

[Riki]

They could actually add one new guy who can also use IS.

Im not sexist, but only having girls as your competitors seems lacking. We need a guy who is superior than Ichika in terms of using IS and handling girls. That way, even Ichika will realize how dense he is and will be more eager not to get his ass handled by everyone.

This is actually the first LN where I dont mind if there would be a character who would be a threat of taking the girls from the MC. Yeah......Thats how much Ichika's denseness got to me....

then make the male has a crush on chifuyu that'll make ichika run for his money hahaha

[tsunade666]

But having a male pilot will lessen the reason for making Ichika special. He will be normal or ordinary or idiot or dumb or retard or just die already ICHIKA!

Its funny when they did it with Charle but we know how that ended up with >_>

[sky black swordman]

then make the male has a crush on chifuyu that'll make ichika run for his money hahaha

Yes I like this one. His siscon will come to the surface.:heh:

[n0m@n]

Ichika wont get mad if it's other girls but if it comes to Chifuyu he would be like "Someone like you wont be good enough for my sister!!".

[ZeroXSEED]

^ Quoted for truth

[Riki]

Ichika wont get mad if it's other girls but if it comes to Chifuyu he would be like "Someone like you wont be good enough for my sister!!".

then the other harem members will be pissed at ichika's attitude then more mayhem..~~but this novel although being harem its kinda one-sided to houki though

[chad001]

then the other harem members will be pissed at ichika's attitude then more mayhem..~~but this novel although being harem its kinda one-sided to houki though

The sad thing is, we know that, but it's not because of chemistry. It's because she has the highest number of 'events' and 'flags', not because they actually work as a couple. To be honest, those two at least, haven't reached an emotional maturity necessary to handle a relationship, let alone the resulting clusterfuck in the harem-dynamics and relations that would result. Either the LNs are going to end on an ambiguous 'no-decision' ending, or someone's going to smack Ichika int he face and tell him that he loves Houki whereupon he'll be all like 'Oh yeah! why didn't I see that all along! Now I have to go rescue her!' And then magical romance will fall from the sky and bequeath upon the happy couple eternal bliss and all the problems will be resolved through magic.

*Sigh* It's no wonder so many series are so dark and edgy, or at least less happy then some of the earlier generations, if these are the kind of cliches we have to work with... NO

[sky black swordman]

then the other harem members will be pissed at ichika's attitude then more mayhem..~~but this novel although being harem its kinda one-sided to houki though

Well yeah she is the Main girl , but the most popular and favorite girl that most fans want to win is Charlotte.

[Crimson Cloak]

I think i may understand Ichika's denseness now.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/leaf_shinobi88/infinite-stratos-3463745.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/leaf_shinobi88/infinite-stratos-3463747.jpg

It would appear that it might be a case of selective obliviousness. :heh:

Might I just say that out of all of them, Charlotte scares me the most. :uhoh:

[dragonroots]

@Crimson Cloak Charlotte gives the most intense aura, while imo Houki looks the scariest.

[Eratas123]

Charlotte's scary because she does all of these things with a smile:/ Hell, she was acting kind and polite when a couple of idiots tried to flirt with her.....then you look in her head and she's imagining 4 different ways to kill them.

[ZeroXSEED]

And yet everyone acted as if "Charu is soooo moe, everyone else is a bitch"

Perhaps even the audience also have a case of Selective Obliviousness.

[Eratas123]

No, it's just because it remains in her thoughts alone. If Houki just thought about smacking Ichika instead of doing it, then she wouldn't get as much complaints.

[sky black swordman]

No, it's just because it remains in her thoughts alone. If Houki just thought about smacking Ichika instead of doing it, then she wouldn't get as much complaints.

Yeah that true I mean doesn't she know that hitting him the way she does will cost her points with him.

I would not be surprise if he became a M.:heh:


Charlotte's scary because she does all of these things with a smile
This is true you cant tell which Charlotte your getting when she is smiling.
A angel of mercy or A merciless angel.:uhoh:

[Crimson Cloak]

"Why, you say.... Huh? Charl, could it be that you're angry?"

"Why do you say that? There's nothing of the sort. I'm not angry at all, you know."

Aaah! I can see the angry blood-vessel mark & fire behind her back! Why! Why are you angry Charl!
"Ichika, a watch is a necessity if you want to be a stylish boy, you know."

"I-If you say that...."

Somehow, I feel like I'm compelled to follow her advice. Why is that, I wonder.

"T-That's why, let's go to the front of the station this weekend. Besides, I also want to look for some clothes."

"I-Is that so. Well, let's go then."

"R-Really!? I-It's a promise! You absolutely have to come!"

Charl then held out her pinky finger after saying that.

Since learning about Japanese custom of doing Yubikiri Genman[6A 8], Charl seems to be strangely infatuated with doing this.

Since there's no particular reason for me to refuse her, every time I indulge her request to do it.

"Yubikiri Genman, anyone breaking the promise will have to eat a cluster bomb."

And every time, the settlement phrase is always extraordinarily scary.

Charl, how do I say it... she seems to be the scariest one when angered, doesn't she.

I guess Ichika agrees. :heh:

[Eratas123]

Oh, you can just feel the sub zero aura coming out when she's mad. No one really avoids beating up Ichika, save for Ran and Maya. Everybody else hit him at least once.

[chad001]

Oh, you can just feel the sub zero aura coming out when she's mad. No one really avoids beating up Ichika, save for Ran and Maya. Everybody else hit him at least once.

Well, now you know who I'm rooting for...

[Eratas123]

Well, Kanzashi was justified in trying to hit him. She warned him more than once to stay away and even stepped on her biggest button by mentioning her IS. Coming from the guy who's the reason she doesn't have one, I'd say it's not a big deal.

[chad001]

Well, Kanzashi was justified in trying to hit him. She warned him more than once to stay away and even stepped on her biggest button by mentioning her IS. Coming from the guy who's the reason she doesn't have one, I'd say it's not a big deal.

I liked her too, but let's face it, even Tabane has more appearances than her so far... and she's not even in the running...

[Eratas123]

THat's cause of the untimely hiatus:/ She even came the closest to confessing, but Ichika was a dunderhead as usual.

[sky black swordman]

She even came the closest to confessing, but Ichika was a dunderhead as usual. Hold on there both thing are true that But as Kanzashi realized she did it the wrong way: She recalled the confession.

"You like?"

"Y-Yes...I like..."

"Is that so—"

...Huh? Kanzashi stopped in her tracks.

She thought through it carefully again.

They talked about anime.

↓

Do you like it?

↓

Yes, I do.

↓

Is that so—

...Huh, huh, huh? That-That means...

"Did he just ask me, whether, I like...anime, or something...?"[7D 18]

There was no assumption. That was what he basically asked.

"U~!!!!!!"

[Eratas123]

Yeah, I remember that:heh: Still, what a damn coincidence they were talking about something she loved......while she was trying to confess her love.

It's like that story where the couple tries to kiss and always get interrupted by a random skateboard/door opening/boomerang/flashing camera/sneeze.

[chad001]

Yeah, I remember that:heh: Still, what a damn coincidence they were talking about something she loved......while she was trying to confess her love.

It's like that story where the couple tries to kiss and always get interrupted by a random skateboard/door opening/boomerang/flashing camera/sneeze.

Coincidence? I THINK NOT! This is a result of Ichika's EX rank in Density. So dense is he, that a singularity is forming within his head, and one day it will grow into a black hole, consuming him and the entire world!

[sky black swordman]

^ EX? You mean S ? Of so then you are wrong he is A at best .
That guy from kampfer was a true S or higher.:heh:

[chad001]

^ EX? You mean S ? Of so then you are wrong he is A at best .
That guy from kampfer was a true S or higher.:heh:

Actually, LN-wise, the guy from Kampfer ends up actually picking one of them (not the psycho-lesbian to boot!) so he's actually less dense...

And I was using the Fate/Stay Night Parameter system, which doesn't have an 'S' with 'A' being highest measurable, and EX being immeasurable.

[Crimson Cloak]

Ichika seems to have a mindset where he believes "there's no way she can like me." So, with that mindset set to hardcore mode, he'll immediately take any action and interpret it in a platonic manner, no matter what it is. I should know, since when I was in high school apparently there were girls in my school that had a crush on me which was obvious to everyone. Except me. :heh:

[Eratas123]

Unless you're really self confident, most humans tend to deny people liking them until they flat out say it. This especially works with friends since you might be wrong and end up ruining your friendship because you accuse him/her of liking you.

There's nothing more embarrassing than saying "You like me, right" and getting an "Uh, no not really" in response. The guy from Countrouble shows it best.

[Yye1]

IMO, Ichika is like Touma from Index, an A++ rank in Density, as they cannot be EX cuz they both have some attraction to females, with Ichika to Tatenashi and Houki (to a degree) and Touma to oneesan types, but they have an EX rating in terms of releasing female attracting pheromones

[Eratas123]

There's a theory that Touma knows what going on, but he's suppressing it because the "weakest" member of said harem is a vampire killer. Other main contenders include the walking lighting storm, the person who can fight against out of world creatures, a member of a group of secret agents, and even beer guzzling loli teacher who controls his grades.

Make a choice, and you'll end up dead anyway. Same deal with Ichika: "Uh...it feels like no matter what I say, It's not gonna turn out good for me."

[chad001]

There's a theory that Touma knows what going on, but he's suppressing it because the "weakest" member of said harem is a vampire killer. Other main contenders include the walking lighting storm, the person who can fight against out of world creatures, a member of a group of secret agents, and even beer guzzling loli teacher who controls his grades.

Make a choice, and you'll end up dead anyway. Same deal with Ichika: "Uh...it feels like no matter what I say, It's not gonna turn out good for me."

Heard the theory about Touma before, only now applying it to Ichika... Thinking about it, it's bad enough that it has been remarked that his harem is enough for an army in itself, if we think about the political ramifications if he actually chooses someone and infighting breaks out; we should just be glad he didn't manage to tame Natasha or else it would go from 90% clusterf*ck to 100% clusterf*ck. I mean, France (Charl) , England (Cecilia), China (Rin), Japan (Kanzashi), Germany (Laura), and Russia (Tatenashi), that's pretty much every country with any real political power nowadays (especially if you include Natasha), if they all started fighting, it would actually be WWIII. And let's not even think about what would happen if he doesn't pick Houki and she goes crying to Tabane... *shudder*, or even worse, if Chifuyu joins in on the fighting...

HOLY SH*T Ichika's density is the only thing between them and world destruction!

[Eratas123]

Well, Ichika's probably an actual idiot. The story's in 1st person POV a lot of times and he acts completely confused. Contrast to Kinji who's blatantly ignoring it.

Ichika:

"Hm? Her skin's so red and she's breathing deeply whenever I get near her.....she must be sick!"

Kinji:

"Hm, I saw a list that said 'Kin-chan's future bride'.....welp, it's obviously pointless. I'm never going to get a wife!

See the difference. He knows what it is, but covers it up and says it's unimportant.

[chad001]

Well, Ichika's probably an actual idiot. The story's in 1st person POV a lot of times and he acts completely confused. Contrast to Kinji who's blatantly ignoring it.

Ichika:

"Hm? Her skin's so red and she's breathing deeply whenever I get near her.....she must be sick!"

Kinji:

"Hm, I saw a list that said 'Kin-chan's future bride'.....welp, it's obviously pointless. I'm never going to get a wife!

See the difference. He knows what it is, but covers it up and says it's unimportant.

"You...don't tell me you would really ignore a girl when the girl says 'don't bother me'?"
"Yup."
Isn't that obvious? If the girl doesn't want others to bother her, isn't it better to ignore her?

Nuff said.

[Eratas123]

You know, maybe he'd actually fall for the girls if they were less.......homicidal.

[chad001]

You know, maybe he'd actually fall for the girls if they were less.......homicidal.

True enough. Bringing up the previous topic, their easy acceptance of violence and potential murder as a solution not only limits his ability to choose but his desire to do so as well.

[Eratas123]

Amen to that:/ What boggles the mind is that he continuously acts like he doesn't get the crap beaten out of him on a regular basis. He has no problem commenting on Houki or Charlotte's cuteness right after they tried to murder him in the last part.

[chad001]

Amen to that:/ What boggles the mind is that he continuously acts like he doesn't get the crap beaten out of him on a regular basis. He has no problem commenting on Houki or Charlotte's cuteness right after they tried to murder him in the last part.

Ah, the weakness of 'nice-guy' heroes everywhere: they forgive too easily, and end up paying the price. ALWAYS (at some point anyways)

[Eratas123]

Not always. Touma's pretty damn nice (Very nice, actually), but he's shown to be very competent and pro-active.

[chad001]

Not always. Touma's pretty damn nice (Very nice, actually), but he's shown to be very competent and pro-active.

I didn't say 'incompetent', I meant that being forgiving has its weaknesses, and that sandbagging the blows from the females in their lives has VERY LARGE weaknesses. Take Bardway's betrayal of Touma for instance...

[Eratas123]

Did he ever really trust her? THe fact that she says "Leader of an evil orgnaization" doesn't strike as a person I'd trust my wallet with, let alone genuinely trust. It seemed more like "THe enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation.

[chad001]

Did he ever really trust her? THe fact that she says "Leader of an evil orgnaization" doesn't strike as a person I'd trust my wallet with, let alone genuinely trust. It seemed more like "THe enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation.

He didn't have to trust her, just forgive/look past her generally displeasing personality long enough to place her in a position where she could backstab him. And he did seem kinda bummed out about it at the end of NT 3 and NT 4...

[Eratas123]

He's bummed out when the bad guys end up getting hurt or betraying him, like always. He's the messiah archetype, so he tries to save everyone.

[chad001]

He's bummed out when the bad guys end up getting hurt or betraying him, like always. He's the messiah archetype, so he tries to save everyone.

And that's fine. That's what's awesome about Touma, he can do that, and IT WORKS! All I'm saying is that he has placed a lot of the pain on himself because of it. I'm STILL wondering how he survived that fall in the Arctic...

[Eratas123]

Imagine breaker keeps him alive so he'll have even more misfortune waiting for him down the road. Death's the "easy way out", or so people say.

Anyway, we're getting off topic, so we should go back to IS.

[chad001]

Imagine breaker keeps him alive so he'll have even more misfortune waiting for him down the road. Death's the "easy way out", or so people say.

Anyway, we're getting off topic, so we should go back to IS.

Good, then on that topic, I'd like ot mention that since Ichika DOESN'T have Imagine Breaker, he probably won't survive what the girls keep throwing at him.

[Eratas123]

No, but he has Byaku-shiki. All IS have a last stand mode where they're placed under a shield and can't be hurt. Forgot what it was called.

[sky black swordman]

No, but he has Byaku-shiki. All IS have a last stand mode where they're placed under a shield and can't be hurt. Forgot what it was called.

Do you mean the [Absolute Barrier] or [Reiraku Byakuya]?

[chad001]

No, but he has Byaku-shiki. All IS have a last stand mode where they're placed under a shield and can't be hurt. Forgot what it was called.

Huh? What's that? I don't remember that... Point me to volume?

Also, he has been in situations where he wasn't able to pull out Byakushiki while the girls were trying to murder him, Charl's big reveal/Laura's kiss beign a strong example. I think he actually came close to death a few times there.

[Eratas123]

Absolute defense is the name. I think it works no matter if the ISD is activvated or not, since he still used it after he got owned by the Gospel.

[chad001]

Absolute defense is the name. I think it works no matter if the ISD is activvated or not, since he still used it after he got owned by the Gospel.

Absolute Defense/Barrier? You mean the shield? The one that runs out once you have 0 energy? Wouldn't he still die then when his energy reaches 0? And once again, would he still be able to activate Byakushiki in time?

[sky black swordman]

Absolute defense is the name. I think it works no matter if the ISD is activvated or not, since he still used it after he got owned by the Gospel.

NO Ichika got the [Absolute Barrier] of his IS shattered, and he got burned hard as he was now covered with bandages all over.
It can be destroyed and [Reiraku Byakuya] can only nullify energy based weapon.
Once the power runs the [Absolute Barrier] stops working.

[Eratas123]

Oh right, sorry. It's not unbreakable, but the shield is a last stand kind of thing.

Fine, here's another excuse: He's such a blockhead that punches don't even hurt him.

[chad001]

Oh right, sorry. It's not unbreakable, but the shield is a last stand kind of thing.

Fine, here's another excuse: He's such a blockhead that punches don't even hurt him.

I guess... but they used a REAL katana, a laser sniper, an impact cannon, and A FREAKIN' BATTERING RAM on his unprotected body... and I'm pretty sure Laura deploys her RAILGUN in some alter volumes...

[sky black swordman]

Oh right, sorry. It's not unbreakable, but the shield is a last stand kind of thing.

Fine, here's another excuse: He's such a blockhead that punches don't even hurt him.

Have you Episode 8 or 9 the houki beat(When the whole yeah I will go out with you. To shop that is.) down that happend in LN too you know.

[chad001]

Have you Episode 9 the houki beat down that happend in LN too you know.

Wow, you actually memorized individual beatdowns? I just remind myself that they go at him with, highly expensive, military-grade lethal force and the intent to kill...

[sky black swordman]

Wow, you actually memorized individual beatdowns? I just remind myself that they go at him with, highly expensive, military-grade lethal force and the intent to kill...

Yes I do.:heh:
there is also the Rin slap, Laura slap, and the Charl KO Kick too.
And the Tatenashi sparring match where he got owned.
Oh I forgot the Kanzashi slap.
Give time and I will remember all.

[chad001]

Yes I do.:heh:
there is also the Rin slap, Laura slap, and the Charl KO Kick too.
And the Tatenashi sparring match where he got owned.
Oh I forgot the Kanzashi slap.
Give time and I will remember all.

To be fair, Tatenashi's was a sparring match. Less of a beating and more of training/proving themselves.

[sky black swordman]

To be fair, Tatenashi's was a sparring match. Less of a beating and more of training/proving themselves.

Maybe so my friend but in the end he got KO and ended up in the infirmary .:heh:
If need medical attention or end up there then it was a beat down.

[chad001]

Maybe so my friend but in the end he got KO and ended up in the infirmary .:heh:

Russian Fitness Therapy?

[sky black swordman]

Russian Fitness Therapy?

If so then I never want to go there.:heh:

[chad001]

If so then I never want to go there.:heh:

That's the funny thing: she's not Russian as far as I can see. I mean, look at her name, then look at her sister being a Candidate for Japan... how the hell does this system work?!?!?!?

[sky black swordman]

That's the funny thing: she's not Russian as far as I can see. I mean, look at her name, then look at her sister being a Candidate for Japan... how the hell does this system work?!?!?!?

I think its like this they(other countries) observe and evaluate the students at the IS school looking for the most skill and most talented and as the students grades to pick their representative .
And because the students from the moment they enrolled in the school that they cut all ties with nationality.

[Eratas123]

She's possibly half Russian. It's mentioned her name's written in a separate way for foreigners. Her skin's also on the noticably pale side, kinda like Cecilia's and Charlotte's.

Anyway, all harem protags take a beatdown. And he dodges all the lethal attacks.

[chad001]

I think its like this they(other countries) observe and evaluate the students at the IS school looking for the most skill and most talented and as the students grades to pick their representative .

So what do they need Representative Candidates (exclusive to each country) for? I mean, if you're going to pick someone else's candidate anyways...

[sky black swordman]

She's possibly half Russian. It's mentioned her name's written in a separate way for foreigners. Her skin's also on the noticably pale side, kinda like Cecilia's and Charlotte's.

Anyway, all harem protags take a beatdown. And he dodges all the lethal attacks.

Hmm Maybe I will check that out.

And yes thats true . All harem lead male are "protags take a beatdown" some more then others.

[chad001]

She's possibly half Russian. It's mentioned her name's written in a separate way for foreigners. Her skin's also on the noticably pale side, kinda like Cecilia's and Charlotte's.


Meh, could be, haven't read 6(?) in a while...

Anyway, all harem protags take a beatdown. And he dodges all the lethal attacks.

But what if he doesn't dodge any one of those strikes? wouldn't that be an interesting little plot twist? It's like how no one expected Touma to die, but it happened twice and both time were INTENSE AS HELL. Or how no one guessed that Aincrad would last one volume long on their first read, so when they find out, MIND BLOWN. Breaking expectations with unexpected practicality is starting to become a trend...

ME GUSTA (God, I must be tired...)

[Eratas123]

Cadet's have the right to choose their nationalities. How could you forget? They mentioned it a grand total of.......once, in the middle of even more exposition.

@ Chad001 - Sounds like a Fanfic. Some made plans for that, and it ends with the girls going insane and murdering everyone ala school days.

[sky black swordman]

@ Eratas123 look on IS Wiki acording to it her (Tatenashi Sarashiki) her Nationality: Japanese.
So she is full Japanese I guess.

[kuroishinigami]

That's the funny thing: she's not Russian as far as I can see. I mean, look at her name, then look at her sister being a Candidate for Japan... how the hell does this system work?!?!?!?

Think of it like soccer system. You want the person representing your country to be a locale, but sometimes, some people are just too talented to not entice them to represent your country. Tatenashi ane is one such person piloting skill wise.

[sky black swordman]

^ Is it like the soccer system or is it more like the olympic system?
But them again I have heard of players going to other countries to play for their teams.

[Eratas123]

I really wouldn't trust the wiki fully. Besides that, her features really don't mark her for a Japanese. Ichika, Houki, and Rin, who are of Asian descent, show slightly tan skin. Tatenashi and Kanzashi have a skin and hair tone more akin to Charlotte and Cecilia.

Either way, maybe it's just author appeal.

[chad001]

I really wouldn't trust the wiki fully. Besides that, her features really don't mark her for a Japanese. Ichika, Houki, and Rin, who are of Asian descent, show slightly tan skin. Tatenashi and Kanzashi have a skin and hair tone more akin to Charlotte and Cecilia.

Either way, maybe it's just author appeal.

Trudat. Either way, it achieves the goal of making Ichika's harem even more politically diverse, and expanding the scale of consequences, should he ever make a choice, EVEN MORE disastrous...

[Eratas123]

You honestly think he's gonna pic? No, I think the story's gonna end with him going to college and everyone still chasing after him like a moron.

[kuroishinigami]

Tatenashi sisters are 100% Japanese. What do you mean by olympic system? I'm not too familiar with that, but it's definitely close enough with soccer system, with the only difference being you don't have to stay for a certain period of time in the country before representing it.

[Eratas123]

Well, it was/is a popular fanon idea that the Sarashiki's are half-russian. Many people did have a good reason for thinking that.

[sky black swordman]

Tatenashi sisters are 100% Japanese. What do you mean by olympic system? I'm not too familiar with that, but it's definitely close enough with soccer system, with the only difference being you don't have to stay for a certain period of time in the country before representing it.

I knew it. :heh:
Sorry about that but after think about and then finally going back check my source its not like that olympic system.

[Yye1]

There's a theory that Touma knows what going on, but he's suppressing it because the "weakest" member of said harem is a vampire killer. Other main contenders include the walking lighting storm, the person who can fight against out of world creatures, a member of a group of secret agents, and even beer guzzling loli teacher who controls his grades.

Make a choice, and you'll end up dead anyway. Same deal with Ichika: "Uh...it feels like no matter what I say, It's not gonna turn out good for me."

whose the person that fights against other world creatures? index?
Too many members in Touma's harem, I have lost track.

Back to IS, is there definite news on vol 8?

[Eratas123]

Can't post it since it might be a spoiler, so I'll just say thisL: She has big boobs.

Anyway, news is it'son hiatus but ongoing.

[chad001]

Can't post it since it might be a spoiler, so I'll just say thisL: She has big boobs.

Anyway, news is it'son hiatus but ongoing.

What's on Hiatus?

[Eratas123]

The Novel. Didn't you hear about the whole "getting laid off" debacle?

[chad001]

The Novel. Didn't you hear about the whole "getting laid off" debacle?

Oh, you meant IS? Yeah, I heard about that. Apparently he's more less done Volume 8, but has not set release date. Isn't he switching to Kodansha?

[Eratas123]

Yeah, that's what was said. He's busy with After school battlefield.

[Wilfriback]

@Yyi: He means the saint Kanzaki Kaori.

[genryu_black]

can someone tell me the synopsis of that new ln 'after school battlefield'? with picture if you can.

[Yye1]

@Yyi: He means the saint Kanzaki Kaori.

Oh, i thought she was the member of the secret group, guess thats itsuwa then

[Chaos2Frozen]

can someone tell me the synopsis of that new ln 'after school battlefield'? with picture if you can.

There's a synopsis posted 5 pages ago...
(http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=4257086#post4257086)

Oh, i thought she was the member of the secret group, guess thats itsuwa then

That being said though, Touma has many female acquaintances, but really only a very few of them are actively pursuing him as oppose to say Kinji and Ichika, where probably 60% of their story is harem stuff.

Plus it doesn't hurt that there is a strong cast of other male characters trying to start their own harems, some with more success than others.

[chad001]

There's a synopsis posted 5 pages ago...
(http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=4257086#post4257086)



That being said though, Touma has many female acquaintances, but really only a very few of them are actively pursuing him as oppose to say Kinji and Ichika, where probably 60% of their story is harem stuff.

Different emphases in each series, really. Index doens't sell (just) for the harem-antics, it sells because Touma's a badass. Aria and IS however, do use the harem as as a selling point, with much less emphasis on combat, and as such, the MC's are a lot less badass in combat, funnier, but less badass.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Different emphases in each series, really. Index doens't sell (just) for the harem-antics, it sells because Touma's a badass. Aria and IS however, do use the harem as as a selling point, with much less emphasis on combat, and as such, the MC's are a lot less badass in combat, funnier, but less badass.

I guess that's why I'm hesitant about most MF Bunko titles, they emphasize way too much on the harem aspect.

[chad001]

I guess that's why I'm hesitant about most MF Bunko titles, they emphasize way too much on the harem aspect.

See, that's the thing, harem antics can be seriously entertaining IF DONE RIGHT. But so many author's/mangaka/directors throw it in for the sake of putting adding in cliches to the premise, rather than actual interest in the topic. I'm proud to say that I've immersed myself in a variety of media, and the (very) few that do actually emphasize on the harem aspects, with actual interest in the aspect itself, turn out pretty well. If the authors actually focused on the relationships, group dynamics, or even everyday life of the characters in situations like that, rather than just throwing in antics for the sake of comedy or a quick domestic violence joke (I'm looking at you ZnT, Aria, IS, Index... sigh... yeah pretty much all of them really...) there could actually be some real potential there. But sadly, most people are scared of the 'new' and even amongst those whoa aren't, there's very few who can even imagine sucha concept, let alone develop it...

[chad001]

*Sigh* it's sad, but true that 9/10 times we can predict the ending just by looking at the premise, and the character's hair colour...

[sky black swordman]

^ Hmm some food for thought and you double posted .:heh:
If they do author's/mangaka/directors something new and fail what then?

[chad001]

Then it doesn't become popular in Japan and we never hear about it in the Western world. If it's not popular enough, translators don't go for them, scanners don't post them, and sellers don't list them. I'm not saying that no one's tried it yet, I'm saying that no one's who's talented/lucky/big enough has tried it, so it hasn't really sprouted. The result? We don't have access to them.

[asaqe]

:eyebrow: ^ Hmm sounds interesting .

It's an extreme ecchi LN I can assure you. Looked up the artist, makes Okiura look tame by Comparison

[Chaos2Frozen]

It's an extreme ecchi LN I can assure you. Looked up the artist, makes Okiura look tame by Comparison

Wouldn't matter; the author is the one that decides how ecchi a series would be, the illustrator just comply with the request.

[chad001]

Wouldn't matter; the author is the one that decides how ecchi a series would be, the illustrator just comply with the request.

Meh, different illustrators work better with different genres, just like authors. My guess is that authors seek out different illustrators (if they can) depending on the content of their stories. I mean you wouldn't have CLAMP (I know they're mangaka, but I don't know many illustrator names... so I'm putting forth the hypothetical situation where CLAMP's distinctive style is used for pure-illustration) working Hagure Yuusha now would you?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Meh, different illustrators work better with different genres, just like authors. My guess is that authors seek out different illustrators (if they can) depending on the content of their stories. I mean you wouldn't have CLAMP (I know they're mangaka, but I don't know many illustrator names... so I'm putting forth the hypothetical situation where CLAMP's distinctive style is used for pure-illustration) working Hagure Yuusha now would you?

Actually, it's not the author that chooses their illustrator it's the Editor/Publisher that pairs them. Heck, it's not uncommon for Author and Illustrator to never meet in person.

If CLAMP wants to work on a Light Novel, it doesn't matter what the genre is because they have a brand name already that would attract interest- The Editor/Publisher main concern would never be 'Does this fit the Image?'...

[n0m@n]

The cover for the "After school Battlefield" is out.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%94%BE%E8%AA%B2%E5%BE%8C%E3%83%90%E3%83%88%E3%8 3%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%891-%E8%AC%9B%E8%AB%87%E7%A4%BE%E3%83%A9%E3%83%8E%E3%8 3%99%E6%96%87%E5%BA%AB-%E5%BC%93%E5%BC%A6-%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA%E3%83%AB/dp/4063752526/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343361892&sr=8-1

[asaqe]

Actually, it's not the author that chooses their illustrator it's the Editor/Publisher that pairs them. Heck, it's not uncommon for Author and Illustrator to never meet in person.

If CLAMP wants to work on a Light Novel, it doesn't matter what the genre is because they have a brand name already that would attract interest- The Editor/Publisher main concern would never be 'Does this fit the Image?'...

Big boobs, girls on cover...why I won't be surprised when several chapters in we get nudes of one of the girls?

There is a certain type of influence, Editors won't say give the illustrator of Gundam Unicorn a LN done by someone working for MF Bunko for example. He won't be able to convey the extremely fanservice driven scenes you get from MF Bunko.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Big boobs, girls on cover...why I won't be surprised when several chapters in we get nudes of one of the girls?

I'm more surprised you think we would need to wait several chapters :p


There is a certain type of influence, Editors won't say give the illustrator of Gundam Unicorn a LN done by someone working for MF Bunko for example. He won't be able to convey the extremely fanservice driven scenes you get from MF Bunko.

Well obviously they wouldn't pick such an unattractive and ancient art style, but for everything there's not real limitation save for what the author wants. Plus the illustrators themselves have to be flexible enough to draw things outside of their comfort zone.

14 volumes down the road Kiyotaka Haimura had to find a way to draw irregular shaped mecha for Kazuma Kamachi despite mecha's aren't his specialty.

[Hasumi]

The cover for the "After school Battlefield" is out.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%94%BE%E8%AA%B2%E5%BE%8C%E3%83%90%E3%83%88%E3%8 3%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%891-%E8%AC%9B%E8%AB%87%E7%A4%BE%E3%83%A9%E3%83%8E%E3%8 3%99%E6%96%87%E5%BA%AB-%E5%BC%93%E5%BC%A6-%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA%E3%83%AB/dp/4063752526/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343361892&sr=8-1

I think this needs its own thread somewhere. :heh::uhoh:

[wavehawk]

Is Baka-Tsuki's translation site down? I was going to double-check something in the LN but I can't get to the site.

[Eratas123]

What volume do you need? I have 2, 4, and 5 saved on my phone.

[wavehawk]

I really should have copied all of them, to be honest.

[sky black swordman]

Is Baka-Tsuki's translation site down? I was going to double-check something in the LN but I can't get to the site.

Its back up now.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Baka-Tsuki is down every Sunday.

Probably because of the thousands of people comparing SAO notes =_=

[wavehawk]

It still amazes me that SAO (by the author of Accel World, no doubt!) almost didn't happen just because he went over the page restriction for LN submissions and he decided to make it an online-only novel.

[Flere821]

Baka-Tsuki is down every Sunday.

Probably because of the thousands of people comparing SAO notes =_=
You make it sound like we don't have this problem when Index II was airing :heh:

[Chaos2Frozen]

You make it sound like we don't have this problem when Index II was airing :heh:

If we did, I never noticed :p

But we pretty much destroy their server whenever a new volume is out :D

[DarkJak2050]

Well, now there's one (or two) (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-07-30/2-infinite-stratos-manga-to-end-this-summer) manga series that'll end this summer.

[ZeroXSEED]

Hmm, so it stopped after gospel eh? Hardly surprising.

[M1sFyr3]

They are stopping it after 4 volumes, it did have a decent fan base on the English manga sites, but I can't say I'm unhappy it ended. I personally liked the novels and the anime a lot better, something about the manga art I didn't really enjoy. Well it may not have been bad, mostly personal interest. Anyways, means the rumored art on some sites of a possible "season 2" weren't for the manga. If it's authentic, my hopes for a season 2 anime are raised. :D I agree with ZeroXSEED that it isn't surprising, considering Media Factory gave the Infinite Stratos rights back to the maker. Anyhow, I think I saw somewhere that Media Factory kept the anime rights. Sorry, if I repeated something, just skimmed this thread and wanted to join in the discussion.

[Sumeragi]

You know, why do I have the feeling that IS is going to be very, very dark once Volume 8 comes out?

[Hasumi]

^ Dark or not, I'd just be glad for it to...exist. :heh:

[Chaos2Frozen]

You know, why do I have the feeling that IS is going to be very, very dark once Volume 8 comes out?


The guy is writing yet another highschool fantasy story- I doubt this whole experience has changed his mindset one bit.

[Sumeragi]

At the same time, I want it to be dark! As in....

Yandere twincest with a bit of homicidal maniacal obsession against the nee-san who took her love away from her.
Ichika's unrequited love was for Madoka, and thus the realization will cause a lot of mental instability once he remembers his feelings.

[n0m@n]

I actually want some death of a major character. Maybe like Chifuyu. Having her as an allies seems like a very strong support for the cast since she is the strongest. But by having her killed will make the casts seem like they are in a very tight position.

[Chaos2Frozen]

You guys are betting on the wrong Author :heh: I know that people's style can change, but that's too drastic- It would take several volumes to make that sort shift, not just story-wise but the mindset of the writer as well.

[M1sFyr3]

I would be surprised if anyone important died,
considering that everyone survived the attack of the Golem IIIs, like Tatenashi. But since Tabane seems to be getting more violent in her testing, maybe she might kill someone by accident. I still doubt it xD

[sky black swordman]

I actually want some death of a major character. Maybe like Chifuyu. Having her as an allies seems like a very strong support for the cast since she is the strongest. But by having her killed will make the casts seem like they are in a very tight position.

I think If she(Chifuyu) died then the series may go dark a bit. Even more if Tabane had a hand in it or was responsible.
For one Houki would never forgive her sister and would truly hate her for not killing someone close to her and taking the life of the only relative of the boy she loves ever knew or had.
And there is Ichika .I dont want to about his state of mind.
Houki and Ichika's relationship would be strained.
One things for sure they would never be the same between the 2.

[chad001]

You know, why do I have the feeling that IS is going to be very, very dark once Volume 8 comes out?

That's just your desires seeping through...

[ZeroXSEED]

Well, I'm hoping not so much about grimdark, but I wished more serious and 'worthy' feel rather than a series of random moment with sparse actual romance.

[wavehawk]

You know, why do I have the feeling that IS is going to be very, very dark once Volume 8 comes out?

(quietly hides the REAL Yumizuru's body as he uses a PAP crossline to spook his twitter feed, all the while putting the finishing touches of 'Vol.8')

[a3jay14]

How many volumes does the author will do? Is it only going to be 10 volumes.

[sky black swordman]

^ I think the IS series author can make it go as long as he wants. Given the the volumes of the series sales good. There are to questions that need to be answered before thsi series ends and I dont think that ten volumes will be enoght to answer them all.

[ZeroXSEED]

^ No, assuming he CAN

We knew he's almost overdoing himself, in spite of some ass calling him being lazy.

[sky black swordman]

^ Who called him that?

[wavehawk]

^ Who called him that?

- someone who can't write to save his life, obviously...

[ZeroXSEED]

^ What Wave-ossan means some ungrateful bastard that constantly bitching about not having more stuff to read. And not in positive means either, we means total author bashing.

[sky black swordman]

^Woah thats messed up.:(

[sapper]

when is IS volume 8 expected?

[sky black swordman]

when is IS volume 8 expected?

Soory but there is nothing new on this let.:(

[dmaxzero]

I started to read volume 1... and I kind of hated Ichika, XD.

Does he improve somehow? Besides the IS piloting realm I mean. I would like some hope to steel myself and keep reading it.

[Chandalen]

I started to read volume 1... and I kind of hated Ichika, XD.

Does he improve somehow? Besides the IS piloting realm I mean. I would like some hope to steel myself and keep reading it.

No.

10 characters

[ZeroXSEED]

He mans up and the girls kick him down again just to because the author think it's funny.

[dmaxzero]

aggg... damn it.

[wavehawk]

He had Chifuyu as an older sister and sole parent. You really shouldn't be surprised...

[n0m@n]

Okay Im very sorry but I have a bad news....

Izuru's new LN "After school Battlefield" became a Chaos!!
It was released yesterday and if you check Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4063752526/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-6&pf_rd_r=0QHN5WEKPQ1TWGJM8RRE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463376816&pf_rd_i=489986) 13 people voted out of 5 stars and it received 1.2 stars in average!

Now that is very poor even if you compare to LN written by a complete amateur!
And it is only 224 pages which is very short for a LN.

And also there was a huge bashing of this LN and at Izuru. And Izuru became sulked in his twitter. Here is the thing he wrote.


Hmmmmmm. It really pains me that my new work is being bashed already. I have a weak heart so dont bully me



Started playing MHF again. Have been playing Dogma for a long time. Thats why I cant stop playing Capcom's game!


Izuru is totally out of control. He spends most of his time playing games rather than thinking of good ideas for his LN. He isnt taking this seriously.

And here is another twitter messages he wrote more than a year ago or before writing IS.


Ah~. I once handed out a draft of a light novel based on survival game. Apparently the publisher found it not only boring but also it has been made fun of by a group of editors leaded by a woman editor. I had many thing going in my mind when they send me a mail about "their response". So I thought I will definitely release that work one day! By making it more entertaining and from a different publisher that is.



Man, that woman editor knows nothings. And she wrote all these comments which you normally wont write. If the work turns out to be success because of learning from that comments then it will be okay but this is just bullying. So is she saying the same thing to the other authors? She definitely wanted to bully me because I have no experience.



So right now the Japan's blog is just bashing this fool. He spends most time playing games. He used the work which was heavily critised by the editor from another publisher in the past thinking that his work is awesome but it ended as crap. The woman editor he's talking crap about wasnt bullying him but was telling the truth.

Hate to say it, but I think Izuru just ended his life as a author. Obviously there will be no continuation of this new LN, but perhaps it might end the IS franchise permanently.

[wavehawk]

Oh, that's just terrific. -_-

Quite possible that Izuru's gone and lost his sanity already...

[Eratas123]

Can't somebody just buy the rights to IS and hand it over to another author? If Izuru's supposedly so lazy, then there shouldn't be much of a problem.

[wavehawk]

Can't somebody just buy the rights to IS and hand it over to another author?- Normally that would be the case with most franchises (Which is why some ideas are ruined by companies trying to milk the franchise for all they're worth), but somehow...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Can't somebody just buy the rights to IS and hand it over to another author? If Izuru's supposedly so lazy, then there shouldn't be much of a problem.


If you're going to give it to a more talented writer, you might as well have that writer come up with his own stuff.

Nobody likes to take over someone else's mess.


Okay Im very sorry but I have a bad news....

Izuru's new LN "After school Battlefield" became a Chaos!!
It was released yesterday and if you check Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4063752526/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-6&pf_rd_r=0QHN5WEKPQ1TWGJM8RRE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463376816&pf_rd_i=489986) 13 people voted out of 5 stars and it received 1.2 stars in average!

Not that I'm defending the guy, but a sample pool of 13 people is hardly what I would call reliable.



Hate to say it, but I think Izuru just ended his life as a author. Obviously there will be no continuation of this new LN, but perhaps it might end the IS franchise permanently.

As I've said before, people don't change that easily and with a reputation that is as radioactive as his...

...God and Aleister knows what Kodansha were thinking.

[sky black swordman]

^ I agree everything you say.

Oh man my hope's that IS would return have been destroyed.:(

[ZeroXSEED]

Reality is stranger than fiction....

[Richocet]

Seriously WTH went wrong with him...to let it all get to his head...

[n0m@n]

He seriously should just really concentrate on IS now. I also checked his other old posts and this guy doesnt seem professional because he bashes other people too much.....

He seems to hate all the editors who tries to point out the bad parts and thinks he is getting bullied. But when he released the work which was highly criticized, it received so much booing like his former editors said.

Also, yeah ratings was on amazon which was done by 13 people, but if you check the jap sites there are like 1000 comments which is bashing his work in just a day of release.....
Some people says that it is a super crap version of AW.


Anyway since so much figures of IS has been released and being brought by people, I really hope he can at least continue to do IS till the end. No more new series from this guy...... I hope he ONLY concentrates on IS.

[sky black swordman]

^ Agreed. And also "professional " , how many works has this guy done?
Also how old is this guy?
I mean he sound like a kid.

[Chaos2Frozen]

To be fair, I can totally understand the depressing feeling of having an idea you thought up get rejected by so many people. Granted, I didn't have a stake in my livelihood writing fanfics but the feeling is still there.

That's about the only thing I can empathize with him.

For everything else- Bash away!

[genryu_black]

At this rate, Izuru can only focus on IS so he can clear his reputation or else he will lose the trust to publish another Light Novel.

I think the vote base on only 13 people is not truly reliable. his new light novel might get a low rating for the reader in japan but for the reader outside japan it may get a better comment.

[Sumeragi]

Who are the main customers of LNs?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Who are the main customers of LNs?

The Japanese... And maybe the Taiwanese if my trip to Taipei two years ago was any indication.

At this rate, Izuru can only focus on IS so he can clear his reputation or else he will lose the trust to publish another Light Novel.

I don't know, it certainly looks like he's all drained up on ideas.


His new light novel might get a low rating for the reader in japan but for the reader outside japan it may get a better comment.

When has that ever happened? Not that it would matter though because if it's that bad it would never make it out of the country.

Heh, maybe KyoAni would animate it to save it's sales :D

[asaqe]

Looking at some of the scans, it looks like something like Hidan No Aria except replace a flat chest Tsundere with an generic busty girl. No wonder people dislike this series. Completely generic and unforgetable LN from a guy who has tarnished his reputation with the LN crowd.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Looking at some of the scans, it looks like something like Hidan No Aria except replace a flat chest Tsundere with an generic busty girl. No wonder people dislike this series. Completely generic and unforgetable LN from a guy who has tarnished his reputation with the LN crowd.

...So have you read it :confused: ?

[sky black swordman]

Looking at some of the scans, it looks like something like Hidan No Aria except replace a flat chest Tsundere with an generic busty girl. No wonder people dislike this series. Completely generic and unforgetable LN from a guy who has tarnished his reputation with the LN crowd.

Where can I find them?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Where can I find them?

Pretty much any Japanese Anime blog, just Google the Japanese name of the title and you'll find a few of them.

But they're all illustrations of girls, hardly what I would use to judge the story itself... That's why I'm hoping someone here is brave enough to have actually read it so we can freely bash it :p

[blitz1/2]

Now, Izuru, since you have time for games, GIVE ME MY MOMOIRO GUARDIAN 2!

[asaqe]

Pretty much any Japanese Anime blog, just Google the Japanese name of the title and you'll find a few of them.

But they're all illustrations of girls, hardly what I would use to judge the story itself... That's why I'm hoping someone here is brave enough to have actually read it so we can freely bash it :p

From what I see, during a crappy day of school. He was forced to join the club with Homare, the male lead is your typical Keitaro tier wuss.

This is a MiliOta (military Otaku) catering LN. Guns and boobs and a duo of busty females.

[Chaos2Frozen]

From what I see, during a crappy day of school. He was forced to join the club with Homare, the male lead is your typical Keitaro tier wuss.

This is a MiliOta (military Otaku) catering LN. Guns and boobs and a duo of busty females.

Hmmm, all that has been done before with frustratingly common level of success... I'm guessing the problem comes from execution and writing style as people had mentioned?

[neowind]

I understand some fan raging..about IS novel.. and so on.. But hey sometimes creator want to try new things.. yeah the whole he can go back to IS. over all.

people need to understand sometime writers get tired or want to take break from a big project. they want to branch off tap new things

just let him be.. he will look for strength again. some one post before how on his blog he talk about the editors and so on comments , that he just doesn't see that he sucks.. that is really stupid to say..oh he sucks he just doesnt see it from the editor comments. people get hurt when someone criticize there work..ok =p

think about JK she had dark times too

well sorry to say but JK for potter was the same too. before harry potter came out, When she toke the story around .a lot of company's told her it suck.. the comment on everything. wanted to change his character. she talk about how some editors said some real mean stuff to her.


she feel bully too.. at times gave up..but


wasn't tell she found this one place which saw something no one else saw and harry potter made history =D

forgive my typing..but just hang in there alright. he wrote this novel for a long time and even had the ideas before . sometime big projects like these take time, have there ups and down.. it toke jk years...to write everything before she even touch a company about her story.. before that she had dark times..gave up writing for a bit..and found strength to go back at it

yes when she wrote harry she did all in one big thing before she even touch companys. but yeah just go easy on him alright =D this one toke off..so sometime..it can get overwhelming and so on

[ZeroXSEED]

K-TARO LEVEL WUSS?

That's going to be such....

[Chaos2Frozen]

K-TARO LEVEL WUSS?

That's going to be such....

You know, up until Guilty Crown and Accel World, I didn't know they still made those in Japan...

[ZeroXSEED]

You know, up until Guilty Crown and Accel World, I didn't know they still made those in Japan...

Hell, I don't even known writer STILL think it's popular, with the surge of badass harem hero, you'd think they'll realize....

[larethian]

I understand some fan raging..about IS novel.. and so on.. But hey sometimes creator want to try new things.. yeah the whole he can go back to IS. over all.

people need to understand sometime writers get tired or want to take break from a big project. they want to branch off tap new things

just let him be.. he will look for strength again. some one post before how on his blog he talk about the editors and so on comments , that he just doesn't see that he sucks.. that is really stupid to say..oh he sucks he just doesnt see it from the editor comments. people get hurt when someone criticize there work..ok =p

think about JK she had dark times too

well sorry to say but JK for potter was the same too. before harry potter came out, When she toke the story around .a lot of company's told her it suck.. the comment on everything. wanted to change his character. she talk about how some editors said some real mean stuff to her.


she feel bully too.. at times gave up..but


wasn't tell she found this one place which saw something no one else saw and harry potter made history =D

forgive my typing..but just hang in there alright. he wrote this novel for a long time and even had the ideas before . sometime big projects like these take time, have there ups and down.. it toke jk years...to write everything before she even touch a company about her story.. before that she had dark times..gave up writing for a bit..and found strength to go back at it

yes when she wrote harry she did all in one big thing before she even touch companys. but yeah just go easy on him alright =D this one toke off..so sometime..it can get overwhelming and so on
Except that it's one thing to believe in the work you created (Rowling) and another thing to whine about everybody inrcluding your fans who make a few criticisms, in an extremely unprofessional manner through social media. Note the word 'fans'. Meaning they already enjoyed what he has written in the first few volumes of IS. Another problem is, he's not just taking a break but being lazy and easily distracted. Which was one of the believed causes, whether direct or indirect, of his previous fiasco with MF. Just look at his previous tweets. It's one thing for publishers to have something against the author, and another thing for even the readers to think that he should 'dogeza' (prostrate/kneel and apologize) and 'hansei' (reflect on his behavior), but up to date, he still believe he has not done anything wrong. Sure, I should take the publicly available info with a pinch of salt since I'm not an insider. But I can never believe that he actually has zero fault in everything, which appears to be what he's believing and asserting. That kind of attitude just blows all kind of credibility in his defenses. If he were to say that he's partly responsible for some stuff etc., and denying the rest and suffering injustice, it might have been still possible for people to swallow it.

Disclaimer: That's my two cents. Don't take what I say as the gospel truth.

[a3jay14]

Wrong post, my bad

[Chaos2Frozen]

I understand some fan raging..about IS novel.. and so on.. But hey sometimes creator want to try new things.. yeah the whole he can go back to IS. over all.

people need to understand sometime writers get tired or want to take break from a big project. they want to branch off tap new things


People aren't complaining that he shouldn't do any new stories, God and Aleister knows how many authors have more than one project at work.

People are saying that his new work just outright sucks.

That, couple with the lack of professionalism in twitters, pretty much destroyed his already shaky reputation.

That's why they're saying at the very least he should focus on saving IS. But personally, I don't think he's capable of doing so.

[Yye1]

aleister from index? btw, now index is the perfect example of a good light novel series and as far as I know, the author is not a big whiner

[Chaos2Frozen]

aleister from index? btw, now index is the perfect example of a good light novel series and as far as I know, the author is not a big whiner

That's because Kamachi writes EVERYTHING and does it on time- What does he have to complain about :heh: ?

If anything I recall a twitter by his editor complaining that he needs to rest more and stop working so much :heh:

[blitz1/2]

I wish we have someone here that can write Japanese to him.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Might not need to- The Japanese occasionally translate our forum posts after all...

[sky black swordman]

Except that it's one thing to believe in the work you created (Rowling) and another thing to whine about everybody inrcluding your fans who make a few criticisms, in an extremely unprofessional manner through social media. Note the word 'fans'. Meaning they already enjoyed what he has written in the first few volumes of IS. Another problem is, he's not just taking a break but being lazy and easily distracted. Which was one of the believed causes, whether direct or indirect, of his previous fiasco with MF. Just look at his previous tweets. It's one thing for publishers to have something against the author, and another thing for even the readers to think that he should 'dogeza' (prostrate/kneel and apologize) and 'hansei' (reflect on his behavior), but up to date, he still believe he has not done anything wrong. Sure, I should take the publicly available info with a pinch of salt since I'm not an insider. But I can never believe that he actually has zero fault in everything, which appears to be what he's believing and asserting. That kind of attitude just blows all kind of credibility in his defenses. If he were to say that he's partly responsible for some stuff etc., and denying the rest and suffering injustice, it might have been still possible for people to swallow it.

Disclaimer: That's my two cents. Don't take what I say as the gospel truth.

Maybe so but I am in agreement with many of opinions.

[Yye1]

question, do u think the author might just be on something like speed or weed or heroin?

[Eratas123]

I doubt it. They probably check if their authors/assets are high on drugs since the legal trouble wouldn't be worth the hassle if he got caught. Besides, Izuru is supposedly very sickly, so taking drugs is a bad idea.

[Chaos2Frozen]

question, do u think the author might just be on something like speed or weed or heroin?

Well that was random :twitch: Can't a guy just be naturally unpleasant to work with?

[a3jay14]

Aw.. Don't kill IS yet its too early :P maybe there's another author who's interested in continuing the novel?

[ZeroXSEED]

Well, Izuru owned the rights as of now (hence the manga being stopped) even though he's with Kodansha now. Can't be really sure...

[Chaos2Frozen]

There is still one more realistic alternative- Have the manga-ka continue the series in the manga.

...Though I said 'realistic', I still believe you should just give up hope :p

[angel8]

I read that izuri is writing a new story, but this story is linked to the previous light novel??
And you know if you're writing the project kimi p??
And do you know if there are the same characters?

[Chaos2Frozen]

I read that izuri is writing a new story, but this story is linked to the previous light novel??

No, it's a brand new story.

[Athena]

Actually, I don't really care about the personality of the author. What I look at is his story and whether or not I enjoy it.

There are drunk, cheating men that were excellent country leaders. And there were exemplary vegetarian men who were fanatical asswh*les.

If there is a book that I love, I'll buy it. If I don't like it, then I don't buy it. As simple as that.



That, couple with the lack of professionalism in twitters, pretty much destroyed his already shaky reputation.
Everyone says shit in twitter, actually. :heh:

Anyway, I'll be waiting for IS v.8, and I don't care about his new series.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Everyone says shit in twitter, actually. :heh:


That's why I'm still of the opinion that it's one of the most diabolical creations of the modern era. People just can't shut up anymore about things they don't have to say.




Anyway, I'll be waiting for IS v.8, and I don't care about his new series.

Apparently nobody does; he could barely save one series let alone try to do another one.

It's become quite the punching bag on the internet.

[n0m@n]

This isn't related to IS, but remember the guy who did the illustration for IS? Okiura?

Well, he will be doing the illustration for a new LN which is coming on MF Bunko. It's coming out on 25th September.

http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/bunkoj/book_detail/906

The name is "Gakusen Toshi Asterisk". It can be translated as "City of the Battle-Academy Asterisk".

Since IS became very popular due to the characters(minus Ichika), this new LN might give us hope again. Well, illustration wise that is.

[Chaos2Frozen]

This isn't related to IS, but remember the guy who did the illustration for IS? Okiura?

Well, he will be doing the illustration for a new LN which is coming on MF Bunko. It's coming out on 25th September.

http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/bunkoj/book_detail/906

The name is "Gakusen Toshi Asterisk". It can be translated as "City of the Battle-Academy Asterisk".

Since IS became very popular due to the characters(minus Ichika), this new LN might give us hope again. Well, illustration wise that is.


Who is this Author, 三屋咲ゆう ? A new guy?

Mah~ I've always felt that Okiura was the one that created the pretty looking girls and was the one carrying the heavier load. So no matter what at least it would look good.

On the other hand... a MF Bunko title doesn't really inspire much confidence. On a positive note, At the very least you'll know for sure what you're getting yourself into.

[n0m@n]

Who is this Author, 三屋咲ゆう ? A new guy?

Mah~ I've always felt that Okiura was the one that created the pretty looking girls and was the one carrying the heavier load. So no matter what at least it would look good.

On the other hand... a MF Bunko title doesn't really inspire much confidence. On a positive note, At the very least you'll know for sure what you're getting yourself into.

Yes, he appears to be a new guy. So even if the plot is average, it will turn out good with Okiura's illustration! I want to see the second coming of Charlotte.....
That is what I wish for....