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Imgur killed the quality. Ah well. The updated version can be gotten here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver.psd).
- Removed Takabayashi off the list.
- Merged Layers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 8 into one called 'Background' and locked that layer.
- Renamed folders for easier navigation, and moved some layers around a bit.
Oh hells yeah. Totes rooting for them! Well done :)
Hope that to a positive flag doesn't correspond some negative one.
TinyRedLeaf
2012-02-08, 01:28
Thinking it over, I find it sad, the way the curse is said to have originated. Another plays on something that is possibly unique to Japanese: their deep-seated fear of ostracism. Given a culture where one's identity and self-worth is so intricately linked with one's peer group, it must feel horrible to be deliberately ignored by supposed friends and colleagues, to experience what is, in effect, social death. Judging by the events of Ep5, it's clear that not everyone in the class is comfortable with the idea of ostracising Sakakibara. Some clearly feel that they have no choice but to do a little evil for the sake of the greater good.
It seems particularly cruel, therefore, that Class 3-3 of 1972 did something that ought to have been especially exemplary: the students endeavoured to keep alive the memory of a dear friend, believing that "to forget" Misaki would be as good as condemning that person to a second death.
For that apparent act of kindness, everyone got afflicted with a frightening curse. It just doesn't seem fair, does it? Someone mentioned in the Ep5 thread that Another may possibly fare better in the West than in Japan. On the contrary, I feel there is something very pertinently Japanese about Another that only someone familiar with their group culture would fully appreciate.
Pellissier
2012-02-08, 05:37
To the people who're doing the fatality chart, from now on please just post an updated version after each episode (possibly in a "clean" post, you can put technical informations in a separate place), and the chart will be copied in the sticky Events Summary (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=110228) thread.
For completeness' sake, if you also want to provide polished charts for episodes 1,2,3 I'll make sure to include them.
Ok. So I redid 1,2,3 and again I hope the succession of the "events" are right. :)
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/aryaII/another-deathwatch-ep-01-02.jpg
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/aryaII/another-deathwatch-ep-03.jpg
Ok. So I redid 1,2,3 and again I hope the succession of the "events" are right. :)
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/aryaII/another-deathwatch-ep-01-02.jpg
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/aryaII/another-deathwatch-ep-03.jpg
Nice one. And yep, everything seems to be correct.
Pellissier
2012-02-08, 16:41
Ok. So I redid 1,2,3 and again I hope the succession of the "events" are right. :)
Ok, thread updated and ordered. Ready to go with the new updates from episode 6 onwards! :)
traittrait
2012-02-08, 17:09
Nice one. And yep, everything seems to be correct.
Um-m... What about Fujioka Misaki? She's already dead at the very beginning.
Um-m... What about Fujioka Misaki? She's already dead at the very beginning.
She is, yes. But isn't it only revealed that she's Mei's cousin in episode 3? It could just be that I'm not remembering things correctly, though.
traittrait
2012-02-08, 17:23
She is, yes. But isn't it only revealed that she's Mei's cousin in episode 3? It could just be that I'm not remembering things correctly, though.
Well, yes, only in ep03. Ah, nevermind. I just thought that you marks deathes in chronological order, and not *when* M.C. learns about this deathes.)
Well, yes, only in ep03. Ah, nevermind. I just thought that you marks deathes in chronological order, and not *when* M.C. learns about this deathes.)
It's more *when* we learn about casualties. So even if someone decide to peek to the first ep. scoreboard after watching the first episode he won't be spoiled.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5610/75677.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/75677.jpg/)
The Chibi Mei on the official site if freaking adorable, to the point I almost forgot I even visited it in the first place. I found it a bit suspicious that the maiden name of Kouichi's mother (and therefore the name of Reiko) is still unknown to us, so I wanted to check if it wasn't on the official site by any chance, and no, it wasn't.
At the same time I realized that most of the characters only have either their first or last name listed but rarely both, so this may not be important at all after all. By the way, Mei's mother is as cute as her daughter (you can definitely see the resemblance).
TinyRedLeaf
2012-02-09, 12:22
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5610/75677.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/75677.jpg/)
Gah, Akazawa is hot. Poor Sakakibara-kun, he's hanging out with the wrong girl. Or perhaps he prefers petanko, so no loss. :p
What's with the swimsuits anyway? People are dropping dead and amid this, Class 3-3 decides it's a good idea to head to the beach to relieve their stress!?
EDIT:
At the same time I realized that most of the characters only have either their first or last name listed but rarely both, so this may not be important at all after all.
Oho, you might be on to something here. We'll soon see if the pattern persists. (Take a look at the names of those who've died so far...)
Kusa-San
2012-02-12, 03:48
Since I don't know where to post that :
Chapter 11 (manga) :
Lol, the teacher killed himself in front of everyone because he was not able to bear all these deaths. Everyone is shocked and of course, the girl in charge of the counter-measure said it's because of your hero and Mei :uhoh: (when it's obviously HER, and class 3, fault)
Am I the only one who think the character design is better in the manga than in the anime ? (especially the aunt :3 )
TinyRedLeaf
2012-02-12, 04:27
Am I the only one who think the character design is better in the manga than in the anime ? (especially the aunt :3 )
I have mixed views regarding the different character designs. Akazawa was sexier in the manga, I'd grant you, but I find Misaki and Sakakibara's designs in the anime cuter. (Yes, perhaps they shouldn't be cute, not in a "horror" show, but a little bit of eye candy never hurts.)
Extremesonic101
2012-02-12, 17:09
Not sure were else to mention this but I was browsing things regarding ToyFair and came across this image amongst a bunch of ToyFair images and I was wondering is this a possible hint at Another merchendise? or just a poster advertising the anime?
http://blog-imgs-43.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/1329014585887.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/377/anotherdeathwatcharyave.png
Download the .psd file here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver.psd)
Technically speaking, the teacher will only kill himself in episode 07, right? And crap, that teacher isn't on our scoreboard. I guess I could add a little bar to the very bottom for miscellaneous deaths such as this?
Funnily the thing that creeps me the most about this anime is the little parrot bird. :uhoh:
Technically speaking, the teacher will only kill himself in episode 07, right? And crap, that teacher isn't on our scoreboard. I guess I could add a little bar to the very bottom for miscellaneous deaths such as this?
No prob on that, as we want to put in valuable brief information as much as possible. :) And for the student roster I think we should add the cause of death for a particular student (in small letters).
No prob on that, as we want to put in valuable brief information as much as possible. :) And for the student roster I think we should add the cause of death for a particular student (in small letters).
Okay, I'll work on that. As for the student roster, let's take Yukari for example, which of the following would be better: 'impalement', or 'death by impalement'? The former won't make much sense, but the latter would make the roster appear to be covered in text. Do you think we should the same for their relatives?
Funnily the thing that creeps me the most about this anime is the little parrot bird. :uhoh:
I know what you mean. I hate that damn birdbrain. >_>
Okay, I'll work on that. As for the student roster, let's take Yukari for example, which of the following would be better: 'impalement', or 'death by impalement'? The former won't make much sense, but the latter would make the roster appear to be covered in text. Do you think we should the same for their relatives?
We have to, as the fatalities happen even outside the class. Maybe we try putting the text on sideways, but then I'll try to figure out how to make it look detailed and clean at the same time.
We have to, as the fatalities happen even outside the class. Maybe we try putting the text on sideways, but then I'll try to figure out how to make it look detailed and clean at the same time.
Got it. Putting the text on sideways is a pretty neat idea, actually. I'll give it a go tomorrow morning, unless someone beats me to it.
Did Yukari's mother die in a car accident?
^
Yep, as we were presented with skid marks of tires leading up to a crashed-up store facade and blood splatters.
Pellissier
2012-02-14, 06:16
So, since in episode 6 no one died, should I just move on the sticky the chart posted above (which is identical to the previous one) or should I wait for the upgraded version you are currently discussing? I'd suggest the latter (if anything to present something slightly "new"), but it's up to you guys in charge of this.
edit: episode 6 chart moved into the sticky. Save the potential upgrades for episode 7. ;)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-vertst.png
How's this; not too cluttered, I hope?
Changes:
- Changed the colour from red to dark red (#bb0000) for the relatives.
- Added the reason for death for all of the deceased minus Fujioka.
- Created a separate folder for all of the relatives.
- Added a rectangular outline for any misc. deaths, such as the death of that teacher. Format: CROSS - NAME - DATE - CAUSE OF DEATH.
After having spent quite a bit of time staring at class roster, I realized that most of the hottest girls are in Mei's row.
edit: episode 6 chart moved into the sticky. Save the potential upgrades for episode 7. ;)
Alright, will do.
The updated .psd file can be gotten here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver2.psd).
Endless Soul
2012-02-16, 16:23
Am I missing something? Did Nurse Sanae's little brother die in a falling elevator on the same day too? Or is that to show the family connection to Nurse Sanae?
Endless "Confused" Soul
Am I missing something? Did Nurse Sanae's little brother die in a falling elevator on the same day too? Or is that to show the family connection to Nurse Sanae?
Endless "Confused" Soul
Ahaha, this was precisely what I was worried about. It's to show the family connection to Sanae. Perhaps adding a coloured text legend might be of help to people looking at the scoreboard?
Extremesonic101
2012-02-18, 13:05
I'm not sure the different coloured text is necessary maybe just mention somewhere on it that the greyed/scratched out faces mean dead, text alone means family member dead.
I appreciate the feedback, but if I were to do that, wouldn't it mean that some of the information (the cause of the deaths of those with a grayed out portrait) would be lost, as the red text would have to be removed?
Extremesonic101
2012-02-19, 14:38
No not at all, you can keep it as is but mention somewere on the board, like in a foot not at the bottom put something like *Scratched Portraits/Light Red Text = Dead and cause, Deep Red Text = Family Member Dead.
That way the people with greyed portraits mean they're dead and the text can remain, the people who have text on them but have coloured portraits mean someone close to them died. Just so that people can be clear without having to change all the colours around
/not sure if I'm making sense ^^;
No not at all, you can keep it as is but mention somewere on the board, like in a foot not at the bottom put something like *Scratched Portraits/Light Red Text = Dead and cause, Deep Red Text = Family Member Dead.
That way the people with greyed portraits mean they're dead and the text can remain, the people who have text on them but have coloured portraits mean someone close to them died. Just so that people can be clear without having to change all the colours around
/not sure if I'm making sense ^^;
Yep, that's what I meant by 'coloured text legend'. But aye, thanks for your input!
Should the now deceased teacher's mother be included on the scoreboard? The problem is that we don't know her name or the date of her death. Oh yes, is there any point in including Mei's stillborn sister? The same problem crops up yet again, though. Were we ever told Kubodera's first name?
Edit:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver4.png
The .psd file can be gotten here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver4.psd).
Changes:
- Created a colour legend for the text. Red text refers to the character shown, whereas dark red text refers to any deceased relatives.
- Created a folder for any misc. deaths. such as Kubodera's.
And remember, Kubodera killed his elderly mother too.
Pellissier
2012-02-21, 10:31
I agree, Kubodera's mother should be included because, while ill, it was clearly stated that she was killed by his son. It's safe to say she died because of the phenomenon.
Okay, done.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver5.png.psd here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver4.psd).
Change(s):
- Added a portrait for Kubodera.
Since we weren't given the date of death of his mother, I simply left that part out.
Finally, the beach episode :naughty:
Sorry for that but couldn't help it :p
Now more seriously, the animation studio has done again a superb job with the atmosphere, but again the plot they got is at best mediocre, if not cheesy :(
Okay, done.
Change(s):
- Added a portrait for Kubodera.
Since we weren't given the date of death of his mother, I simply left that part out.
Good. I was just thinking that adding a portrait would be better, because, don't know if it's only me, but I hardly remember all the names in this anime. :)
A unknown character appear at the official site
http://s8.postimage.org/aqpif3jhh/908900.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
A unknown character appear at the official site
http://s8.postimage.org/aqpif3jhh/908900.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
Uuuh, she looks a lot like Mei.. I'm guessing she's Fujioka?
Uuuh, she looks a lot like Mei.. I'm guessing she's Fujioka?
Maybe, but... hmm. I was about to say, "those are some nice legs," but then I examined her neck as well, and on the whole it looks really, really thin. I don't suppose it could be a doll, though. That's really weird... Are they really going to kick the supernatural elements up a notch this early? I feel like it'd be too soon to have a true-to-form zombie or ghost appear.
A unknown character appear at the official site
http://s8.postimage.org/aqpif3jhh/908900.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
Someone managed to enhance it further:
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-7613.html#more
This is getting more interesting as we speak, along with the next episode.
Maybe, but... hmm. I was about to say, "those are some nice legs," but then I examined her neck as well, and on the whole it looks really, really thin. I don't suppose it could be a doll, though. That's really weird... Are they really going to kick the supernatural elements up a notch this early? I feel like it'd be too soon to have a true-to-form zombie or ghost appear.
Haha, yeah, her neck looks freakishly thin. I think it's just an art error though.
I agree she's Fujioka, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's a ghost. My guess is that she'll appear in a flashback. I could see Kouichi asking Mei to tell him a bit more about her cousin. I'm sure he's as curious as we are about the girl who was so close to Mei she called her her other half. If that's really Fujioka, then wow, she looks so upbeat compared to the rest of the family :heh:
Someone managed to enhance it further:
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-7613.html#more
This is getting more interesting as we speak, along with the next episode.
Is that a sea cumcumber Izumi is holding? Oooooh boy, they wouldn't dare do "that" in that show, would they?
Is that a sea cumcumber Izumi is holding? Oooooh boy, they wouldn't dare do "that" in that show, would they?
http://www.another-anime.jp/story/#story-08
LOL In disgust she throws it away. :heh:
Is that a sea cumcumber Izumi is holding? Oooooh boy, they wouldn't dare do "that" in that show, would they?
Twin-tailed, zettai ryouikki, tsunderes, in swimsuits, handling the SFW marine allusion of their introduction into adulthood can only lead to a couple of seconds of awesomeness :p
http://www.another-anime.jp/story/#story-08
LOL In disgust she throws it away. :heh:
... and sad life as modern feminists :(
:heh: I came across this blog, and with that girl wearing an eyepatch, I thought of Misaki:
http://tenslives.blog70.fc2.com/blog-entry-3826.html
The name of the mystery character has been added on the official website. Or maybe it's been there all along and I never noticed it, it was written in white on gray so it's hard to see. Edited it so that you don't have to kill your eyes to read it:
http://i.imgur.com/cNks5.png
Can anybody please translate it?
The name of the mystery character has been added on the official website. Or maybe it's been there all along and I never noticed it, it was written in white on gray so it's hard to see. Edited it so that you don't have to kill your eyes to read it:
http://i.imgur.com/cNks5.png
Can anybody please translate it?
I think it's been there since the site got updated with her image.
I ran the name past a Japanese speaking friend, and according to him that name translates to Fujioka Misaki. Her surname, Misaki, is written with a different Kanji, though.
Also, was it confirmed that Reiko is Ms. Mikami? They do look similar but I don't know..
As for the date of Nakao's death, since there were no dates given during the episode, should I simply assume that it's the day after the 8th of July, as Mikami told the class they will be going on that fieldtrip on the 7th of July in the previous episode. Is it really the next day, and not the next week or weekend?
Hakuromatsu
2012-02-27, 18:21
Also, was it confirmed that Reiko is Ms. Mikami? They do look similar but I don't know..
I've seen this a couple places around the Internet and am a bit baffled by it. They have different seiyuus and there are key differences in their appearances. How could they be the same person?
I've seen this a couple places around the Internet and am a bit baffled by it. They have different seiyuus and there are key differences in their appearances. How could they be the same person?
As have I. The fact that they have different seiyuus could be the producers of the anime simply trying to lead us away from the fact that they're the same person. Who would even consider two different characters that have different seiyuus to be the same person? But eh.. I've looked at screenshots of both in similar positions side by side, and while I can spot some rather vague similarities, there's nothing concrete that proves they're the same person. Plus, there's also the fact that Matsu said that he feels like he has seen her somewhere recently. Man, I'd laugh so hard if she is Mikami, but doesn't actually realize it. But yes, I'm not going to brush away this suspicion just quite yet. I'd love to hear the reasoning of as to why those people think those two are the same person, though.
Edit:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver4%20%28ep_08%29.png
.psd here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver4.psd).
I decided to go with 'death by dismemberment and with the 7th of July as the date of his death. If anyone feels like I'm wrong about either of those two things, feel free to edit the .psd file and upload a new image for episode 08.
haguruma
2012-02-27, 20:25
I ran the name past a Japanese speaking friend, and according to him that name translates to Fujioka Misaki. Her surname, Misaki, is written with a different Kanji, though.
It is the same name that Mizuno Sanae gave Kouichi in (I think) episode 3, Fujioka Misaki. She described the name as being written with the mi used in future (未来の未: mirai no mi) and saki like in "flowers bloom" (花が咲くの咲: hana ga saku no saki).
It's not uncommon to have different ways of writing one name, though Misaki would more ofte be written 美咲 or 三咲, etc... 未咲 is a bit strange.
Kunagisa
2012-02-28, 01:44
http://i.imgur.com/ZUZyL.png
S-s-season 2??!?~?~?!?!!!!
http://i.imgur.com/ZUZyL.png
S-s-season 2??!?~?~?!?!!!!
Wow. Whoever requested for a Season Two weeks ago should be congratulated.
http://i.imgur.com/ZUZyL.png
S-s-season 2??!?~?~?!?!!!!
WTF?
Are you sure that translates to S2?
It'd have to be anime original and the blu ray sales aren't looking good.
Then again there is an anime original prequel ova about Mei coming.
As if it's not enough, we're getting more details on the new character:
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-7693.html#more
No shit, it's Misaki Fujioka.
haguruma
2012-02-28, 05:58
WTF?
Are you sure that translates to S2?
It'd have to be anime original and the blu ray sales aren't looking good.
Then again there is an anime original prequel ova about Mei coming.
Another episode S should be the prequel OVA that ships with the manga special edition, as he mentioned that it's not a follow up but something like a spin-off.
Regarding Another 2 I'd suppose that Ayatsuji was talking about a follow up novel, because he said that he was planning that...I'm actually surprised that he's considering continuing it. But well, it was pretty popular...
As if it's not enough, we're getting more details on the new character:
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-7693.html#more
No shit, it's Misaki Fujioka.
No doubt about it. She looks exactly like a healthier and happier Mei. She even has the same giant side ahoge which I love.
I wasn't aware there was going to be a prequel OVA. It'll be interesting to see how Mei used to behave before the start of the series, and the kind of relationship she had with Fujioka.
Wilfriback
2012-02-28, 09:19
Did you looked below that Misaki in a swimsuit pic?
Pellissier
2012-02-28, 09:19
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver4%20%28ep_08%29.png
.psd here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9420612/another-deathwatch-arya-ver-aph-ver4.psd).
Added.
Have you considered updating the upper part with the "new" characters' layout on the official site? The one with the nameless shadow character (http://i.imgur.com/WX1b7.jpg). This way we'd be following the progression step by step, though I assume soon they'll give said character a face and a name, so the process would have to be repeated.
Regarding Another 2 I'd suppose that Ayatsuji was talking about a follow up novel, because he said that he was planning that...I'm actually surprised that he's considering continuing it. But well, it was pretty popular...
A follow up novel, huh. I guess there's some chance of there being another season of Another some time down the line.
Have you considered updating the upper part with the "new" characters' layout on the official site? The one with the nameless shadow character (http://i.imgur.com/WX1b7.jpg). This way we'd be following the progression step by step, though I assume soon they'll give said character a face and a name, so the process would have to be repeated.
Yes, I have. I'm just waiting until the site gets updated with a fully coloured, cut out image of Fujioka. With that cutout, I'll be able to include her in the top part without altering the overall width of the scoreboard.
haguruma
2012-02-28, 13:22
A follow up novel, huh. I guess there's some chance of there being another season of Another some time down the line.
Well, Another 2 is a tentative title (仮題) so it's possible that it'll be set in the same world but maybe with a whole other plot. I highly doubt that he would revisit the very same story twice, especially because all the mystery and urgency from the story would be gone.
It's not unlikely that bridging characters could exist, he did it before in the Yakata-series (with the detective) and I think with the Sasayaki-continuity as well. But it'd be as weird as when King's Shining follow-up had actually been another story from the hotel.
Well, Another 2 is a tentative title (仮題) so it's possible that it'll be set in the same world but maybe with a whole other plot. I highly doubt that he would revisit the very same story twice, especially because all the mystery and urgency from the story would be gone.
It's not unlikely that bridging characters could exist, he did it before in the Yakata-series (with the detective) and I think with the Sasayaki-continuity as well. But it'd be as weird as when King's Shining follow-up had actually been another story from the hotel.
Ah, right. That clears things up. Thanks.
ukulelembo
2012-02-28, 14:40
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-02-28/ayatsuji-plans-2-more-novels-of-horror-franchise-another
TinyRedLeaf
2012-02-28, 15:12
It struck me that it's unfortunate that we often can't name the students when we actually have a chart of their classroom seating plan. So, I translated as many of their names as I could. I used (?) to represent names with more than one reading or my best guess at how the name is pronounced.
赤沢 Akazawa前島 Maeshima桜木 Sakuragi風見 Kazami 藤卷 Fujimaki
渡辺 Watanabe中尾 Nakao中島 Nakashima猿田 Saruda(?)多多良 Tatara
小椋 Komu(?)米村 Yonemura(?)綾野 Ayano和久井 Wakui松井 Matsui
有田 Arita(?)水野 Mizuno望月 Mochizuki榊原 Sakakibara金木 Kinmoku(?)
佐藤 Sato辻井 Tsujii(?)江藤 Edou(?)王子 Ouji(?)杉浦 Sugiura
見崎 Misaki川堀 Kawahori杮沼 (???)勅使河原 Teshigawara高林 Takabayashi
It's interesting that Komu(?)-chan and Ayano-chan both appear in the OP but have, as yet, little to no significant appearances in the story itself. Well, Ayano narrowly escaped a falling panel of glass, but that was about it. It seems she'll play a bigger role in Ep9, though, if the preview is anything to go by.
It seems that Kumo(?)-chan is in the preview for episode 9 too:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/PoisonStrange/kumo.png
Looks like her to me, but can be another girl since I'm not so familiar with the students' faces
It struck me that it's unfortunate that we often can't name the students when we actually have a chart of their classroom seating plan. So, I translated as many of their names as I could. I used (?) to represent names with more than one reading or my best guess at how the name is pronounced.
赤沢 Akazawa前島 Maeshima桜木 Sakuragi風見 Kazami 藤卷 Fujimaki
渡辺 Watanabe中尾 Nakao中島 Nakashima猿田 Saruda(?)多多良 Tatara
小椋 Komu(?)米村 Yonemura(?)綾野 Ayano和久井 Wakui松井 Matsui
有田 Arita(?)水野 Mizuno望月 Mochizuki榊原 Sakakibara金木 Kinmoku(?)
佐藤 Sato辻井 Tsujii(?)江藤 Edou(?)王子 Ouji(?)杉浦 Sugiura
見崎 Misaki川堀 Kawahori杮沼 (???)勅使河原 Teshigawara高林 Takabayashi
It's interesting that Komu(?)-chan and Ayano-chan both appear in the OP but have, as yet, little to no significant appearances in the story itself. Well, Ayano narrowly escaped a falling panel of glass, but that was about it. It seems she'll play a bigger role in Ep9, though, if the preview is anything to go by.
Oooh. Thanks; those names will be of great help for the future fatality scoreboard(s).
Looks like her to me, but can be another girl since I'm not so familiar with the students' faces
Yep, that's definitely her. I hope the calamity doesn't claim her life in the next episode. x:
Dark Wing
2012-02-29, 18:09
Now I don't know if this has been brought up or not but while sitting at home I had nothing else better to do but rewatch past episodes of Another and came across something I believe of note.
After careful analysis of the opening for "Another". I found that there is brief glimpses of characters in a grainy film-like picture. I then noticed that as people die, they are removed from the opening and replaced with another character, who dies shortly afterward.
In episode 1, the order is Izumi Akazawa, Takako Sugiura, Yukari Sakuragi, Ikuo Takabayashi, Naoya Teshigawara, a long haired girl, Aya Ayano, Yuuya Mochizuki and Sanae Mizuno.
When Sakuragi dies in Episode 3, she is replaced with a short haired boy. He was the one who died in Episode 8. Takabayashi, who died in episode 5 has been replaced with this individual, who has not been introduced formally so far.
When Sanae Mizuno died in Episode 4, she was replaced with Mr. Kubodera, who died in Episode 7. Mr Kubodera has since been replaced with Mrs. Mizuno.
I theorize that the fourth and fifth positions give a hint towards the next students who will die, and the last position tells who is the next adult to die in the story.
Now I don't know if this has been brought up or not but while sitting at home I had nothing else better to do but rewatch past episodes of Another and came across something I believe of note.
After careful analysis of the opening for "Another". I found that there is brief glimpses of characters in a grainy film-like picture. I then noticed that as people die, they are removed from the opening and replaced with another character, who dies shortly afterward.
In episode 1, the order is Izumi Akazawa, Takako Sugiura, Yukari Sakuragi, Ikuo Takabayashi, Naoya Teshigawara, a long haired girl, Aya Ayano, Yuuya Mochizuki and Sanae Mizuno.
When Sakuragi dies in Episode 3, she is replaced with a short haired boy. He was the one who died in Episode 8. Takabayashi, who died in episode 5 has been replaced with this individual, who has not been introduced formally so far.
When Sanae Mizuno died in Episode 4, she was replaced with Mr. Kubodera, who died in Episode 7. Mr Kubodera has since been replaced with Mrs. Mizuno.
I theorize that the fourth and fifth positions give a hint towards the next students who will die, and the last position tells who is the next adult to die in the story.Wow nice catch.
I always watch the opening every new ep but I don't pay attention to it at all. I just let the ep roll while reading posts during the opening.
Very interesting.
Now I don't know if this has been brought up or not but while sitting at home I had nothing else better to do but rewatch past episodes of Another and came across something I believe of note.
After careful analysis of the opening for "Another". I found that there is brief glimpses of characters in a grainy film-like picture. I then noticed that as people die, they are removed from the opening and replaced with another character, who dies shortly afterward.
In episode 1, the order is Izumi Akazawa, Takako Sugiura, Yukari Sakuragi, Ikuo Takabayashi, Naoya Teshigawara, a long haired girl, Aya Ayano, Yuuya Mochizuki and Sanae Mizuno.
When Sakuragi dies in Episode 3, she is replaced with a short haired boy. He was the one who died in Episode 8. Takabayashi, who died in episode 5 has been replaced with this individual, who has not been introduced formally so far.
When Sanae Mizuno died in Episode 4, she was replaced with Mr. Kubodera, who died in Episode 7. Mr Kubodera has since been replaced with Mrs. Mizuno.
I theorize that the fourth and fifth positions give a hint towards the next students who will die, and the last position tells who is the next adult to die in the story.
Also the weapons are shown in the prologue. We had the elevator, boat, knife in bag. A car was also shown. Fire was also shown.
Hakuromatsu
2012-02-29, 20:10
And a chandelier!
I just hope Mei, Izumi and Kouichi survive.
I can't decide which of them are better pairings so I want all 3 to live :D
AC-Phoenix
2012-02-29, 20:57
One of them will probably end up as either Another or culprit.
Oyashiro
2012-02-29, 21:54
Also the weapons are shown in the prologue. We had the elevator, boat, knife in bag. A car was also shown. Fire was also shown.
I'm thinking that the fire might be a part of a flashback, actually. Yeah, the chandelier isn't one to forget. Someone will be questioning Chibiki in the library and then... bam! :uhoh:
I'm more interested in that body we see floating through the water. Not to mention the fact we see a bloody knife sitting in the rain, followed by (assuming!) Kouichi in the rain, smiling like a psychopath. ...I think there was a Ferris wheel also?
AC-Phoenix
2012-02-29, 22:10
Another notable thing is how Misaka smiles shortly after the boat is shown. Ah well who could hold it agaisnt her? I mean its a nice boat...
Episode 0 promo:
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Hakuromatsu
2012-03-02, 17:08
Oh boy, I don't even know what to say to that.
Remember when Misaki Mei was this creepy heterochromic ghost girl that did things like deliver a doll to her dead cousin in the morgue and talk cryptically about death? I sure don't.
http://s14.postimage.org/xjppdy1o1/79978.jpg
http://s14.postimage.org/7pfwo61o1/90890.jpg
http://s15.postimage.org/bpfpef94r/543566587.jpg
haguruma
2012-03-02, 21:05
http://s14.postimage.org/xjppdy1o1/79978.jpg
http://s14.postimage.org/7pfwo61o1/90890.jpg
http://s15.postimage.org/bpfpef94r/543566587.jpg
While I think that the spoiler section might be a better place for this one, I think they are cranking the whole "It has never been told before angle" up a little too far. It was part of the novel even though we learned about it by telling instead of showing...but well, what better way to market cute girls doing cute girlzy stuff and being inappropriatly erotic all the while if not by advertising it as being completely original...
Oh boy, I don't even know what to say to that.
Remember when Misaki Mei was this creepy heterochromic ghost girl that did things like deliver a doll to her dead cousin in the morgue and talk cryptically about death? I sure don't.
I remember. That was a few days after the one person who brightened her life, Fujioka, died. I don't see the problem.
Now I get why Mei said Fujioka was her other half. They were truly inseparable, and they even seemed to try to increase their natural ressemblance. Almost like twins.
Hakuromatsu
2012-03-03, 14:43
I remember. That was a few days after the one person who brightened her life, Fujioka, died. I don't see the problem.
I was joking -- I was talking about how audience perception of Mei has changed from January 2012 to March 2012, not how the character of Mei herself changed from April 1998 to July 1998.
Extremesonic101
2012-03-04, 01:47
I'm really digging Fujioka she's really cute. Btw when is this airing?
also not sure if this is old news or not, new to me and epic to me
http://seventhstyle.com/goto/http://dalian.7thstyle.com/2012/02/another-anime-nendoroid-gsc-001.jpg
haguruma
2012-03-05, 19:13
小椋 Komu(?)
Just thought I'd correct this, her name is Ogura...yeah, I know, who get's the idea to read muku as gura. Her full name appears to be Ogura Yumi...I'm just now going through the novel again, trying to get every full name I can.
EDIT:
I got all the names together and corrected some of the names with either the novel or a name-dictionary. So now we have a classroster of our own :heh:
Please look here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4040733&postcount=1085) for the corrected version of the roster.
I find it funny how Ayatsuji snuck some stuff in like he always does. For example Tsujii Yukito was also a character in his 1989 novel Ningyoukan no satsujin (Murder in the Doll Mansion) and also served as a self-insert (Ayatsuji Yukito 綾辻行人 - Tsujii Yukito 辻井雪人)
25. 水野 猛 Mizuno Takeru sister died by head trauma
I can't remember, which episode did this happen?
I can't remember, which episode did this happen?
That's the nurse in episode 4
Ah, her. Totally forgot her brother's name. That's why I didn't connect it with her.
Okay, I'm in need of expiration dates for those two (July 21 or 22 might be plausible, as there's no date displayed on this episode).
綾野 綾 Ayano Akane X car accident, parents died in car accident
小椋 由美 Ogura Yumi brother died in home incident
Edit: nvm.
Gonna have to figure out how to organize and tidy up the whole roster.
haguruma
2012-03-06, 10:25
Okay, I'm in need of expiration dates for those two (July 21 or 22 might be plausible, as there's no date displayed on this episode).
綾野 綾 Ayano Akane X car accident, parents died in car accident
小椋 由美 Ogura Yumi brother died in home incident
I read it up in the novel and there Ogura Atsushi (小椋 敦志) died on July 30th (the same day that the protagonists went into the school)...but of course I can't prove that the anime is using the exact same dates as the novel did. But considering that the school trip was announced as starting on August 8th in the anime as well, at least as far as I remember, it would make it likely that we have already advanced to the end of July.
There is also the point that it had to have been a few days between them returning from their trip and the autopsy results being passed over to Chibiki. That plus 2 or 3 days makes it likely.
Oh yes, one other thing. You should probably decide whether you would want to use the surname or given name on that chart. You used Mizuno Sanae, Sakuragi Yukari (btw. her mothers name is Mieko) and Ayano Aya (yes, it's Aya I...overlooked her name in the novel before), but then again Fujioka Misaki, Nakao Junta and Takabayashi Ikuo. Though I think that was because the anime never gave us their full names :heh:
I added the class roster a little to make it a little more informational and corrected some names that I missed while searching through the novel
Class 3-3 / 1998
Homeroom Teacher: 久保寺 Kubodera 07.13. X suicide, mother killed by aphyxiation
Assistant Homeroom Teacher: 三神 Mikami
赤沢 泉 Akazawa Izumi
有田 松子 Arita Matsuko
綾野 綾 Ayano Aya 07.30. X car accident, same day parents died in same car accident
江藤 悠 Etou Yuu
王子 誠 Ouji Makoto
小椋 由美 Ogura Yumi 07.30. brother Atsushi (敦志) died in home incident
杮沼 小百合 Kakinuma Sayuri
風見 智彦 Kazami Tomohiko
金木 杏子 Kaneki Kyouko
川堀 健蔵 Kawahori Kenzou
桜木 ゆかり Sakuragi Yukari 05.26. X impalement, same day mother Mieko (三枝子) died in car accident
佐藤 和江 Sato Kazue
猿田 昇 Saruta Noboru
杉浦 多佳子 Sugiura Takako
高林 郁夫 Takabayashi Ikuo 06.04. X heart attack
多多良 恵 Tatara Megumi
辻井 雪人 Tsujii Yukito
勅使河原 直哉 Teshigawara Naoya
中尾 順太 Nakao Junta 07.18. X intracranial hemorrhage (?)
中島 幸子 Nakajima Sachiko
藤卷 奈緒実 Fujisaki Naomi
前島 学 Maeshima Manabu
松井 亜紀 Matsui Aki
見崎 鳴 Misaki Mei 04.25. cousin Fujioka Misaki (藤岡未咲) died due to kidney failure
水野 猛 Mizuno Takeru 06.03. sister (沙苗) died by head trauma
望月 優矢 Mochizuki Yuuya
米村 茂樹 Yonemura Shigeki
和久井 大輔 Wakui Daisuke
渡辺 珊 Watanabe San
榊原 恒一 Sakakibara Kouichi
Another: ???
EDIT:
Thanks for the added info, am doing corrections right now. :D Didn't want to bother reading the manga or the book unless I first finish watching the whole show.
No problem at all. Just make sure you use the corrected list...I apparently skipped some of the names yesterday.
Thanks for the added info, am doing corrections right now. :D Didn't want to bother reading the manga or the book unless I first finish watching the whole show.
Edit: need to revise completely.
Hakuromatsu
2012-03-06, 10:59
Nakao should be "death by cerebral contusion" not "death by dismemberment."
Damn, bad brain! Brainfart! :heh: Going back at it again.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/soulassassin547/another-deathwatch-sa-ep09-4.jpg
*now firing up InDesign CS5 to create a more cleaner roster layout*
sa547, this might help you in cleaning up the scoreboard. Or well, the top part anyway. I would've done it, but I've been busy as of late.
http://www.another-anime.jp/character/images/chara_sprites_13.png
*now firing up InDesign CS5 to create a more cleaner roster layout*
If you are going to redesign it all, an idea could be to lengthen the disposition desk section to space out a desk from the next below, enough to let all the data fit between two desks. It would be a tedious work, I know. Just an idea.
If I could be helpful, let me know. :)
Pellissier
2012-03-06, 15:07
"EP 09 final?"
Probably there's not much room, but Akane's parents aren't listed. In addition, if I've understood correctly her name's not Akane, but Aya (Ayano Aya), so that needs to be fixed as well.
I may also add haguruma's class roster as addition to the sticky, if it's troublesome to implement it in the chart.
Oh yes, one other thing. You should probably decide whether you would want to use the surname or given name on that chart. You used Mizuno Sanae, Sakuragi Yukari (btw. her mothers name is Mieko) and Ayano Aya (yes, it's Aya I...overlooked her name in the novel before), but then again Fujioka Misaki, Nakao Junta and Takabayashi Ikuo. Though I think that was because the anime never gave us their full names :heh:
Wait a minute here, it's Fujioka (last name) Misaki (first name)? I thought it was the opposite until now... mind = blown.
That means her given name is her cousin's last name. Ok. At least that explains why the kanjis are different.
haguruma
2012-03-06, 17:23
I may also add haguruma's class roster as addition to the sticky, if it's troublesome to implement it in the chart.
Cool, do that. It's not much but I think people might find it interesting to get to know their complete names.
Wait a minute here, it's Fujioka (last name) Misaki (first name)? I thought it was the opposite until now... mind = blown.
That means her given name is her cousin's last name. Ok. At least that explains why the kanjis are different.
Yepp, if she were closer related she'd be Misaki Misaki (見崎 未咲) :p
I think Japanese name order is still confusing, especially went sub-groups don't really agree on one way to write the names. While I prefer the use of translation I normally leave the "surname - given name" order intact because it creates less confusion...especially because even in Japan you wouldn't write a Western name backwards, you'd still write John Smith and not suddenly Smith John.
Pellissier
2012-03-07, 04:55
Cool, do that. It's not much but I think people might find it interesting to get to know their complete names.
Just one thing, in which order did you write them, perhaps the class registry? Anyway, I think the names' order should at least mach the seats they are (to make a visual confrontation with the chart much easier; not all names are visible there, let alone the fact most people are not at ease with kanji).
So I believe that in our case it would be better if we sort them out by rows. Something like this (just including some "famous" romanized names for simplicity, the layout you designed with name in kanji, name in romaji and "happenings" is ok):
1st Row (left):
1. Akazawa
2.
3. Ogura
4.
5.
6. Misaki
2nd Row:
7.
8. Nakao
9.
10. Mizuno
11.
12.
3d Row:
13. Sakuragi
14.
15. Ayano
16.
17.
18.
and so on.
Yepp, if she were closer related she'd be Misaki Misaki (見崎 未咲) :p
I think Japanese name order is still confusing, especially went sub-groups don't really agree on one way to write the names. While I prefer the use of translation I normally leave the "surname - given name" order intact because it creates less confusion...especially because even in Japan you wouldn't write a Western name backwards, you'd still write John Smith and not suddenly Smith John.
I've pondered for a long time which order to use, and I eventually decided it was better to write them in the western order after I noticed Japanese themselves adopt the given name-surname order when they write their name in romaji (at least that's what they do in seiyuu/idol magazines :heh: ). I think it's less confusing that way.
Here's the fixed version:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/soulassassin547/another-deathwatch-sa-ep09-4.jpg
Been having too much to work on lately, so being plagued with much brain fart in the last two days. :P
TinyRedLeaf
2012-03-07, 12:09
A quick question: The official English title of Ep10 is "Glass Eye". I don't think it's a direct translation of the Japanese title, 漆黑, is it? The kanji literally mean "pitch black".
I ask because "Body Paint" doesn't seem to be a direct translation of 連鎖 either. The kanji literally mean "connected locks".
Similarly, the title for Ep8, "Hair Stand", doesn't correspond with its Japanese version, 紺碧 ("dark blue-jade green").
I think someone mentioned they have a different Japanese and English title so they can have 2 different titles for the same episode.
Reminds me of those episode titles used in Eva, in which there are two completely different titles, one in English and another in kanji.
In Another's case, I think it's more due to the challenge of finding approximate terms in both languages than simply trying to be "cool". It's interesting that the English titles build on the dolls motif, while the Japanese titles tend to be more "poetic", for lack of better description.
On reflection, I realised that Squarecrow and sa547 were right after all. The two sets of titles are very likely meant to serve different purposes. It's easier to show what I mean:
EpKanjiLiteralOfficial
Key events
0因果cause and effectthe Other
Life and death of Misaki Fujioka.
1素描rough sketchsame
Introduction to Kouichi, Yomiyama and Mei.
2思惑speculationblueprint
Is Mei a ghost?
3骨組skeletal frameworkbone work
Hints of a curse. First death.
4輪郭silhouetteput flesh
Curse's effects outlined. Death at the hospital.
5拡散scatterbuild limbs
Students start avoiding Kouichi.
6二人two peopleface-to-face
Kouichi and Mei become a non-existent couple.
7変調change of tonesphere joint
Ostracism abandoned. Active effort to probe phenomenon.
8紺碧deep bluehair stand
Death at sea.
9連鎖chain linksbody paint
Past deaths unfold in parallel to those in the present.
10漆黑pitch blackglass eye
tbd
So, it seems that the English titles conform to the doll/doll-making motif, while the Japanese titles allude to significant plot developments, sometimes in oblique ways. The official titles for Ep0 seem particularly noteworthy. The "other" who was the "karmic cause and effect"... of the phenomenon?
Makes you wonder about Misaki Fujioka, doesn't it?
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-07, 17:19
On reflection, I realised that Squarecrow and sa547 were right after all. The two sets of titles are very likely meant to serve different purposes. It's easier to show what I mean:
EpKanjiLiteralOfficial
Key events
0因果cause and effectthe Other
Life and death of Misaki Fujioka.
1素描rough sketchsame
Introduction to Kouichi, Yomiyama and Mei.
2思惑speculationblueprint
Is Mei a ghost?
3骨組skeletal frameworkbone work
Hints of a curse. First death.
4輪郭silhouetteput flesh
Curse's effects outlined. Death at the hospital.
5拡散scatterbuild limbs
Students start avoiding Kouichi.
6二人two peopleface-to-face
Kouichi and Mei become a non-existent couple.
7変調change of tonesphere joint
Ostracism abandoned. Active effort to probe phenomenon.
8紺碧deep bluehair stand
Death at sea.
9連鎖chain linksbody paint
Past deaths unfold in parallel to those in the present.
10漆黑pitch blackglass eye
tbd
So, it seems that the English titles conform to the doll/doll-making motif, while the Japanese titles allude to significant plot developments, sometimes in oblique ways. The official titles for Ep0 seem particularly noteworthy. The "other" who was the "karmic cause and effect"... of the phenomenon?
Makes you wonder about Misaki Fujioka, doesn't it?
The other probably refers to them looking alike.
I just wonder why the school doesn't shut down class 3-3 altogether? If there are no students to ever enter class 3-3, there wouldn't be these incidents or possible incidents each year. Aside from not having a show to watch :heh:, wouldn't it be the easiest solution?
Also, what factors in as to whom from a previous class returns as an Another? Are we given any clues about that?
Perhaps they want to keep 3-3 to appease the spirit of the dead student, and at the same time try to give a semblance of continuity and normalcy, except most of the countermeasures are flawed and could not prevent deaths from occurring.
haguruma
2012-03-09, 08:43
I just wonder why the school doesn't shut down class 3-3 altogether? If there are no students to ever enter class 3-3, there wouldn't be these incidents or possible incidents each year. Aside from not having a show to watch :heh:, wouldn't it be the easiest solution?
Shutting down the 3-3 isn't that easy, you'd pretty much have to shut down the 3-4 and 3-5 as well, because the next one would practically be the 3-3. Regional government would probably not be happy about a state school suddenly dropping of 2/3 of their students in the final year of middle school, so unless you close the school it won't work (and even then it's a question if the curse wouldn't just travel along to the school they would have to build because of that).
Moving out of town is no small feat either, especially in 90's Japan when the economy is fairly weak. Most people wouldn't be able to afford it and would have trouble finding a new job.
And we shouldn't forget that while the deaths seem very close to us, because we know all those people, it's probably not as close to the whole population of Yomiyama.
How many people have died during the last year in your town? I assume more than 10 or 20. And probably some percentage of that will have been accidents, murder, suicide, illness in young age...in a town which has probably at least 5000 fixed inhabitants ~20 deaths per year are nothing too strange. Would you petition for a school to close down because you heard that the brother of a student in the class that your child could maybe attend in 3 years died under mysterious circumstances 5 years ago?
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-09, 11:49
Shutting down the 3-3 isn't that easy, you'd pretty much have to shut down the 3-4 and 3-5 as well, because the next one would practically be the 3-3. Regional government would probably not be happy about a state school suddenly dropping of 2/3 of their students in the final year of middle school, so unless you close the school it won't work (and even then it's a question if the curse wouldn't just travel along to the school they would have to build because of that).
Moving out of town is no small feat either, especially in 90's Japan when the economy is fairly weak. Most people wouldn't be able to afford it and would have trouble finding a new job.
And we shouldn't forget that while the deaths seem very close to us, because we know all those people, it's probably not as close to the whole population of Yomiyama.
How many people have died during the last year in your town? I assume more than 10 or 20. And probably some percentage of that will have been accidents, murder, suicide, illness in young age...in a town which has probably at least 5000 fixed inhabitants ~20 deaths per year are nothing too strange. Would you petition for a school to close down because you heard that the brother of a student in the class that your child could maybe attend in 3 years died under mysterious circumstances 5 years ago?
They probably would, since there is a pretty obvious connection.
Well maybe japan wouldn't but both Germany and Austria would definitely close said school for at least 3 weeks if a student died on school grounds.
I still remember our school having a black flag hanging over it for at least a week when a student died(at home) due to CO2 poisoning.
I can very much imagine how they would close a school if things like this would coincidentally happen within a few months over several years.
Another option would be indeed shutting down the class and increasing the size of other classes at the same time.
I do however live in the capital so its easier for me to imagine possible solutions.
haguruma
2012-03-09, 12:43
They probably would, since there is a pretty obvious connection.
Well maybe japan wouldn't but both Germany and Austria would definitely close said school for at least 3 weeks if a student died on school grounds.
I'd like to disagree. I live in Germany and while I went to school (90's and early 00's) there were some instances of students or teachers dying. Most of the time it was plain sickness or accidents, but we also had at least one case of suicide. While those in the same class were excused from school if we didn't want to attend, the school didn't shut down...that's almost impossible to do.
Maybe it would also depend who that student was.
I think it really depends on what kind of case it was, but the only time schools were actually closed were cases when a student went on a rampage and killed several people...but that is because there would be several traumatized victims and maybe even the danger of copycats.
Another option would be indeed shutting down the class and increasing the size of other classes at the same time.
I do however live in the capital so its easier for me to imagine possible solutions.
Increasing the size of the otherr classes would mean having two classes with 75 students each...that's not only problematic it is simply an impossible situation. And I think even in Vienna you'd have a hard time convincing the local government that a functioning school has to be closed and a new school built because there seems to be a curse on one of the classes that might heighten the chance of people dying.
Additionaly, yes, we are talking about a smalltown that seems to have only 2 middle schools...closing one of them down is a serious deal.
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-09, 13:09
I'd like to disagree. I live in Germany and while I went to school (90's and early 00's) there were some instances of students or teachers dying. Most of the time it was plain sickness or accidents, but we also had at least one case of suicide. While those in the same class were excused from school if we didn't want to attend, the school didn't shut down...that's almost impossible to do.
Maybe it would also depend who that student was.
I think it really depends on what kind of case it was, but the only time schools were actually closed were cases when a student went on a rampage and killed several people...but that is because there would be several traumatized victims and maybe even the danger of copycats.
Increasing the size of the otherr classes would mean having two classes with 75 students each...that's not only problematic it is simply an impossible situation. And I think even in Vienna you'd have a hard time convincing the local government that a functioning school has to be closed and a new school built because there seems to be a curse on one of the classes that might heighten the chance of people dying.
Additionaly, yes, we are talking about a smalltown that seems to have only 2 middle schools...closing one of them down is a serious deal.
Well both the german and Austrian government are not superstitious, yet I'm pretty sure that they would close at least the class if a scene like in another would occure for 26 years.
Even if its just for the sake of not creating a political issue.
And no, classes with 75 students are out of question (college and University excluded)
When i was in high school the targeted class size was a maximum of 30 students, increased by a few if absolutely necessary.
My idea of how they would do it is actually distributing the students around all available classes in available schools in an acceptable distance.
Or opening up new classes in other schools combined with above.
But yes,, ccompletely shutting down a school is almost impossible nowadays. Shutting down a single class though (namely 3-3) though is a lot easier. especially since the students can return after the end of the year.
haguruma
2012-03-09, 14:38
Well both the german and Austrian government are not superstitious, yet I'm pretty sure that they would close at least the class if a scene like in another would occure for 26 years.
Even if its just for the sake of not creating a political issue.
Probably yes, but it hasn't been a continuous event for 26 years, rather there has been such a huge inconsistency that not even a clear definition of how the calamity works could be found.
The novel might be a lot clearer on how inconsistent the phenomenon is but the anime as well has at least hinted that there are years when nothing happens at all, years when the countermeassures apparently worked and years when it happened late because the countermeassures were wrong.
1972 - Yomiyama Misaki died
1973 - 16 people died
1974 - ~12 people died
1975 - nothing happened
1976 - 14 people died (5 students, 9 relatives)
1977 - ?
1978 - ?
1979 - ~12 people died
1980 - ?
1981 - ?
1982 - ?
1983 - 8 people died
1984 - ?
1985 - ?
1986 - ?
1987 - tragedy of '87 (last schooltrip) 7+ people died (6 students, 1 teacher, +unknown)
1988 - countermeassures worked
1989 - nothing happened
1990 - countermeassures worked
1991 - ~12 people died
1992 - nothing happened
1993 - ~12 people died
1994 - nothing happened
1995 - nothing happened
1996 - 7 people died
1997 - nothing happened
1998 - 12 deaths until now
Out of 26 years we only have about 10 years where apparently something happened, that is less than a 50/50 percentage. So there's no concrete point on which you could argue for a local schoolsystem to be restructured so heavily.
Even if there were a little over a hundred deaths in the last 26 years, as we have seen already there is a high probability that at least 50% of them (if nor more were relatives). While that might appear strange, it is not a logical argument to say, "My brother died in a car crash, close down this school or more people will die!".
My idea of how they would do it is actually distributing the students around all available classes in available schools in an acceptable distance.
Or opening up new classes in other schools combined with above.
But yes,, ccompletely shutting down a school is almost impossible nowadays. Shutting down a single class though (namely 3-3) though is a lot easier. especially since the students can return after the end of the year.
Well apparently there is only Yomi North and Yomi South middle school, at least those are the only mentioned middle schools. Acceptable distance is also a relative term, especially in mountain regions like Yomiyama appears to be.
And shutting down only the 3-3 just won't work I'm afraid, because it was already established that renaming or relocating doesn't work...and in that case the next higher class would simply be the "3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school".
And shutting down only the 3-3 just won't work I'm afraid, because it was already established that renaming or relocating doesn't work...and in that case the next higher class would simply be the "3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school".
I guess that's why the class is still there. I had initially thought about just skipping the counting from 3-3 to straight to 3-4 but that was when I forgot that renaming/relocating was already stated not to have worked. So many facts and clues, I need to reorganize them into a book or something. :heh:
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-09, 18:34
Probably yes, but it hasn't been a continuous event for 26 years, rather there has been such a huge inconsistency that not even a clear definition of how the calamity works could be found.
The novel might be a lot clearer on how inconsistent the phenomenon is but the anime as well has at least hinted that there are years when nothing happens at all, years when the countermeassures apparently worked and years when it happened late because the countermeassures were wrong.
1972 - Yomiyama Misaki died
1973 - 16 people died
1974 - ~12 people died
1975 - nothing happened
1976 - 14 people died (5 students, 9 relatives)
1977 - ?
1978 - ?
1979 - ~12 people died
1980 - ?
1981 - ?
1982 - ?
1983 - 8 people died
1984 - ?
1985 - ?
1986 - ?
1987 - tragedy of '87 (last schooltrip) 7+ people died (6 students, 1 teacher, +unknown)
1988 - countermeassures worked
1989 - nothing happened
1990 - countermeassures worked
1991 - ~12 people died
1992 - nothing happened
1993 - ~12 people died
1994 - nothing happened
1995 - nothing happened
1996 - 7 people died
1997 - nothing happened
1998 - 12 deaths until now
Out of 26 years we only have about 10 years where apparently something happened, that is less than a 50/50 percentage. So there's no concrete point on which you could argue for a local schoolsystem to be restructured so heavily.
Even if there were a little over a hundred deaths in the last 26 years, as we have seen already there is a high probability that at least 50% of them (if nor more were relatives). While that might appear strange, it is not a logical argument to say, "My brother died in a car crash, close down this school or more people will die!".
Well apparently there is only Yomi North and Yomi South middle school, at least those are the only mentioned middle schools. Acceptable distance is also a relative term, especially in mountain regions like Yomiyama appears to be.
And shutting down only the 3-3 just won't work I'm afraid, because it was already established that renaming or relocating doesn't work...and in that case the next higher class would simply be the "3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school".
Yes, renaming and relocating doesn't work. not having said class at all would however.
Splitting the class and never opening 3- 3 is an entirely different thing though.
(I also think relocating refered to it being relocated to another room)
haguruma
2012-03-09, 20:58
Yes, renaming and relocating doesn't work. not having said class at all would however.
Splitting the class and never opening 3- 3 is an entirely different thing though.
(I also think relocating refered to it being relocated to another room)
Yes, but not having that class would require there to be also no class that is above in numeration to 3-3, or simply there could only be 3 classes. But as was discussed quite often there are 3-1 to 3-5 and not opening the 3-3 would simply make the 3-4 into the 3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school. You could basically call the place "happy-time-never-die-fun-land" and it wouldn't change what it is.
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-09, 21:16
Yes, but not having that class would require there to be also no class that is above in numeration to 3-3, or simply there could only be 3 classes. But as was discussed quite often there are 3-1 to 3-5 and not opening the 3-3 would simply make the 3-4 into the 3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school. You could basically call the place "happy-time-never-die-fun-land" and it wouldn't change what it is.
How would not opening it make 3-4 to that class?
The calamity is bound to class 3-3; if you can actively skip that class by trick X it would no longer be 3-3.
maybe there is a misunderstanding about my 'plan'
3-3 --> distributed over other schools and classes; No class 3-3 in affected school
Term ends
Distributed students come back after having passed the class elsewhere, now being put in 3-4
So no renaming of classes or changing locations.
Or they can simply finish the current 3-3 class, then newly registered students are enrolled into all other classes, leaving class 3-3 still there but empty. If the class still exists, just without occupants, shouldn't the curse be avoided?
haguruma
2012-03-09, 22:17
How would not opening it make 3-4 to that class?
The calamity is bound to class 3-3; if you can actively skip that class by trick X it would no longer be 3-3.
maybe there is a misunderstanding about my 'plan'
3-3 --> distributed over other schools and classes; No class 3-3 in affected school
Term ends
Distributed students come back after having passed the class elsewhere, now being put in 3-4
So no renaming of classes or changing locations.
The calamity is not bound to class 3-3 it is bound to the 3rd class of the 3rd year of one of the middle schools in Yomiyama.
Also the 3rd year is the last year of middle school, after that they go to high school and for the entry applications it's pretty important how and how good you finished your education so far. Something radical like changing school has to be explained and "there is a curse" is not actually a good idea.
The children talk about it as well. They want to get it behind them and just graduate from middle school and attend a good high school.
Or they can simply finish the current 3-3 class, then newly registered students are enrolled into all other classes, leaving class 3-3 still there but empty. If the class still exists, just without occupants, shouldn't the curse be avoided?
The question here is again, is an empty class actually a class? Just by calling it differently, does it change reality?! Calling an empty class room "class 3-3" doesn't make it the 3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school...it's simply the one make belief class that they chose to call 3-3.
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-09, 22:19
Arrgs forgot about the how the japanese school system is divided there...
The calamity is not bound to class 3-3 it is bound to the 3rd class of the 3rd year of one of the middle schools in Yomiyama.
Okay, then that makes a big difference. Pretty much unavoidable then, I suppose. For some reason, it got stuck in my head that the calamity is bound to the actual classroom. >_<
From official site
Glass Eye
http://www.another-anime.jp/story/#story-10
http://s8.postimage.org/9hzc4pwvp/1331375793236.jpg
That mansion from the Op....
That mansion from the Op....
Chandelier time?
The preview pics are very interesting.
- Chibiki is in the class picture, how come?
- Another flashback, huh? Kouichi's mom was pretty hot.
Hakuromatsu
2012-03-10, 20:15
Huh, I can't tell what Kazami is holding there. A remote? At any rate, it's good to see him back...which may mean his time is up.
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-10, 21:51
Huh, I can't tell what Kazami is holding there. A remote? At any rate, it's good to see him back...which may mean his time is up.
Looks like a folded hankerchief
TinyRedLeaf
2012-03-12, 14:47
And so, after the events of Ep10, it's clear why its kanji title is "Pitch Black".
EpKanjiLiteralOfficial
Key events
0因果cause and effectthe Other
Life and death of Misaki Fujioka.
1素描rough sketchsame
Introduction to Kouichi, Yomiyama and Mei.
2思惑speculationblueprint
Is Mei a ghost?
3骨組skeletal frameworkbone work
Hints of a curse. First death.
4輪郭silhouetteput flesh
Curse's effects outlined. Death at the hospital.
5拡散scatterbuild limbs
Students start avoiding Kouichi.
6二人two peopleface-to-face
Kouichi and Mei become a non-existent couple.
7変調change of tonesphere joint
Ostracism abandoned. Active effort to probe phenomenon.
8紺碧deep bluehair stand
Death at sea.
9連鎖chain linksbody paint
Past deaths unfold in parallel to those in the present.
10漆黑pitch blackglass eye
It likely refers to the "colour" of death, as seen through Mei's glass eye.
Meanwhile, the title of the next episode, 惨劇, literally means "tragedy". I think it's hard not to see why.
^
For the last two episodes, looks like we'll have to brace for the worst: '98's body count could very well rise up or even exceed to that of Class '83.
Pellissier
2012-03-13, 12:04
sa547, you should change image host since imagebucket is giving a "too many views" kind of message. Please switch to imgur or something, otherwise the charts will disappear after a few days. You need to repost episode 9's chart either because I didn't save a copy of it. Thanks.
So I assume that ep.10's chart is just gonna be the same of episode 9, as we don't know for sure who died at the end. I thought that we'd need to change the relation between Misaki and Fujioka, from cousins to twins, but I see that no mention of it was made in the chart to begin with.
This week I'll also include haguruma's class roster. I would have preferred a slightly different version (or at least having both versions, the registry order and the seats order), but if not possible the provided one is ok, and doesn't need changes from ep.9 to ep.10 either since for us anime watchers the person who has died is episode 10 is still uncertain.
^
Somebody took the Brightslap pic in my Photobucket account and plastered it someplace around Himado.in with heavy traffic, which explains for the "overload" (nearly 60,000 views).
Hopefully the account will be back to normal after I renamed the pic in question.
Hakuromatsu
2012-03-13, 14:32
Huh, I can't tell what Kazami is holding there. A remote? At any rate, it's good to see him back...which may mean his time is up.
An inhaler... :rolleyes: Well, I tried.
But I suppose I predicted his death at the same time? If that was indeed his body.
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-13, 17:14
An inhaler... :rolleyes: Well, I tried.
But I suppose I predicted his death at the same time? If that was indeed his body.
Yes it was. There is no other student with this hair-color/style mix.
Funny thing though is: He seemingly died someone elses death here, yo if he survived in the Novel and the manga the other person might now take his place as survivor.
Which also makes it questionable if he is really dead.
TinyRedLeaf
2012-03-13, 22:21
This week I'll also include haguruma's class roster. I would have preferred a slightly different version (or at least having both versions, the registry order and the seats order), but if not possible the provided one is ok, and doesn't need changes from ep.9 to ep.10 either since for us anime watchers the person who has died is episode 10 is still uncertain.
Um... the seat order had been provided (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=4030533#post4030533):
赤沢 Akazawa前島 Maeshima桜木 Sakuragi風見 Kazami 藤卷 Fujimaki
渡辺 Watanabe中尾 Nakao中島 Nakashima猿田 Saruta多多良 Tatara
小椋 Ogura米村 Yonemura綾野 Ayano和久井 Wakui松井 Matsui
有田 Arita水野 Mizuno望月 Mochizuki榊原 Sakakibara金木 Kaneki
佐藤 Sato辻井 Tsujii江藤 Etou王子 Ouji杉浦 Sugiura
見崎 Misaki川堀 Kawahori杮沼 Kakinuma勅使河原 Teshigawara高林 Takabayashi
EDIT:
If you really want it, it's just a simple matter for me to edit the names that have been translated incorrectly.
Corrections done.
Pellissier
2012-03-14, 11:40
Um... the seat order had been provided (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=4030533#post4030533):
Sorry, either missed or forgotten.
Sticky updated, included haguruma's roster, your seats order, and the chart for episode 10 (the same of episode 9 since, according to the anime, we still don't know the name of the boy we saw dying that day)
Should the 1998 class roster (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4052572&postcount=12) be updated with the episode 10 information regarding Mei? The chart still says Misaki is her cousin, not her twin sister.
Pellissier
2012-03-14, 12:08
Should the 1998 class roster (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4052572&postcount=12) be updated with the episode 10 information regarding Mei? The chart still says Misaki is her cousin, not her twin sister.
Thanks, missed that bit (I checked for it in the chart, but didn't think of the roster). Fixed.
From TinyRedLeaf's post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=4052629#post4052629) of the 1998 class seat order.
I highlighted in red the students that died or had family members die. It's interesting that we don't have any deaths in Koichi's row yet - unless the body in ep10 turns out to be Kazami. But the first 3 rows of desks have 2 deaths in them each. (The copy-n-paste didn't align the rows/columns properly.)
Class 3-3 / 1998 - Seats Order
赤沢 Akazawa 前島 Maeshima 桜木 Sakuragi 風見 Kazami 藤卷 Fujimaki
渡辺 Watanabe 中尾 Nakao 中島 Nakashima 猿田 Saruta 多多良 Tatara
小椋 Ogura 米村 Yonemura 綾野 Ayano 和久井 Wakui 松井 Matsui
有田 Arita 水野 Mizuno 望月 Mochizuki 榊原 Sakakibara 金木 Kaneki
佐藤 Sato 辻井 Tsujii 江藤 Etou 王子 Ouji 杉浦 Sugiura
見崎 Misaki 川堀 Kawahori 杮沼 Kakinuma 勅使河原 Teshigawara 高林 Takabayashi
Pellissier
2012-03-15, 02:41
I've deleted the last few posts because they were taking a spoilerish tangent. Let's make a point that we just don't know who died in episode 10 yet, and let's leave it at that. Next monday we'll (supposedly) learn the truth.
haguruma, you cannot post novel spoilers in this thread even with properly marked spoiler tags. The only place for future events' spoilers are the novel and manga threads and the "spoilers and speculations" thread.
Good lord. Blood everywhere.
http://s7.postimage.org/6y98kgczf/6546546.jpg
http://www.another-anime.jp/story/#story-11-pre
^
Looks like apocalyptic shit has gotten real... Battle Royale, bar none.
Lord of Fire
2012-03-17, 00:35
Also seems to me like someone is trying to go after Mei, implying that Kouichi will have nothing of it.
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-17, 14:25
Good lord. Blood everywhere.
http://s7.postimage.org/6y98kgczf/6546546.jpg
http://www.another-anime.jp/story/#story-11-pre
Looks like either one of the girls or Ms Mikami have snapped and go on a rampage with a machete now.
That certain girl(can't read her nameEdit: Ouji) and Ms Mikami are at least the only known characters with hair styles close enough lol. - Or its a completely new character.
I've run out of time today, so I'll do up the fatality scoreboard for episode 11 after I get home tomorrow, unless sa547 manages to find some time to do it before me. ^^
Gonna rewatch later after lunch, do a final tally, but personally given the odds...
Strongly reminiscent of Battle Royale, only two will be left standing.
INCOMING!
http://i.imgur.com/1G8kal.jpg (http://imgur.com/1G8ka)
It's been simplified for speed, but will add more detail later.
Question marks indicate 50/50 or less chance of survival. A cross or a name marked in red indicates fatality.
Updated as of 3:40pm / APPROVAL PENDING
PSD file available here (http://www.mediafire.com/i/?pvr6dnfli7gd1jf)
INCOMING!
http://i.imgur.com/NLE0xl.jpg (http://imgur.com/NLE0x)
It's been simplified for speed, but will add more detail later.
You missed one. In the class roster (bottom) list, all the way on the right and the fourth up from the bottom. Burnt to a crisp :)
Review the scene closely, it's definitely him, the long-haired dude.
http://i.imgur.com/5132vl.jpg (http://imgur.com/5132v)
Also, 「惨劇」 Sangeki translates to tragedy,
meaning to say that almost all of 3-3 will be brought home in body bags.
I swear, I really want a stiff drink to calm down my nerves, but this home is a "dry country".
Class 3-3 at Episode 11:
http://i.imgur.com/VyLIzl.jpg (http://imgur.com/VyLIz)
Today: is your body ready for the Anotherpocalypse?
Im expecting unexplained scenario ending.
Welp, I guess that's end of our little Another Deathwatch Squad. It's been awesome. I think it'd be fitting for sa547 to finish the job, as he was the person who came up with the idea in the first place.
Thanks, and I'm gearing up to prepare the final chart.
What a body count, yet...
The survivors are really not sure if the phenomenon is over, so they put up an insurance policy in case the curse happens again... meaning to say, there's no definite solution to the problem.
FINAL TALLY (unless I'm wrong; you can send me a private message for corrections):
http://i.imgur.com/YidMTl.jpg (http://imgur.com/YidMT)
Note: not all members of Class 3-3 went to this fatal school trip.
FINAL STATISTICS - SCHOOL YEAR 1998
Dead: 28
Class Dead: 13
Wounded: 4 (including Misaki, small gash across cheek)
Class Survivors: 17
Adult Survivors: 2
Total Survivors: 19
ANOTHER: REIKO / MIKAMI
The survivors are really not sure if the phenomenon is over, so they put up an insurance policy in case the curse happens again... meaning to say, there's no definite solution to the problem.
It is over, but it will start over again with the next class. That is why they left the MD for future students.
Master Assassin
2012-03-27, 14:17
Hmm... so the basic gist I should be able to figure out from this series after it ended... eh...
Corresponding to the first occurence of the calamity, it seems that the power of belief is at fault, for being so powerful enough the laws of nature can't allow it to happen.
Law of Nature: "This person is dead. Time to move on..."
People: "No! She's not!"
LoN: "What?"
*Dead person exists again*
LoN: "Wait what? This is so against the rules! Must... do... something!"
*Calamity begins*
LoN: "Damn it! It's not this person either! WHERE'S THE DEAD ONE!?"
*Calamity continues*
*The Another dies*
LoN: "Whew, that does it. But damn, talk about collateral damage. Gotta thank that guy for the coup de grace though. I know! Let's make him forget everything, and everyone as well, so that they go on living a happy daily life!"
*Everyone forgets what happened.*
... Okay... so, uh, um, yeah. :uhoh: :heh:
... As if I'll just say "OK"! *burns up out of fuel made by sheer willpower*
White Manju Bun
2012-03-27, 16:40
FINAL TALLY (unless I'm wrong; you can send me a private message for corrections):
http://i.imgur.com/YidMTl.jpg (http://imgur.com/YidMT)
Note: not all members of Class 3-3 went to this fatal school trip.
FINAL STATISTICS - SCHOOL YEAR 1998
Dead: 28
Class Dead: 13
Wounded: 4 (including Misaki, small gash across cheek)
Class Survivors: 17
Adult Survivors: 2
Total Survivors: 19
ANOTHER: REIKO / MIKAMI
Wow I thought more people died :heh: nice job keeping track of the scoreboard :D
FINAL TALLY (unless I'm wrong; you can send me a private message for corrections):
http://i.imgur.com/YidMTl.jpg (http://imgur.com/YidMT)
Note: not all members of Class 3-3 went to this fatal school trip.
FINAL STATISTICS - SCHOOL YEAR 1998
Dead: 28
Class Dead: 13
Wounded: 4 (including Misaki, small gash across cheek)
Class Survivors: 17
Adult Survivors: 2
Total Survivors: 19
ANOTHER: REIKO / MIKAMI
Finally watched the finale episode. I was worried on all the work you would have to do looking how things were going to in the prev episode. Excellent work!! to Aphrah too :)
Thanks again, guys. :D Since we started putting up the board, it wasn't easy trying to track them all, as it took several replays and pauses to check and double-check, especially with the show being dimly-lit (making it hard to identify each of the characters, especially the hair color and style). There were also some mistakes and details I missed, but I'm glad there are those who pointed them out, so my great thanks to them, too.
Overall, despite that the show was as good as a teen slasher movie in the end, especially with the plot (lots of plot holes!) and characterization, and that it didn't explore other facets of the original novel (minor characters such as Kirika), and many other flubs, it shone out in other aspects such as the cinematic use of sound and music, and gorgeous background artwork.
The lesson that Another gave me is this: fear is the most powerful human emotion, and when combined with superstition, ignorance and mistaken beliefs, all that leads to tragic consequences.
About the scoreboard, saying "the Another assumed the identity of the deceased" is incorrect, because the Another is the deceased.
You can still use the line connecting Reiko and Mikami and relabel it as "same person".
^
Uh, there is a line linking both impostors. No need to elaborate any further as I've labelled it clearly.
http://i.imgur.com/XQQill.jpg (http://imgur.com/XQQil)
Thanks to Pellissier for spotting out the missing girl. Oh, well, it's done.
White Manju Bun
2012-03-28, 10:01
The lesson that Another gave me is this: fear is the most powerful human emotion, and when combined with superstition, ignorance and mistaken beliefs, all that leads to tragic consequences.
Throw in some mob-mentality and you have the perfect recipe for disaster :)
zeroburst
2012-03-28, 11:04
first post!
after watching the last episode and learning that Another has a sequel, i came up with a crazy theory
what if in the sequel, Kouchi found a way to time travel? That way he can go to the past to stop the curse once and for all. Also it could also explain why the killer who killed Reiko looks like Kouchi
^
Sounds like a good fanfic idea to me. :heh:
Guardian Enzo
2012-03-28, 11:55
Let's give him a phone that tells the future, too!
AC-Phoenix
2012-03-28, 18:18
first post!
after watching the last episode and learning that Another has a sequel, i came up with a crazy theory
what if in the sequel, Kouchi found a way to time travel? That way he can go to the past to stop the curse once and for all. Also it could also explain why the killer who killed Reiko looks like Kouchi
He only looks like Kouichi for a second, if you take a closer look you can clearly see that it was someone else.
zeroburst
2012-03-29, 03:17
^ yeah i noticed it too,
well this happens too me when i watch too many things related to time traveling :P
Soverence
2012-03-30, 23:50
time travel, kill the guy who was suppose to kill his aunt, go back to the present, no curse, happy days everyone goes and gets a burger at the nearest five guys and calls it a day.
Pellissier
2012-03-31, 05:25
time travel, kill the guy who was suppose to kill his aunt, go back to the present, no curse, happy days everyone goes and gets a burger at the nearest five guys and calls it a day.
Incorrect. Even if Reiko is saved, someone else would be resurrected in her place.
If you have a time machine, the smartest move would be to go straight back to 1972 and avoid former Misaki's death at all cost. That was the one event that triggered the whole chain, so it would be like cutting the phenomenon's deepest roots.
Sorry for bumping, but this must be news.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-8515.html#more
Lord of Fire
2012-04-01, 02:08
Sorry for bumping, but this must be news.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-8515.html#more
So, what does it say?
I think I should've put that blog entry through Google Translate and posted it at the generic discussions thread instead, but from what I could glean from the mangled translation, it's not about the DVD/BR releases but the director (during a Q&A session ACE2012) was trying to answer hard questions as to why he had Izumi Akazawa and some others killed.
Soverence
2012-04-01, 08:02
Incorrect. Even if Reiko is saved, someone else would be resurrected in her place.
If you have a time machine, the smartest move would be to go straight back to 1972 and avoid former Misaki's death at all cost. That was the one event that triggered the whole chain, so it would be like cutting the phenomenon's deepest roots.
I was speaking somewhat sarcastically, time travel rules depend really upon which series / people you listen to , so who knows what would actually happen, it is interesting to think about though.
I think I should've put that blog entry through Google Translate and posted it at the generic discussions thread instead, but from what I could glean from the mangled translation, it's not about the DVD/BR releases but the director (during a Q&A session ACE2012) was trying to answer hard questions as to why he had Izumi Akazawa and some others killed.
Its interesting to say the least, but I really don't know why he needed to do something like this. I think we were all ready for a decent number of the characters to die about half way through the series. Then again I can't read it and my google translate isn't working so I am just basing that upon him justifying killing people.
And why would he need to justify Izumi dying? I thought it was obvious like 3/4 of the way through from her personality and story that she was most likely going to die?
Anyway, the 2ch boys were pissed off at him for killing off perfectly good characters (and mangling them again after they're dead).
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http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/soulassassin547/0048/viptop08747.jpg
I think these are public acceptability results, or something like that.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-8540.html#more
SPARTAN 119
2012-04-09, 00:04
Incorrect. Even if Reiko is saved, someone else would be resurrected in her place.
If you have a time machine, the smartest move would be to go straight back to 1972 and avoid former Misaki's death at all cost. That was the one event that triggered the whole chain, so it would be like cutting the phenomenon's deepest roots.
Regardless, the whole thing could have been prevented by Akemi Homura, or perhaps.... HOOUIN KYOUMA!!!!!
SPARTAN 119
2012-04-09, 09:06
And not, for something more serious: Another (see what I did there) random crossover idea from the mind of 119
Another/Eternal Darkness Crossover, title pending, w/ summary:
An Alternate universe that diverges with Another in episode ten, when Sakakibara and Mei hear the full tape in the lodge. At that moment, the door bursts open to reveal Reiko Mikami, their assistant teacher with a pickaxe in hand. She starts blabbering something about Lovecraftian-esque entities that existed before mankind and something about the deaths of the students being to sustain the Guardians of Chattur'gha (http://eternaldarkness.wikia.com/wiki/Chattur%27gha). She then runs at Sakakibara with the pickaxe, only for him to pick up a chair and strike her over the head with it. Mikami falls to the floor, head wounded, only for a creature with a praying mantis-like stance and sharp, sword-like claws (http://eternaldarkness.wikia.com/wiki/Bonethief) to burst from her chest and lunge at Misaki, pinning her to the floor and trying the slash at her chest. Sakakibara grabs the pickaxe and puts in through the skull of the creature, killing it.
Sakakibara and Misaki escape the lodge, fighting through hordes of their own classmates, all of them possessed by these monsters or reanimated as zombies. Before they Sakakibara locks the monsters into the building and destroys the gas pipes in the stove in the kitchen, causing a gas leak. Sakakibara then makes a molotov with some gasoline in a shed next to the lodge and blows the place up. The two make their way back into Yomiyama, only to find most of the inhabitants dead or undead, and the town filled with monsters and zombies.
Sakakibara and Mei get a hold of some guns abandoned by a couple of fallen police officer and fight their way through town while trying to get to the bottom of what's going. Eventually, they find a mysterious book (http://eternaldarkness.wikia.com/wiki/Tome_of_Eternal_Darkness) that tells of a number of tales of people in various places and times that encountered similar events. The most notable are two people (not featured in the Eternal Darkness game), a samurai in 1585 who discovers as a network of mysterious ancient catacombs that seem to be some sort of temple. The catacombs, however, are filled with monsters and the living dead in the Yomiyama area, and attempts to destroy the source of evil, but fails in his attempt. Later, in 1946, a U.S. soldier in the occupation force discovers the same tomb, and manages to seal the guardians of Chatturgha in the temple until 1972, when the mysterious deaths started again. The location of this mysterious temple: right on top of Yomiyama North Middle School.
Ushio the Omega
2012-04-10, 14:02
Well this flopped even worse than I thought it would
Vol 1 first week sales 2,192
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1982409#post1982409
2nd week not listed with 415 threshold (only top 10 BD's listed)
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=109291&page=45
Lord of Fire
2012-04-11, 03:15
Well this flopped even worse than I thought it would
Vol 1 first week sales 2,192
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1982409#post1982409
2nd week not listed with 415 threshold (only top 10 BD's listed)
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=109291&page=45
I don't think it's that bad, given that this is a type of show that normally isn't all that popular in the first place.
A nicely written review, I think you may find it interesting: http://vs.yokatta.eu/exlusive-features/another-review/
Sir Maddy
2012-06-10, 21:00
I say, I really liked Another (it can make Higurashi look like child's play, gore wise)
I liked the creepiness in most of the episodes.
I liked it's character development.
Lightning_Wing
2012-06-16, 21:05
Regardless, the whole thing could have been prevented by Akemi Homura, or perhaps.... HOOUIN KYOUMA!!!!!
Hmmm but perhaps the events of Steins;Gate actually started the whole thing...;)
Cosmic Eagle
2012-07-19, 12:46
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