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Conversation Between 0utf0xZer0 and Triple_R
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  1. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-05-30 00:46
    0utf0xZer0
    Hey, I sometimes wish these threads would just die so I could let the matter go, so I can feel you there.

    I'm curious though... you mention you don't game much anymore, but do you game at all? If so, what platform?

    I'm pretty much exclusively PC myself and have been for years (though as I mentioned to Syn, there's a bit of PS3 stuff I'd love to own). My girlfriend, on the other hand, essentially plays VNs on PC and Pokemon on her DS.
  2. Triple_R
    2013-05-29 23:15
    Triple_R
    Just so you know, I've probably gotten a bit too emotional in the XBox One thread. I'm going to try to take a break from it. I just find what Microsoft is doing very distasteful, and wanted to vent a bit about it. I want to thank you for being relatively unemotional about things, since it did steer discussion in interesting ways at times.
  3. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-05-29 01:11
    0utf0xZer0
    One other weird thing that I wanted to put in my last post but didn't consider entirely on topic: I've had female moe fans tell me that they started as either a Pokemon fan or general video game fan with mild anime interest, and then transitioned into moe fans after finding promo art for To Heart 2 online and wondering what it was all about. On two separate occasions. Which wouldn't be so surprising if it weren't for both dropping the same name in a rather small sample size.

    On it's own it probably doesn't mean a lot, but combined with some other stories I've heard, I get the impression there's quite a few fans out their whose "origin stories" don't quite fit the norm.
  4. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-05-24 03:46
    0utf0xZer0
    Quote:
    1. The criticisms are largely valid. You have to admit a lot of this stuff is pretty dumb and highly repetitive. Even some fans of it admit that.
    Sure. But I tend to find reading stuff written by people who are venting tiring to read in general, even if it's an issue I care about.

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    2. You're probably more well-versed in the general geek fandoms than I am
    I find that highly questionable. I come from PC geek, occasional fanfic author background, not a general geek one. The only reason I consider myself to be a good source of information on what makes people anime fans is because Vancouver has a pretty good anime fan scene and I meet quite a few people at events, including newbies.

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    but in my limited experience with them, this sort of content really is what's holding anime back a bit amongst North American general geek fadoms. To comic book fans who debate over Power Girl's "Boob Hole" on her costume, a lot of this Ecchi material is just way too much. It does make them more reserved about giving anime in general a chance.
    Where do people outside the fandom get exposed to this kind of content, let alone come to believe it's typical of anime?

    I'm just surprised because in my experience, comments I hear about too much ecchi, or moe, or whatever in anime tends to come from more experienced fans, not newbies.

    I also have axes to grind with a lot of "think of the mainstream" types over their tendency to trash shows that I honestly think don't deserve it. Example: the anime that got me into anime, Moon Phase, occasionally gets called "lolicon trash" or some such. Never mind that the show is fairly tame and that I've had pretty good experiences screening it to less experienced fans.


    P.S. since we're talking about darn good shows that have bits of questionable content in them, have you seen any of Dansai Bunri no Crime Edge? Don't listen to Reckoner, it's good.

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    There was a time in my life when I myself was in the mood for it every now and then.
    I'd go so far as to say that some of the milder ecchi titles can be good gateway shows. I went through a bit of a "harem phase" in my first year of being an anime fan, with Love Hina and Shuffle, which have their share of service, and I know I'm not the only one. Then I discovered Kanon 2006 and decided I found moe harem more interesting than its ecchi counterpart and it all kind of snowballed from there.
  5. Triple_R
    2013-05-23 09:20
    Triple_R
    Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

    As for "rants against the usual whipping boys", well here's the thing:

    1. The criticisms are largely valid. You have to admit a lot of this stuff is pretty dumb and highly repetitive. Even some fans of it admit that.

    2. You're probably more well-versed in the general geek fandoms than I am, but in my limited experience with them, this sort of content really is what's holding anime back a bit amongst North American general geek fadoms. To comic book fans who debate over Power Girl's "Boob Hole" on her costume, a lot of this Ecchi material is just way too much. It does make them more reserved about giving anime in general a chance.


    Now, speaking personally, I gave up on anime going mainstream in the west about a year or two ago. For that reason, I now find this stuff pretty easy to ignore (you'll probably notice I've had very little to say on To Love-Ru or Queen's Blade). My view is that "Anime isn't going to go mainstream in the west anyway, so we might as well let the ecchi fans enjoy their shows in peace". I mainly commented on that Ecchi thread because I wanted to head off the common misconception that if you dislike Ecchi it's because you're a prude. To be fair, I also realize that many smart and decent people can and do like ecchi. There was a time in my life when I myself was in the mood for it every now and then.
  6. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-05-22 21:42
    0utf0xZer0
    No. I actually changed the wording there though it's probably still possible to draw that inference.

    That said, I've been part of most of the "nerd communities" I'm part of for so long that I find rants against the usual whipping boys get tiring after a while. It's like "guys, I've been hearing about this for 7-10 years now, make peace with it already".

    (Tangent: speaking of being around geek communities a while... I'm not sure which is more disconcerning for me, realizing that I'm closer to 30 than 20 or that games like Half Life and C&C: Red Alert are now 15+ years old. Though at least I'm used to thinking of those as older games, unlike, say Far Cry (2004).
  7. Triple_R
    2013-05-22 21:02
    Triple_R
    Do you really think that those who don't like ecchi are annoying elitists?
  8. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-05-01 03:21
    0utf0xZer0
    I'd be more inclined to say it was a nice trip if I weren't fairly sure both trips are work related. He's actually local has been around much this year.

    Little Witch Academia and Wolf Children were the high points of the night for me. Wolf Children sort of distills a lot of what I liked about Hyouka - the "doing character development in a low key fashion" stuff - and then puts it into meatier (thematically) two hour movie about being different.

    I adore the way LWA combined cute girls and "gainax spectacle" (Trigger is mainly ex-Gainax employees in case you didn't know)in one work. Enough said.

    Okay, not quite. My friend noted that LWA seems to borrow a lot from Mahou Shoujo Tai Arusu - to the point of pretty much frame by frame homaging a scene. Personally I enjoyed LWA more than MSTA… though I do feel that LWA had an easier job to do here because they had do one OVA and hence didn't really have to hold anything back.

    Death Billiards was also great. I generally have mixed luck with the "awesome death game" genre (things like Akagi, Kaiji, etc. - I have friends who love them), but limiting it to one OVA and putting some effort into character backstory really helped this out. Still not quite my thing though.

    EVA 3.33… it's been a while since I saw 2.22, but this felt like it had a lot more character development and, uh… angst. My friend , who loves the original and has hated Rebuild so far (both movies, not just 2.22 like Reckoner does IIRC) thought it was a move in the right direction and from the perspective of being an "Eva" movie he's probably right - but as someone who hasn't been as big an EVA fan, I found it far less fun than 2.22. Also, the film has a lot of WTF moments - not in terms of the mindscrew stuff since I'm familiar with the TV series and kind of get that now, but in terms of having a ton of stuff changed since 2.22 that's only gradually explained. I'm curious as to whether this was done to throw the audience out of "comfortable, familiar territory" and hence put them into a position closer to Shinji's - and I'm also curious whether they just did it to troll the audience.

    Also: remember Touji talking about his sister? She grows up to be cute.

    (Side note: we watched on my dad's 50 inch plasma TV. However, unlike Rebuild 1 and 2, 3 is 2.35:1 widescreen rather than the usual 1.85:1 of regular anime movies and 1.78:1 of TV anime… I think watching it in between regular TV anime made the experience less epic just because of the smaller picture.

    I think Muromi-san benefits from only having 12 minute episodes - normally I'm not much of a gag anime fan but I can enjoy them in short bursts. Crazy OP too.

    This was actually my second attempt at Aku no Hana - it's not really the best "break from exams" show. I'm actually curious to see where it goes. I don't have a strong opinion on the intentionally "uncanny valley" (IMO) art other than I think it actually benefits somewhat from the big screen experience.

    I don't think RDG is a great show, but I happen to like it a lot anyway. Not sure if this or Crime Edge will end up being my favourite "supernatural show with a cute girl" of the season - Crime Edge had a really strong third episode and a really cute female lead, but RDG feels like a slightly warmer show despite having a much colder male lead. Odd.

    Hataraku-Maou Sama had a pretty hilarious start but I feel like it's sliding too much towards conventional harem territory. Will see if it manages to live up to its start.

    Gargantia is pretty great, and I think I like it more than Valvrave's "This is your Code Geass on Bombast" approach though that's actually kind of fun too. The world and Ledo's interaction with it is the main draw - the action scenes haven't felt dangerous enough to be gripping though I'm not sure they could have really done it any differently given how powerful Ledo's unit is.
  9. Triple_R
    2013-04-30 20:43
    Triple_R
    Nice! Sounds like a great trip.

    So which anime impressed you the most? What did you think of most of them? I've seen LWA, Aku no Hana, Gargantia, and RDG myself.
  10. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-04-30 20:34
    0utf0xZer0
    So an anime buddy dropped by between a trip to California and a trip to Toronto last night. Seeing as how he was fine with "sleeping on the plane", we watched: Hataraku Maou-sama 1-2, Death Billiards, Little Witch Academia, Namiuchigawa no Muromi-san 1, Evangelion 3.33, Aku no Hana 1-2, Suisei no Gargantia 1-2, and Wolf Children. Oh, and then we reviewed my Sakuracon photos and talked camera gear until 4AM. I feel accomplished, even though we didn't get to Red Data Girl 3-4 as I'd intended (watched them when I finally got up today).

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