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Conversation Between Demi. and Akiyoshi
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  1. Demi.
    2013-03-23 15:40
    Demi.
    Wait, you didn't watch the movie yet? :|
  2. Akiyoshi
    2013-03-23 15:33
    Akiyoshi
    Anyway, i finally got a version of the movie monutes ago so i'll watching so i can make more elaborated arguments xD
  3. Demi.
    2013-03-23 15:30
    Demi.
    Well if you want to blame Signums lack of fighting on anything, blame it on the fact Fate didn't get much fighting, either. Vita got plenty because she was paired against Nanoha, who got a large portion of the fight scene. The fight scenes were so short, Fate just never got to use Sonic form on Signum.

    Like I said, the book reacted to Vita, not Signum. :3

    The movie was actually very character driven, as composed to action driven. In my opinion.
  4. Akiyoshi
    2013-03-23 15:23
    Akiyoshi
    To elaborate, when they finally got their upgrades the typical shonen answer will be to have the heroes mop the floor with the villains now but TV A's subverted that wonderfully by presenting the Wolks as being very hard-to-beat adversaries even after the cartridge upgrade. It goes to the point everyone crap their pants when Signum entered the field deployed by the TSAB by force on their 2nd encounter ...and Fate also even goes to the lenghts of using a 2nd upgrade just to keep up with the Blazing General.

    In the movie, they got cartridges and suddenly the Book goes "oh noes, the Wolkenritter is so helpless i'm going to absorb their cores".

    I mean come on -_-
  5. Demi.
    2013-03-23 15:18
    Demi.
    Vita smashing Nanohas face into concrete, and Signum knocking the wind out of Fate after she goes flying through buildings doesn't get that point across? When they had their upgrades the fights were far more evenly matches, but Signum or Vita never technically won at that point in the series, either.

    Also, you have to admit Vita was fighting a losing battle in the series as well, after Nanoha got her upgrade. They just presented it differently, so that the book activated once Vita was about to lose. It didn't activate because of Signum.
  6. Akiyoshi
    2013-03-23 15:13
    Akiyoshi
    Having the Book deeming them weak and absorbing their cores is not what i'd call "better presented" xDU

    The Knights are supossedly be overall stronger than the Aces during A's and most of the coming years until StrikerS. They were holding back a LOT during the Book of Darkness incident. As proof, during StrikerS with little to no upgrades they're able to keep with the heavily upgraded Nanoha and Fate just fine.
  7. Demi.
    2013-03-23 15:10
    Demi.
    Yeah but those are all marginal screentime saps. A couple minutes, at most. Though which freak out during the final fight?

    I thought the knights were presented better in the movie, then the series. Don't know why you think otherwise.

    Even so, those scenes did little to dampen the development of Hayate and Reinforce. Reinforce had far, FAR more screentime in the movie, compared to the series. And Hayate had a little more development as well.
  8. Akiyoshi
    2013-03-23 15:00
    Akiyoshi
    She also has her big freak out moments in the first and last fights, and they moved her rescue scene to the final fight (i still think it worked better in the series when Nanoha called her name and Fate appeared, that's one of Fate's most awesome moments in the series, the fact she nearly defeats Vita on their first encounter just enhaces the awesomeness of that moment).

    Okay you can have lindy chatting with her but her Lotus Eater Machine was something that could be removed from the movie without much trouble so we can have mroe of the knights. They are horribly shafted from StrikerS onwards so at least they deserved to have some good fleshing and developement within their own freaking movie ToT
  9. Demi.
    2013-03-23 14:41
    Demi.
    The last 50 minutes of the movie was almost all Reinforce/Hayate development though. Also I didn't think the wolkenritter lost much screentime at all...

    Let me ask this, if you removed the dream scene and her chat with lindy, then what would be left? She'd be a character who only fights yet has considerably less action time than Nanoha.
  10. Akiyoshi
    2013-03-23 14:35
    Akiyoshi
    TBH i was perfectly okay with Fate's scenes and expanded role in MOVIE 1st, after all, Season One is more about Fate's story than anything else. She was the main heroic antagonist in despair adn she had troubles to overcome that has to do with the main plot so it's perfectly udnerstandable the MOVIE wanted to expand on her.

    But here is A's what we're talking about this is supossed to be Hayate and The Wolkenritter's story, yet the Wolks were kicked almost to satellite character status so the plot can focus more on Fate and her interaction with the world xDU Some developement for her is nice but when you take a good chunk of the plot focused on a character that has little to do with the main conflict there's when i noted the tendency to forget characters and plot developement to cash on a fan favourite character xDU

    So i'm wondering now what new ways they could find in a StrikerS movie to pull off another Fate-Hijacking on the plot.

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