The LN/anime comparisons are fair, just unfortunately timed as they exasperate what was already annoying me about the discussion.
Edit: BTW, at this point, I'd like to wrap up my involvement with this discussion rather quickly. I'm hitting the point in the semester where I'm needing to devote more time to studies and I'm finding all this too tiring (though I still want your opinion on the petite list LOL).
Don't worry, I'm going to sleep on your post. It's worth reflecting on.
I'll be honest - More than anything, I'm just pissed that KyoAni felt it was necessary to change Mirai the way they did. I feel like certain tropes and character elements are getting overplayed in anime lately, to the relative exclusion of others. Anyway, I'll leave it at that for now.
I wasn't just going after the anime v. LN criticism there. The thread just kind of feels like the "let's dogpile on Mirai!" thread in general. The rest I'll let my post explain.
Ugh, I really should have just quit the thread rather make that kind of "rage against the general tenor of the discussion" post. I'm too tired to be letting myself get dragged into this kind of thing these days.
Do you really not get why anime Mirai is taking a lot of heat? It's because LN Mirai sounds way better to most of us!
There hasn't been a major KyoAni female character quite like Yuki Nagato since, well, Yuki Nagato herself. Some of us would prefer a character like that over yet another shy, timid, wants to be decisive but struggling with it girl. You do realize just how commonplace Mirai's character type is in anime right?
Yuki Nagato's character type is significantly rarer. That's probably part of the reason why characters like Yuki Nagato (Kanade, Eu, etc...) and Yuki Nagato herself tend to kick ass so much in moe competitions.
I suppose I at least have a shot at getting into Madoka 3 - you guys in Atlantic Canada never seem to have much luck with these things. I'm wondering if it's a case of different theatre ownership - looking at the list of theatres it'll be playing in Canada, most if not all of them are owned by Cineplex.
I think the clearest way to illustrate how this is a petite girl dominanted season for me is to look at the shows where my favourite character is petite versus those where she isn't:
Petite girl wins:
Galilei Donna: Eight words: Hozuki's "please don't make me shoot" puppy eyes
Golden Time: Chinami was on my "cute" list even before the show started airing
Non Non Biyori: Komari-senpai
Unbreakable Machine Doll: Yaya's character design unusually striking.
Outbreak Company: Muriel - depending on whether you think she's a "petite" or "medium" option within the show itself.
Kanata no Kyoukai: Ai is adorable, as a fan of timid girls I actually like Mirai a lot and she's on the small side
While Golden Time's Linda is intriguing and KnK's Mitsuki really is a looker in glasses, most of these victories are pretty clear cut too.
Contrast the cases where my favourite isn't the petite girl:
Infinite Stratos 2: Charlotte obviously wins here, and I've never been nearly as much a fan of the loli-est of the bunch (Laura) as some are. Though Rin is petite and probably my second favourite. This one would probably be a more meaningful victory if the second season was leaving much of an impression though.
Little Busters Refrain: This one has been leaving a much stronger impression than IS2 and Kurugaya has clearly eclipsed all others so far. That said, I could see Rin making a comeback here (my S1 favourites were Kurugaya, Kud, and Rin).
Tokyo Ravens: Suzuka is actually a little bit annoying, so this one goes to Hokuto and especially Natsume.
Strike the Blood: Err… I support lead hero X lead heroine route instead of the incest route? Bit of a weak victory.
A few other shows like I'm watching like Kill la Kill, Samurai Flamenco and Coppellion don't have an impact either way.
I mainly just dislike anime's tendency to reveal absolutely critical information about its characters just as they're dying. This includes everything from the massive sob story for otherwise villainous characters to the show basically saying "So you thought she was just a normal human girl? Well, think again!"
I just find this approach kind of cheap and overused. If I knew from Episode 1 that Hokuto wasn't a normal human girl, I'd probably have been totally fine with her character and death scene. Although, I will admit that lingering Red Data Girl confusion also raises red flags for me when we get fake supernatural-based humans in other anime shows. I never did get a handle on the Souda siblings...
All of that being said, I agree with you on the romantic flashback. That really was great.
And yeah, good point on Natsume. A perfect star drawn with her own blood applied with her tongue... that's really amazing, lol.
I'm curious to know who are the petite girls you're liking this Fall 2013 season? There's probably at least a few we both like.
Thanks for the info on Madoka Magica! Here's hoping you get to attend the movie when it launches in BC.
I sort of agree with you on why the twist with Hokuto was a bad idea - but I think the romantic flashback they follow it up with restores a lot of the impact.
The real question I have is who created her as the impression as the flashback implies Harutora met rather than creating her. Makes me wonder what her "master" thought of her rush.
Also, Natsume seems to be rather... "dexterous" with her tongue.
I'll just say she has a lot of counterbalancing to do this season. There's usually a few petite girls I'm into each season but right now they seem to cropping up all over the place.
Aniplex of America has announced that Madoka 3 will be playing the same four Vancouver area theaters as the first two... but hasn't said what the date will be. The US screenings for Madoka 3 are slated for December, so I'm really hoping they don't pick a day that conflicts with my exams. Unlike in the US, all Madoka 1 and 2 theatrical screenings in Canada occurred on the same day and I wouldn't be surprised to see the same here given that it's the same theatre chain involved.
I agree with you on how Arpeggio making a lot (all?) of the fog-ships have moe girl representations was a bad call. That last scene in Episode 1 did seem needlessly pandering to me, and yeah, it makes Iona seem much less special.
I also liked GD's final scene because the show has this certain high-tech absurdity to it anyway. It felt less "out of left field" than what we saw in Arpeggio and Tokyo Ravens, imo.
You know, I feel kind of inconsistent for saying it for docking marks from Arpeggio and Tokyo Ravens (the latter of which I actually like a lot) for what I thought to be the ridiculousness of their final scenes, but Galilei Donna's first episode was a riot.
And on a completely different topic: I final got around to seeing Star Trek VI recently... and for all the Into Darkness/Star Trek II comparisons, I kind of feel like Into Darkness is like a contemporary update of Star Trek VI. Not sure if you've seen both, but if you have I'd be interested in your opinion on it.
I really like the characterization in Tokyo Ravens episode 1. I had to dock a couple marks for the final action scene though - the combination of mechanization and spirit powers was actually pretty cool but the execution of it in that scene just seemed excessive and needlessly elaborate/complicated to the point where it actually broke suspension of disbelief a bit. It actually bothered me more than the high gloss late-90s looking CG.
That said, I still have to say I'm very positive on the show. This wasn't like Arpeggio's last scene, which knocked away a lot of my interest - I liked Arpeggio better when I assumed that Iona taking human form was something unique.
Two minor notes:
1) Is it just me, or is Natsume's dress actually pretty revealing under strong sunlight?
2) KanaHana playing a miko? Between that and Gingitsune, this season seems to be catering to that particular taste of mine a fair bit.