Christ...you and RF look set to kill each other...mate, you need to avoid those pointless arguments. We're talking about modern anime's most blindly loyal (insert preferred term) here. What good is there in arguing with him? Or the other loyalists and trolls in that thread or other ones?
I think you've reached a point I did a few years ago. R3 - you need to stop caring about what everyone else likes and says. It doesn't matter what they like or whether they do or don't like what you do. If you're going to keep bringing up topics like that in a community which is positivist-biased and reactive rather than open-minded, you're going to make a lot of enemies around here. And it isn't worth it. Take it from someone who's been around that block.
You're an open-minded person and you like to talk about things in depth. Here's 21 Reasons, 88 Club and 99 Problems, R3. Most anime fans don't give a damn. They are very simple fuckers. They only care a lot of them care about how effing cute the chick is, how high the body count is, how yaoi-potential the guy is, etc. Trust me, I've been trying to get along with anime fans locally and in other places for years. Most of them are scum and would sooner kill you than talk with you. And just for the record, Suki is positivist but AniDB is utterly negativist and anti-modern for an example. Trust me, Mappy has shown me how utterly toxic and hateful of anything that place is. And ANN - well let's not go there. The less said about that basketcase, the better.
I think you and I need to talk more often since you seem to be getting into toxic conversations too much lately and it's doing you any good. SKype, FB? Something. You sound like you need to talk to someone that will listen and respect your opinion politely and stick with you, regardless of whether they agree with you or not. I've stuck with my 45 year old friend Mappy for close to a decade because that's the friendship we have. Similar deal with a few early 20s people I know. You sound like you're about to implode and develop a real hatred of certain people/groups. Probably justified but hate ain't worth it. Let the scrubs be and do it your own way. You don't need a few dozen or hundred people to agree with or discuss with openly. A few is enough.
R3 - please avoid rising to their bait. Clowns like RF, Westlo and TinyRedLeaf will do everything in their power to make you an outcast and warp your points to their benefit and make them look like the good guy. You're one of the better people around here and always have been. And if the newfags drive you out of here too - well this place really has gone to hell.
In terms of creating a story, I don't dispute his talent. In terms of creating the types of characters and events required for a grim, dark tale such as Fate/Zero, I don't dispute that. I dispute his ability to create interesting characters - I find his quite dull, juvenile, predictable and repetitive. And his distaste for dialogue mixed with his obsession with narration makes for some rather difficult conversions from literature to anime. When he goes too far with narration, you end up with a marathon overload info dump like Episode 1, or you miss out on facts or detail in the final lot of episodes.
Okada....heh...I don't know who scares me more - her or Urobuchi. I don't think I'll ever understand her. She creeps me out big time but for very different reasons than how Urobuchi does.
But I'm fine. I'm over F/Z. I've recommenced watching Le Chevalier D'Eon (can't get in the mood for Sword Art Online) and it's doing a grim, dark tale in a more entertaining and better written way that F/Z from my perspective.
It's been okay. Aside from the fireworks spam and consecutive days over 40 degrees (Friday was 45 degrees). Saturday was the first time I went outside for more than five minutes since Tuesday.