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Conversation Between Rising Dragon and Akiyoshi
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  1. Rising Dragon
    2012-02-06 15:54
    Rising Dragon
    The brains were secret in the canon--very few people knew of their existence. Officially, the Three Admirals are the leadership of the TSAB--the brains were the "men behind the man", so to speak.

    As for Vita and Leti, they were utilizing a law that the same brains had come up with, as Leti told her. Hoist by their own petard.
  2. Akiyoshi
    2012-02-06 05:15
    Akiyoshi
    The last chapter of BTF is pretty decent, i also hated those brains in jars for quite the long time but, aren't they supposed to be the highest ranked officials in all of the TSAB? I found strange Vita managed to kill them in front of Admiral Letti withouth any risk of detention or commeupance xDU

    Still ejoyed the scene, those a-holes deserved to be squashed xD
  3. Akiyoshi
    2012-01-24 21:54
    Akiyoshi
    If Signum is stupid enough to fall for that she deserves to be killed. I think a skilled swordswoman can see such a lame trick a mile away xDU.

    When we get to see Arnage actually obliterating a Battleship by herself then we can comment on that. If anything she can anhilate a small town like we see when she and Veyron faced Marty and Dego and there's also chance of subduing her for the trio taking into consideration that we also know that Arnage is not good at cross range(totally owned by Marty with mere punches, he didn't even make her bleed and still was totally at his mercy), difficult? yes, high-risked? absolutely, impossible? i don't think so.

    Aside of the discussion Arnage seems to be the less effective of the hucks despite having the bigger guns among them.

    About Cypha VS. Fate, i just wish luck to Cypha trying to outrun Fate when she wasn't even able to match Signum's speed, even Deville twiched an eye at the black lightning xD!
  4. Rising Dragon
    2012-01-24 15:15
    Rising Dragon
    All Cypha has to do is make Signum attempt to parry one of her attacks, and then get her body in the way of the parry, so she hits Cypha instead of her Divider. It's a fairly easy thing to do--that's the whole point of a feint; to trick someone to do something they shouldn't.

    Arnage has firepower capable of obliterating a battleship--that was Fortis' main worry in Arnage and Deville participating in the battle against the intruding Bureau personnel on the Esquad Huckebein--that they'd destroy the ship in the process. Teana, Signum, and Agito, without the ability to subdue or kill their opponents, have no way of fighting an opponent like Arnage. There is simply no way for them to win against them at that point. Failure was inevitable.

    And now you're just overestimating Fate's capabilities. Even if Fate can hold herself against one of the Huckebein, all they need to do is disengage and go to the town and start massacring people. Cypha had the advantage through and through. If you're going to keep on like this, there's no point in continuing this discussion.
  5. Akiyoshi
    2012-01-24 15:06
    Akiyoshi
    You can't guarantee that, Cypha "making" Signum hit her again i don't think Signum would be stupid enough to fall for Cypha's gloating after seeing what resulted from her first attempt.

    Even if Arnage reacts that doesen't mean she's automatically invincible and even if Signum is too reckles or hot headed to think clearly, Teana isn't and probably she'll device a good strategy to keep the Machine-gunned red-head busy. Agito's fire can be cancelled but not her explosions as the fight with Tohma shows sho the little fiery unison now have a weapon to use that if it can't outright defeat Arnage at lest will be plenty usefull in reducing her combat capability by being pressed in the need to dodge or defend herself as also having her aim obstaculized. Teana would suggest Signum and Agito to remain de-unisoned to provide Arnage with multiple targets to hit and thus make her work more difficult. Also, even if Arnage can cause far more damage, i wonder if she's willing to do it with very valuable targets around. Again, if Isis joins the battle, Arnage will be screwed because her aiming will be totally scrambled allowing the aformentioned trio chances to escape or even devise a counter attack.

    By the way, i think upgrade Fate is more than enough match for both Cypha and Arnage, swordfighting doesn't team up well with crazy machine guns after all xDU. They can't negate her magic which mean they'll be suited as targets for Fate to open a can of whoopass on them with the vast arsenal of lightning spells at her dispossal xD
  6. Rising Dragon
    2012-01-24 14:00
    Rising Dragon
    If Cypha can take out Laevatein just by letting it hit her twice, then a second blade isn't going to fare much better. Remember, weapons are pointless if they can't be used to subdue or kill an opponent. All Cypha needs to do to break it is make Signum hit her again... just like she did when Laevatein was shattered in the first place. As for Arnage, she's able to React as well--of all of the Huckebein, the only one who doesn't have a Reactor is Veyron. So if Arnage finds herself in a three-on-one against Signum, Agito and Teanam (which is really just a two-on-one due to the Unison), she just needs to React and suddenly, she's invincible! And Signum becomes just as screwed, if not killed outright--Arnage is implied to cause far more damage than Cypha in battle. Even if Signum got away from Cypha, it would only end in failure.

    Because once they're out of the way, quite suddenly Fate's now two-on-one against two Reacted Huckebein members, neither of whom really like the Bureau all that much. She's dead too.

    BTW, concerning your remark about Cinque vs. Signum in BTF, reading back on it, the reason why Signum's blade did little against Cinque is because she wasn't trying to slash her, she was trying to hit her with the flat of the blade in an attempt to knock her out. Cinque only got cut because she grabbed the blade to stop it and blow it to pieces.
  7. Akiyoshi
    2012-01-24 13:50
    Akiyoshi
    Yep, and Agito didn't have any chance to figure out how to make her strategy since she got blasted by Cypha after Signum kicked the bucket. Withoput signum doing that Agito will be fine and well to assist their master into not getting slaughtered xD. there's no proff that Cypha can destroye the second sword in one hit like you make it to appear, i'll buy that she will probably be invulnerable to it but as we see her swordfight skills pale in comparission to signum's so as long as Signum have a realiable tool to parry Cypha she'll be able to hold her off until Fate comes to her rescue. Arnage only managed to take care of Tohma because she took the chance to approach him with her sleep gas before the boy starts moving. With Agito and Teana around such chance will be lost, Signum will probably join them since probably she sees herself as a burden to Fate in her fight with Cypha. Sure, Arnage have the advantage of a Divider but now will be challenged with three moving targets and the rise of a mindless EC-Juggernaut. If the fight goes long enough Isis will awake and then Arnage will truly be in trouble.

    Cypha was only indestructible to Signum at the time but not to Fate. So if Signum avoid going for Cypha's bones(you know, the thing that actually destroyed Laevatein on first place) she at least be able to hold her back, she didn't even need to "win". Cypha won more likely because Signum didn't have a relaible sword to fight with.
  8. Rising Dragon
    2012-01-24 13:37
    Rising Dragon
    The Huckebein were in no way threatened by Touma: hell, Arnage subdued him without any trouble in record time, something the others would not have been able to do. And let's not forget that Cypha was holding the entire nearby population hostage--she outright told Signum if she didn't back off and let her take Touma, she was going to nuke the town. And Agito? Reading back through the chapter, Agito didn't do squat to Cypha. She eliminated all of the attacks she left for Signum, then neutralized the both of them, leaving Agito hanging from a tree branch.

    Regardless of where Laevatein struck, Signum was not going to win that match or even delay Cypha, dual swords or no. She was pretty much invincible by that point, and all she had to do was feint against Signum to break her weaponry. Extra weaponry is useless when your opponent can't be hurt.
  9. Akiyoshi
    2012-01-24 13:27
    Akiyoshi
    We don't know that for sure. Laevatein was destroyed easily by Cypha's elbow, not her Divider, the divider only cut some already crushed remanants of the blade(and as we've seen in Ch. 20, a good condition Laevatein can do just fine against a reacted Divider xD). As we see, Agito already found a way to work around Eclipse-powered attacks, so it's not impossible for the two(three if we count Teana) to distract Arnage(Laevatein's hilt is still complete so at the very least Signum will be able to cast subpar fire spells). Cypha will be too busy with Fate and everyone will be threatened by the increasing menace of Tohma probably forcing the Hucks to retreat or form an "Enemy mine" situation of sorts.

    Thanks for the Megah's explanation, now i can imagine the things better when reading the fights against those xD
  10. Rising Dragon
    2012-01-24 13:03
    Rising Dragon
    I'm not underestimating Laevatein. But the Device is not indestructible--once Cypha Reacted, there was little Signum and Agito could've done. Laevatein was destroyed fairly easily against the Divider, and if it could outright destroy it, then if it was in perfect condition it still would've sustained heavy damage. A second Device would've drawn out the battle a bit more, but not by much. And even if those two + Teana had to deal with Touma, you're forgetting that they'd run right into Arnage, and then they'd be really screwed. The only way Signum could've come out of that battle unhurt is if she'd relinquished to Cypha's request and retreated--but that's not in Signum's character, so it was inevitable that it resulted in Signum's near-death experience.

    No, he's quite specific that they're Type Is, and the AMS they gain from the Type Is is a side-effect of their linking to a Megah. My guess is that the four AMFs they produce are all concentrated onto a single spot and the Megah just strengthens it into a shield of sorts. The other advantage of the Megah is that they're capable of learning on the fly and forming strategies to deal with enemies, unlike the Gadget Drones. Type-IIIs are simply too big to bind to a Megah and keep it effective--Megahs are only 10 feet tall.

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