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, Really nice photos. I as a late addition to the AS manpower I didn't come across that thread myself yet. Good link. Thanks.
, Is there split-prism viewfinders available for Olympus by any chance? Nowadays considered quite historic piece of kit but I like using it. As a bit of a minus it works only centered so focus panning is quite often necessary. I have one in my AE-1 and I've been trying to find ones for my EOS bodies as well. It will mess up my auto-focus indicators though but that's a minor moan compared to the hell that manual focusing is now...
hi there ,dear sir photographers ^^
i am(just myself) thinking of an idea of union the two group,drawing group with photograph's group together "resources hunt?" and looking forward to make a positive change to grow both of the groups
i can think of drawingartist can have direct benifit from looking at you guys photo
but i coundn't think of any reason of and benifit of photographer to helping us
do you think this is a "yes","no","to be discuss"or ,"maybe",or "shut up"?
Artists do have something to offer photographers, actually. Artists are working with a theoretically unlimited canvas, unconstrained by reality. Thus you're able to draw anything and from any vantage point. There's a lot to photography, but one of the most important elements is what angle you capture your subject at. Looking at various paintings and drawings can help a photographer to realize what a good vantage point for certain subjects could be.
Of course, we're limited in what angles we can achieve... but you get the picture.
On a different note, my macro lens came in today. It's a Zuiko Digital 50mm prime f2.0 lens, and it comes from Olympus' "high end" line of lens. As such, it's weather-sealed and looks much more professional than the other lenses on the outside. It's fast to focus and from my initial images, I can confirm what the internet says: this lens is razor-sharp. That wide aperture means it'll be my choice lens for dark areas, and it means I'll need to refresh myself on how aperture control impacts pictures (for bokeh and such).
I bought it in a bundle with an extension tube, which will let me do 1x magnification with it. Wow, macro photography with this thing is insane in terms of what you can capture, but it's also insanely difficult. With every lens I've used thus far, you can only be too close to focus - you can always focus to infinity. Not with the extension tube equipped - you can actually be too far away! Worse, when you're working at that level the slightest difference in distance between the lens and the object results in an out of focus blur. I tried to capture a dandelion, and there was a slight breeze - it was hellishly difficult.
With this 50mm lens I need to be about 2-3 inches (roughly 5-8 cm) away from the photo subject, which adds another level of difficulty. My cat didn't appreciate having the camera shoved in her face, and I was a bit afraid of angering a nearby wasp by going that close. Olympus supposedly has a 100mm macro lens on its roadmap; Sigma has 105mm f2.8 and 150mm macro lenses capable of 1x magnification available for multiple camera systems, and people have claimed that they can get some nice macro while being 7 inches (17 cm) away from the subject, with the added benefit that the 105mm doubles as a telephoto lens. I went with the 50mm because it's faster and I can get more out of it than I would be able to do with a 105mm prime. If I really get into macro photography I'll consider a lens with longer range, but for now I consider this a great learning experience. If you want to see some incredible examples of macro photography, check out this guy:
Figured I'd add some shots up from yesterday's first efforts with the macro lens. I haven't yet uploaded these to my image thread, but if you'd like to see some of those macro shots in greater detail, please check it out when I do. I've done some heavy cropping on some of them (the firebug one particularly) but the ant one still has more detail that you'd be able to see if you were able to zoom in on the original.
It's incredibly difficult and having to crop to show detail is a bit disappointing (I'd always thought that we could fill the frame with the bug, but the smallest bugs still fill barely any of the frame), but I think it's awesome and am loving it anyway.
i need to wait until more of you have the yes,no permission before i can set my attiute
by the way
the lady model of mikoo's are useful of manga artist(humans are the first thing we consitder to draw,but model are alway a money-matter init so no one can take a photo from street of us[some law forbidden this action])
second love are "perspective" of enivorment and builde(life-drawing) learn "space" and angle
which i like escimo's and TinyRedLeaf
Ledgem's micros can be a bit difficult to pick up by some of us(maybe is just me?)
looking forward to see a forward action from ...
I'm not completely sure what you mean by union of the two groups. To raise awareness of other arts than sig making in Fan Creations my answer is yes. However apart from
's figure photos the photographs published have quite little to do with anime or manga. So in a way photographers are a bit of oddballs in FC. If someone finds my photos useful in either drawing or sig-making I'm glad and all my photos are free to use in every way anyone may find them useful. Though I'd like to be informed first so drop me a PM what do you want to use and how. I just got the impression in the closed Fan-arts subforum thread that you wanted to raise some clear antithesis between graphic and drawing artists and I'm against that. I don't see how splitting up the community will help anything. So even as the Fan Creations can prove a difficult place for those out of the sig-making norm I really want no part in ganging up against the "evil graphic artists".
I do think that both of the groups can benefit from the works of the other but I'd rather not make it political.
So I'd like you to specify a bit what this union would include.
XD...don't worry that artist can used an image (as long as they are not refuse to do something)
as long as the have respect to an object etc
talking of object,there are catgirl,fox,girl,computer girl,object-gril ,mecha, BL,GL ,wolf(depends on the artist interest,we mess with most of the thing to make our own character)
i am sure ,ant- and bugs and animal are not a problem as long as "we have enought skill" and we understand the photograph and Photographer enought^^
ps,fashion need lots of colour to learn
but i am worry that talkng permission too much in here will mess up the Photographers United,still,i need to innotice all of you than i am planning on something,so i am thinking of that we have two level of permission
if we have a beforehand general permission of yes or no to aviod we using someone's photo which some of hate to happen
and using PM for the "in depth permission"^^
Hmm, seems that the artist group has some things that we don't:
1) Member directory in the group description, which has usernames and their art threads. I don't think most of us here have our own threads, but if any of you have webspace with your photos let me know and I'll consider making a directory for our group, as well.
2) In-group contest. In this case there'd be no defined winner, it'd just be a nice motivator for you to get out and take the camera with you. On photography forums I've seen challenges/contests run in such a way where there are conditions for a picture, such as "take a picture of something yellow" or "take a picture of something you expected to see" and then the more interesting "take a picture of something unexpected" - things like that. Does anyone like the idea of that?
In-group contest/challenge/theme sounds nice. Though I think it may be better not to make it into a competition but an event where theme or subject would be defined and then members would simply discuss and critique others' work. I think competition form may discourage some members to enter.
Also just for geographical reasons the theme selection should be done with care. Members of this group come from all around the world so choosing a summery theme for an event would work quite poorly in July for someone living in southern hemisphere etc. Plants and animals are a bit of a difficult case as well the theme needs the very least to be broad enough to allow geographical differences. It also may bring some extra spice for the events so I don't think that avoiding nature themes should be avoided just broad enough. Rural and urban themes may prove difficult as well as all members won't necessarily have an easy access to either one of the environments.
Suggestions for the first theme.
No limits, as long it's related to your hobby it's OK.
An example, track and field is your hobby. You can take a picture of anything related, be that a athlete, sports ground or equipment etc.
Arrangement of objects you use for one of your hobbies.
This is limited to objects you'd use for your hobby. The number objects is not limited but you have to use at least two. Objects used in pairs or numbers count as multiple objects so pair of shoes count as two objects.
To use the same example athletes, sports grounds are out. You'd have to make an arrangement of equipment you would use for the sport in question. Clothing, other equipment and equipment used in sporting facilities will all do just no people and no scenery shots.
The following are topics are excluded from the theme. Photography, anime and manga. (In case of anime and manga, watching and reading are excluded. If you draw, animate sub, dub, etc. partially or completely produce it it's OK.) So photos would have to be about you
hobbies. Ones that all of us don't necessarily already know about.
I wrote a small lens buyer's guide for digital photographers.
I hope you find it useful.
It can be read in the opening post of my Fan Creations thread tutorials spoiler box.
There's a few more to come as soon as I find time.
Next will probably be about basics of black and white photography. It may get a bit artsy though...
I'm having a hard time finding time to take example pictures so if someone is interested shooting roughly 10 RAW pictures for it drop me a message. I'll explain then in more detail what I need. Fairly basic stuff will do.
I've been inquiring about a more general tutorials thread for Fan Creations but haven't got the answer yet so for the time being the guides are going to be in my FC-thread.
Well... I didn't really think of the group directory you talked about. Chison, thought of it I just simply am the only one who can edit it ^^.
Though a group contest for this social group interest me greatly
I have no decent camera other than my Sony Digial Camera, but I'm more interested in what ya will post.
just a question,do any photographers used old films-camera here.w.?
i would love to see a list of you guys animesuki's photographic index ^^
anyway,sidenote,small Digial Camera have no much control,involve,so are well not much skill involved,still,i got a pair of new eyes.
i am looking forward to see how Photographers eye work it out^^
, I use film sometimes. I shoot BW photos on the film and develop them myself. Don't have much to show at the moment though. I've lost my prints.
It's a nice hands on approach to photography to keep your feet on the ground.
I may be a bit oldskool in my methods in the digital world. Still use many methods more typical for film photography. Though I'm constantly drifting more and more towards joining the PaS brigade.
escimo,did you build you own dark room to develop them with all them chemist liquid.XD
digital are save up much more money and time
not very sure about lots of thing(and unsure that should i talk in this board)
Photographers seems to be active to check on the this board but not talking it**?
I used to have a dark room. For now it's in pieces but I'm trying to rebuild it in fall. Playing with dangerous chemicals is fun.
I do have to say that digital is far more convenient. However even though I've had a DSLR for about 6 years now I'm still not quite used to it. I actually used to photograph quite a bit more when I was shooting on film. Got in those 5-6 years used to the methods and techniques that seem to die hard so I haven't got all the convenience out of digital age yet. I'll upload a few more photos shot on film. Heavy Machinery and Grand Prix that I've already uploaded are.
now a day ,all the art-student a know of using digital-camera
photo-sense paper are somehow expensive
do you sell your photograph to resevse some money back to support yourself?or is this just a matter of hobby?
old,film camera have it nembers drop more and more now**?or maybe is just what's around me are digital?
looking forward to see some of your photo^^
No I don't sell my pictures.
Papers and chemicals are somewhat expensive due to very small market. Actually really hard to get as well. Films are almost extinct as well. Really few options left on the market.
B/W film photography has been lying on it's deathbed for 20 or so years and digital seems to be the thing delivering the final blow. Luckily I have quite a stash of old films so they'll not be an immediate problem. Papers probably will be eventualy but luckily not all manufacturers have dropped them. Chemicals you can always make. But I'd really rather not to.
XD...you must be living hard with them old,camera.
running out of topic...omg
question, i send out more and more invite to drawing artist to build up a group,used to be only a number of six member,(artist don't have much teamworks)
Photographers union don't seems to send invite becasue you all know each other
is that more or less most of the photographers in animesuki are here at this union?
Before making this group the only people that I knew of who seemed to be into photography were
. It was a nice surprise to see more members join up. A difference between artists and photographers is in the equipment. Artists can discuss manufacturers and types of materials, but photographers tend to be sorted according to camera maker (and occasionally model). I don't have a terrible amount to discuss with Canon or Nikon users equipment-wise because a fair bit of the fun things (lenses and camera features) are not interoperable. And once you buy a digital camera, that's a big investment and you won't change brands just because one guy seems to be having an easier time with his camera
most artist goes down to
software(for teach and learn)
style(for beauty sense)
still,lots of us using pencil as a basic equipment and i don't think we care too much about manufacturers at all,"scanner,digi-pen"in fact,after you bought the equitment ,it will be impossible to know the detail manufacturers unless is about different colour and brush
anyway,is good to know more photographer join,i hope you guys upload more in the group^^
i got a few more sky around somewhere
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