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Waalaikum salam ^^
There's a lot Bleachers here
@Chaos.... Whoa......I just read through the thread you pointed. I'm a free-speecher myself, but it was depressing people couldn't understand why Muslims would be upset by the sterotypes media paints.
Anyway, leaving aside such depressing topics where they belong....welcome Satsuki
. I've seen you around Bleach forums; am pleased to meet you here.
I think, we should try to understand the other people's views too. I don't want to close my eyes to the major problems regarding how our religion is interpreted. And, the way the other people portraying Islam are usually happening through those bad examples.
I can understand the sensitivities that others have to respect, but, if they don't do it with the purpose of actually giving harm (in many cases it is like that), we should learn to respect that. Though, that is a wishful thinking as of now, cause, even many highly educated Muslims, I personally know well, do not wish to have that kind of flexibility.
I know what you mean. Actually, the attitude from most reasonable people in West defending these skewed portrayals is not "All the negative stereotypes are true!", rather it's "Why should Muslims care about the lies in media?" So, I don't think people defending free speech are attacking us Muslims. In fact, at times I almost agree.
The problem is such negative portrayals of us can't just be shrugged off as harmless. It increases the culture gap between us.........it makes Islamic countries and extremism seem more of a threat to America than it really is. When I see the Western media (especially Fox news and Hollywood), they seem to believe that countries like Iran and Pakistan are never far away from launching a jehad against the West. That's the real reason I dislike these negative portrayals of Islam..............not because they offend my sensitivities really, but because I fear it heightens the gap between us and people in the West.
That said, you are completely right that we need to respect the sensitivities and values of others, especially free speech. And there's no denying that the negative portrayals do have a grain of truth, in the few bad apples who misinterpret Islam violently.
The problem is that they see no wrong in disrespecting their own religion sometimes... Thus, they expected us the same.
What pissed me off is their overgeneralisation.
asalam alaikum warahmat allah wa barakato everyone ^^
yay it feels so great to meet muslims on here =>
, I had a feeling you might be a muslim from your username XD I wasn't sure though ..good to know you're a muslim..should become your friend then
but where are you from? I'm from UAE ^^
Wa alaikum assalam,
. The only fact I know about UAE is that the literacy rate among females is higher than among males.......well, it's not a bad place to start learning
. I'd like to work in Dubai someday; a couple of my friends are already employed there, and the IT jobs are quite lucrative.
I'm from Pakistan, the state founded as a separate homeland for the Muslims of the subcontinent. My grandparents were originally from India, but like so many others, they emigrated here 60 years ago when our country was born.
Wa alaikumsalam HaNa-san. ^^ Welcome to the little circle we have here ^^
long time no see everyone^^
i think there not only western people who think islam violent.
in my country, when i see news report on tv yesterday, they say some islamic organization attack peoples who support ahmadiyah. so i think some muslim make muslim name become bad too ...
Oh, agreed. There was a killing spree in my country a few years back where Shia doctors were specifically targeted. Something like 70 doctors were shot dead in the span of a few months. Not only is it vicious, it's hard to even understand the motivation.
Satsuki Yuuhi Ramius
Why doctor in shia is targeted?
There are extremist groups (a minority in both Shia and Sunni) who wanted to make a point. If you want to shock a community, than periodic drive-by shooting of doctors is pretty much the best way. Either that or bomb in a mosque. Those sectarian killings peaked 3 or 4 years back though...........thankfully, it seems to have stopped now, at least for the last several months.
As to why the sectarian violence ever happened..........well, there are a lot of factors, and I'm not the best student of history. Being on the borders of the Afghan-Russia war, and the rise of Taliban there later didn't help. Neither does the Kashmir conflict with India. Both conflicts led to growth of well-armed and well-funded extremist factions.
I don't want to give misleading impression though that Pakistan is a war-zone or anything. Callous as this will sound, a couple of hundred casualties a year in a population of 150 million is miniscule. There's a long history of Shia-Sunni coexistence in Pakistan, and generally, everyone gets along fine.In fact, I'd say there's less Shia-Sunni discrimination/tension here, then there is racial tension in many other countries.
Unfortunately, there are some nutcase groups who commit these atrocities every year or so to scare people.
Nutcases sadly exist everywhere. You cant ignore them either too or they kick your butt reaaaaaal hard >.<
I am not muslim. I have family members that are. Most people think I am because my name is Malika.<--Now you know. And I bash the hell out of Christianity (Don't tell the Christians they are dangerous when riled.) I won't get into it. Let's just say I am not down with it. However as a Black American and one who's people are oppressed I am totally feeling the plight of Muslims. And the negative stereotypes that a projected about us (Blacks and Muslims) I live in America. But patriot I am not. I just live here. I am here because I want you to know. Most things you hear about Blacks are lies. The same way you hear lies about Muslims (I don't buy that shit just cause they sell it cheap on the news) And brothers and sisters we people of color...need to stick to together. That's why if you are American support Barack Obama. He wants to give the Palestinians back their land that was stolen about 50 years ago. And he thinks Iran has legitimate beefs with the US. (I do too) As an oppressed person he would be the best person to deal with Muslim countries. He knows the bullshit firsthand.....Just thought I would throw that out there. Because if they don't kill him. He will be a great president.
So can I stay or what?
>.So can I stay or what?
Sure You Can Stay OD-Chan ^.^
Thanks...I don't want to offend anyone, because I am not Muslim. But I never met any that wasn't nice. My former Phlebotomy Instructor had such a love for Islam...He almost made me want to convert. Amir knows how I feel about the crap they say on the news...So he knows I mean it. I like learning about other cultures...so I joined. And I like politics so I joined. Glad to know I can stay...
You know what's weird. My first name is Muslim, Middle Name is Hebrew and my last name is German. My family is really screwed up...
Wide world and culture perspective is always cool. Now, if your family had let you call your son Ichigo, that would've added even more diversity to the mix.
>. My first name is Muslim, Middle Name is Hebrew and my last name is German. My family is really screwed up...
You Make Wanna Wonder What is your Name
Welcome OD.. I hope we gives you good impression unlike what we are potrayed to be by those medias
Salam Raging Heart ^^
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