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Winter 2013 Season
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Winter 2013 Season
I, for one, hope the forum never ends up quite like the Bleach forum has often: silenced to the point of destruction. Even worse, almost everyone moved to an entirely different forum. I am under the impression that Bleach is what started mods on the trend of warping everything out to shipping wars when many are small debates at this point. And so, everyone abandoned the forum. I don't see many shippers left on this forum that have the audacity to flaunt their flag anymore for fear of being banned for creating a possible shipping war. Thank goodness the Bleach anime ended too.
Just to offer the other point of view, the Bleach forum wasn't "silenced to the point of destruction" (and it had nothing much to do with shipping). This site can't be all things to all people. Right now we are (I think) pretty good in terms of keeping discussing pretty well-organized while an anime is airing. But, once it's over, our sub-forums are really not designed to support the remnant fan community that wants to keep on chatting about it when there's really nothing new to discuss. (In the case of Bleach, there is the on-going manga, but there was a huge drop in interest after the anime stopped airing.) In that phase, it becomes more "chatty", more cyclic, and less on-topic... and so less conducive to that sort of sub-forum layout. Trying to keep it artificially alive at that point is pointless; the sub-forum served its purpose and should be allowed to retire. And that's why we prefer social groups at that phase... although it'd be nice if vBulletin would have made them a bit more powerful than they are, IMO. If the Social Groups still aren't good enough, then moving to another forum is okay too if you really want. I just don't see how our general sub-forum design and manner of operating really works well for a small community of friends. It works acceptably for a large community of interested parties.
If that was the case, then why didn't you suggest social groups to those of us at the Macross forums at least a month or two after the second movie had aired? You kinda brought that whole mess on yourselves then. We, as ones who post, believe we should keep a forum alive not let it die.
We've suggested social groups in many cases like this. I don't know if we did it in this case, or why we didn't if not. You guys have basically lived in the Macross sub-forum, but I know that I don't (partly because I have sadly yet to watch Macross Frontier, even though I own all the Blu-Rays, so don't want to be more spoiled than necessary.)
I don't know what you think "we brought upon ourselves" exactly, but I know for sure that we didn't deserve the lies and the slander, among other things.
Anyway, I'll try to leave it at that for now.
I don't know how I should feel that you guys managed to have a mod grace our social group.
That said, make him feel at home, yeah?
Wait, they can just appear in a cloud of smoke like teh debbil? I thought this shindig was invite only.
Nah, I never turned that function on...
You can pretty much post without being a member.
For whatever it's worth, though, even "private" Social Groups are part of the "public" content on the site, and are subject to the same Forum Rules and moderation as on the rest of the public forum, though obviously the rules are much more relaxed in terms of "on-topic", "spoilers" and so on. So the staff can appear in Social Groups "uninvited"... though there isn't always a need/motivation to do so.
Ah, whatever, you might as well be a member here. We have plenty of room
Tak is either a very friendly host, or is trying to expand his harem.~
In other news, I decided to drop Vividred, if any of you guys are still watching, be sure to leave a note here if it starts to get interesting.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
^ Not from me, I'm afraid. I dropped Vividred too once I see all those ass-shots (children's asses, no less) in the first episode. It reminds me of my traumatic experience with Strike Witches
I never started Vividred.
@relentlessflame: None of the mods ever suggested a social group to any of us during our time on the subforum.
With the controversy surrounding Yoshino's writing, I've made a point of watching pretty much every series he's listed as Series Composer for. That way I can have an informed opinion. Vividred is not an exception to this.
Despite some painful moments, I've actually found it to be a pretty entertaining series if its not taken too seriously. IMO episode two was the worst, while four and five were actually pretty good. And I didn't actually find the fan service that bad. Though then again with the director of Strike Witches involved I was probably prepared for much worse.
My problem isn't the fanservice, CGi being used for the characters or taking it lightly. It's just that it seems like a story I've seen before a couple of times. Since I've made the mistake of torturing myself with shows like Symphogear in the past that just didn't get better, I decided to drop this for the time. My guess is that whether it's worth watching for the story or not will be clear by around episode 16.
Don't judge by episodes, Matts. Those of us invested in Aquarion EVOL were disappointed by episode 16 and it only worsened by the final episode. I'd judge it based on its ending, if it was worth watching at all.
By epsiode 16 I thought EVOL was pretty much a trainwreck and kept on watching to the end because it was 'easy to watch'. The fact that I really didn't care for any of the characters in the end made it easy for me to not hate the show, just move on.
With VividRed being kind of a return for Yoshino to the girls kick butt using super powers genre I wanted to like it, but I'm not really getting it for now. I won't mind if the ending sucks, endings can be large let downs, but if the journey itself turns out to be interesting, I'll be willing to catch up later on. I liked Mai-Hime, even though I disliked the ending a lot I don't regret sitting through it and that was a show I dropped for several episodes too. And it was a Yoshino series in said genre.
Those of us who watched EVOL had already seen its first series, Sousei no Aquarion, and had high (extremely high) expectations of the show due to its first series. And so, our point of view towards EVOL is probably different than yours.
For instance, IMO, EVOL is a bad fanfiction gone wrong.
I only saw scenes from the original and was never all that interested. The good thing is that the original series is so old, and Aquarion isn't all that likely to become another Macross, that you can do what I do when I hate a sequel. Pretend it doesn't exist!
Just to make sure there's no confusion here -Yoshino may have some not so good shows to his name, but he wasn't the Series Composer for Aquarion EVOL. That was Mari Okada, another writer whose work can be rather hit and miss.
It might actually be interesting to see the two of them collaborate on a series some time just to see how crazy it would be. It could be either epically awesome or (more likely) an epic trainwreck. :P
I don't think there was any confusion.
As for reputation, I've only seen a handfull of Yoshino's works and I never had a really big complaint against him. I felt that Hime was rushed and the characters could have used 52 episodes, but I ended up enjoying the show anyway. Mari-san's works on other hand tend to either really work for me, or they really don't. While I didn't think much of her work on Evol, I loved most of what she and Kawamori did with AKB and I love the second season even more.
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