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Rinne No Lagrange
Season two doesn't start for a few weeks yet (unless you've decided to spoil yourself by watching the S2, E1 preair) but I figured we could get some discussion going.
This show was one of the big surprises of Winter 2012 for me. The description I read of it didn't sound very good, and while there were some things I enjoyed in the early episodes, by the end of episode three my opinion was something along the lines of the show being pretty but rather cliche. Then episode four came around and it started getting very good very fast.
One of the things about this show that really won me over was Muginami's storyline. Interestingly the storyline with her and Villagiullio reminds me a lot of the Sheryl/Grace storyline in Frontier. The scene where Villa cut Muginami loose reminded me quite a bit of the scene at the hospital where Grace crushed Sheryl. Although I think Villa actually still cares about Muginami. (In some respects the Muginami/Villa storyline also resembles the movie version of the Sheryl/Grace storyline, with Muginami initially acting as an agent for Villa's organisation and Villa giving indications that he still cares about her.)
And speaking of Lagrange and Frontier, anyone find Megumi Nakajima's voice as Grania (Villagiulio's second in command)
different from her voice as Ranka? :lol:
Well, Muginami is the one character of the main trio who doesn't work for me. I know that she hides a lot of soulcrushingly bad experiences behind that behaviour of hers, but her acting so ditzy is vastly annoying just the same.
The other two mains and their interaction with each other is much more interesting, IMO. Lots of yuri subtext.
I actually quite like the show's layback settings, then I found out it was a deliberate attempt to increase tourism of Kamogawa. Nice move and... nice accents.
The scene with Villa and Mugi proved quite powerful. My take is that Villa still cares very much about Mugi, but deliberately told her off so she could have a better life on Earth than roaming around the galaxy risking certain death. It must have hurt him to say those things.
"Lagrange and Frontier, anyone find Megumi Nakajima's voice as Grania (Villagiulio's second in command) really different from her voice as Ranka? :lol:"
Quite an improvement on Megu's part. Although I am reminded of other master VAs. Can you imagine Luca (MF) & Lulu (CG) are voiced by the same person?
Then there is Naomi Shindou, my favorite VA of all time...
Muginami's airhead act didn't particularly bother me (didn't she largely drop it after the fifth episode anyway?). I think all three of the girls are important and that they compliment each other quite well, although I will admit to favoring Muginami somewhat, probably because she spiced things up a bit and proved the show knew how to hit hard on an emotional level (I can be a sucker for drama sometimes).
It occurs to me that while they're interesting, I should be careful about overplaying the similarities between parts of Muginami and Sheryl's stories. Muginami may not be a Sheryl level character, but she's not riding on Sheryl's coattails either. I love her storyline because it's emotionally powerful, not because I can compare it to Sheryl's.
As for why Villa tossed Muginami out, I'm not convinced he did it for her benefit even though I think he still cares about her. He attacked her new friends and her new home. I think he views what he's doing with regards to the Vox as so important it takes precedence over Muginami. I think he'd prefer that she wasn't involved with the Voxes, but since she went and bound herself to one she is very much involved.
On a related note, I think Villa's obession with the Voxes may have some relation to the fact that his real younger sister (Yurikano) is inside some sort of pocket dimension inside Vox Aura. :lol: At any rate I hope we get some proper clarification about his objectives next season, as his actions and words with regards to the Voxes haven't always been consistent.
Also relating to Villagiulio -I forgot to mention that he's voiced by Alto's voice actor. That's also kind of amusing. Got me thinking about Alto in Villa's garb, but then I realised that Alto is better suited to playing the part of a blue haired princess. :P
You know, my initial impression of the mechanical designs
reminded me of a Valkyrie, but after further observation, it started to look like a car. So I dug around a bit, and found out Nissan actually had 60 car designers work on competing the designs for the VOX.
I thought to myself,
well, how about that...
Aren't there some Nissan cars in the backgrounds of some scenes too?
Yeah, Lagrange is rather commercialized, but I don't really see that as a big problem. Granted they play Kamogawa up quite a lot, but in general I feel it doesn't interfere with the story. And hey, if well integrated advertising can help good anime projects get funded maybe it's not such a bad thing.
On a related note, some people have compared the Vox to the FRV-00 Mave from Battle Fairy Yukikaze.
Has anyone checked out the trailers for Season Two and Kamogawa Days yet? Some interesting stuff in them. I'd thought the Kamogawa Days OVA would probably be some sort of unimportant side story fluff, but it looks like there may actually contain some substantial developments.
"but I don't really see that as a big problem"
Oh, its not a big problem alright. Its just that this is probably the first time I saw such enormous corporate effort on producing an anime series. Its like saying Boeing subsidized Satelight in the production of Macross...
Season Two is now well underway, so it's probably getting to be about time to revive this thread?
You guys seen Episode Three yet? Got any guesses as to
what the heck
is going on with Yurikano?
Clone. Cloooone. ^^
Gives me at least some hopes that Dizelmine is just a big softie inside, instead of being the cold as ice type he has been portrayed so far. Or it can mean he is not only evil, but SUPER EVIL.
I actually have more to wonder about Mr. I-Always-Close-My-Eyes. Last season, he was just cold and snarky... maybe even evil. But if he was evil, it wouldn't be too surprising, would it?
That being said, his choice of a snack is terrible.
Yeah, he has been pushed into the background. But I guess if they are going with Dizelmine as the BBEG of this season, his minion cannot be too much in the foreground. We'll see.
Personally I'm not entirely convinced that the Yurikano we saw is a clone. One member basically theorised that her consciousness got trapped somewhere and that she's been developing a new personality from a blank state. Also, there's been talk
about how Vox experiments can damage the test subject's personality.
At any rate, if that's the original Yurikano then she presumably still has a Memoria... and can pilot Vox Aura.
As for Dizelmine, I don't think he's "in it for the 3vilz." I think he actually does have his people's interests in mind. It's just that he's utterly ruthless.
Now Moid on the other hand... he might be "in it for the 3vilz." (Or a desire to see a Rinne blossoming.)
Hey, wait for him to put on the white facepaint and the wide grin.
As for Yurikano.. not sure. We know from S1 that her real conciousness was present in some sort of other world. Maybe it is the original body, but with a new personality. Which could explain the newly pissed off original spirit of Yurikano, who now is all Tsun and missing her Dere side.
Well, because of all the positive things that everybody has said about this series, This will be the next thing I watch. For spoiler reasons I didn't read most of the posts but I'll be sure to read it all when I'm done.
EDIT: Two episodes in and It's pretty enjoyable. I think it'll be a fun ride.
EDIT 2: Finished the first season, Alot of questions but I'll assume they'll be answered in the second season. I don't like how they both returned to their brothers though. I thought they'd gained a sense of independence being there with Madoka. Apparently not though.
Okay, Dizelmine is an evil douchebag. The crime of stealing someone's amnesiac, thought to be dead imouto and corrupting her so she treats you like her oni-chan instead of her real brother simply cannot go unpunished.
On another note, my opinion of Muginami's competence and intelligence took a hit this episode. Madoka must be rubbing off on her.
Yeah, he's an evil douchebag alright. Although it is pretty obvious that Moid is the one who let Yurikano go.
And you ever had confidence in Muginamis intelligence? Lol. ^^
Next week looks to be interesting.
Muginami is the smartest of the three leads. The toast test proves it. Madoka tries to run with toast in her mouth like some anime character, but Muginami holds it in her hand like a sensible person (Lan was somewhere between the two -she seemed to be taking a bit while running).
More seriously, I've generally thought of Muginami as being a fairly intelligent character. A lot of the "stupid" stuff she's done occured when she was putting on an act or getting emotional about something.
Also, Villagiulio commented that Muginami has always been good at hiding, so I was surprised she'd try something so easy to see through. (Seriously, it would have made Moid look bad if he hadn't been able to see through what they were doing! Heck, I'm not sure even Dizelmine was fooled by those disguises, and he hasn't dealt with Madoka and Muginami as much as Moid has.)
Sword Art Online seems to be finding its feet, at least it is finally setting up relationships between the main characters ( all two of them so far ).
Rinne no Lagrange 2... excellent as always. And more nuanced than I first thought, which is
time the show has surprised me.
Estetica... getting too stupid even for "guilty pleasure" territory.
Just finished latest Rinne... holy crap... brother is
Nice job, LAN!!! ... ...
Lan has developed splendidly over the course of the series.
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