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Drawing, CGing Techniques and Discussion
Drawing, CGing Techniques and Discussion
This discussion is for the specifics of drawing rather than the vague chat we have in the General Discussion.
Specifics as in all graphic editing programs: Photoshop, Gimp, Sai, Corels and so on. I don't care which form of drawing you like as a default. If it's used we can discuss it, I might not be experienced in it but w/e
Same as in sketches, pencil, chalk, pastel, charcoal. (i'm bad at the last 3 >.<)
The exceptionally made videos I've found will be posted here *Feel free to post any videos you have found exceptionally made too here, i'll update this post with them.
Tutorial sites (The good ones)
- Very good place and the drawing is up to date so you don't feel like you're learning from 15 years back like the How to Draw Manga series
- I haven't been through all of the sites yet, but watching replays of the videos is probably more helpful that those on youtube. Has a wide variety of theme and genre of drawings too, so have fun.
- This one is a Japanese magazine by the name of Touch. It's 100% japanese text but looking at the screenshots should help those who understand intermediate level of photoshop or other similar programs.
- One of my friends randomly linked me this page. It's again mostly japanese but a few clicks can link you to the steps they used along with screenshots.
Tutorial Links (For drawing body parts & stuffss...)
An Anime Eye Tutorial -
(This was the one I learned from, so hopefully it will help you in some ways too)
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Okay, that should be fine
Well... for those that what to know about me and my drawing Tools.
I have my sets of drawing pencil. Bought a set of graphite pencils, came with 4H, 3H, 2H, H, HB, B, 2B, 3B, 4B, 5B, 6B, 8B graphite pencils. (12 total) I never use them ^^ other than my walmart .05 lead pencil which is used for 99% of my drawings. Though you're limited to about 3-4 shades, lol ^^
My inking pen are PigmaŽ Micron inking pens. I have all 5: (in black ink only)
005 = 0.20 mm
01 = 0.25 mm
02 = 0.30 mm
05 = 0.45 mm
08 = 0.50 mm
There's more colors but I didn't find much uses for them so I don't have any of them.
My paper - Though there's quite a few selection of paper. I used mostly regular found Ink Jet paper found at any United States store cause they have a pretty smooth surface and retain the graphite pretty well and mostly it's cheap
My other is loose leaf paper, cause again it's cheap.
I have the Strathmore Sketch spiralbound pads. I have 3 size, but I keep mostly to the 14'x17" since it big enough for me to draw almost anything on
Drawing Table? Don't have one. I'll draw any where, my bed, my desk, the sofa ^^
Drawing/CGing softwares - I use mostly Photoshop CS2 and OpenCanvas. I did have a tablet, I use a mouse. Works for most purpose till u get annoying lines ^^
* How to draw manga series
* google and few keywords
* youtube / niconico - for speed painting videos and tutorials
* Deviantart / Pixiv - more tutorials
* About.com always have good articles on drawing techniques and stuff too
* Other sites I can't metion here
That should be all, i think... ^^
K, my tools:
Pencil: I really only use one of those steel-barrel zebra pencils you can find anywhere. (.5mm) I also use smudge sticks/thumb for soft shading.
Pen/Inking: I use a Uniball Vision needle point pen for inking over lines, just because the graphite dust doesn't break it. I occasionally do lines with a permanent marker.
Paper: I usually use a medium weight mead sketch pad, or an index card. Usually something that won't hand smudge that easily.
Coloring: I usually use my friend's (Keikun's) scanner and then color/edit in Photoshop CS4. I occasionally color with colored pencils. I've also used metallic marker for a few projects.
Notes: K, I don't have a scanner, printer, or tablet. I also don't have a drawing table or even an easel. Or acrylic paints/brushes for that matter, even though I like acrylic. I do have a Chinese watercolor and brush set though. I have a ton of other pencils/pens/art supplies. I just don't use them. Hmmm, I think that's about all.
Allright, my tools
1) I always start with a pencil #2, sometimes I use softer pencils but I prefer #" because is better when adding shades, I also use charaocal, this when I have no intention of coloring, very few cases.
2) For the inking process I use a 'Sharpie' fine pen or a 'gel' pen. Mostly the first one, the second one is a bit dirty to work with.
3)Digital process, Simply my Lexmatk scanner in tones of white and black, then I use Photoshop to correct any imperfection, stains of ink and related.
4) Coloring, combinate Photoshop 0.7 and GIMP in this case, also work efects with both (rain, fire, light, etc...)
Drwing table? No, don't use any
Lots of drawing books and lot of practice, I have a small maniqui doll and sometimes I ask friends or use live action photos to draw poses and related.
I used to have Oil Paints, watercolors, 6 Easils(? spelling), an animator's table, Bristol Pads, canvas, 100's of brushes, and MANY different kinds of Pencils, and Coals.(too much stuff to write with one hand :P )
Now I use 2 kinds of pencils when I do Draw, My trusty #2b and a Mechanical Pencil for Fine lines.
Inking I use India Ink and Metal Quills. ( again when I do draw )
And Coloring I Photoshop CS4
My standard drawing items:
2b mechanical pencil = For all my drawings.
Old seasoned eraser = For erasing large areas, or to spread and even graphite over large areas of heavy shading, similar to charcoal.
New eraser with sharp corners = For precision erasing of sketch lines between lines.
I also place a piece of paper between my drawing hand and picture, to prevent accidental smudging. The same piece of paper is also used for precision erasing by covering parts and erasing parts uncovered.
All my drawing is done with the 2b mechanical pencil, I control shades by pressure applied on paper and thickness of lines by tilting the pencil edge. Eraser is used to shape and sharpen lines when needed.
tools . . . lesse um well we got the:
and the occasional computer drawing pad for coloring
and lastly one of teh 5,000 erasers that i use when needed
shading is all done with the pencil . . . i usually don't do epic shading cause it take to long just the the basic "this area is shaded from the light source"
@C.A. yea i proly should start doin that cause i have alot of accidentaly smudges
@Keikun . . . . . i envy u so much . . . i want a drawing table so bad!! but there not enough room in my room forz it!
easiest way to start drawing is by doin step by step work (start with circles and work to formation of the body) but there are some people who can just draw it out, not many people i've meet could/can do that tho
Pencils: 0.5HB and 0.7B automatics, 2H, HB and 2H pencils
Markers: Copic Ciao grays 5 shades, black and blender, Promarker 5 cool grays, black and blender, random el cheapo brushtips and calligraphy pens
Paper: Schoellershammer and Promarker marker papers, copy paper, 160g/m2 sketchpads and regular copy paper
Digital stuff: Wacom Bamboo A5 wide tablet, Photoshop and Illustrator CS3, Manga Studio Debut.
I Had an animation table, I had to sell it and all of my other supplies after My accident to pay for my Medical Bills ... I want that table Back, as well as all of my other supplies and My loft lol.
Sorry I felt I had to go
there for a Second lol
I need to see if I kept any of My sketches and/or Paintings to show you guys the awesomeness that was Me LOL
lol that sucks tho but u do what ya gotta do to keep goin in life
Many people liked fireball I used for this pic:
Here's the tutorial to work it on Photoshop.
Clouds are one of the few features I really like in my CGing but I haven't quite found a quick and ez way to make clouds yet.
The easiest is of course Filter > Render Clouds > Mask Rendered Clouds > Flood Fill Cloud Color > Edit > Transform > Perspective with a combination of Skew, Distort & Warp. But this way I couldn't get it to look right.
I remember the extrude filter did some strange but neat things, but I've went back and played around with it and got nada >.<
This was the tutorial i've been using for clouds -
ps: If you didn't know using the rendered clouds at low transparency makes good fog
This is my current wallpaper i'm messing around with and i've been using it as my test subject for all my evil deeds and fog wasn't really one of them but it world well, i suppose...
Don't mind the poorly drawn clouds up above, i've been testing different techniques to work it out somehow. Either way, failure is my only way to learn here ^^
filter is one of the most useful filters of PhotoShop. I used to use it a lot for quick
space nebula BGs
as well. I don't use it much anymore as I primarily just stick to B&W, but it was one of the filters I that I did use, possibly even abused it, a lot. But I was never really comfortable using it for a sky BG by itself as it felt unnatural.
(Quickie Tutorial Time)
I believe I did the nebulas by using a black BG with quick stars thrown around on it, create a new layer use a color (such as green) and black and ran the Render Clouds filter. Set the layer to Screen with a mid opacity (50-75%). Make a new layer, choose another color (like purple) and keep black as the secondary color, run the filter, and set the layer properties. Repeat how many times as necessary. Then erase or shape the layers to your liking (such as what I did with the Emerald Empress image years ago).
@Evil: That Tutorial is really easy to follow. Thanks!
i really envy people who have that much time on their hands to do something like that Aioe .. . . i dont have the patience to do that
Oh, very nice to see the artists of AnimeSuki banding close together. I'll tell you, WoW is one hell of an annoying vice; I've produced maybe four or five drawings worth talking about in the past eight months, though I'm doing what I can to change that. Maybe I'll contribute more in the early feature.
Not to skew too off-topic here, I'll point out a few things that I have picked up in the last year or so that I believe made a difference in how I see the whole drawing thing. You see, I'm not an artist, I'm just a hobbyist. Thus, I started by simply jumping in and "doing", instead of observing and "learning". Artists study to improve their techniques; I make mistakes, scratch my head and search Google to improve my technique. That's the one thing about being so crazy about Anime that didn't work out so well for me. It was a passion that made me want to create now, no matter what it looked like.
On the tools thing, I have been increasingly fond of keeping a set of pencils to draw with. I won't lie, I'm a mechanical-pencil kinda guy. I like the confort and the lack of a necessity to keep sharpening my pencils, buying new ones and keeping them safe and learning to save them up as much as possible. But given my hands weight a ton, and I'm not very conservative in the strength of my lines, mechanical pencils began to leave streaks and marks wherever I used them. Erasing helps, of course, but you still have the remnants of the graphite stuck in the little creaks it makes on the surface of the paper. The heavier the paper, the more apparent it's becoming to me.
So I've been doing basic sketches with a B3 pencil and focusing on details only after I have the basic shapes and my characters in the positions I want them in. The difference between a soft pencil and a soft mechanical pencil is that the pencil will eventually lose its point, thus the less likely you are of leaving marks on the paper. Once I've got everything laid out, all I have to do is just erase what I'm covering with my H2/H4 pencil afterwards. At that level of hardness, lines will stick, and they won't smudge nearly as much.
Also, drawing on a flat surface sucks, especially if the surface you're drawing on isn't low enough for you to see the whole drawing from above. I'm still saving up for a drawing desk, and working my brains out in figuring out how I'm going to stick one inside this room, but if I'm to ever take my drawing seriously from this point forward, I'll need grab myself a surface with a higher angle. It makes things easier to see, gives you a larger perspective, and won't wear your back and demotivate you because you've just spent two hours with your darned back curved forward, and now it hurts like hell. I'm getting old, aren't I?
I've also become a huge supporter of SAI. It's small, easy to use, but able to do miracles even with its limited features.
Also, I saw the Cloud discussion come up in the last few posts. I'd recommend grabbing a Cloud brush and using settings that match your drawing style. If you're good enough with photoshop to do something like using Render Clouds and make it work for you, using a brush should be just as mindless. Sometimes just a few strokes can make a huge difference, believe me. I've been >trying< to learn how to draw them by hand. It's a difficult concept to grasp,
that much I'll tell you
Take care guys, let's get some more art out there.
PUFFY CLOUDS! ^^
Nice job so far.
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