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Leader of the Wolkenritter, Knight of the Sword, Signum
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Well more likely a little resume of Signum's spells and attacks to begin the discuss, we here all know how Badass she is, Signum not only is cool and beautiful, she's also one of the mightiest warrior in the entire Nanohaverse(more clarified in the new "StrikerS The Comics" special chapter entitled "After Days" where she engages in an explosive battle with Nanoha -the later with the Blaster system no less-, and even manages to face Raising Heart's mightiest blasts and deal powerfull blows on the Ace of Aces .....without AGITO!, if you're a fan of Signum you must read this special suplement) and i think her skills deserves their own thread, so i stars with the list of her power and abilities...
Abilites as a Guardian of the Tome of the Blessed Wind/Book of Darkness/Tome of the Night Sky and her weapon:
* Bogenform (Bow form) — Signum combines Laevatein with its scabbard to turn it into a longbow.
* Nachladen — Not a real attack, just Laevatein reloading cartridges.
* Telepathy — Not notable, as like flight and teleportation, all other mages in the Nanohaverse have it; however, her links appear to be strong with the other Wolkenritter, so it is tentatively listed here.
* Schlangenform (Snake form) — Laevatein expands into chain-link form.
* Schwertform (Sword form) — Laevatein returns to sword form.
* Transformation — Signum performs a group transformation with Vita and Shamal.
* Knight Armour — Signum's battle costume is comprised of a battle dress designed for mobility, and armor plates. Although it is only referred to as "Armour" in the series, it seems to function similarly to the Barrier Jacket of the Mid-Childa magic system. Although Hayate discouraged her and the other Wolkenritter from fighting, she co-designed each of their costumes.
* Panzer Geist (Tank Spirit) — Creates a defensive aura, which surrounds Signum.
* Panzer Schild (Tank Shield) — Blocks all magical attacks coming from one direction with a triangular magic shield, much like Fate's or Nanoha's Round Shield.
And my favourite part, her ATTACKS:
* Hiryū Issen (飛竜一閃, Hiryū Issen?) (Flying Dragon Flash) - One of Signum's most powerful attacks, she spins Laevatein in Schlangenform and makes fire elemental energy run along the blade. A typhoon of flames is formed in the air between the segments of the blade, which is then thrown against the enemy. Though it falls in the Shooting-Type category, this attack has roughly the same power as Fate's Plasma Smasher, a Bombardment-Type Spell.
* Karyū Issen (火竜一閃, Karyū Issen?) (Fire Dragon Flash) - Signum creates a shaft of flames and hold it as if was a sword. By swinging her arm, she can then throw the flames against enemies that are far away. With the help of Agito, Signum used this spell to destroy over 50 Gadget Type-II with one single strike.
* Shiden Issen (紫電一閃, Shiden Issen?) - Roughly translating to "Sword Flash", this is a weaker version of the Hiryū Issen with Laevatein in Schwertform that covers the sword's blade with flames to increase its attack power. Other than that, its just a regular melee strike.
* Sturm Falken (Storm Falcon) — Laevatein's attack as a bow.
Where these are the officialy named attacks that Signum have, ther are a few others that i remeber like the "Schlangenform" upgraded by Agito covered in purple anergy and cabable of extending even longer than the standar mode and capable of destroying several Type-II and III Gadget Drones with ease.
also, no precisely a spell but i think the skill Signum have with her scabbard might also count for an ability, she blocks several attacks and made counter attacks thanks to this move.
And then i found this video of YouTube, i hope you enjoying as much as me while watching this compílation of Signum's Skills xDDD!!!:
Well, that all for today i hope you want to comment on her battle style, weapons, costume or something that have to do with her awesomeness on the battlefield, if you remeber another technique that i don't mention or some move that you liked(or disliked) please comment, see ya xD!
In the special comic compilation on Signum n Nanoha's duel I found a few more spells that she uses.
- Jinpuu rekka(gale fire)
- Kouya (gleaming fang)
two new spells that I've never seen Signum use before. XD
You're right in that one!
It take me some time to notice the names of the attacks xD!
Jinpuu Rekka - Apparently is an attack that combines offensive/defensive maneuvers by attacking with a flaming Laevatein in Schlangenform by cover herself and spreading fire, it looks like a defensive/counter oriented version of the Hiryuu Issen.
Kouya - Sadly, the outcome of this attack happens offscreen(or offpage in this case xDU) it involves Signum in waiting position holding Laevatein with two hands that meybe involves a single powerful strike combined with some sort of energy blast or blade cause it was capable of counter attack the Divine Buster point blank.
And well indeed an awesome fight, recently i've obtained the A's and StrikerS OST an re learn this chapter with the background, that put a cool feeling to the battle xD!("Ace of Aces" is definetly the theme that suits Nanoha the best, "Ryuusei" and "Syukumei no Ito" are near perfect for Signum xD).
But let the reader to decide, so here is the link to the special chapter(also in the same site you can find the rest of the supplementary manga):
Well i hope you find it fun xD!!! See ya!
too bad... Maybe in the new Nanoha series Signum will have new attacks??? Well wat wif Agito around to unison with I'm sure she'll have at least one or two new n cooler attacks. Who knows??
i'm only waiting for them to use the mighty Bogenform to perform an arrow-based attack xDD!!!, with the help of Agito maybe Signum is going to be capable to do something resembling the Lamia's "Phantom Phoenix" attack! i can't wait to see that xD!
P.D.- Lamia Loveless and her mecha Angelg are from Super Robot Wars OG/Original Generations, Signum is an Homeage of her.
yea i noe that. Sure, the more new attacks and all, the happier i will be! XD Did i mention that i like the way her voice sounds?? deep and comforting. Her voice may sound seductive too!
Well, as for the last cahpter of the Nanoha FORCE manga titled appropietly "Blood & Flames" ends with a clifhanger for the beginning of the firt battle of an old character in this arc: Signum(and probably Agito) VS. Cypha of Huckbein, there's a lot of theories for the outcome of the battle, i love Signum but thinking plotwise it's probably that our fearless swordswoman finally falls victim to "The Worf Effect" since Cypha is a new character and Signum an old one, so, she may be is defeated to show how badass the new bad guys are.
Well, indepently of the outcome i am really excited since this will be the first serious opponent Signum faces in the manga(in order of appearance her oponent's on the manga are: a giant beast/worm thing, TSAB officers, Fate Tesstarossa, Gadget Drones, Nanoha, more Gadget Drones and finally Nanoha Again) Cypha really has no good intentions and Signum warns her that if she won't let go the pair(Cypha was menacing Lily and Touma with the latter unconscicious) and surrender, she will use deadly force, since both of them are powerfull swordwomen and neither of them wants to surrender or hesitates to use lethal attacks this promise to be a very awesome fight ....the best thing of it? ...next chapter is released on April 30th ...that means TWO DAYS XD! ...stay tuned for this epic BLOODY battle xD!
Trivia: Agito can now use Biding Spells xD!
Signum wud go for the kill, no mercy for the damn villain!!! I read that chap ady, damn hell it was a cliffhanger!!! i was at the verge of killing the author if ever!!! don't worry, have faith in our Signum sama for she will come out victorious!
The chapter is finally released and it didn't dissapoint me xD!, the battle starts very quickly and Signum go for the unison almost imediatly, Cypha has no redeeming qualities(at least for now) she openly admit to be reponsible for all the deads Signum acusses her and some more, there no new techniques for now but the Shidden Issen execution was AWESOME!(almost on DBZ levels, throws Cypha out of the sky, making a crater on the surface and also slices her right arm off, sadly she has very powerfull regeneretive powers and restores her severed arm), after the first assault Laevatein suffers some damage and Cypha reveals her true weapon(or weapons), now the real battle is about to begin! ...but... Touma misteriously awakes with a painfull and terryfing scream, Cypha gleefully announces that Touma has finally "awaken" as a real Divider and a member of the Huckenbein family. Meanwhile, Subaru is close to the town and is informed of the battle, now she goes off to join the mess and rescue Touma.
Very good chapter, Signum and Agito's Unison secuence look awesome, and the drawing for her flames are also high quality, Cypha looks like a powerfull opponent but gladly it cannot overpower our Flame General so easily(still rests the fact that Laevatein is slightly damged and Cypha has revealed her weapon's true form), i think(and really hope) that Cypha will be Signum's designated rival for this season, i have the feeling that Touma awaken incapable of controlling his power and go batshit on everybody in sight(Signum/Agito, Cypha, Lily and Isis) Cypha take advantage on the situation and flee the palce, Signum try to defend the two girls until Subaru came and somehow make Touma go back to his senses.
Now back on topic i really want to see some new techiniques(maybe the conclusion of her "Kouya" attack that we never see in her second fight with Nanoha) or(as the plot has introduce new and very powerfull threats) an attack with Laevatein in Bogenform performed in Unison with Agito xD!, well if you want to watch the chapter here is the link:
Record 06: Eclipse Driver
i saw the chapter ady but damn, wat a cliffhanger in the middle of a damn good battle!! I hope Subaru gets to Touma b4 Isis runs off with him again.... It'll be a hell of a goose chase that way.... as for our general, hehehe.... Cypha may as well say her prayers becoz I have absolute faith that our Blazing General will never lose, not to her in anything. Signum's has a pretty strong will n I say that Cypha lacks a gud reason to pick up her sword. Too bad that drive maniac doesn't see the reality of what her free kills do to others.... she'd definitely regret. Signum would not give her a chance after what Cypha did to that village, no way. ^^ I hope to see new spells as well as Signum blasting Cypha into oblivion with Sturm Falken though I think Signum may have a stronger spell that's still yet to be revealed. Perhaps it might be in this manga. ^^
Link to the last chapter of Nanoha Force(007: Reactor)
Well, i don't want to talk in advance, i don't event want to think of the posibility, but.... well here i come...
Just as i tought Signum was defeated by Cypha(by cheating all over the place), but, above that, it appears that she's KILLED OFF! ....well i can accept a defeat, i mean Cypha has a weapon explicity designed to kill mages but, i won't admit the suggestion of killing Signum, she's such a good character, i don't care if they leave her out of comission for the rest of the season but they can't kill her.
My toughts at this moment are not very clear but i'll make a try: i can assume, for example, that she's gonna be saved by Fate and Teana who are on the way but her injuries put her out of combat for the rest of FORCE. My other theory is that maybe she really dies but Hayate find some method to "reset" her with some reminiscent of the "guardian program" thus affecting her memories as a resource of drama. Whatever scenario takes place i can assume that someone is gonna be REALLY PISSED and almost everyone of the main cast have a reason(Hayate lost one of her "childs", Vita rage over her fallen comrade/leader, Fate laments the fall of her worthy rival, and Nanoha is pissed for the lost of a respectful and powerfull battle-forged friend).
Knowing Hayate, he maybe forces herself to mantain self-control(she's the boss after all) but i can't wait for the moment Nanoha or Vita encounters a member of the Huckebein family(i just want to see one of them to beat the everloving crap out of Cypha) it's just a matter of time.
I just going to point out how much i hate all those "anti-magic/mage killer" thing, sure someone who has the power to put our heroes in problems is an unavoidable requiorement, but why they don't introduce characters powerfull enough to confront the heroes on par? Instead we get some baddies with weapons designed to reduce/nullify their powers(that's why Signum's defeat was so cowardly done by Cypha), i want Signum to survive to face those bastards with knowledge on how their powers work, she won't need any upgrades besides her unison with Agito(and Laevatein repaired, of course) to royally kick their asses.
Well, it's time to cross our fingers, i don't think the author have the guts to kill Signum off for real, if he do that then a great part of the fanbase will rage(me included), plotwise it's almost unthinkable of a rematch or a recovery on the next part of the season, but at least we need to have the hope that well going to see our beloved Blazing General leading the flames in the Saky again.
i don't believe she will die. My brave Signum will never die!!!!
According to the previews of FORCE 008 she didn't(for now at least) as she appears on life support(still a heartbreaking image to me), after said event a large number of comments has raised about the matter, the fact is that Masaki Tsuzuki(the writer/author) put Signum as a guinea pig to test the fearsomeness of the Dvider Weapons and the Eclipse Driver(as the progress of the fight show us it appears that the Eclipse virus is more dangerous than the weapons themselves as it was the main cause of Laevatein's destruction) our blazing geneal, of course, put up a damn good fight and her serious and strong eyes din't change event at the bringe of being slashed to death, also even after falling from a very large leapt AND impaled to the ground her unconscicious body still holds grip of Laevatein's handle. The warm feeling imagen of her and Agito on the poster of Ch. 008 didn't help xDU, Signum is still alive but in very bad conditions and is implied that maybe she doesn't make it. Personally i don't think so, ok she's not a main character but still one of the favourites of the supporting ones and stated as one of the most powerful among the main cast(so the only way the writer found to get rid of her is by unleashing a "
" weapon), and the fact that is mentioned that she has her own AEC equipement waiting for her.
Personally i felt great anger and felt betrayed for that turn of events, i first called
(and it really was, take down a difficult-writing character like Signum by the excuse of bringing out a cheating bastard with weaponary specifically designed to counter her, even when her fans are hoping that this manga finally let her capable of showing her true skills is a Wall Banger on all it's crappy glory) ...then i sepend a week or two being a whinney fanboy(sorry i admit that i overexaggerated at some point) and finally starting to have doubts on her and the rest of the Wolkenritter. I don't like the course that the FORCE manga is start to taking(basically they're make "magic" effectively useless so they have to use more conventional weaponary, yup, still mana-powered but with more realistic and "lethal" functions) but neverthless i leraned to not take "FORCE" seriously, for now Tsuzuki has made a huge mistake and it appears that he had a plan for the ongoing series, i only hope that she at least take the opportunity to give Signum and her family(besides Vita who has enugh screentime) their much needed character developement, and give her an EPIC comeback(as much as i like to see Signum trouncing Cypha, it appears that the eye-patched scrappy is going to be on the wrong end of Vita's War Hammer or Nanoha's Strike Cannon, so i like to see Signum to take on a strong, undefeated, Huckebein all by herself), obviously this going to happen near the end of the arc(as the writer appears to still have problems writing on Signum's character).
About all of this thing of the new weapons o dislike completely the idea of bring the caracters new weapons by making the orignals useless XP. Raising heart is given a supporting roile and Graf eisen is pretty much ditched in favour of War Hammer(even after all the partnership Vita shares with him, it's quite sad T-T), so i hope that Signum's AEC equpement don't be a sword or substitutes Laevatein(but i accept a Laevatein's upgrade, all he need is a reinforcement or protection to avoid being "cracked", after all, Singum was dominating the fight until he breaks and prove to still being a badass weapon xD!), maybe a supporting weapon would be nice(like Subaru's AEC "Sword Breaker" that's a gauntlet placed on her left arm oppossing Revolver Knuckle), or and upgrade to her overall armor or speed, she alredy has the strenght and skill to deal with them she only needs the means to bypass those pesky "Game Breaker" abilities, but over all of things, i hope Tsuzuki find a way to give Signum her upgrades wothiut making Agito completely useless, she's awesome on her own right and deserves to show that she's a very capable Unison Device and partner.
Finally, after much toght, i came to the conclusion that i like Signum anyway and that even if the events of FORCE 007 affect her status as a Badass Knight, i consider her to be one of the cooler(if not the coolest) characters on the entire franchise, i hope they don't alter much of her style with the new weapons("old fashioned knight" style RULES!!! xD) and i will waiting for her awakening and great comeback xD!
LONG LIVE TO THE BLAZING GENERAL!!!
P.D.- As a eminder of her awesomeness i've recently uploaded around 13 new iamges to the gallery xD!
i agree with most of wat u said. i believe when the author said that Signum had new equipment waiting for her i think she meant that there was a new part that hadn't been added to Laevatein yet. I don't think Raging Heart was reduced to a second role, i believe that was Nanoha just testing out some other type of equipment. The author wud not be as stupid as to reduce Ragin Heart to a second position....
i believe that the main reason the author cannot get rid of Signum is because Signum has too much of a major role this time round n her comeback wud be a stunning firework display. i also believe that the one to kill Cypha wud be Signum because that way the story wud have reached its peak and this wud be the most long awaited battle to be witnessed. ^^
Well, putting sour feelings aside, i finally came back on-topic and starts to wonder: how Signum's AEC-Equipement is gonna like to be?
various things are commented, someones thinks it would be a new sword that, alongside Laevatein, will make her a
personally i don't like it(don't get me wrong, dual wielders are cool, it's only that it simply does not go with Signum's Knight-y style), other people said that it would be an armor or some sort of "speed enhacing" boost(i like this one but again the kicker is to show a new weapon) and the like.
then i've started to thinkin on a some sort of companion or complement to Laevatein(like a dagger or something), because i like Laevatein and it's just cool, but seeing how things are going this is very unlikely(as we see Laevatein's problen when dealing with "reacted" people XP). So i discarded that and thinks more on a new "frame" or "blade" for Laevatein that allows him to attack the huckies's skin without cracking like a cookie, but again, this is also very unlikely to happen. So if it's unavoidable that Signum gets an actual new weapon(as much as i love Laevatein i must adsmit that this is the most probable outcome) i start wondering on what type of a weapon suits her better, first we have the problem that AEC wepons can't defy "Lawws of mass conservation" like normal devices can(the absurdly lenght of Laevatein's Schlangenform came to mind), that means she's most likely bound to a single type of weapon(maybe the chain-sword is included but with much more limited range) and even when she's also a capable Archer it will be very unlikely to seeing Signum receiving a bow and go Legolas over Cypha xDU. She's recognized for being a damn good swordsman(well... swordswoman), and it's almost take for sure that she's going to receive a sword.
So finally decided to think on this new sword i came with two probable targets_
* Badass samurai longsword, albeit she's a Knight, she also have a very samurai-ish code of honor and behavior so it might fits well with her(that and the fact that if Tsuzuki plans on give her more similarities with Lamia he maybe decide to use her second mecha, the Vaysaga, as the model, and that big guy have a long, crimson bladed, samurai sword).
* Claymore like sword, following Laevatein's vibe, Signum may reappear wielding a bigger and badder sword ti rip apart the evil in half, if this is the case i hope there's big but not colossal(that departement belongs to Fate and Bardiche), just slightly bigger or longer than Laevatein would work(As Signum, as of her
tendencies, is still more a Knight than a Berserker, and that spot belongs to Vita) for her style.
Now in wonder how her new attacks are going to be, since she's capable to instantly produce fire, maybe her new sword can channel the flames without being affected by the "zero effect" i just wait for some epic to happen.
about AEC equips in general, at first i was very biased, in reality i found Strike Cannon interesting, Sword Breaker looks like a fine complement to Subaru's arsenal ....but Vita's War Hammer ...ugh, i don't know why but i simply don't like it's design, i mean, they're the new toys of the franchise and it mrant to look cool and menacing. Strike Cannon looks very threatening, Sword Breaker don't show much but fits well with Subaru's other equipemnt and in compensation don't take the spotlight away from Revolver Knuckle and Mach Caliber, i like that, War Hammer just ...looks ...weird, seeshh...Graf Eisen looks more powerfull and threatening by a wide margin.
Well, what theories do you have about our beloved Blazing General's new wepons and attacks?
P.D.- i swear that if Tsuzuki ever dares to give Signum something that ingludes a trigger and lacks a sharp blade i would go ballistic and prepare a fanboy rant of EPIC proportions ......WITH GRACE!! xD
i agree with you completely but somehow i thought the new AEC equipment was like an upgraded version of the original devices, like Eisan getting a super duper upgrade. Signum wud neve discard Laevatein though so that's why i thought the AEC is an upgrade system.... hope is a small glimmer that it may be an upgrade system but still hope is hope..... i thought that was raging heart Nanoha was using!! an I thought Vita was holding Eisan.... i really hope so... but with new weapons n upgrades means new spells!!!
Sorry to inform that AEC. Equipem are all new weapons alltogheter, and even when Vita and Nanoha still shout their attacks, they're not spells, it's just a fancy way of "pulling the trigger", Strike Cannon replaces Raising Heart and War Hammer replaces Graf Eisen(altough, RH received the "standalone flight mode" that allowes her to fly and keeping supporting Nanoha but as far a we know she will be relegated to support role because none of her powers are of any offensive use against the Huckebein, but still can help with other duties like searching, analysis, ditraction, still a sad destiny for a so legendary weapon).
With the introduction of the experimental 5th generation devices my hopes are a little more high on Laevatein's behalf, all of the description of the requirements to use said technology suggest that Signum is an aptly candidate, and Laevatein was recently destroyed so, aplying common sense, it would be pointless to just repair Laevatein as the same he's before because it would be of no help against the current and future enemies.
the only thing that is keeping me form fully have hope on this(apart of the fact that apparently Agito has been ditched by the author by making Unison devices efectively useless) is the fact that Vita somehow insinuates that Signum has her own AEC- Equpement in developement stage, and ....unless Tsuzuki is thinking of giving her BOTH the 5th generation upgrade on Laevatein and the AEC weapon, i think that she's gonna use the AEC and Laevatein would be on a hiatus for some time xP.
P.D.- thinkin further i have a good theory, she use first her AEC and gets damaged/destroyed, and T_HEN she unleashes the upgraded Laevatein xD.
Seh's stop to be ultra-awesome but at least she's gonna keep the coolnes i hope.
i agree with you about the awesomeness and as i have just discovered, the AEC equipment is not a magical device... they are in fact mass based weaponry designed specially for the purpose of taking on the Huckebeins I suppose because on normal standards, the TSAB bans massed based weaponry... i suppose Vita's AEC looks awesome but I'm having trouble trying to guess what Signum's one will look like, probably even more awesome!!!!
Each one have their own likes i guess. Personally i find War Hammer's look uhm... weird, it don't look exatcly like, ya'know a hammer(more like a missile on a stick xDU). I found more charmly Eisen's design, War Hammers just looks frail in comparission xDU.
Back on topic, Erio receives a spare Strike Cannon, so i hope they don't give Signum some sort of cannon or gun, and if they do, at least i expect some disgust from her part for being in the need to use such a "simple" weapon. AEC don't mix well with all the action spells we are viewed before so i really hope that Laevatein receives the 5th generation tratement that allows Signum to fight on her own style.
yea, i totally agree. her AEC weapon needs to be malleable and suited to her fighting style or else it'll be all for naught...
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