Sol, children are always able to give parents "something in return".

I fear that you're starting to make the exact same mistake that I'm inclined to attribute to a certain subsection of the Japanese people - You are viewing love reciprocity and close relationship bonds through a sexual/romantic lens alone. I find this a very disturbing, and frankly rather narrow, understanding of human relationships and love itself.

Filial love is a perfectly legitimate and real form of love. It can be every bit as strong as romantic love, in an overall sense. It brings potential rewards with it every bit as great as romantic love. This is why many of us are getting joy from watching Usagi Drop. In how it portrays the bond between father figure/adopted child as we see with Daikichi and Rin.

You say that Rin is "mature for her age". Nonetheless, we're talking about a five year old girl here. No real life girl of that age is so mature that she'd fail to perceive an adult that looks after and cares for her from kindergarten to completion of high school as a parental figure.

Am I saying that Rin's character is highly unrealistic? Well, going by the manga taken as a whole, yes, I am. That's one of the reasons why I highly dislike the manga ending. If not for it, Rin's character would be a bit of a stretch (even some anime-only watchers have argued that), but at least she'd be somewhat plausible.

My point is that in the Usagi Drop anime/manga first half alone, we can reasonably attribute Rin's insistence to not call Daikichi her father to her being a stickler for semantics and biological accuracy. But the Usagi Drop manga's second half suggests that it is more insidious than that. That Rin's insistence to not call Daikichi her father is there to help pave the wave for a manga ending that violates the implicit parent-child relationship by developing a highly unrealistic relationship change/formation.


Now, I don't deny that Daikichi's decision to care for Rin is based on empathy rather than an inherent desire to be a parent. But then, that's true of many real life parents. For example, when a couple chooses to keep a child rather than abort that unborn child in spite of feeling wholly unprepared for parenthood. For such parents (particularly those with a strong moral objection to abortion) this decision is rooted much more in empathy for the unborn child than in a desire for parenthood.

But whatever caused an adult caregiver-child relationship to form in the first place does not change the fact that a decade or more of raising a very young child is going to naturally result in a firm parent/child relationship and paradigm for adult caregiver and child alike. It will have the Westermarck effect that you yourself referred to.

Furthermore, no man who raised a girl from the age of 5 to 15 is going to find it easy or "natural" to perceive her through the lens of sexual desire. Aside from pedophiles, anyway, and I see no indication whatsoever that Daikichi is a pedophile.

Now, to address the point of your last few sentences: One of the best ways to appeal to a minority is by attacking the much more accepted majority position. Usagi Drop spends so much time developing a "socio-normative" alternative precisely because those with bizarre sexual proclivities may well take joy in seeing those smashed. For them, the emotional effect of Usagi Drop spending much time building up a "socio-normative" alternative, only to bring it crashing down, would be akin to the emotional effect of a Superman fan watching Lex Luthor totally dominate him for 5 comic book issues of conflict only for Superman to arise victorious in a moment of supreme catharsis in concluding Part 6.

One observation I can't help but make: You yourself seem to view "socio-normative" in an entirely negative light. Just because something is a cultural or social norm doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad, or harmful to people. Often, those cultural and social norms exist for good reason, and are generally helpful to society.


One final note: If you wish to continue this discussion, please move it to PMs. Should this discussion go further, it will likely become an increasingly "hot button issue" (to borrow a political phrase), and that's not something I want on an even semi-public venue like your VM wall and mine.

No, their resulting romantic relationship is not a perfectly natural one. I am very strongly opposed to it, and I'm going to explain the most objective reasons I currently have for why.


In fairness to you, I now do think that Rin's refusal to call Daikichi her "father" is a deliberate attempt on the mangaka's part to try to set the stage for her eventual romance with him after the time-skip.

However, it's this element that's also one of the most unrealistic elements of Usagi Drop's narrative. Insofar as this is a mere technicality in their relationship - A case of Rin being a stickler for semantics and biological accuracy - It is dismissible. But when it sets the stage for a wholly unrealistic relationship change/formation, then it becomes highly problematic.


If you were to take any real life five year old girl who has been abandoned, and put her under the care of a good, loving single man for the next 10 to 15 years of her life, she would eventually come to see that man as her father (even if she did not call him that explicitly). Or, at the very least, as a second father or an "Uncle" figure (if she was exceptionally attached to her biological father, as Rin was).

The Usagi Drop manga is only able to make the argument that you're (perhaps rightly) assigning to it because it is being wildly, and likely deliberately, unrealistic in this area.

And it's because it is very unrealistic that it fails as a practical thematic point.

After all, if there is anything that should be "realistic", it is something that is held to be "natural". Indeed, the two words are very nearly synonyms of one another.


The Usagi Drop manga ending is sadly a case of catering to bizarre sexual proclivities, and shoehorning that into the narrative in a way that sadly detracts greatly from otherwise impressive realism. Perhaps you do not agree, but I think there is some real value in portraying a caring man who rescues an abandoned girl, and develops a close parent/child bond with her over time, through all the trials and turmoil that this may entail. This is something of practical value that many people can appreciate.


I'm skipping your points pertaining to gender issues because there are many better and more realistic ways to portray an empowered woman in a romantic relationship than this. So I do not believe that feminist ideals alone (or even primarily) is what is behind the mangaka's decision to end the Usagi Drop manga the way it was.

To be brutally frank, my feeling is that the ending of the Usagi Drop manga is just another case of an anime, manga, VN, or LN catering to the bizarre sexual proclivities of its core fanbase.

Part of me can't help but wonder if a large chunk of the Japanese people are even able to distinguish between the various types of love anymore. It's like this subsection of the Japanese people think that virtually every type of love should naturally lead to sex.

I honestly find it very disturbing, as I think it represents a real failure to understand and appreciate the different types of love. And I mean, this should be basic stuff, that comes naturally to all human beings. It honestly disturbs me how anime seems entirely incapable of portraying a normal, healthy sibling relationship anymore, for example. Everything is given a sexual tint.


Now, if we dismiss the Usagi Drop manga ending, what we're left with is a deeply refreshing and heartwarming case of a familial relationship played out realistically for a change. It becomes something that anybody can appreciate, and find value in. A commentary on parenthood, particularly single parenthood, and the pros and cons which this entails.


Honestly, we're far beyond the point now of when an incest story is "daring" or "provocative". If we weren't, I could see your point. But honestly, there's too much of it now. I'm not exactly desensitized to it, but it's more of an eye-rolling thing for me now than a "really stand up and take notice" sort of thing.