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Today 22:34KrimzonStrikerI figured, but that's not what I meant. I literally mean the option to recruit him was not there in this one persons video here, at the 27:00 mark unlike in the others I've seen (like this one) when he did the sentencing. Maybe it's just a bug, or you need to do more side-quests/recruit more people, who knows....
Cool cool, also make sure that not just the major companions but that you talk to all the available NPC characters. Fiona for one of course, but Mother Giselle seems to have some fascinating dialog information. Huh, something weird I just noted in this video but a quest dialog and other questions disappear if you ask her "How are the people" at the 2:31 mark. Maybe if you exit the conversation and try talking to her again you'll get them back? Something to watch out for and maybe ask her at the very end because 1. you want that quest and 2. I really want to know some information like who will be the next Divine etc.
Edit: New request regarding when you ask Cassandra about the Seekers and why they rebelled and then note she disagreed with it and after she recounts what happened at Kirkwall choose the option "You care deeply about it". I know saying "I agree" will net approval but I'd like to see extra dialog since Cassandra just devolves into the generic merged dialog all the responses get eventually right away rather then elaborating with more info.
Second Edit: In regards to that first point do NOT make the same mistakes this person does, he cuts off his dialog tree by asking new questions mid-way before finishing the whole conversation in asking the question that appears on the upper left side of the wheel. Check my comments below to see which ones I'm talking about, I'm Cptigris125.
Third Edit: Oh cool, beginning of the Cassandra romance is out. Am not digging the Worf american voice though. Let's see go with "Should I stop?", "Why is it impossible?", ask the question "I'm surprised", and then finish up with "I'd like to try".
Today 18:53KrimzonStrikerLet him live? You can't sentence him if he doesn't live. I guess that means go with the positive/reassuring answer after you beat him then, we'll see.
Oh, follow up on Varric after you say "Too many people died" and then after you ask him why he's staying go with "It all hasn't sunk in yet"
Edit: Gah, I know this is confusing putting all these tidbits together but during your first dialog choice when you walk in to meet Cassandra talking to the Chancellor of the Chantry say "I did what I could", gets you slight approval from her. Then of course go "Blessed be the Maker" and after you ask your investigative questions end with "I want to help".
I figured, I'm trying to look at her personal conversations and other places to keep her approval up that way after you take the hit there. Don't be too 'mages should be free' in any event, stick to a moderate approach even if you disagree with her, balancing the concerns about freedom for mages and security against them as best you can and working towards a steady sort of reform. Here's some stuff in her personal conversation after you recruit the mages, say "Keep them Hidden".... huh, okay this is probably going to get you some disapproval but follow up on the dialog choice by asking "Do you pose a risk?", I'm curious as to her response given her superior attitude towards other mages without consideration on how she herself would be regarded in turn. I'm not sure on the third option given that "Vasoth" thing, I wonder if its different if your a non-mage human noble, but if there's nothing there go with "Tevinter doesn't think so" since like before I'm curious as to her response on examples that contradict her views without hopefully being too offensive... but do go on the last option "We need mages in the Chantry", giving them a political say does strike me as a type of progressive reformer on the relationship with magic that our character is shaping up to be.
EDIT: Solas is pretty simple, at least in his first conversation, based on this walkthrough, go near the end of this video and you should get a straightforward path of maximizing his approval at least.
Today 17:33KrimzonStrikerHey, does the guide show how to get all judgements options available? I recently saw footage of a judgement of Alexius before which gave you the option of recruiting him as an agent but in another it wasn't available. I'd think getting assets like that would be important/warranted from the guide, don't you?
Edit: Okay, here's something new and to avoid. When you ask Varric to tell you about Hawke do NOT ask the question about the fate of Orsino. You get disapproval from it <_< Also, avoid asking questions about Bianca until your approval/relationship is better, like with Cassandra's brother I do want to see if he opens up later about it. Oh and when you first talk to him and he asks how you feel go with the "Too many people died" option, gets you slight approval.
Huh, turns out your quatermaster served under Loghain, when she reveals that go with the middle option of "That's an unpopular opinion", already heard the one saying he was a traitor and all she does is blow up about it.
Today 13:28KrimzonStrikerNo worries. It's giving me time to sort through various paths and other walkthroughs. Ah, then just follow my posts as I put them up then. And I figure, gah I'm going to have to sort through other walkthroughs for private and minor dialog choices to better squeeze out as much approval from all of them as possible to buffer against the backlash of the inevitably divisive big decisions. Gotta track Vivienne's after offering the mages a full alliance now. Be sure to have Blackwall and Varric as your part members for that scene btw to make sure you get their approval.
There IS a Skyhold recruitment scene for Cole after you get him so that might be it, though perhaps your approval with him also has to increase. In any event In regards to the Cassandra romance be careful when you get to the love scene, set all the age filters and stuff but maybe tweak with a slightly higher lighting to get past the censors. At worst maybe upload that specific part up on dailymotion? In any event once you become intimate with Cassandra can you re-ask the investigation question about herself, regarding her brother, she seems reluctant at first and I'm curious if that changes when you become closer. Also make sure to take her to dance at the Winter Ball
Edit: Oh, uhh, during the romance scene itself I'd go "No room for fun?" then "You don't like it?" then "Which do you believe?" and finally "I love you"
Oh, human noble conversation origins are up here . Go first the "Curious about the Trevalyans?", "Yes, they're very religious", "I'd call us disorganized" (Normally I'd say the "we're a puzzle" option but some variety is called for since we already see this option plus you are a critical/progressive thinker who advocates order and there's some merit to a more centralized Free Marches) And then either "How do you find it" (If that isn't a romance option but a question) and then "At least the isolations safe" . In your second Haven conversation with Josephine about your origins say "I enjoyed my freedom" since we want you to be a progressive believer after all that shares Cassandra's disdain for unnecessary pomp and ceremony over effective action even if you do know how to play the political game (part of that Free Marchers attitude and part of your determination not to rely solely on your title and privileges).
Edit: Oh, in regards to if anyone actually asks if your the Herald say "I don't know" cause really despite the character being a believer he shouldn't be big-headed and unthinking in his faith to assume that's the case. Except when Cullen first asks and lets you know you're being regarded as the Herald, then choose "It's unnerving" which it is since this is more of an opinion of how other regard you rather then your own opinion on being the Herald itself.
Edit: Oh and err, go with "You think I did it" for your first response. It feels more natural in the flow of the conversation.
No prob, can't wait to see what all the big options are.
Damn straight, Doom's sold it well afterall given he's one of the most popular and controversial villains between his surety of purpose and arrogant certainty combined with the contrast of being both a benevolent ruler and a megalomaniacal tyrant, the dynamic makes him so intriguing especially in how others try to deal with him.
Yesterday 21:01KrimzonStrikerOkay... this is new, I've been seeing this video going around involving Cassandra, but this is the first time I've seen this part but COLE somehow got involved in this scene when previously he hadn't shown up... any idea in the guide on how to add him?
Edit: Saw the final result for the Cassandra romance. It was sweet and rather funny in a cheesy way. I'll wait to see if more videos with different responses show up before settling on the right order. Make sure to set an age filter on YouTube for it, it's a bit graphic nudity wise and I'd hate to see the scene ruined with censors.
Also, they've basically committed media suicide with this nonsense about Doom......<_<
2014-11-18 23:44KrimzonStrikerAlso let me know ahead of time regarding some big decisions in the future, like of for example you can pick the next Divine of the next leader of Orlais, etc. I've got some opinions based on some of the spoilers I've read. Speaking of Orlais and the Chantry after that scene where the Templars punch out the reverend mother and then denounce the Chantry, when you go up to talk to her while she's still recovering down on the ground, ask your investigative questions first of course but for your final end response pick the one that says "We can still work together" I'm curious as to what her reaction to that proposal now will be. Oh and when you go to negotiate getting the mages on your side for the final time choose the option of including Fiona in the discussion, while also questioning what the Venatori are. Also this approval rating really confuses me. I think just to be on the safe side make sure to take Varric and Blackwall as your immediate companions for the mission in order to ensure you get their approval (especially Varric). And finally when you offer the mages a full alliance and then your advisors are all arguing about it please choose the 'Consider this their probation' option, I'm curious to see if that does anything to alleviate some of their concerns. Oh and make sure you do whatever side-quests you need to do in order to ensure a supply of lyrium to close the breach with the mages afterwards, that might be important.
Also, video's out with Morrigan and her Warden son. Let's just say it validates all my feelings in picking her as my Origin romance. Let me know just before you start a conversation with her. There are one or two different dialogue choices I'd like you to ask Morrigan from the video I recently saw. I'll post it here but it contains some spoilers so I'd avoid clicking on the link until at least when you actually meet Morrigan for the first time, then I'll fill you in on the variation choices you might want to make to get some other response/elaboration in her part.
Edit: Okay, I thought about it and I suppose these aren't too spoiler-ish. On your first response choose the comment that "He's a bit...odd" regarding Morrigan's son (which he is btw) and then choose the "You have a husband?' option for the second. You don't really need too on the second one given the Warden and Morrigan probably aren't married but it'd be funny to see her reaction
Oh, forgot to add one more thing. Saw the default name of the male human and Maxwell as a first name is just too gaudy, plus I 'm getting too many flashes of Xillia thinking about it so can you change the name to Marcus instead. Combined with the last name it sounds similar to the great Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Edit: Saw some new scenes that'll net you more approval from Cassandra. When offered the role of Inquisitor select "I'm honored" and then choose "I fight for order, not faith". I generally think those answers the most in keeping with what the character would be feeling at that time. Generally speaking if anyone asks if you are the Herald then you should answer truthfully, you don't know for certain, which balances your flexible mindset with your faith/convictions as well. Oh and in the scene prior to that when Mother Giselle is consoling you after the confrontation with the Elder One could you select "I believe, but is that enough" or "We need more then faith". The latter I already saw on the first playlist I gave you and liked as a response for the Inquisitor we're putting together but I am curious what the former response says as well so if possible go with the "I believe" option. Oh, but do remember to ask the investigate questions of her first of course.
Edit: Oh cool, after you get Skyhold you can talk to Fiona. A few hints here and there about Alistair Stay in character though and just say "mages are useful" when the option shows up. No need to go all full approval on the rebellion, they did make a serious if understandable mistake with Tevinter after all.
Edit: Okay seriously, is there anyway to remove that hat off Cole, it gets distracting really fast in his cutscenes...<_<
2014-11-18 23:40KrimzonStrikerDang, over the limit, breaking this up into two parts
And it won't cost you anything to do so either accept her disapproval, so why not just give it up. They're be big character decisions you'll have to make at some point which is going to inevitably take a hit with Cassandra's approval, so avoid losing any or not making it up on non-important decisions when you can.
Hopefully some of them dessert, but I think you should go with siding with the mages, the demos by the devs all showed off that questline for example and I looked into the reasons. Cassandra and some others won't be happy if you give a full Alliance to the mages though others will approve (make sure to bring Varric along for that mission) but it feels too tyrannical if you conscript them so we'll just have to live with it. Plus I looked into the Templar siding quest, and while the mages were clearly making a mistake it was one they recognized and born out of simple desperation, the Templar's are just stupid and too full of their own self-righteousness to see their downfall, this means you won't be able to stop their conversion and have to face them as Red Templar's but I'm of the opinion they truly brought that on themselves.
That's cool then, so feel free to side with the mages in this one, lord knows we've done that already and we'll be helping Alistair/Anora/Ferelden by doing so, not to mention Bethany and Conner and so many others we saved in the past most likely. Is the guide complete in terms of what nets you approval and disapproval from what dialogue choices you make, even in personal conversations at Skyhold? Does it provide a clear road-map to make sure you get the romance with Cassandra? Cause I can tell you, those tricky dialogue balances . Along with her faith going for the direct approach works as well, always have her present while you ask people to join the Inquisition, or choose her special dialogue options to convince them to do so over the other characters, like this chantry sister was also doubling as a smuggler, don't go with Varric's option over hers, she disapproves of Varric's choice of words to convince said smuggler/sister to join whereas Varric doesn't seem to care if you do pick Cassandra's option over his in that case, little things like that. In the personal dialogue conversations as well when you investigate to get more backstory, like asking her about herself, do NOT hit the first flirt option, she'll disapprove, instead go for the "Just trying to be friendly" one instead, do hit the Second Flirt option saying she's delightful however. It's confusing I know. Let me know if the guide has all the approval ratings for the personal conversations, otherwise I'll insert more tips when I find them. Such as when she asks if you consider the Free Marches Home say "wherever I am is home" from approval. Or like in the investigation question where you ask her about the Seekers you'll eventually ask why the Seekers/Templars rebelled against the Chantry, go for the "I understand how you feel" or the "I agree with you" options depending on which one the guide or you might think gets you approval, don't hit anywhere near the "mages were oppressed option". Oh and if you ask what the Vigil is say "It sounds wonderful" after Cassandra explains, appeal to that religious side one more time. Some of the characters like Vivienne need a bit more finesse to work around for example, too many things she would approve of are a bit too harsh, so you'll need to be sneaky and find practical compromises that can appeal to her while still staying in character without coming off as conservative and belligerent as she is. I have no doubt Sera will also come with her own headaches as well.
In the meantime I'll keep sniffing around for anything useful to add on the net. Again let me know if you think the guide is sufficient conversation/decision wise, it feels like you're going to be walking a tight-rope to keep everyone on the same page without being a total a-hole in some cases, so I just want to make sure you're fully set and won't walk into any unnecessary pitfalls, lord knows you're going to piss some companions off during the big decisions regardless so best avoid saying the wrong thing to them in private.
2014-11-18 23:33KrimzonStrikerNo prob. Just keep me updated on how things progress on that end.
True. Indeed she is, no idea what her end goal is though. I hear that, at most the harem routes probably our only option but we'll see, treating her more then just a background character would be nice. Amen, Saber is technically the flagship character after all.
Yep, maturity, grace, understanding, and a firm set of convictions should be the end goal depiction, though don't be afraid to joke or have fun when it seems appropriate like during this card game scene I recently saw between you and many other companions. Sure, likely most of them will be fine but after seeing some of the demo/walkthrough vids I am curious as to how some responses (non-important ones) here and there would have gone. Definitely been a plus from what I've seen of the combat thus far. As did I though the story could have been more involved, I would have liked for a much deeper exploration of the hinted feelings from Amita for example, though Pagan Min is quite a fun if still horrible man I saw its ending but it's only a superficial connection, it's never revisited again despite its semi-influence on Arno. On a positive note I do like Napoleon being Arno's best friend now
Yeah, given he's got Ryouko, Megumi, and Shun that's a bit of a brain-trust he's working with to figure this one out, but one more chapter could do it, should find out this week in any event. Well I always felt Fairy Tail was a bit funky that way animation wise as well but it's still ongoing so hopefully things turn out alright. Indeed, well it's a bit away so until the next promo comes best put it out of our minds, hope we see the other characters as well at some point. Well, it'll be interesting to see what transpires with Toph now to say the least. It'd be interesting if they did but I figure they're just going to disassemble and break it up to form smaller weapons on a mass produced scale to spread throughout the army. Well there'd be no drama if they did care and were inclined not to use it. I think it's supposed to be a symbol of loss and regret to really drive the emotional anguish into the audience while emphasizing what's at stake through that personal connection we all have with the tree. Only time will tell, I'm inclined to say yes and not in a good way for those spirits. True that. It did have a bit of a "Hail Hydra" moment to it didn't it?
2014-11-18 10:44KrimzonStrikerOkay, I'm looking at some of these dang missions regarding recruiting the mages versus the Templars. Go with the mages since from the looks of it that's the only way to get you Dorian (plus I like them better then Templars anyway).
Edit: Okay, the whole Dorian/Cole recruitment thing is confusing me, but I'd still go with the mages. At least the Cassandra approval/disapproval will be consistent unlike the Templars where apparently she disapproves if you disband the order but voice that she agreed with you in a later dialogue <_< Seriously, you're going to need to walk a fine balancing act to be tolerant and still get Cassandra's romance done it seems. To start off choose the "you must choose soon" option when discussing whether to side with the Templars or mages. And gradually start taking on this mantle of being the Herald just in case, she is religious after all.
2014-11-17 21:35KrimzonStrikerHmm, some conversation options I'm noticing in these demos I'd like to see in the beginning would be the Inquisitor showing remorse for all the people that died in the first conversation wheel, and in the second agreeing to disarm for Cassandra since that would likely increase her approval. Think that would be good?
Freaking heck, look at this video, this Templar commander is an a-hole, don't bother reasoning with him, try the option of appealing to the Templar members directly to join you like Cullen did instead. Cassandra's right in that we have to cause doubt among the orders more open-minded.
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