Oh, you meant that...weren't those called doujinshi? I was under the impression that doujin=indie, so when you said you'd seen all that is needed from doujin material, I thought you were referring to quality (non-H) artwork (so I was like - how could he have possibly seen "too much" of that? ). Also, in case we misunderstood each other - when I said "those guys are nuts", that applied to their aptness in creating incredibly detailed fancy art, not pervertedness. I just ignore that stuff...you didn't really think I'd spend hours browsing loli doujinshi art or something?
It may be the weaboo in me talking but I reckon pixiv has more upper tier material than dA. Don't really remember seeing that much stuff that made me wow on the latter (and I hadn't always known about pixiv). Plus it has a cuter interface. More cumbersome, but fun.
What do you mean? You've spent a lot of time browsing pixiv or were you referring to some artbooks or such?