AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Members List


0utf0xZer0 0utf0xZer0 is offline

Pretentious moe scholar

Visitor Messages

Showing Visitor Messages 201 to 210 of 1015
  1. Pocari_Sweat
    2014-01-12 06:29
    Downloaded the episode to determine what you were talking about .

    To be honest, I thought it was meh. The girl was too overy-cutesy, the song too high-pitched and squeaky... it's not something that is suited for my tastes unfortunately. As for the rest of the show... it's a poor man's version of Silver Spoon. And I don't even like Silver Spoon that much...
  2. Pocari_Sweat
    2014-01-12 03:57
    If you watched the WUG movie and didn't like it then I can't convince you since I thought that was slightly better than the first episode of the TV series.
  3. Pocari_Sweat
    2014-01-12 03:17
    Looks like we're in complete opposite this season. Somewhat rare .

    Nisekoi I'm entertained because of Shaft style which otherwise is a incredibly generic premise. But the wacky directing actually makes it entertaining and unlike some other shows I've seen with the same style, it has no pretention (trying to be more deep and clever than it is) so it's tolerable if not somewhat likable.

    Wake up Girls I'm enjoying straight out. I watched the 1h prequel OVA beforehand which btw if you haven't is essential to watch prior to the TV episode 1 as it is not just some sidestory, and I have a feeling it's going to be more about the social commentary on how "fucked up" the idol industry is alongside the dance scenes and the lot. Not to mention, Mayu, one of the main characters (if not the main) reminds me of Wakana from Tari Tari, and the whole bad history with Mayu's previous idol group is similar to Wakana's bad history with music due to her mother. Not to mention they have similar personalities and how the plot is progressing out is actually somewhat too. Anything that reminds me of Tari Tari is a very good thing in my books.
  4. Pocari_Sweat
    2014-01-12 02:15
    So this season, I took a liking to Wake up Girls and Nisekoi... Wtf is wrong with me? I blame the season for being an absolute stinker
  5. Pocari_Sweat
    2014-01-10 01:52
    This might come as a surprise... but Nagi no Asu Kara may have me sold from this 2nd cour.
  6. Pocari_Sweat
    2014-01-05 03:26
    Curious but have you watched Little Busters/Refrain?
  7. Triple_R
    2014-01-02 07:57
    I get what you're saying, I just can't help but think the new Rozen Maiden would have sold five times as much if it came out in 2008 or 2009. Really.
    You could very well be right about that. The popularity of the characters at the time would have made up for anything else.


    Second, if your theory is correct, I think it's the bleakness of the stories in Rozen Maiden and Watamote that give them this hard hitting quality and can drive off audiences. Otherwise... I realize Oreki is essentially an "anti-otaku" in outlook, but he did prove you can go deep into the headspace of a loner and get decent sales if your show is a little warmer in tone (it's not just a matter of romance... Rozen Maiden 2013 hinted at one too). Hence, I don't think you should really be trying to extend it to cover things like Sakurasou.
    Part of the reason why I added in Sakurasou is that it's lack of success is surprising to me, and I'm trying to determine what caused it. There honestly hasn't been that many great romances in anime lately, and Sakurasou had a pretty strong one (also one of the stronger "alternate possibility" romances). Mashiro is also very popular in moe competitions, so, yeah, Sakurasou's lack of commercial success is surprising to me.


    (Note, BTW, that the anime fandom has sometimes gotten behind extremely bleak stories about loners in the past. Hatedom aside, Evangelion alone proves that. But I think popular shows at the moment suggest this is no longer the "in" thing.)
    Agreed. Most of this is cyclical.
  8. Pocari_Sweat
    2014-01-02 01:40
    Check your PM.
  9. Triple_R
    2014-01-01 21:14
    With Sakurasou, I think it's most of the major characters, not just Ryuunosuke. You already mentioned Mashiro, but there's also how Sorata's dream is to become a video game-maker. That's pretty otaku-ish.

    As for a popular male otaku character - Well, there was Keima in KamiNomi. That show was somewhat popular, IIRC. Keima is strictly a VN otaku, of course, but that might still be enough for some viewers.

    What I've seen in recent years is a bit of a drift away from "Yuji Everyleads" that are just total Joe Averages, and towards characters that are a bit more otaku-ish in their passions and/or hobbies and/or personalities. I don't necessarily think this is good or bad (Yuji Everyleads aren't often memorable, of course), but I do find it interesting in any event.

    And I think this approach can work if you glamorize it a bit, or make it colorfully "over-the-top" (as we see with Ore no Imouto and KamiNomi), but if you play it very straight; if you play it very realistic; I think it can hit a bit too close to home.

    With Jun in Rozen Maiden, I think the writers did a great job of capturing a "nerdy" and somewhat reclusive young adult male that's a bit down on his luck career-wise, school-wise, friendship-wise, and romance-wise. For otakus going through hard times of their own in RL, it probably uncomfortably hits home pretty hard. I have to admit that even I myself felt a bit uncomfortable when I noticed some of my own weaknesses reflected in Jun. This makes for great writing, but it can also be a bit uncomfortable for some viewers.

    Anyway, it's just an idea I had. It might be more accurate to say that anime is more likely to succeed sales-wise if there's a layer of detachment between what it presents, and actual reality. In others, it helps to be a bit idealized, or a bit escapist, or a bit fantastical.
  10. Triple_R
    2013-12-31 23:37
    About the sales struggles of Outbreak Company, Watamote, Rozen Maiden, and Sakurasou...

    I think these are all related. I think they all hit a bit too close to home (Jun in Rozen Maiden applies here).

    For awhile there, it seemed like many otakus wanted to watch shows for otakus, by otakus, and about otakus. But that last one might be changing.

    I think that the anime industry might have taken the wrong lesson from Ore no Imouto. Ore no Imouto somewhat glamorized the otaku lifestyle, but it also made the main otaku characters the female leads (Kirino and Kuroneko). So otaku see their tastes reaffirmed by characters with character designs that also appeal to their tastes. So it's the best of both worlds, in a sense. It also creates a level of detachment that may be comforting (along with a glamorization rather than a strictly realistic approach).

    But I don't think that otakus necessarily want to watch a story focused around a male otaku that's a fair and realistic representation of a real world otaku. I think that might be a bit discomforting to them. And honestly, I don't blame them. Not everybody likes staring in the mirror for a long-time, seeing their strengths (but also their warts) reflected back at them. We like it when people share our interests, but we don't necessarily just want to see ourselves reflected back at us.

    It's interesting that Samurai Flamenco is also struggling. Possibly for the same reason (a show all about a huge tokusatsu fan).

About Me

  • About 0utf0xZer0
    Vancouver, Canada
    Pretentious moe scholarship, computers, PC gaming, brainstorming fantasy novels, animal-eared girls
    PC Configuration
    Laptop: Thinkpad X120e, AMD E-350, 6GB RAM, 11.6 inch screen Desktop1: 2.4 ghz Core 2 Quad, 4GB RAM, HD4770 512MB Desktop 2: Phenom II X4 BE at 3.4ghz, 6GB RAM, 8800GTS 512MB
    Avatar & Signature
    Avatar: Mashiro Mito (Tayutama) Signature composition by Ganbaru, original work by an unknown artist
    Currently Watching
    EF: A Tale of Memories/Melodies
    Moon Phase
    Shin Sekai Yori
    Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu
    Wolf Children
    Detroit Metal City
    Madoka Magica
    Ikoku Meiro no Croisee
    Hanasaku Iroha
  • Signature

    Signature courtesy of Ganbaru.


Total Posts
Visitor Messages
General Information
  • Last Activity: Today 15:08
  • Join Date: 2006-10-23


Showing Friends 1 to 10 of 16

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 15:53.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.