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  1. Pocari_Sweat
    2012-03-19 05:21
    And I present you with two hilarious pics . I added them to the Mari Okada club thread.
  2. Undertaker
    2012-03-19 03:24
    Which is fine, and its the same as "does the opinion of the few really equals quality?"

    Again, I don't have problem with criticism as long as they states the it's their personal opinion. It's the ones that don't state the said criticism as opinion and don't offer their own reason that I have problem with. Even worse, some would even drop one-liner and which they claimed as fact that is simply not true.

    Again using the same AW thread as example, in earlier comments someone just mention that they can't stand Yoshino and how Yoshino is overrated and the example he gives are Guilty Crown (which is fine) and SEED Destiny. when others and me mentioned that he was only involved in a handle of episode, the dude disappeared.

    Another poster had problem with Yoshino because he "ruined" the anime adaption of Seikon no Qwaser. when people mentioned that he is the writer and creator for the manga as well, he disappeared.

    Those are the types of people that I have problem with. Is is really hard to just acknoledge that they didn't know or made a mistake? If they want they can even pick another of his work instead, but they don't. They just disappears...
  3. Ledgem
    2012-03-18 20:08
    Anime (and science fiction, fantasy in general) is fiction, and we all know it. Sometimes they make everything up; other times they have a bit of reality as a base and then build up a lot of fantasy on it. I know this, and appreciate it. And before Steins;Gate, I never had a problem with it.

    But Steins;Gate just pushed the science domain too much. It wasn't just the fantasy science, but their drawing on the scientific community. It reminded me too much of my reality. The problem with that is that, the way I was trained (and the way all of the scientists around me behaved), is that you accept nothing and are skeptical of all claims. You're not out to tear everyone down, but the way that we go about the process, it certainly seems that way. A lot of my peers hated giving oral presentations, because they felt like the question and answer session was akin to going before a firing squad One of the post-docs I worked with warned me when I started that the skepticism ingrained into scientists from the training doesn't make them very popular, and it's certainly true! Already a few times my wife has gotten flustered with me as she recounted a news story or a presentation that she heard, and I would retort with questions and skeptical remarks. I have to remind myself to keep it to myself.

    Given all of that, here we had this character who's behaving like a jerk (IMO) and who is making all of these grandiose claims. The more grandiose the claim in science, the more people look to disprove you (unless it's too grandiose and clearly whacky, in which case you get ignored). With all of my scientific senses triggered, it was just too much to bear.

    And I also recall thinking to myself, "every single one of these characters should be on psychiatric medications" Almost all anime characters have weird, quirky behaviors, but it had been so long since I'd watched something that the mannerisms exhibited in Steins;Gate were difficult for me to watch. I had to slowly get back into anime with a series that had more normal-behaving characters.
  4. Ledgem
    2012-03-18 19:16
    Not at all, I welcome the comment

    I didn't watch the series beyond episode 1. What you're saying wouldn't be surprising, since a lot of anime series seem to deal with characters who have various insecurities. It was just unrelenting - I would have thought that they'd reveal it in some form or another that he was putting on a facade, but since they didn't, it just seemed to me as if that was the character. I'll reconsider the show once I've finished some of the others that I'm currently watching.
  5. vansonbee
    2012-03-17 03:03
    Actually I meant this picture.

    Is that from panty and stocking too?
  6. Undertaker
    2012-03-16 05:15
    oh, I don't give a damn on neg reps nor the comment. I'm much more pissed that the dude is such a wimp that he, or she, left a provocative message and then runs away with tails in between the legs.

    As for the the people in that crowd comment, you'd be surprised if you read the through the Accel World thread. When the commercial argument was presented, suddenly people in those group just disappears. And it's a recurring theme all over the place and that pisses me off because I want to have a debate and exchange views, it's how you grow as fans and or even as a person.

    The ones that continues to argue are the rare ones that gives you civil discussion and states that it's their personal opinion to begin with. So in my mind they are not part of that group and I have the respect of the world for them even if I don't agree sometimes.

    As for the freedom of speech part, you're right, but in that case, they shouldn't making a post that questions why others feels the need to defend other people because it's the same thing that gives them the right to diss and critique people. (That's if assuming the one who left the message is the original poster of the question, but either way it was a cowardly action by gutless individual)

    I view is that if they aren't willing o get critique themselves, don't critique other people.
  7. vansonbee
    2012-03-16 00:19
    Hello who are those 2 in your avatars from?
  8. Undertaker
    2012-03-15 08:29
    I sure some of it must be the case, but is it really hard to type an extra word or even just a "IMO"?

    And like you said if they really have backing for it they can easily defend themselves and not just disappear out of sight.

    Really, like I said in the my post I'm not even a Yuuki fan and staff really don't really interest me too much other then been use as a tool for me judge how long I'll stay with a series before I drop.

    On offense, the trend I've seen is more that if they have tendency to offer solid backing they will usually talk back, or at worse leaving a short message that this is not their thing and be done with it and don't check back and they usually won't condamn a series when the only info we have is the staff and a 1-min prototype test footage.

    Heck you PM me and we are have a civil discussion, (sort of, since now it seem like I'm just venting off. )

    AW stated his case, and I agree with him somewhat and there are plenty of other posters who can't stop raving about Denpa Kanojo which I actually didn't like as adaption. (but loved it as LN)

    Granted, my personality is the type that if you rub me the wrong way and I'm gonna defend myself, and I'm tend to be more of a stats person where sales and polls/popularity means more to me than personal opinion, but I'm perfectly willing to accept or at least agree to disagree if they can back it up with "some" reason.

    But somehow I just feel there are not very many people like us who's fully willing to debate and defend and not just spit some shit out and call it a day.

    Hell, I got negative reputation points for that post of mine that we are discussing right now on my reason for defend Yoshino and Yuuki.

    The dude didn't even got the gut to leave his ID in the reason column and his only reason was "this is the dumbest possible answer with the dumbest possible reasons".

    And that's not even mentioning that there was no follow up posts on that, nor the PM conversation that we are having right now and it happens way more often than I can count.

    Last time I checked this is still a free country and just as people like him has freedom of speech to diss people, so do I.

    And that is really where I have a problem. The freaking Chunibyo crowd that is all over the freaking place who assume they know ACG and has the experience but they really don't.
  9. sa547
    2012-03-14 18:56
    BTW, I woke up this morning and someone slapped in a red mark. Ah, well... for some, the biggest fear about 0048 is that it could go the way of IM@S: Xenoglossia.

    In that case, I'll have to start wearing a fireproof suit should 0048 comes out.
  10. Undertaker
    2012-03-14 15:27
    Agree on Jeter. Let's get this out first.

    As for popularity, some poster already posted before on how Yuuki is one of the most followed male VA and constantly rank in front on poll, which is evident enough.

    and while popularity and be interpreted by sales along. The fact most of Yoshino's projects sold well showed that he's work is at least popular.

    Winning award is also undeniable fact. You have various works/people compete for that award, yet they are the ones that win. And it the only way those working in entertainment field can get acknowledged for quality and not popularity (sales).

    It one thing if you are saying that awards are not valid because they are still based on 3rd party factors. Which is fine, but it is still the best way for acknowledge quality in those fields.

    Put it this way, winning titles in sports can still be argued about it legitimacy. There are enough incident where a change of call can impact the outcome and the team/player that won titles are not really the best player/team that year.

    In Yankee's case it can be argued that Yankee's success are mainly because of their market they are in and money they are willing to spend and and other outside factors as well and not really the team or the franchise but more of the market and structure of the Major League.

    Really, what is the most important thing on making anime? or any ACG for that matter? It's making the project appeal to others (popularity) so it can make money(sales).

    To that point, the few people that keep dissing Yoshino has yet to offer any reason why Yoshino sucks.

    I don't know if you've been follow the entire thread, but there is a small crowd where all they keep bring up was Guilty Crown yet refuse to give him credit on his work in Macross Frontier, Codes Geass, Mai-franchises, Kuroshitsuji, or Denpa-Kanojo. They even bring SEED Destiny into it when he was only responsible for a the screenplay in a handful of episodes. When other bring up those aforementioned series then they push it aside to marketing or other members of the staff for the success of those series. How does that making any sense or even fair?

    Going back to Jeter, the only reason we can back up that he suck defensively is because there are stats like (Ultimate) Zone Ratings and Range Factors that are in contrast to the players and coaches' eye tests. Otherwise that is still just personal opinion and that is really my point here.

    I don't have issue on bashing Yoshino and Yuuki, but at least offer some backing to it or say it out front that it's just their personal opinion. Not just sprung one-liners and call it a fact.

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