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2012-11-13 07:42EchoesI think there's something to that. It's been too long since I've watched the original to go into great detail about this, but something about the way the homunculi were integrated into the story worked better for me in the original. They are of course more central in the original, since there's fewer antagonists (and some different homunculi, even), but their stories really felt important. Wrath in particular I enjoyed as an anime-original character, I thought they did great with an improvised story in that regard. He is insanely bad-ass in Brotherhood, though, can't deny that either. Great villain. I think that the .5 rating system can aid in alleviating some of the problems I have with ratings, but not all. I have trouble quantifying anime, especially good anime. Not always, some shows easily fit into the predetermined slots, but many don't. It's something I probably put too much thought into. I guess some of it is just guilt when I don't enjoy something on a visceral level that I can see is good from an artistic standpoint. (I mean, I don't feel too bad giving To-Love-Ru a 5, I think even I'm qualified to judge that.) Another part I dislike about it, and this too is largely something that comes about due to my own mental tics, is the equating. I do it to myself too. When I'm trying to figure out what rating something deserves, my mind will sometimes wander to other shows and I'll start thinking "oh, no, this isn't as good/bad as that I guess...", and that's such a pointless exercise. Each 7 you have will never add up to exactly the same quality across the board, at least if you've got a substantial number of them. In summary, obsessiveness is bad, but I do it anyway.
You've got a much fresher perspective on this than I do, so I won't attempt to mount any sort of counter-offensive. The original's music, much like the show itself, simply stuck with me a little more. It was sort of a gateway for me into more Japanese music, outside of just hearing it in anime.
I so shouldn't start watching another show. That's the last thing I need! But you caught me at a very opportune time. I'm trying to go back and experience older shows, since pretty much everything I usually watch is current, and I'd like to broaden my range a bit. It's mostly been movies and short OVAs, but I could probably squeeze CCS in there at some point. I'm watching Dirty Pair right now, and that's pretty awesome. Maybe when I'm done with that. But I've also got the unfinished Another and Hana-Saku Iroha sitting here on my hard drive. Oh boy...
On that topic, I've actually started trying to rewatch every Star Wars movie, from prequels and up through the originals. I haven't seen the originals since I was a kid, and the prequels not since their initial release....ish. It's been fun! Sort of! But the last thing we need is another nerd rambling about Star Wars online, so I think I'll save it.
Oooh, I like that. "Am I not merciful!?" I love that movie. Sorry to drag your historical reference down to the level of a philistine.
Shaft, while doing only adaptations as far as I know, still bring a lot to the table with their visual flair and unique style of direction, which can add a lot to certain shows. Which brings us to your question. Perfect segue, actually.
I believe that Hidamari Sketch is the show that benefits the most from the unorthodox, artistic direction Shaft employs. The girls in the show are attending an art school, after all, and a lot of the show consists of them thinking about what to write, panting, drawing, viewing art and such. It's a thematic match made in heaven. Answering your actual question: I adore Hidamari Sketch, and I think there is a good chance that you would too. It's a relaxing slice of life with amusing humor, cute girls and a general vibe of positivity and joy. It's not hyper-active, like Yuru-Yuri, and though you'd think it'd be very similar to K-On because of the premise, due to the direction and style of humor, the mood ends up being very different. A lot of people love the Hidamari girls and find them super-moe in their own right, and I'd to agree to an extent, but the show is actually quite understated in its moe appeal, I think. Maybe I'm crazy. If I were to use one word to describe it, it would be charming. There's this wholesome enjoyment to everything, and the character chemistry is great. That's probably enough out of me for now. Don't want to over-sell it. The fourth season is going right now, and I'm enjoying it a ton. It's toned down the visual panache a bit, but the quality and enjoyment gleaned has not deteriorated one bit. Oh, and the openings are AMAZING. All of them! Damn it, I said I wasn't going to over-sell it.
Thanks for the info! (A new low has been reached, I ran out of space for this post and had to shorten it. Sorry for the flood. :P)
2012-11-13 03:08EchoesBoth series have their merits for certain, and I am largely in agreement with you when it comes to preferring the original. There's something magical there, I just wish I could put my finger on it. The journey feels more personal, and less epic, maybe. Might be something to that which makes us connect with it on a more emotional level. That's still a really vague explanation, though. In general, your point of not comparing things side by side because they have different appeals is well taken too. I think that with a remake, it's fair game, but it's still a practice that is used far too often. Although I rate most series I finish on MAL, I have mixed feelings about rating systems. They create this metric that leads to a line of thinking which, while it logically follows in a sense, doesn't end up holding true. "Oh, so you rated this 7, and this 7, so that means you think they're equal." Doesn't leave a lot of room for nuance, and it feels almost mean giving a low rating to something which had good elements to it but failed as a whole. It's not practically feasible, but I'd much rather like to have a paragraph or two of text as a "rating."
I feel like there's a big "but" at the end of almost every one of my ratings, probably except for the very best and the very worst ones.
I actually think I prefer the original when it comes to theme songs. But I'd have to give it some thought and revisit them all. I remember liking all of the original ones, except for Ready Steady Go, if that's what it was called. Which is a little ironic, since L'arc en Ciel was one of the few Japanese bands I already liked and listened to when I first watched the series some 6-7 years ago. "Period" from Brotherhood is amazing, though. Really set the stage.
Ah yes, that's quite like how Sailor Moon is for me, then. It's a project I've been at for over a year, I think, and I've watched maybe 60 episodes. It's the perfect show in small doses. (Except for the ending arc of the first season, which really takes the series to new heights.)
Oh, man... That's harsh. I love Jurassic Park. You're deprived of one of the few movies where CG doesn't suck and ruin everything. You still have The Phantom Menace to enjoy, though, so never despair!
That's the litmus test for what constitutes a good series, then? If it's good, it stays, otherwise, it's into the trash bin with ye! That's more than enough of an impression for me to make my decision. I'd only pick K up again if it got really good, since I disliked just about everything I saw.
You're right, Gainax isn't necessarily some bastion of originality. They have a few flagship titles that were revolutionary and ingenious, but they also have a lot of less remarkable shows in the lineup. They have a knack for breathing new life into old concepts though, and that's what often makes their shows compelling. Not that I'm a Gainax expert, I've barely even seen half of their lineup.
That's true. Watching anime should take precedence. Otherwise it'd be contrary to the spirit of the blog! Thanks for the explanation. I figured Youtube wouldn't be too good, but I didn't know of any alternatives. I've made an account at Kiwi6 now, and I'll see if I can't get that stuff working. Plan B will be to beg you for the help you offered.
2012-11-12 19:51SoverenceYeah, can't be more happy about anything then that, there is still a lot of places in the world where people don't get the chance to have those basic / simple things.
OreImo was actually the anime that pretty much got me into anime, yes I had watched anime on tv before and even a few series on my own, but nothing ever stuck to draw me in. I am pretty sure everyone has like that first anime that really drew them in and wanted to make them watch other stuff. Yeah that is the good thing about skype, its got video, audio, and text chat so basically you have every form of chat that there is. I know, sometimes I swear you just lose connection with Skype for no apparent reason or the messages just won't send, but hey its a free service for the most part so I can't really complain.
Yeah I hear yeah, I usually do that with whatever anime I am watching at the time or most recently watched. That is assuming I like the OP but it has been awhile since I downright hated a OP. The last time I remember really pretty much hating a OP was the OP to Monster which is pretty funny considering I think that is one of the best series ever made. I don't know if you have heard that OP (Or seen the anime) but it was just so dull (The OP, not the anime), it was meant to have like suspense to it but it just didn't work and was not interesting. When you compared it to the fantastic ED that the anime had as well it seemed even worse of a piece.
I thought the music they did for the Christmas arch was the best along with the OP/ED, but besides that I thought it was all average. It was, I am pretty sure Oasis made that song for the anime though if I remember correctly, so that is why it fit so perfectly to the anime.
It does do a lot of things right and the characters, well all being downright insane, are still made very well and interesting enough that you want to see what happens. Yeah, the fact that Yuno was the "villain" at the end was actually a pretty smart move, but my god I wish she had just died, I don't care how depressed Yukki got, I really just wanted her to die. I think it will be awhile before we see a Yandere as creepy as her again, or at least I hope so. Exactly, my point from the start, the level of fanservice they had was just way too high and it became obvious that instead of being a action zombie show it was a show made for teenage adolescent boys to faw over. Okay, I will give them a free pass there, because lets be realistic, a decent amount of OVA's are just fanservice for the characters that are most popular.
Yeah, saw that at the midnight release, kinda sucked for me though because I had spent the day at a water park and somehow decided that walking around with my shirt off for 12 hours wouldn't be a bad idea, needless to say the sunburn was quite distracting well trying to sit still and watch that movie -.- .
Honestly I remember times where the movie theater at my mall wouldn't even have people check to see if you had a ticket, they had people at a concession stand and that was it, you could literally just walk right past them, I never did because that is just the kind of person I am, but I saw people just walk in there all the time. I don't think something like that would ever even have a remote chance of happening a the present time. Honestly its so stupid, I wouldn't have a problem with buying theater snacks if they were just a little over-priced cause then I could say "oh they need to make a profit off of it and I don't mind spending that little extra", but when they are charging like $5 dollars for what would cost about $1 at a regular store and its just like no, that is insane.
2012-11-12 12:06Echoes[Fucking huge post en route. I tried to limit myself, especially when it came to Evangelion, but looking at the overall size of this post, I clearly failed.]
Yes, I think it's possible for something to be inferior even if you connect with it on a deeper level. The reason I think that is that there are many different reasons that could determine how well you connect with a show, many of them out of the show's control, such as what stage you're at in your life, your fandom, or even just what sort of mood you're in that week. There's also the first impression thing when it comes to remakes. Whatever was the first way you experienced something tends to be your favorite. Of course, if someone is able to make a positive emotional connection to a show, for whatever reason, that's great, and I'm not trying to say that stuff isn't important. I just want to try to be as fair as possible when comparing the two incarnations, and strip away *my* personal circumstances and bias. Now, with FMA I'm genuinely not sure which, if any, of these things apply. I'm more emotionally attached to the first, but I'm not able to pinpoint why it is I feel this way, perhaps because it's been so long since I've seen it. The only reason I even wonder which one I think is the best is because the margins are so small; I loved both. Still, Brotherhood lacked some of the emotional impact of the first. Is that because I've seen a lot of it before? Is it because it doesn't measure up to some subconscious image of "how things should be in FMA" that I've constructed? I don't know. Regardless, I'm going with my gut on this one, and at least as my *favorite*, I'll point to the original. Maybe when I rewatch it one day, I'll find the answer. Trivial though it may be.
Oh yeah, Triangler is a great song! Haven't listened to that in a good while. Still want to watch Cardcaptor Sakura someday. But starting anything that long is a major commitment with all the stuff out there. Someday I'll get here.
Dinosaur parents. You're living the dream of every 8th year old in the world.
That's about what I expected from SAO's future. It's not that I think it'll be terrible either, it's just hard to pick up again when I know it won't be as much fun as I had in my first cramming session with it. Oh well, this sure is a silly complaint, I'll watch it eventually. 700 MB for a TV episode is really, really big. How's K holding up? I didn't keep up with that one, it felt like it was trying real hard to be "cool" and just rubbed me the wrong way. In a less packed season I'd have given it more than two episodes, so I'm curious to know if it's gone anywhere interesting now.
Ah yes, I completely get that. When the references make you think "Damn, I wish I was watching that instead", something has gone terribly wrong. Gainax has always been a bit of a unique studio. They started as a group of highly devoted fans, I believe. I still haven't watched "The Wings of Honneamise", but I really, really want to. Their shows have (well, had, I wouldn't say they make remarkable stuff currently) a certain special charm to them. And of course, who could forget the "Gainax ending"? I'm glad you're finding something to enjoy in Evangelion. I could go on for days about that series. I won't though, don't worry. It's too personal of a show for me to really evangelize about. If the show doesn't connect with you on a very personal level (say, if you, as many people do, hate Shinji or the rest of the cast), then the show will likely be an unrewarding experience. This isn't me trying to be some elitist prick claiming that the unwashed masses simply "don't get it!!", it's just that kind of a show. Some people find it incredibly rewarding, even enlightening and emotionally curative, while others, whose experiences and outlooks don't line up with any of the cast or themes being explored will probably have a miserable time watching. That's without going into the actual merits of the show on a non-emotional level, a discussion which is typically eclipsed by the opposing factions of "Evangelion changed my life" and "Shinji is a pussy and the show is pretentious garbage." That's hyperbole, of course, but I do think that Evangelion is one of the most polarizing shows in anime history. For that reason alone, your more nuanced opinion is appreciated.
Cool, cool. Giving yourself a little bit of a break (well, compared to last year, a post a day is still a commitment, not to mention picking the songs!) while still spreading the gospel. It's decided then, I'll definitely post something music-related too. Hopefully soon. I had a question about that. You always post those nice playable links, but I presume that's because you're using your external mediafire account to host the songs? Since I don't have that, that'd make it a little difficult to actually post music. What's a smart solution, a Youtube link? Or is that sort of practice frowned upon?
2012-11-12 06:36EchoesI hear ya. Regardless though, I don't think that a comparison between the two is uncalled for. We can agree to disagree on that one, we both love the show, after all. Loooove Maaya Sakamoto. She's such a prestige performer. Really unique voice.
Are you saying I'll have to extort (the "x" makes it sound cool!) you through the actual mail!? Sigh...
That's neat. I know how it gets with space, though. File sizes keep on increasing. I downloaded the 80s OVA "Riding Bean" a couple of days ago, and it's over 4 gigabytes. It's like 40 minutes. To be fair, it had great quality, but yeah... my HD keeps on shrinkin'. I've actually loved SAO so far, but because I'm aware that it likely won't keep being this good I'm reluctant to continue.
Oh, yeah, I realize that's not what you meant; I was just adding that little dig at their expense because the entire show is standing on the shoulders of giants, and that's their life-line. The reference thing is another matter entirely, and it doesn't really bother me that much all things considered. The subtlety has taken a dive in this season though. (Not that subtlety was ever HnG's strong-suit, but you know, it has its moments.) The fact that you have that song makes you awesome in my book. You're the ace of spades, man.
You're doing that thing again? I already called you the ace of spades, and as we all know there's no higher title than that, but hell, that's damn impressive. You're two aces of spades now. One for each exhausted hand on the keyboard. I'll definitely write something myself. I wanted to do a write-up for this season, but I just couldn't keep up with anything as it was being released, and by the time I'd checked out a decent amount of shows it was, well, like 5 weeks in and I felt like the window of opportunity had slipped through my fingers. I was actually thinking of writing something music-related myself. Not to steal your thunder or anything. (Fat chance of that happening with a month of festivities in the near future anyhow. ^^) I also thought of making a "top 10 shows I want to see licensed but probably never will be." Title subject to change... :P
2012-11-12 04:12EchoesI think it's fair to compare them. It goes without saying that comparisons will be made when you remake something, it's part of the territory. I agree that the original series' ending is far better than the movie's ending. The movie is alright as its own thing, I guess, but compared to the actual series, it falls flat on its face. I thought The Sacred Star of Milos was a nice addition, though. Nothing deep or earth-shattering, but a nice adventure that felt like it could fit in just about anywhere in the series. Cool new character too, I thought. Voiced by Maaya Sakamoto, though I can't remember the actual character's name off the top of my head. Funny how she voiced the new female character in the Trigun movie as well. I guess she has a knack for movie-only female leads.
Do that. Maybe hit me up with a link when you do as well, I might miss it. Those crying pictures will be our little secret, don't worry about it.... now what did you say your father's email address was again?
I really should rewatch Aoi Bungaku. All this talk is whetting my appetite too much. Shouldn't have saturated by schedule by starting SAO on top of everything else.
I'm pretty crazy, though. I'd agree with your assessment of the reference deal. But that's pretty much the state of the entire season; feeding off of previous successes. I did find it funny how they went ahead and spoiled Madoka for everyone who hasn't seen it, though. Class act. It's mostly the characters that make me stay, they're great, and I don't want to let the drop in overall quality completely deprive me of them. I'm totally on-board the Hinagiku train, though. Not even going to lie, she's just amazing. And for once, the masses agree with me. I guess I can't be a pariah all the time. She sung Cruel Angel's Thesis karaoke, for Christ's sake. That was an incredible episode for a dyed-in-the-wool Evangelion fan like me.
2012-11-11 20:41EchoesI had a great deal of fun with both FMA series, and I can easily see the arguments on both sides. Any opinion on the movies? In that regard, I think Brotherhood easily outshone the original. (Though the two movies couldn't be more different, so they don't really lend themselves to straight up comparisons.)
Oh, neat. I was just lamenting to myself over Asami Imai not being in anything I'd been watching for a while, so that sounds like a good idea indeed. Congratulations on your purchase. I'd like to see those pictures. The ones of you crying in particular.
I liked that too. It is a thing of beauty when stories can play with perspective in an effective manner. It takes great craftmanship to pull it off effectively, so it's not really seen that often.
Uh-oh, I did mention Yumekui Merry in my top 10, didn't I. It was sort of tied with Working and Idolmaster for the last spot as I recall. Now I'm really in trouble if you dislike it! Speaking of the Hayate no Gotoku opening, the Yumekui Merry one kicks all kinds of ass. That, no one can deny. Watched episode 6 today. It wasn't that bad. Probably the best episode yet, Hinagiku notwithstanding. Nagi is a pretty cool character when she gets the chance to actually do something outside of her characteristic laziness and nerdy desires. Not that those can't be funny, of course.
2012-11-11 20:27SoverenceI hear yeah, well I guess we should just be happy we were born somewhere that gives us the chance to work toward our dream.
It was honestly the oreimo page that drew me to these forums, eventually, slowly but surely I expanded out of there to enjoy the wonders of the whole forums. Yeah i hear yeah on that one. Ahhh Skype, everyone's favorite chatting program.
I know right? The full version of that song is probably one of the best op songs I have heard, they use like all of the song throughout the anime as well which just makes it more awesome. I like that song as well, both of the Toradora op's were pretty good I thought, but I would have to agree the second one was better. Another great op was the one to Higashi No Eden, probably the best op with English lyrics I have heard.
Well yeah, there is a big difference between fanservice and establishing a sexual relationship. Like in Mirai Nikki, the sex scene toward the end between Yuki and Yuno is not meant for fanservice its meant to further the characters (although my god, that pair still creeps me the fuck out). In HOTD you know you got girls getting eaten by zombies with her panties showing and bathroom scene with a bunch of girls.
Yeah, last movie I went to see was Paranormal activity 4 (never see it, it was beyond horrible) but it just cost so much and it just didn't feel worth it to me. Yeah, same here, they have people check all your bags so pretty much you can maybe sneak in what can fit in your pockets, and even if you get it in they have people go through the theaters and look for food that isn't from the theater, its just ugh.
Yeah, makes sense.
2012-11-11 13:09Triple_RWith Sword Art Online, I've honestly lost interest in it.
The main problem, for me, is the switch to the new MMO they're in now. Combine that with how Kirito is a borderline Gary Stu, and this show just has no tension whatsoever anymore for me. It's just become too predictable, and too easy. So everything feels dragged out.
Much of what made SAO so effective was it's kickass premise - A VR MMO that doubles as a death-game: Almost like a fantasy world made real in the modern era. If you die in that fantasy world, then you die for real, and that alone ensures a certain tension. But SAO now lacks that due to the MMO change. And given Kirito's tendency to steamroll the opposition, it's just... well, it's like watching someone good at WoW play WoW, which to me is a rather boring concept.
I also don't like how Asuna has been handled. She's become such a damsel in distress that it's disheartening to me.
I don't hate SAO, but I just can't bring myself to care about it right now.
2012-11-11 00:42EchoesYou know, and this is genuinely a complete coincende, I was just over at RottenTomatoes to check see what the world thought of a great movie I just watched (Blood Simple, really good stuff), and I happened upon a list called "top 10 actors turned directors." Maybe you can see where this is going. It was an external link from Rolling Stone, and I read through it, somewhat unimpressed by its content. Then I saw number 5. Eli Roth. 5th best actor turned director ever. I don't even know how to begin to address what's wrong with that, and I'm sure I don't have to. A talented provocateur whose talents should not be dismissed, they said. Fuck that noise. Needless to say, I didn't stick around for the last 4.
I love both of those series, and I surprisingly find it hard to choose. Ultimately, I think I'd choose the original as well. Brotherhood had a stronger, more cohesive narrative, but the original connected with me on a more personal, emotional level and was a more landmark experience in my fandom. How much of that is nostalgia and anime as a whole being fresher to me when I first watched the original some 6-7 years ago, I'm not really sure.
I know all about your plights. There's just too much awesome stuff our there available to us anime fans.... you have to choose your battles. Good luck figuring out whether the purchase can be justified. Your mentioning of Idolmaster made me go and turn on "Positive", that one's really stuck in my head.
Kokoro was really strong. Although to be fair, that's my opinion of all of the installments in the series. I'd have a really difficult time choosing myself, and "raw" I think is an apt description, not only of Kokoro, but of most of the segments. The Sakura segment was indeed the black sheep, although that's still a good story if you take it on its own merits, as opposed to comparing it to the other five, which I find absolutely superlative. As you point out, it has a silly tone to it at times, and the anachronistic stuff really seemed like an unnecessary and outright bizarre addition. (I think one of the travelers was listening to an iPod or something?) I agree that the ending definitely delivers. I think Ningen Shikkaku, Kumo no Ito and Hashire, Melos! are my favorites. But it's genuinely hard to even narrow it down to three, the reason they succeed are so different, yet the quality and elegance of the story-telling is very consistent. I'll look forward to hearing what you think about Merry, whether you enjoy it or not. Most complaints I've heard relate to the ending or comparisons to the manga, so even if you end up disliking it, that'd probably bring a new perspective to the table. Oh, and hey, how's SAO holding up? I finally decided to start watching that a week ago. I'm only on episode 8, and I'm actually enjoying it a lot more than I thought, but does it hold up? I've heard it loses some steam later on.
It is a pretty nice song, I'll give you that. Again though (can't stop the complainin' train), I think that in the context of the series, the upbeat music we got in the earlier seasons was much more fitting. There's just no pleasing me with this one, I guess.
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