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nines 2008-08-19 22:15

The purple haro belongs to the red haired girl now(forget her name shes hot to howd i forget grah x.x) and they took the information out of that to make the Throne Gundams sadly they couldn't make the uber gn particles hahah xD

Rising Dragon 2008-08-19 22:23

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Originally Posted by nines (Post 1820794)
The purple haro belongs to the red haired girl now(forget her name shes hot to howd i forget grah x.x) and they took the information out of that to make the Throne Gundams sadly they couldn't make the uber gn particles hahah xD

Her name's Nena Trinity.

console65 2008-08-19 22:39

Is there some official source that talks about the history and workings of the GN Drives (original and false solar furnaces)?

Derringer 2008-08-23 13:01

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Originally Posted by console65 (Post 1820863)
Is there some official source that talks about the history and workings of the GN Drives (original and false solar furnaces)?

Yeah, the "Gundam 00 Official File No" publications.

jonli 2008-08-23 14:03

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Originally Posted by Cox (Post 1820604)
All the Drives are basically big generators. The four Gundams make use of a TD Blanket that can hold the energy in the generator and continuously recharge the drive generator. This Blanket can only be made on Jupiter and thusly is hard to get! The Tau drives is basically a GN Drive without this Blanket. Because it does not have the Blanket the generator lets the energy out. So the Tau runs out like a battery..

Hmmm, so what charges the GN Tau Drives? The energy they get from the solar elevators?

Cox 2008-08-23 14:24

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Originally Posted by jonli (Post 1829587)
Hmmm, so what charges the GN Tau Drives? The energy they get from the solar elevators?

I do not know. I think they got the tech from Harvey. In one of the later eps you can see them charging the drives.

ElldenStorm 2008-08-24 05:41

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Originally Posted by jonli (Post 1829587)
Hmmm, so what charges the GN Tau Drives? The energy they get from the solar elevators?

I think there was a mis-translation on the subs. I don't think it's 'charge.' Like any reactor, which the GN Drives are, they require fuel. You would not electrically charge an electrical generator, otherwise it's not a generator, its a capacitor / battery.

To answer your question, what information we have been given on the GN Drives, states that they "harnesses the photon and positron discharge of the non-evaporative decay of baryonic matter as an energy source." GN Particles are a byproduct of this process. Basically, they're taking the photonic and positronic (anti-matter) product of a rapid nuclear decay (This isn't fission or fusion, Cox, it's the natural breakdown of the atomic particles) and turning it into electrical power while producing GN Particles... Atleast as close as I can tell.

So they likely have to 'refuel' the drives with some 'un-specified' baryonic matter (which could be anything from deuterium(heavy water), to some sort of super condensed gas). The TD Blanket though, appears to do a number of things, least of which includes making the GN Particle byproducts safe. But as the TD Blankets are the defining feature of the genuine drives, and they don't require refueling that we know of, it appears to loop the reactant materials in the reactor for an infinite fuel source.

console65 2008-08-24 13:01

Now that's what I call an expanation! It's advanced writing that shows the physics and I can understand it completely.

The GN Drive Tau needs a recharge of somesort (electricity or whatever) because it keeps losing GN Particle Output the longer it's in operation like Johann Trinity said in ep. 22....or was that mistranslated too? :(

ElldenStorm 2008-08-24 16:04

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Originally Posted by console65 (Post 1832793)
Now that's what I call an expanation! It's advanced writing that shows the physics and I can understand it completely.

The GN Drive Tau needs a recharge of somesort (electricity or whatever) because it keeps losing GN Particle Output the longer it's in operation like Johann Trinity said in ep. 22....or was that mistranslated too? :(

It's either mistranslated in the subs, or misused originally, kinda, sorta. Maybe the Japannese don't have a proper word for whatever process they have envisioned for injecting the fuel into the GN Cores? English has an appropriate word, but if we look at the dictionary definition of 'Charge' it has a relevant conotation aswell. A few of the relevant meanings are listed below for 'Charge' from dictionary.com.

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to fill or furnish (a thing) with the quantity, as of powder or fuel, that it is fitted to receive: to charge a musket.
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to put a load or burden on or in.
I suppose I just said it was a mistranslation, that's not entirely accurate, but what I was getting at is the common interpetation of the word 'charge' is typically tied to 'electrical' charges, which I see alot of people online assuming. That's not the case here, because electrical charging doesn't match what we have been told about the drives.

But on the subject of Nena and Johann's dialogue in Episode 22. They're talking about remaining particles, as if the Tau Drives are big GN Particle Storage Devices. That doesn't jive with what Ian said about the Tau Drives in Episode 18. He said that they function just like a normal drive, meaning they 'produce' their GN Particles. It isn't that what they were saying was even inaccurate, from a phsyics standpoint they should be able to measure the potential output of a set amount of fuel.

Say you have X amount of Baryonic Matter (GN Fuel), we'll say 5 litters in your drive, so they likely know how much 'nuclear decay' or what not that amount of matter is equivalent to in GN Particle production, so they know they'll get fifty billion particles (hypothetically speak, just using that number as an example) out of it? See what I'm gettin at?

Ichimaru 2008-08-26 05:27

Hey guys what i dont get is the CB or meisters started all this crap, now in season 2 they become from being antagonists to protagonists, seriously how can ppl forget and forgive such actions? Then you have a protagonists in grahamn now switch to the dark side.....his the only reason why im watchin this to kick asses.

LoweGear 2008-08-26 05:45

Celestial Being has always been the protagonists in the literary sense.

A Protagonist is simply the character or group of a story on whom the story has a much greater focus on, and the Antagonists oppose them. This is different from being a hero or villain, which are the terms you're looking for. While Celestial Being are the protagonists of 00's story, they are hardly purely heroic, and the power blocs may be the antagonists, but they're hardly purely evil. Thus far there is no such thing as a "Dark Side" or other such evil in 00.

jonli 2008-08-26 08:49

^ Yea, the only "evil" character in 00 so far is probably Alejandro Corner.

ElldenStorm 2008-08-26 15:03

Don't forget Ali Al Sharsez and Patrick Coralsawr (I know Patrick is harmless, but he's really pissing me off!)! Those guys are seriously evil dudes!

UltimateClash 2008-08-28 22:23

There's a spoiler floating around ***NOT** related to 00, but colossally important to the Gundam Universe. I NEED confirmation on this one, help me out

Spoiler:


Yes/No/Maybe?

LightningZERO 2008-08-28 22:30

Spoiler:

Rising Dragon 2008-08-28 22:32

Might want to fix your tags there.

EDIT: There you go.

UltimateClash 2008-08-28 23:11

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Originally Posted by LightningZERO (Post 1846273)
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

LightningZERO 2008-08-28 23:19

Apparently he survived the accident and was laying low until Casval went MIA

Derringer 2008-09-02 10:50

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Originally Posted by jonli (Post 1838223)
^ Yea, the only "evil" character in 00 so far is probably Alejandro Corner.

That's probably not true either. From what information we have about the Arrows, perhaps having someone like Alejandro actually lead would be better for the world.

jonli 2008-09-04 07:11

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Originally Posted by LightningZERO (Post 1846390)
Apparently he survived the accident and was laying low until Casval went MIA

Damn, that's really retarded. That Char doesn't even have the same charm as Casval. Not as cunning and not as hardcore.

Why would he even want to start a second movement for Neo Zeon? If I were him, I'd hate Casval.


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