Time for a New Computer... Suggestions?
 

My current one is almost 10 years old, and last last me well. But I think it's time to upgrade. It's developed an issue where it powers on for 2 seconds, then turns off, forcing me to plug the power cord in somewhere else before it will attempt to power on again. Eventually, it stays on for good. I think it's a PSU issue, but don't believe it's worth the time or money to try for a new PSU. And I need to upgrade anyway...

With that in mind, let me list some of the things I am looking for:

Able to stream and play 720p and 1080p video
To hook it up to my TV at times to stream video to it
Relatively quiet as can be
Possibly wifi enabled (or ability to add wifi capability later)

I'm not any sort of gamer, so I don't care about high end stuff or being able to play any of the top games on the market. I mainly use it for writing, browsing, and watching stuff. My budget is about $500, give or take. I'm not entirely comfortable putting something together on my own; mainly looking for advice of what to look for in specs, make, models, company, etc. And what to avoid.

I plan to get a new monitor, too, but that's a more future thing. I'd rather get a decent computer now, before my current one dies on me.

Thinking something with a 2-3ghz processor, 2GB+ RAM, and 500GB+ HDD. Any suggestions? Good deals? Things to avoid?

You might want to take a look at the small form-factor machines designed to be used as a media center PC. Newegg has a bunch of these, all under $500, like this, this, or this. If your TV has an HDMI port, you can connect these directly to it. Add a wireless keyboard and mouse, and you're good to go. They're also considerably quieter than a traditional desktop PC, though I must say I don't really notice my full-sized Acer which sits next to my TV, even with its NVIDIA card with a separate fan.

The ASUS models don't generally have an optical drive, so if you're intending to use it as a DVD player, the Acer is a better choice. (You can also buy a USB-enabled outboard DVD drive for about $50.) The NVIDIA ION platform supports hardware-accelerated decoding of H.264 video. My ASUS netbook has an ION processor and works well with 720p and even 1080p material using Linux, mplayer, and the VDPAU driver from NVIDIA. (There are Windows equivalents as well.) Atom-powered machines like these may have trouble with the new 10-bit encodes our friendly fansubbers have started to roll out since they can't decode the video using the graphics hardware.

In the regular desktop market, here's what's available at NewEgg in the $400-500 range. These Lenovos look like a pretty good deal in comparison to the others in that list. One has an Intel i3, the other an AMD Athlon II, and both come with 4GB of memory and a 1TB hard drive. These should have the CPU horsepower to decode HD video natively, even with 10-bit encodings.

All of these come with wifi adapters built in.

You sure about not wanting to put something together on your own? Generally it would seem that pre-built computers have a lot of air in their prices for the parts they have and it would be either : cheaper to build it on your own, or pay the same ; gain more power.

Can't say much about graphic cards for the usage you need them but those Lenovos Seiji suggested are just awful. Really, a dual core? For your budget you can get quad core with 8GB ram and 1TB HDD as well as a MB with HDMI for PC => TV (though even if there wasn't HDMI, you can use DVI => HDMI adapters).

This is all assuming you would build it yourself. 500 bucks for dual core and 4GB ram, or 500 bucks for quad core and 8GB ram (There are other differences too, but these would be the main ones).

Well, I feel a bit confident to open up my computer and do something like replace the side fan (did that once) or plug a card into a PCI slot. And I know a little about the innards of a computer from some college classes years ago. But actually putting the components together myself, makes me a bit nervous(making sure everything is compatible and won't lead to shorting issues down the road, etc.). I might have a person or two around here who could probably do that, but they tend to be busy and I hate bugging people for favors like that.

We'll see, though.

So you assemble the computer from parts, and it doesn't work. What happens then? At least if you buy an machine from a manufacturer there's this little thing called a warranty.

I think you should give Kaijo's concerns a bit more respect, Dist. Most of us don't want to assemble our own computers. We want to buy something that either works or, if it doesn't, can be easily replaced.

Thanks, Seji. I was looking at what you linked, and they seem a bit underpowered. But your links led me to others, and I think I found three that might suit my needs. They all have decent feedback, and some differences between them, so I'll put them up to see if anyone has any comments on the specific models or parts:

Acer Aspire AM3410-UR22P - Has quad core, extra HDD bay, PCI slots for graphic upgrade
Acer Aspire AM3970-U5022 - dual core and a bit slower, but more PCI slots, it looks like. Comes with more initial RAM, but that shouldn't be a big issue
Lenovo IdeaCentre H405 - not too sure on this... no PCI slots listed (and no addl HDD bay); about the only thing that seems better is the HDD is 7200 RPM.

Next is comparing what each has to see what I need. It was pointed out to me that the two Aspires have 300w PS's, and that I might need more than that. But that's something I can probably upgrade later.

Edit: Did some comparing, and leaning toward the first Acer Aspire. Slightly faster(with quad core instead of dual), comes with slightly better graphics (although I can upgrade that). Just the 300w power supply that I may have to change later, but I think I can do that.

Concerns for problems I understand, but most OEMs will rip you off when it comes to non-laptop, non-premium mass market desktops. Until you get into boutique gaming desktop territory, you're better off building something yourself.

That said, I do have a few suggestions:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4360/w...ing-on-a-grand
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4299/d...kstation-class

If you don't care about PC gaming, Dell business desktops are probably a good idea purely because you get all kinds of support. The Warfactory Sentinel is a really good deal for a prebuilt machine, though.

Alternatively, you can buy a laptop. Look at HP ProBook, Lenovo Thinkpad or Dell Latitude if you're not interested in gaming. Asus G Series or MSI's G Series if you're into gaming.

If you were in Canada I'd probably recommend something along the lines of this:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58462&...nufacture=Acer
$350 for 3.1ghz AMD Tricore. Since I don't think you're in Canada, I'll just leave it here as a reference.

I'd strongly advise against buying anything Acer ever.
The first of synaestethic's suggestions is way overkill for what you want and the second is a bit ???.

It is unfortunate that you're not comfortable with building your own computer, because with your specification of requirements and budget you could really get a lot better (or a lot cheaper) results by custom-building it and improving certain areas at the expense of others. You could get a lot more bang for your buck that way; not only because of the customization but also because there's usually a >25% markup on pre-assembled systems when compared to their off-the-shelf parts (for example, if you take a look at Newegg's DIY Combos category in the $300 - $400 range, you'll notice several options that are either comparable to or faster than either of the Acer's you linked but cost $100 - $200 less).

Either way, given your specification of requirements, I'd say your priorities should be as follows:

1. HDD's
2. Quietness
3. Getting a graphics card with HDMI or DisplayPort output
4. Getting either a Core i3/i5/i7 or Phenom CPU
5. Getting 4GB of RAM (more is overkill, but 2GB isn't really enough these days)
6. Everything else

The reasoning for this is that basically any decently modern multi-core CPU that is sold new today (i.e. Intel's Core i-series or AMD's Phenom series) will be able to decode even Hi10p 1080p H.264 in realtime without too much trouble, so you can basically pick the cheapest one you can find (or the least power-consuming, since more power => more heat => more cooling needed => louder fans) and you'll be just fine. If you're not playing games or fooling around in Photoshop etc there is really no meaningful difference between the different options. Paying more for a faster CPU will gain you nothing beyond a certain point.
Wifi is not a concern, really, since a wireless network card costs around $15, and you said you're comfortable with installing PCI cards. If you don't want to do that either you can just get a USB dongle for the same price, and that's that.
Hence, what you should look for, IMO, is big HDD's to store your animu on (and expansion slots for adding more), a quiet chassis and quiet fans.

I've been the happy user of a back-then-brand-new Acer Aspire 8910... until it broke after 25 months. Afterwards it took me 3 months in send-in service until they diagnosed that they couldn't repair it since they didn't have the required spare part, so it took 3 extra months and a pretty ridiculous repair bill before I got it back. On the plus side, the open-ended wait caused me to buy another laptop (Alienware) with which I'm fully content.

So, Acer is toss-away cheap stuff. If you're prepared to dump it after warranty, go ahead. Otherwise, I'd suggest to stick to other brands. So far I've been pretty impressed with the Dell service, so if you want to go for a laptop, I'd give them my recommendation.

As for the rest: Pretty much every box you can get nowadays will have a CPU capable of playing back 1080p easily, so you're good. I subscribe to what Fluffy said. If you have the time to invest, narrow down your choices to 2-3 setups, and then google for user and test reviews. You can find out ALOT this way, and sometimes even get suggestions for good alternatives.

Any modern desktop should be able to play HD video.

My last experience with consumer grade hardware left a very bad taste in my mouth. Low quality, and when it breaks, bad support. Business stuff comes at a premium price or a performance loss, but I personally think its worth it to have a high quality product with support that isn't a pain to deal with. If you don't mind spending more or getting less performance (they should still all handle HD video just fine, even the Hi10p), my recommendations.
-ThinkCentre M71e
-OptiPlex 790
I'm pretty sure they both have DisplayPort + VGA rather than HDMI since DP tends to be more popular in business environments, so you will need an adapter to hook it up with your TV since most HDTV's use HDMI. They both have 3yr onsite warranty standard which feels like overkill until you actually need it.

You know, you're really pushing me into DIY, and I have to say it's looking more like an attractive option, heh. I could probably put something together with those parts, as long as it's not too difficult (I mean, I can plug RAM chips in, and work a screwdriver). But I feel less comfortable if I have to fool with circuit board switches, or worry that particular brands or models are incompatible with each other. If it's just a matter of plugging everything into the board(and being assured all the parts will play nice together), and screwing the board into the case, I can probably do that.

Having said that, I looked over that DIY list you linked, and picked out a few with specs that seem to fit what I'm looking for:

Phenom II X4 VISION SuperCombo - cheapest, 3.0GHz quad core, 1.5TB HDD
Phenom II X6/880G/4GB/1.5TB SuperCombo - 2.8GHz six-core, 1.5TB HDD
Phenom II X6/880G/4GB/1TB WiFi SuperCombo LE - 2.6GHz six-core, 1TB HDD(7200rpm), wifi adapter.

I currently have a cord stretching across my condo, so wireless does look advantageous. It's just that I'd have to deal with securing issues (I already have a router that has wireless capability, just can't use it due to old computer). Although if I drop that, I think six cores might be more than I need, which makes the first one look more attractive due to cost and bigger HDD (although, to be honest, I'd probably find I have trouble filling up a 1TB HDD, let alone a 1.5TB one).

Just noticed: "Newegg.com cannot guarantee the compatibility of Combo items. Please contact the manufacturer(s) directly if you have issues or concerns regarding compatibility."

Which leaves me nervous, and wondering the best way to confirm that everything will play nice together... And they don't have feedback on the combos. Hmm...

For your purposes six cores would be overkill, and you can add wi-fi to a computer for like $20.

Also, I think it should be noted that a large part of why these DIY combos are cheaper is because they don't come with an operating system. If you need to get Windows with it, the price gap between the DIY kits and the Lenovos narrows significantly.

This is a good point. However, if you have a valid .edu email address, you can get Win7 Professional for $65 via Microsoft's student discount program. If you don't have that, Win7 Home Premium is $99 new.

On a side note, if you go with a pre-built system you usually get over 9000 pre-installed trial versions of shitty software you'll never use with your Windows install.

I don't think you should worry too much about that, really. These days, off-the-shelf components use very well established standards, and incompatibilities between different parts are extremely rare.

If you want to go the prebuilt road, I think the Dell Inspiron 620 might be a decent alternative. Dell usually has decent build quality and decent support (and unlike some OEM's they're usually pretty conservative with how many shitty trial versions they ship pre-installed), and while the CPU is a bit slower than what you could've gotten for your money otherwise, it'll still do what you want. Going this road does however have some downsides if you ever want to upgrade the system (it'll void the warranty) and I have no idea what that chassis looks like inside.

edit: also, check the Dell Outlet

Everything in the combo should work together. If it doesn't, you can complain to MSI and ASUS that their mobos doesn't work with components they explicitly list as supported on their website.

Win7 Home Premium OEM costs $99, which is much cheaper than the retail version, but has less support and can not be transferred to a new machine in the future.

The only warning I would give about Ph2X6 is that VSFilter (CCCP's subtitle rendering) is single threaded and inefficient, and single core performance on the X6's tends to be lower than that of the X4's at the same price. You should be fine with 99% of the fansubs out there though, but there is the occasional group that makes ridiculously heavy subs (especially flashy karaoke stuff).

He said he does not feel comfortable doing it, not that he outright refuses to build his own computer. The main thing here was the fact that you'll get more bang for your buck if you build it yourself. You do realize that whether you build it yourself, or buy it as a pre-built, they both have warranty? Only if you build it yourself you have to only send the defective part to warranty. In some cases this can be considered a plus if you have old parts lying around ex. Kaijo's old computer and use those meanwhile so you wont be left without a computer.

As for parts being compatible, we could just suggest parts here (those that are knowledgeable), or could ask elsewhere.

Anyone can build a computer if they look at the manuals and it will work if you do it properly. I totally understand where you're coming from though, Kaijo. I was like that too (and a bit still..) so I had my friend help me and we built my current rig together. Next computer I should be able to build completely on my own.

Anyway hey, it was just a suggestion that I threw in the air if you wanted max. '' bang '' for what you pay. If you're gonna buy pre-built that's cool, though unfortunately I can't suggest anything then as I've no experience in that field.

The problem with the warrenty on self-builts is that you need to be able to diagnose which part is the problem before you can send it in for service. That can be tricky if you don't have spare parts to test with - and since his current PC is so old, I doubt he could use any parts from his current machine as spared.

Also, while a lot of stuff is easy to figure out from manuals, my friend and had to resort to tracking down an Intel tutorial video for how to install a socket 775 heatsink, since both of us got it wrong even after reading the manual.

Ugh heatsinks.. Well if you're not building a gaming computer the boxed one should do just fine and it's installing is easy as pie. Custom coolers in the other hand.. It took 2 hours for me and my friend to install my Scythe Ninja .. We read the manual wrong, thrice -_-. Aside from that, it was hard as hell and not one man's job.

Good point about the parts though. Generally you can diagnose the problem with a bit of software or googling, though if the problem is as far as computer not starting up it's another story. Guess wrong and the part will be sent back with a bill from the warranty.

With that said I guess it's best for you to buy pre-built. There's another option though, not sure about the cost around there though ; If you buy all parts from the same shop (one that specializes in comp parts), they usually offer a building service that gives you 1-3 years of warranty. It costs some money but it still makes the computer better than a pre-built would. My previous computer was done like this and it was like 2x better than a pre-built would have been.

Just get a Macbook Air, starting at $999 + Apple Care!

Heatsinks tend to be nasty offenders in the "ease of building" category. Actually, cooling in general is like that. Otherwise, everything should be pretty self explanatory.

Or Thinkpad with 3 yr same day onsite support with accidental damage coverage.

There are very few reason to buy consumer grade computers. Either build it yourself for less or cough up for something that actually offers an improvement over self builds for non-idiots.

Speaking of OS'es, if you are absolutely sure you will NOT play any kind of games, don't buy Windows. This will save you money because there's really no reason to use Windows. Don't buy MAC either. Just get a computer, whether self-built or pre-built without an OS, and use Linux. While you may think you don't know how to use Linux or such, if you get one of those easy to use versions it's almost identical to that of a Windows. You don't need any knowledge of using a Linux. Everything will be pretty much self-explanatory. If you're not 100% sure about not playing then don't get one because installing games to work on Wine .. well, for a very basic user it would probably be too hard.

I've installed Linux to few of my relatives too as their computers are pre-built (slow as hell.. Windows lags) and even they found no problems at using them for their very basic needs.

Windows 7 is, what, $90? And anyway, if you're just going to be using it as a media center, or (like most everyone else) almost everything you do is on the cloud nowadays, booting the baby up with a Linux distro that has good UI support (Mint is my recommendation there) is just fine.

As someone who just upgraded and put together a machine for $250 less than an equivalent (actually, marginally inferior) rig would have cost me pre-built, I'm going to second the advice to try building it yourself. This was my first 100% self-built machine, and I was nervous as I put everything together. Really, I was nervous as I picked everything out.

But in the end, it works like a charm, and is serving me quite well. Just do some research, look at what other people building their own machines are doing, and go from there. Gotta start sometime, and I have to say now that my first self-built rig is working great, my confidence is way up, and I'll be doing this every upgrade in the future. And I'm not the most computer-literate guy on the map, that's for sure.

IMO, if you don't want to build your own computer and still want to get value, I'd suggest you check out your local computer shops. Some of them if you buy all the parts from them will help build your PC for you, often for a fee, sometimes (if you're lucky) for free.

They may even offer warranty on top of the individual manufacturer warranties for your parts. Even if they don't you basically have a place to go to when you can't fix something by yourself.

Serious compatibility issues should not be a problem unless you make really stupid mistakes like buying an Intel CPU with an AMD board, but that's very unlikely and the guy at the shop would probably tell you about it right away. If you have time and inclination you can always research online for reviews of each of your parts. At the very least you should look up the prices so you know you aren't being ripped off.

P.S. Very recently I was able to get a Win 7 Professional Upgrade for $35 on an .edu address. It *is* an upgrade and you need a Windows XP or Vista CD around (or do a bit of a registry trick...google for it online), but hey, Windows for cheap. Kind of annoying I had to revive my old hotmail account for it though.

P.P.S. As for what to prioritize, one, get a quadcore CPU, Intel i5 if you can afford it, if not that's fine, a decent Phenom II does handle 10p encodes with ease (unless an encoder is criminally insane). Two, get 4GB of RAM, which you *will* get to use. RAM is really cheap, however, and 8GB can be considered future-proofing, albeit not necessary. Three, buy yourself a good, 80+ bronze rating PSU. A good PSU is a healthy PC, but no need to get overboard with the wattage numbers. The nutjobs who're arguing for a 700w up PSU's are running dual GPUs and think everybody else does too. The efficiency ratings are more important. Four, get a big HD. You watch animu. You need it.

He wants a desktop PC, not a Macbook...

Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's not that self-explanatory. Especially now during a transition period for Linux when everyone's updating their GUI and it's all a mess. Ubuntu, Fedora, all the big distros have kinks all over they've yet to get over.

Sure very basic needs are fine -- so are very advanced needs accompanied by advanced skills to handle it, since you can basically write your own code or look up someone's to do what you want the OS to do -- but somewhere in-between is where all the headache-inducing googling starts.

He doesn't even really want to build his own computer and you're suggesting he migrates to Linux. :heh:

Around here, NCIX offers assembly, testing, and one year system warrenty for $50 + parts. Not sure who offers similar services in the US. Might be worth it if you can get Windows for a decent price... if not, the combined Windows plus assembly cost will eat up most of what you save over going with a regular prebuilt though.

Linux is free. :D

What's the specs of the current PC you're about to upgrade or replace?

Me, to deal with the newfangled High-10 subs while on budget, I'd get an Intel i3 (i5s or i7s tend to be geared for hardcore gamers), 4Gb of memory, a very solid entry-level or midrange motherboard (ASRock, Asus, MSI), a 500gb Western Digital SATA hard drive, and a 300-watt PSU with a 80-plus bronze rating. As those i-series CPUS have an integrated GPU, I think HD video should be no problem to handle (for the TV the board should have HDMI output).

Wireless LAN can be dealt with by buying a USB dongle instead of a PCI card (as some motherboards have two or less slots for smaller mATX case configurations).

If your casing is a standard mid-sized ATX case, you could keep it for the new components.

In my country, $500 goes a long way to build a decent rig.

In my country it is only enough to cover a hard disk and a GTS 5xx card. :heh:

Ubuntu 10.04 is the current stable release with long-term support (through 2014 I believe). It's pretty solid and has had a couple of interim update releases to fix a few remaining bugs.

I'm a KDE user and would recommend Kubuntu 10.10 if you go that route. It's the most stable Ubuntu version with KDE 4.x yet released.

I'd definitely avoid 11.04 with its brand-new interface ("Unity"). You might try 11.10 when it comes out later this month. I'm waiting for 12.04.

Make sure you install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package to get the proprietary codecs like mp3, and install smplayer for video playback.

You can take any Ubuntu release for a test drive by booting from the CD and choosing "Try Ubuntu". It won't make any changes to your machine; it all runs off the CD. Obviously that will be a lot slower than a native installation on your hard drive, but you'll know whether all your hardware is supported and get to see how it works in practice.

I just recently assembled a PC for the first time, I'd say go for it. It's good fun as long as you have access to the internet while working, to decipher the jargon in your mainboard manual and look for additional instructions if needed.

The challenge I found was not getting too excited and properly study the manuals before installing, and the only somewhat tricky parts were applying thermal paste, installing a huge CPU cooler, and aligning all the cables to fit in with that thing. And for the system you want, those things are unnecessary.

And I never said he should migrate to using Ubuntu or the bigger distros. There are ones out there for beginner users too. Mint is a good example that was suggested. I actually don't have experience with other distros than Mint but it was pretty self-explanatory for your basic needs, and those needs easily cover also what the OP wanted. There may be even some better alternatives than Mint but I wouldn't know as I'm a gamer so I don't use Linux myself.

SaintessHeart : I have hard time believing that computer parts would be so expensive because at the moment you can get 1TB HDD with 40€, which in dollars is like 60. And if they truly were so expensive where you live, then you should buy them online.

sa547 : Really now? A 500gb hard drive when 1-2TB are really cheap currently? Given the forum we are at, chances are the OP downloads his anime. If that's the case, you'll want a bit more space than just 500GB. 500GB will cover only few series if you go for the BD quality. I have 5TB of space and it's still not enough.

I disagree about i5-i7 being for hardcore gamers. Casual user can get use out of them too, if you appreciate speed. Though given the budget, I don't think he can go for those. To be honest, though I personally hate AMD, with his budget he would be better off going for AMD way. Perhaps buy Phenom X6 for example, those are quite cheap currently.

There's other things we could discuss too, but frankly first it should be confirmed whether the OP has thought about building it himself or having a pc shop build it for him with the parts he has chosen, or if he is still going to go pre-built way.
But it really is self-explanatory. If you disassemble your current computer which you should if you use the case, you'll pretty much know how to build it again with different parts. I had my friend help me with my rig because I was unsure too, but after building it I knew I could have done it just myself. All parts like RAM and CPU can't be installed wrong .. you just place them on the MB. Then you look at the manual for which wire goes to which slot (most are self explanatory though since there's text on the MB which indicates which wire comes there), and boom you're done.

What would be the benefit?

For the OP
-Web browsing - None. The average low end desktop CPU is far more than fast enough.
-Writing - None. Like web browsing. Word isn't a heavy application
-Playing video - Little right now. Arguably more future proofing, but video is generally well multithreaded which means that the Ph2X6 would be better than most of the i5's.
-Converting video - Faster. Depending on how time sensitive (encode and load onto iPod right before leaving for work vs encode only a few episodes over night) it might be worth it. Though, Ph2X6 is generally better bang for the buck at the lower end of i5/i7 due to multithreading.

Examples of where the i5/i7's really shine
-Heavy Excel spreadsheets. Like the really huge ones. If you don't think Excel can be that resource intensive, you haven't seen one of these bad boys yet.
-Compiling. Then again, the more time spent compiling is the more time spent larping.
-Very high end gaming. The CPU really just needs to keep up with the GPU for gaming, but when you have a quad xfire setup, a high end CPU is required to not be a bottleneck.
-Benchmarking. MOAR NUMBERZ!!! Yeah.

I never said the OP should get i5. I said that I disagree them about being only for hardcore gamers. And I really have no idea what you mean by them being for '' very high end gamers '' or '' quad xfire user '' . Oh look, I have just one GPU and I still use i52500K.

I suggested him Phenom, and I stand behind my word. If you look at the current market and it's prices, Phenom X6 is a good choice, or X4 if you really can't spare extra 20 bucks for more bang. OR, he can go with a pre-built one and get his awesome 2.3ghz dual core processor -_-.

2.3ghz dual core? Even the $350 Acer special that was only available in Canada has a lot more than that (3.1ghz AMD tri core). And the $470 Lenovo unit we were discussing was based on an 3.2ghz AMD quad core (Athlon II X4 650).

I also would be careful about getting a Phenom II X6 if it means getting less clock speed than if you got an X4. Not sure about Mplayer, but I know that CCCP's VSfilter subtitle renderer is highly clock speed dependent and can really burden a system if the subber uses certain effects. And hell, even some video encoding software doesn't really take advantage of more than four cores well.

Heh, it's old. Single 2.4GHz processor(Pentium 4), 512mb RAM, 75GB HDD. It works mostly good, just lags horribly if I have several things open. And also tends to have trouble with those blip.tv streams that people like Spoony and others are tending to use nowadays. Not sure of the other stats(other than it has "powered by Asus" on the front), as it was a custom unit I got at CompUSA before it closed down. Lasted me a long time.

So yeah, if I gotta get something new, I'd like it to last me a long time, too. Future-proofing, as it were.

Still looking around at computers, but I have gotten a lot of useful knowledge and ideas from this tread, so thanks to everyone for that. I have a friend here that's looking for some deals, too.

And yeah, I've considered Linux. Given that I really don't do video games anymore (just emulated old games if at all), I have thought about going totally with a Linux install, possibly Ubuntu. I do use stuff like Open Office and Firefox, no real microsoft programs much anymore, so I think I might be okay. But I'll decide that once I find a computer (whether pre-built or DIY).

@Dist: a 500GB WD platter costs about $45 (or PHP1980) here, according to my favorite dealer. Sometimes certain high-end CPUs are a bit much of an overkill to me, so I thought the i3 is sufficiently powerful enough, considering that I was first shocked at the performance of my brother-in-law's Acer Aspire with an i3 stuck in it, while playing Modern Warfare 2 without a hitch.

@Saintessheart: For the miserly Filipino PC user who wants to game on a budget, $500 is enough to buy competent entry-level parts (CPU, mobo, memory, video, hard drive, an 18.5" monitor, and even a solid PSU) and use them to replace all the outdated innards. :D

@Kaijo: your current rig is almost close to my config (a P4 1.7Ghz/1Gb RAM/80Gb HD, to be retrofitted with a now-cheap P4 2.8Ghz CPU), which, along with the new purchase of extra 512mb for a sufficient performance boost, is enough to serve as an interim machine until next year (I hope).

Ho ho really now? :3

If you don't do anything but navigate the internet, chat, watch movies and play music then yeah get linux. Otherwise, even if someone comes and sets things up for you, you're likely in for some pain.

Also Java and Flash based games run fine on linux, no emulation required. And I'm not talking about browser ones.

Really? From what I could see, Mint was pretty much self explanatory. There was that installation package thing to find and install programs for you if you didn't know/want to do it manually and such.

I don't have much experience with Linux however, so I may be wrong. Even so, it would be worthwhile to use Linux if you won't play games if you can bother to learn the '' basics '' or whatever there is to learn that isn't self-explanatory as according to felix.

1. It's free
2. It's lightweight
3. You don't need AV/Firewall

... There's probably many other reasons too but these three are the reason I would use linux if I was not a gamer.

sa547 : Okay, I was over exaggerating with the dual-core thing for pre-built but still generally it seems for a $500 pre-built you're gonna have less '' bang '' than with DYI even when it comes to CPU. As for the HDD thing ; I do not know where you live.. In fact, we don't even know where Kaijo lives but if you look at Newegg for example, you'll have 1TB for $54, and 2TB for $74. I'd go straight for 2TB as it is only 20 bucks more than 1TB and you'll eventually fill the 1TB so you'll need another one.. (You will, if you download anime and watch 720-1080p).

I found that openSUSE's 1click install worked very reliably and with minimal interaction if not quite 1click. I would assume that more beginner oriented flavors would be even more user friendly.

Kaijo is
-web browsing
-writing stuff
-watching anime

That should be self explanatory. All the apps needed are included with most distros, it doesn't require any advanced configuration. The only issue I think would be WiFi, just run the card to buy past us/a linux forum/use Google for the chipset to make sure its wells supported. AMD graphics drivers aren't as much of a pain as they used to be, but that is probably going to be the hardest part and there shouldn't be any problems following an online guide, they might not even be needed if 3D acceleration isn't much of a concern.