Bleach Q&A
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2005-06-06, 18:01 Now, this is the single most frequently asked question in this forum, so please read the answer! Q. If the people in Soul Society are dead people, then how come they can bleed and all? Is it even possible for a dead person to be killed? Also I found it weird about the aging process there, since some people are over 500 years old, and the 10th division captain is still a kid. Could someone please clarify this for me please! A. The answer to that question is complicated and not fully explained, even in the manga. A lot of people have been discussing it anyway. If you want to discuss the topic or hear what others have had to say, please read the relevant threads. Note that some of them allow spoilers and some do not: Soul Society ? (Anime ONLY, spoilers = BAN) [spoilers] Do Shinigami reproduce? [Manga] Aging in Soul Society (some spoilers) Death in Bleach (Beware SPOILER tags or cry) ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-06-06, 18:16 Thank you, NoSanninWa. My first question is about Zangetsu. Is Zangetsu only part of Ichigo or is he part of the sword that he got from Rukia. Then does that mean Rukia also knows Zangetsu and had the ability to call him out before? Or does the soul cutter change when it changes user? *scratches head* ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-06-06, 18:21 Zangetsu is Ichigo's soul cutter. Previously he was using Rukia's soul cutter, it was simply larger because he put more spirit energy into it than she did. After Byakuya broke the energy center in Ichigo that he needed to channel her power, he lost the use of her (unnamed) soul cutter. After that he had to learn how to channel his OWN shinigami powers. Those powers are now manifested as Zangetsu, his own soul cutter. ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-06-06, 18:26 That makes sense. But when ichigo first pulled out his "sword" from the shinigami-box(?), it was the same busted sword with the missing blade? I'll go on to my second question also in the mean time. If Urahara is banned from Soul Society, how come he gets shipments and stuff and kinda works on Earth with no interference? Is it probably because he's forced to or that Soul Society doesn't hate him, just exiled for breaking the law? Or? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-06-06, 18:31 The sword was busted when he took it out of the box because he still needed to rebuild that energy center in himself. The difference is that it was HIS broken soul cutter, not Rukia's broken soul cutter. As for your second question: I could answer that, except that it would give away points from the manga. If you don't mind reading manga spoilers then read below, but it really will give something away: Some of that stuff he gets from connections he still has within soul society, but only the simple stuff. Urahara probably makes most of it himself. It probably seems impossible to you that he would have such abilities and resources, but he really can do that. You'll learn more about Urahara ________________________________________ Shay 2005-06-07, 07:03 Can Ichigo's soul slayer shape-shift? Simple yes or no will suffice. Thanks. :) ________________________________________ _DT_ 2005-06-07, 08:47 Can Ichigo's soul slayer shape-shift? Simple yes or no will suffice. Thanks. :) It's always remain stuck in it's fully release form ;) ________________________________________ Animizzle 2005-06-07, 10:05 Can Ichigo's soul slayer shape-shift? Simple yes or no will suffice. Thanks. :) Yes it can ________________________________________ Shay 2005-06-07, 17:35 Yes it can Thanks man that's good to hear. :D ________________________________________ nolimit2k5 2005-06-07, 18:00 Alright, here is my question. If Ichigo became a Soul Reaper/Death God by himself in the underground cavern below the "Soul Shop", then why is Rukia unable to revert to a Soul Reaper/Death God again? I recall Renji saying that Rukia will never become "normal" unless Ichigo is dead (during the most recent fight between Ichigo and Renji). ________________________________________ _DT_ 2005-06-07, 20:11 Alright, here is my question. If Ichigo became a Soul Reaper/Death God by himself in the underground cavern below the "Soul Shop", then why is Rukia unable to revert to a Soul Reaper/Death God again? I recall Renji saying that Rukia will never become "normal" unless Ichigo is dead (during the most recent fight between Ichigo and Renji). Don't think too much about it all will become clear in times You click anyway, :eyebrow: I think the answer to that is a somewhat major plot spolier so I I won't tell even in spolier tag :D :heh: :D . I'v been to other forums, where it's spoiler fest it realy ruin the anime experience ________________________________________ somekid 2005-06-07, 20:25 When Ichigo came out of the pit when he finally became a shinigami did the mask have 3 stripes as it does in episode 34? ________________________________________ _DT_ 2005-06-07, 21:39 When Ichigo came out of the pit when he finally became a shinigami did the mask have 3 stripes as it does in episode 34? Screenshot of Bleach anime Episode 19 after he came out of the pit. Click if you want to know (http://img103.echo.cx/my.php?image=mask195bz.png) ________________________________________ jubileerain 2005-06-07, 23:21 Alright, here is my question. If Ichigo became a Soul Reaper/Death God by himself in the underground cavern below the "Soul Shop", then why is Rukia unable to revert to a Soul Reaper/Death God again? I recall Renji saying that Rukia will never become "normal" unless Ichigo is dead (during the most recent fight between Ichigo and Renji). One reason is that the gigai Urahara gave Rukia actually turns her human. It doesn't help restore her Shinigami powers like normal gigai. ________________________________________ Shay 2005-06-09, 18:38 I'm having trouble with the names, dunno why, maybe it's because I'm watching other shows and Bleach is only once a week... Anyway. Is Gin a captain? Is he also known as Ichimaru? Who's who? Seriously. In fact, if someone could post the names of the captains for me I would be most great full. ^^ (+ Rep as a thank you, I guess...) Edit: Pics to go with names would be awesome. :D ________________________________________ Animizzle 2005-06-09, 18:48 Yar Steven my lad, I suggest you type in the search bar "captain guide" and click on the second thread displayed. All shall be clear by then. Oh hell why don't I just link the damn thing :eyespin: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...=captain+guide ________________________________________ Shay 2005-06-09, 18:55 Yar Steven my lad, I suggest you type in the search bar "captain guide" and click on the second thread displayed. All shall be clear by then. Oh hell why don't I just link the damn thing :eyespin: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...=captain+guide :o Shoot me! I'm finding this (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=34530) thread answers my Queries as well. :o Edit by NoSanninWa: Consider Shay SHOT for failing to utilize the search function. Update: It was only a flesh wound. He'll live. ________________________________________ Keitaro 2005-06-10, 03:13 Just how powerful is Rukia. Shouldn't she be as powerful as Renji or greater? After watching eps 33 - 35, Renji and the 2 friends he went to school together are now Vice Captains in different squads. To make it simple is she just weak or is she really powerful? In Renji's flashback episode of the past, Rukia showed the most potential of spirit power. I find it hard to imagine that Rukia is actually weaker then Renji. ________________________________________ owatariryo 2005-06-10, 03:45 i don't think rukai was ever a VC in the past... ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-06-10, 09:22 Just how powerful is Rukia. Shouldn't she be as powerful as Renji or greater? After watching eps 33 - 35, Renji and the 2 friends he went to school together are now Vice Captains in different squads. To make it simple is she just weak or is she really powerful? In Renji's flashback episode of the past, Rukia showed the most potential of spirit power. I find it hard to imagine that Rukia is actually weaker then Renji. It's possible her raw talent was greater than Renji's when they were kids, but he was able to develop his better. It's not that unnatural. They were all in the advanced class together. Rukia wasn't in the class ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-06-10, 11:07 Question about Urahara Kisuke, the shopkeeper. First we see that Ichigo that he doesn't really have Shinigami abilities or good strength when he's in his normal body, right? That means you have to be a spirit to use the Zanpaktou. But how come Urahara is able to use his Zanpaktou, even though we never really see him get into a spirit form? How come he's still so powerful in a normal body? Or is he always in the spirit form? I think i missed something... ________________________________________ LightningZERO 2005-06-10, 11:49 manga spoiler question What happens to Ishida? Did he lost all his power when he removed the glove? ________________________________________ owatariryo 2005-06-10, 11:53 manga spoiler question What happens to Ishida? Did he lost all his power when he removed the glove up till now, yes. but it may seemed that he's lost too much power in the fight against mayuri to recover 100% in this lifetime so... in the future, maybe a miracle will happen? ________________________________________ KanaKaishou 2005-06-10, 17:09 Why is there nobody in the stronger than Vice-Captain/Lieutenant, weaker than Captain range? Surely, the strongest Vice-Captain ought to be able to beat/Give a serious threat to the weakest Captain. It would make more sense if there were 20-30 Vice-Captains, and 10 Captains. Alternatively, is it that only 13 (the Captains) have "kicked it up a notch" and the 13 Vice-Captains are just the best of the previous level. This doesn't make sense though--Renji seems like he could beat all of the 3-5 rankers we've seen without a second thought. ________________________________________ Bronwen Stx 2005-06-10, 21:41 Why is there nobody in the stronger than Vice-Captain/Lieutenant, weaker than Captain range? Surely, the strongest Vice-Captain ought to be able to beat/Give a serious threat to the weakest Captain. It would make more sense if there were 20-30 Vice-Captains, and 10 Captains. Alternatively, is it that only 13 (the Captains) have "kicked it up a notch" and the 13 Vice-Captains are just the best of the previous level. This doesn't make sense though--Renji seems like he could beat all of the 3-5 rankers we've seen without a second thought. It certainly would make sense if there were more vice-captains but as it is - assuming that you're an anime-watcher only - the captains are fully capable of taking care of themselves that, really, it doesn't seem necessary to have more VC. It's all in Kubo Tite's hands to see if he's going to create a VC in the range you're talking about. And trust me in that just because some Captains looks lame or weak from a perspective it doesn't mean they can't kick a strong VC's ass. Don't judge until you've fully seen their capabilities, IMO. They're strong Captains, I'll leave it as that. Of course, I might've interpreted your questions wrong but maybe that's cause I haven't slept in awhile so I hope this is the answer that you were looking for. ^^ ________________________________________ Sokar 2005-06-11, 01:03 Why is there nobody in the stronger than Vice-Captain/Lieutenant, weaker than Captain range? Surely, the strongest Vice-Captain ought to be able to beat/Give a serious threat to the weakest Captain. It would make more sense if there were 20-30 Vice-Captains, and 10 Captains. Alternatively, is it that only 13 (the Captains) have "kicked it up a notch" and the 13 Vice-Captains are just the best of the previous level. This doesn't make sense though--Renji seems like he could beat all of the 3-5 rankers we've seen without a second thought. Maybe there's something fundamentally different between vice captains and captains. Like in Hunter x Hunter, where Nen was the big different between Hunters and non-Hunters. It seems like the big difference here is "will power" or something like that. Ichigo got the will power and he beat Renji instantaneously. The difference was simply huge, so if the captains have mastered this willpower thing then they'll be more powerful than Ichigo, and that would mean they'll complete destroy all vice-captains. So basically you got this "will power" you're a captain, you don't, you're vice-captain. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-06-11, 01:59 Concerning the power levels between VC and Captain. Captains do have something that VCs don't have. I won't say what it is, because that would be a spoiler. It's something a lot more definable than "willpower." I'd say that the difference between VCs and the rank-and-file shinigami is a combination of willpower, talent and skill. VCs are just super strong shinigami. Question about Urahara Kisuke, the shopkeeper. First we see that Ichigo that he doesn't really have Shinigami abilities or good strength when he's in his normal body, right? That means you have to be a spirit to use the Zanpaktou. But how come Urahara is able to use his Zanpaktou, even though we never really see him get into a spirit form? How come he's still so powerful in a normal body? Or is he always in the spirit form? I think i missed something... Because he's always in his spirit body. He's a normal Shinigami like Rukia was before she lost her powers. ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-06-11, 16:12 Because he's always in his spirit body. He's a normal Shinigami like Rukia was before she lost her powers. Ooo, so normal people can't see Urahara? ________________________________________ Bronwen Stx 2005-06-12, 00:25 Ooo, so normal people can't see Urahara? Normal people can see Urahara. He's probably wearing a gigai like Rukia but to the extent that he can use his Shinigami powers or that his gigai is modify to fit his needs. ________________________________________ dajoro 2005-06-12, 10:44 What manga chapters go in volumes 14 - 17? ________________________________________ Animizzle 2005-06-12, 11:06 What manga chapters go in volumes 14 - 17? 116-151 but the official volume index hasn't been announced. So bear that in mind ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-06-12, 12:47 Which chapter has the image of a bunch of characters in black suits lounging around? A lot were sitting down and Hinamori and Hitsugaya were in the back... I think it's either a chapter cover or an omake... dont know which chapter it was though. If you can't find out which chapter, could someone possibly give me that image ;). ________________________________________ Omniscient 2005-06-12, 14:26 You mean this one? http://img185.echo.cx/img185/4997/manga0217xo0vh.th.jpg (http://img185.echo.cx/my.php?image=manga0217xo0vh.jpg) ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-06-12, 21:49 You mean this one? http://img185.echo.cx/img185/4997/manga0217xo0vh.th.jpg (http://img185.echo.cx/my.php?image=manga0217xo0vh.jpg) Awesome, thanks! ________________________________________ hi no ken Jebus 2005-06-12, 22:32 Awesome, thanks! That one is from a calendar there's a few more that are pretty cool. I think it might have been an omake or something somewhere else. ________________________________________ Ebichuman 2005-06-16, 01:34 I have a couple questions regarding old man Yama... 1. Is he the one and only leader of Soul Society? Seems like he is, I'm just not 100% on that. 2. If so, does he have any way of keeping the other captains in check? ________________________________________ Bronwen Stx 2005-06-16, 01:51 I have a couple questions regarding old man Yama... 1. Is he the one and only leader of Soul Society? Seems like he is, I'm just not 100% on that. 2. If so, does he have any way of keeping the other captains in check? You know, that's a good question. From what I've gathered; 1. No, I don't think he is. After all the 46? Council Members are the one that seems to decide things. But he is the leader of the 13 Divisions I think. I have no clue about number 2 though. ________________________________________ Jingjong 2005-06-16, 02:31 Does anyone have the kanji versions of the sword names? You can just limit it to the ones we've seen so far in the anime if you'd like. ________________________________________ Animizzle 2005-06-16, 03:35 I have a couple questions regarding old man Yama... 1. Is he the one and only leader of Soul Society? Seems like he is, I'm just not 100% on that. 2. If so, does he have any way of keeping the other captains in check? I think you have to think of OM Yama like a General with some political influence. He's the leader of the military system in Soul Society but doesn't rule it in a sense like the center 46 does, they are similar to a senate As for the second question. I believe Soul Society works with written and unwritten rules. It is assumed that all captain's follow rules and make their subordinates follow them, quite like the military. He's the leader, and puts trust in his captain's, whether that's grounded or not. ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-06-16, 11:52 You mean this one? http://img185.echo.cx/img185/4997/manga0217xo0vh.th.jpg (http://img185.echo.cx/my.php?image=manga0217xo0vh.jpg) That was originally the cover for the 100 issue character poll omake. Those were the top 10 choices; you can see the order they came in and the number of votes they each got in the tiny print at the bottom. ________________________________________ Ebichuman 2005-06-16, 12:14 center 46 does, they are similar to a senate Is that from the manga then? I don't recall hearing anything about it in the anime, although I may have missed it... or just forgotten about it. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-06-16, 16:40 Is that from the manga then? I don't recall hearing anything about it in the anime, although I may have missed it... or just forgotten about it. Yes, it is mentioned in a future episode of the manga. It is a spoiler. ________________________________________ jhcl 2005-06-17, 00:20 Do they age as shinigami? Like we see Rukia and Renji in their childhood and they were spirits at that point, yet when we meet the parakeet again his 'brother' has been there since the 1940s or something and he is still a little kid? Also how do you get a noble family in Soul Society? I mean if souls come from the human world how is it possible that there is such a thing as a noble family in soul society? Does that mean the spirits themselves can still reproduce? ________________________________________ what/why 2005-06-17, 01:02 Is that from the manga then? I don't recall hearing anything about it in the anime, although I may have missed it... or just forgotten about it. Its not a spoiler, its just their government. ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-06-18, 15:29 Originally Posted by jhcl Do they age as shinigami? Like we see Rukia and Renji in their childhood and they were spirits at that point, yet when we meet the parakeet again his 'brother' has been there since the 1940s or something and he is still a little kid? Souls in SS grow old if their spiritual pressure grow that means children like parakeet kid's bro won't grow, but as Renji, Rukia or Ganju train their power so they grow old :) (Rukia looks like a teenager because she's weak :heh: ) ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-06-18, 18:30 Souls in SS grow old if their spiritual pressure grow that means children like parakeet kid's bro won't grow, but as Renji, Rukia or Ganju train their power so they grow old :) (Rukia looks like a teenager because she's weak :heh: ) If that's true, then how do you explain the Vice-Captain of the 11th? She looks like a tiny girl, but I find it hard to believe Kenpachi's VC could possibly be weak. ________________________________________ Daniel E. 2005-06-18, 20:01 I was watching one of the old episodes yesterday (eps. 15, Lunar version) and I noticed that at 7:08, Kon says the following while refering to Orihime: She's as kind as Kwanyin... And so my question appears; What does Kwanyin means? ________________________________________ [DOT].L 2005-06-18, 21:23 I was watching one of the old episodes yesterday (eps. 15, Lunar version) and I noticed that at 7:08, Kon says the following while refering to Orihime: She's as kind as Kwanyin... And so my question appears; What does Kwanyin means? I'm guessing the Kwanyin here refers a buddist diety... the goddess of mercy? the only problem I see with this explaination is in Japan kwanyin is known as Kannon, so why is Kon using Kwanyin instead of Kannon..? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-06-19, 02:23 .L']I'm guessing the Kwanyin here refers a buddist diety... the goddess of mercy? the only problem I see with this explaination is in Japan kwanyin is known as Kannon, so why is Kon using Kwanyin instead of Kannon..? Because oriental cultures aren't as obsessive about only using a single set of dieties. It isn't really odd in Japan for a Shinto or a Christian to invoke a Bhuddist diety like Kwan Yin. ________________________________________ Daniel E. 2005-06-19, 04:20 The goddess of mercy eh!? I must say, I wasn't to far off myself. "as kind as an angel" was my first guess. :p Thanks for clearing that up (both of you :) ) ________________________________________ Jingjong 2005-06-19, 04:57 Because oriental cultures aren't as obsessive about only using a single set of dieties. It isn't really odd in Japan for a Shinto or a Christian to invoke a Bhuddist diety like Kwan Yin. I think he was asking more why they used the Chinese pronounciation (Kwan Yin) versus the Japanese (Kannon). Here's a link about Kannon with pictures of the forms he/she can take. http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/kannon.shtml ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-06-19, 16:31 Originally Posted by NoSanninWa If that's true, then how do you explain the Vice-Captain of the 11th? She looks like a tiny girl, but I find it hard to believe Kenpachi's VC could possibly be weak. as we both know Ken-chan's VC was really small when they met, but japanese people are short and and maybe she's enought cute to still look like a child and she's supose to look like a 18-20 (which still make her look realy young)... the other reason might be that she don't have to be THAT increadably strong to grow old in such a short time (but we don't know long they've been together) she got Ken-chan by her side so she don't have to force herself on her training after she reached the VC level (at least with speed... or maybe almost Capitan in this) and like Ken-chan Zaraki don't train too, and the proof is that he wants to be stronger just after the fight with Ichigo so he didn't wanted it for a long time :D ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-06-19, 19:19 If that's true, then how do you explain the Vice-Captain of the 11th? She looks like a tiny girl, but I find it hard to believe Kenpachi's VC could possibly be weak. Well, we do know they met when she was a baby, so she HAS grown. My guess is that souls age about a 1/10th of the rate of a living human. That's how Rukia, who claims to be 10x as old as Ichigo, can fit in as a high-schooler. As for the people with low/no spiritual pressure, we really don't know if they don't grow. Yes, Parakeet's "brother" has been there for 60 years, but if you use the same scale as Rukia, then it is plausible that he would still be a kid. ________________________________________ rorosama 2005-06-21, 16:00 Yachiru has been a vice captain for at least 10 years so i'll guess she had to have some sort of fighting skill to be his vc so i'll bet she's at least 20 since rukia has been a kuchiki for 40 years and still looks the same from when she joined the family, so i'm gonna guess kids stay kids for like 20 years? ________________________________________ karai 2005-06-21, 23:00 I believe that "aging" in the Soul Society is relative to the individual, what kind of spirit they are, their spirit power, and how they ended up in the Soul Society. I don't believe it is possible for someone there to "die" of "old age", because they are spirits in the first place. Everyone probably appears in the physical form they were in when they first died, and depending on who they are/their spiritual power, either remain the same, grow a bit, or take on the appearance of someone elderly (though we've only seen a few so far) -- that is, it's not entirely involuntary. Appearance isn't really a big thing in the Soul Society as compared to corporeal earth -- my theory being that there, as well as in the physical realm of earth, appearance is just a way of saturating your self in a way that you can easily communicate with others and your environment.[/2 cents] ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-06-22, 01:20 The whole thing is easily explained through the law of narative causality... i.e. it's 'cuz the author said so. ________________________________________ KanaKaishou 2005-06-25, 23:26 Okay, Anime question: Is Kenpachi's sword already "released"? It would make perfect sense--Ichigo's spirit energy keeps his soul slayer released, even when he is unconcious (or something like that, we haven't seen him "unrelease" it), so, certainly Kenpachi's is also released. If so, ;_;, 'cuz we;ll never see Kenpachi with a more badass/creative weapon. ________________________________________ [DOT].L 2005-06-25, 23:40 Seeing that spoilers are allowed in the Q&A, I'll try answering. Ichigo's zanpakutou is strange. It doesn't seem to have a Shikai (initial release), and is always in huge-ass mode. It could be that Ichigo's spirit power is so abundant the sword is always in Shikai mode. Now this was never fully explained in the manga either, so no-one really knows. (if I'm wrong someone correct me please) Kenpachi's weapon, on the other hand, is said to be a low-class zanpakutou that has no name. Therefore, it cannot be "released." If memory serves, Ichigo asks Kenpachi the name of his zanpakutou, and Kenpachi replies: "Name? What name?" It is possible that Kenpachi never had to tap into his sword's power because of his already overwhelming spirit pressure. Again, no-one knows for sure whether Ken's sword is capable of "releases" or not. ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-06-26, 09:54 Originally Posted by [DOT].L said to be a low-class zanpakutou that has no name. Therefore, it cannot be "released." If memory serves, Ichigo asks Kenpachi the name of his zanpakutou, and Kenpachi replies: "Name? What name?" It is possible that Kenpachi never had to tap into his sword's power because of his already overwhelming spirit pressure. Again, no-one knows for sure whether Ken's sword is capable of "releases" or not. Originally Posted by Animizzle More or less, but actually, he said his spirit power was so powerfull no seal could surpress it. Therefore sealing his sword is simply unnecessary. Ken Chan fight without learning his zanpakutous's name, because he is enough strong without it, but after he was deafeated by Ichigo he tried to ask his sword a name and that means that as every shinigami he can learn realese of zanpakutou, but he never wanted to do it so... I mean he still could learn realese but he still has the time so maybe when we see him next time fighting some Menos Grande or something he will use realese or even Ban Kai :D which will be Hella stronger then he was till now :D ________________________________________ raikage 2005-06-27, 17:23 .L']Seeing that spoilers are allowed in the Q&A, I'll try answering. Ichigo's zanpakutou is strange. It doesn't seem to have a Shikai (initial release), and is always in huge-ass mode. It could be that Ichigo's spirit power is so abundant the sword is always in Shikai mode. Now this was never fully explained in the manga either, so no-one really knows. (if I'm wrong someone correct me please) Kenpachi's weapon, on the other hand, is said to be a low-class zanpakutou that has no name. Therefore, it cannot be "released." If memory serves, Ichigo asks Kenpachi the name of his zanpakutou, and Kenpachi replies: "Name? What name?" It is possible that Kenpachi never had to tap into his sword's power because of his already overwhelming spirit pressure. Again, no-one knows for sure whether Ken's sword is capable of "releases" or not. From what I understand, every sword has a name. Ichigo's blade, Zangetsu, even remarked that Kenpachi's sword was howling (or something like that) because the blade and its owner don't have the synchronization (for lack of a better term) that many of the shinigami have with their zanpakutou. It is entirely possible that Kenpachi doesn't have 'it', whatever 'it' is, that lets him communicate with his weapon. ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-06-27, 18:09 About Ken-chan's Zanpakutou If he somehow managed to talk with his sword's soul and then release it he would be having it in full-release mode cause he has lots of free power like a orange boy :D ________________________________________ noir senshi 2005-06-27, 23:45 How do you say 5th(any number will do) squad captain and 5th squad lieutenant in japanese? The romaji will be nice :) ________________________________________ dgb001 2005-07-02, 02:18 is there an info site like the one with Naruto where it explain everything in details? if yes, can I please have the link? ________________________________________ stubbornpoop 2005-07-02, 03:07 here is two questions of my own that might be spoilers or maybe not...but just in case: 1-do we know what rank rukia was before she met ichigo? it was briefly touched upon earlier in this thread but not really answered. liek said earlier, as children, rukia was way stronger than renji which implied (if it was planning on following a regular anime plot-line) that she would end up way stronger than him, but there has been no evidence that she was a VC or captain so...whats up with it? 2-whats the deal with the cat guy? why does he talk (lol) and what's his reasons for wanting to go to SS? don't answer if it is relevent to the ENTIRE plot of bleach, thus ruining my faith in human-kind, and more importantly anime. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-07-02, 03:37 here is two questions of my own that might be spoilers or maybe not...but just in case: 1-do we know what rank rukia was before she met ichigo? it was briefly touched upon earlier in this thread but not really answered. liek said earlier, as children, rukia was way stronger than renji which implied (if it was planning on following a regular anime plot-line) that she would end up way stronger than him, but there has been no evidence that she was a VC or captain so...whats up with it? Rukia was not a Vice-Captain though I'm not sure what her exact rank was. (The C and the VC of the 13th Squad were other people you'll eventually learn about.) It seems that Renji managed to surpass her by a good bit. 2-whats the deal with the cat guy? why does he talk (lol) and what's his reasons for wanting to go to SS? It does give away something to tell you what Yoruichi's connection to Soul Society is and why Yoruichi can talk. I'd recommend that you don't click on the spoiler below because it is really cool when you find out in the story, but just telling you won't be even a tiny little bit cool. Yoruichi is a shinigami who can take the form of a cat. That should answer your question. I'll let you find out the rest of Yoruichi's story by watching the show. ________________________________________ Jingjong 2005-07-02, 03:42 How do you say 5th(any number will do) squad captain and 5th squad lieutenant in japanese? The romaji will be nice :) Gobantai taicho gobantai fukutaicho ________________________________________ Kyuuen 2005-07-02, 03:54 Question: Who are the two short Shinigamis who are present along with Squad 13 Captain during the ending song? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-07-02, 03:58 Question: Who are the two short Shinigamis who are present along with Squad 13 Captain during the ending song? You'll find out soon enough. You'll really be much more happy if you wait to find out about the 13th Squad since that answer is relevant to the plot. (I'd rather not even give names because sometimes people type things and then this information will line up with something else that was talked about...) ________________________________________ stubbornpoop 2005-07-02, 12:50 heres another question. Does the plot (or will it) ever go past saving rukia? like if ichigo saves her will the series end and that's that or will a new plot form? ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-07-02, 13:57 heres another question. Does the plot (or will it) ever go past saving rukia? like if ichigo saves her will the series end and that's that or will a new plot form? There's a new plot now. ________________________________________ Kyuuen 2005-07-03, 19:07 You'll find out soon enough. You'll really be much more happy if you wait to find out about the 13th Squad since that answer is relevant to the plot. (I'd rather not even give names because sometimes people type things and then this information will line up with something else that was talked about...) Actually, i read the manga, but i dun recall seeing those two shinigamis before, i'm not refering to Kaien btw. ________________________________________ Bahamut89 2005-07-04, 18:18 1-do we know what rank rukia was before she met ichigo? it was briefly touched upon earlier in this thread but not really answered. liek said earlier, as children, rukia was way stronger than renji which implied (if it was planning on following a regular anime plot-line) that she would end up way stronger than him, but there has been no evidence that she was a VC or captain so...whats up with it?. My assumption was that Rukia is good at Demon Magic but not very good at sword fighting. So the flashback showed her having more control of her spirit energy, which is still true. Unfortunately for her, it seems like most of the high ranks belong to people who are good at sword fighting. ________________________________________ Sokar 2005-07-05, 01:23 The difference between Rukia and Renji's power can be explained pretty easily. Renji worked his ass off because of his goal of overcoming Byakuya, where Rukia wasn't working very hard. In the flashbacks we see Renji training hard, and Rukia feeling sorry for herself because people treat her differently because of her new noble status. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-07-06, 00:33 Question: Who are the two short Shinigamis who are present along with Squad 13 Captain during the ending song? they are 3rd seats Spoiler:
Yoruichi is a shinigami who can take the form of a cat. That should answer your question. I'll let you find out the rest of Yoruichi's story by watching the show.
this is wrong, yoruichi is not a shinigami, she does not even have a soul slayer, she just super fast and has a lot of artifacts. The difference between Rukia and Renji's power can be explained pretty easily. Renji worked his ass off because of his goal of overcoming Byakuya, where Rukia wasn't working very hard. In the flashbacks we see Renji training hard, and Rukia feeling sorry for herself because people treat her differently because of her new noble status. plus the fact that she had an incident with her superior that scarred her ________________________________________ Bronwen Stx 2005-07-06, 00:41 this is wrong, yoruichi is not a shinigami, she does not even have a soul slayer, she just super fast and has a lot of artifacts. Uh. WRONG. Yoruichi was the previous captain of Division Two, and her ex VC was Soi Fong who is now captain of Division 2. Read the manga again, you're getting your facts wrong. She is a shinigami as NSW said! :eyebrow: Read Chapter 116+ where Rukia explains who she is. Okay, she hasn't revealed her sword though...I don't think she needs a reason to. ________________________________________ caven 2005-07-08, 03:08 From what I understand, every sword has a name. Ichigo's blade, Zangetsu, even remarked that Kenpachi's sword was howling (or something like that) because the blade and its owner don't have the synchronization (for lack of a better term) that many of the shinigami have with their zanpakutou. It is entirely possible that Kenpachi doesn't have 'it', whatever 'it' is, that lets him communicate with his weapon. I think I payed attention so here's my theories on Ichigo and Kenpachi's zanpakuto's: Ichigo: His is sealed right now. It's just that big because his normal spiritual pressure is still too much for him to truly keep bottled up/under control. When he releases it by yelling out zangetsu like all the other shinigamis it should take on a completely different form. Kenpachi: His only looks like a low level in the same way as Ichigo's first sword looked like Rukia's. It isn't his swords true form. In a sense I think it has to get broken down like Ichigo's does. Then he has to go through a process similar to Ichigo in which he gets a new sword and learns its name and so on and so forth. His current sword as we learned in the most recent episode, feels the exact opposite of kenpachi. Maybe it doesnt like to fight as much or it feels differently about whose stronger or where he gets his strength from. We do know though that his sword howls because "When two people of great spiritual force disagree they clash." so kenpachi and his sword dont agree and his sword is howling because of it. But kenpachi is like a god so he doesnt hear it. His sword isnt released either for him I really do believe in its current form it really is just a tool. On this level he is weaker than ichigo but if he releases it, unless ichigo gets stronger, he'll be way stronger than ichigo. ________________________________________ Bahamut89 2005-07-08, 03:30 I think I payed attention so here's my theories on Ichigo and Kenpachi's zanpakuto's: Ichigo: His is sealed right now. It's just that big because his normal spiritual pressure is still too much for him to truly keep bottled up/under control. When he releases it by yelling out zangetsu like all the other shinigamis it should take on a completely different form. Kenpachi: His only looks like a low level in the same way as Ichigo's first sword looked like Rukia's. It isn't his swords true form. In a sense I think it has to get broken down like Ichigo's does. Then he has to go through a process similar to Ichigo in which he gets a new sword and learns its name and so on and so forth. His current sword as we learned in the most recent episode, feels the exact opposite of kenpachi. Maybe it doesnt like to fight as much or it feels differently about whose stronger or where he gets his strength from. We do know though that his sword howls because "When two people of great spiritual force disagree they clash." so kenpachi and his sword dont agree and his sword is howling because of it. But kenpachi is like a god so he doesnt hear it. His sword isnt released either for him I really do believe in its current form it really is just a tool. On this level he is weaker than ichigo but if he releases it, unless ichigo gets stronger, he'll be way stronger than ichigo. It's always released. That's pretty obvious. He called it's name when he first released it and simply never put it back. He either can't or doesn't know how, it doesn't really matter. It's obviously not a level 0 sword or in sealed form or however you want to call it it because it looks completely from everyone else's. You may have noticed that all Zanpakutou look like normal katana when not released. Even Ichigo's did, although it was much larger. It's size seems to be a plot hole, but I'd assume that it was large simply because he feels comfortable with a large sword. Additionally, his sword has an ability in this form, unreleased swords have no abilities Kenpachi's sword has no name because he's never asked it. Much like Ichigo in the beginning. It screams because it's being used as a tool without a name, and Kenpachi can't hear it because he has no connection to it or any other sword. This is just the way I interpreted it, I have no evidence like I did for Ichigo's. Other the other hand, this means Kenpachi is completely all-powerful compared to other shinigami. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-07-08, 04:01 Uh. WRONG. Yoruichi was the previous captain of Division Two, and her ex VC was Soi Fong who is now captain of Division 2. Read the manga again, you're getting your facts wrong. She is a shinigami as NSW said! :eyebrow: Read Chapter 116+ where Rukia explains who she is. Okay, she hasn't revealed her sword though...I don't think she needs a reason to. uh no, I've talked about it already, Yoruichi was not part of the Gotei 13, aka she was not the 2nd division captain. She was the head of the special ops division and the brigadier general.http://img220.echo.cx/img220/4302/ma...ch130107qv.png ________________________________________ Bronwen Stx 2005-07-08, 04:30 Ah, I apologize, that was my mistake, Morisato . But Soi Fong is Captain of the 2nd Division now. |
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2005-07-08, 12:17 *sigh* We did all this in the other thread. This sequence implies something completely different. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...j/Yoruichi.gif Just like I said before, since there seems to be an inconsistancy in the translations, we would have to find raw Japanese scans to settle anything. ________________________________________ hi no ken Jebus 2005-07-08, 15:28 *sigh* We did all this in the other thread. This sequence implies something completely different. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...j/Yoruichi.gif Just like I said before, since there seems to be an inconsistancy in the translations, we would have to find raw Japanese scans to settle anything. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25.../bleach154.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25...ACH15_0136.jpg Have fun :) . What I got from it was that her division had not been incorporated into the Gotei yet so technically she wasnt a captain. She was however the leader of her division and soi fong her second in command but did not have the title of captain but thats what I took away. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-07-08, 17:08 *sigh* We did all this in the other thread. This sequence implies something completely different. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...j/Yoruichi.gif Just like I said before, since there seems to be an inconsistancy in the translations, we would have to find raw Japanese scans to settle anything. It says right there, the two divisions got merged together. 2nd division was the militia, and covert was separate. ________________________________________ Sokar 2005-07-10, 02:14 This Yoruichi thing is still going on. No one knows if Yoruichi is a shinigami or not, being part of special ops doesn't mean she isn't a shinigami. No where does it say you have to be part of Gotei 13 to be a shinigami After all Ichigo is a shinigami now, and he's not part of the Gotei 13 Also, in the picture where Yoruichi and Urahara was training together, Yoruichi clearly have a sword with her. ________________________________________ NightWalker XI 2005-07-10, 13:38 I have noticed some of you are using animated gif avatars and sigs that show animations of thigns like byakuya using his special zanpakutou attack wityh the blossom etc and hytsaguya or whatever the young captain is called using his powers too but that hasn;t been aired yet....how have u gotten it!? *very confused* ________________________________________ _DT_ 2005-07-10, 13:46 To answer NightWalker I have noticed some of you are using animated gif avatars and sigs that show animations of thigns like byakuya using his special zanpakutou attack wityh the blossom etc and hytsaguya or whatever the young captain is called using his powers too but that hasn;t been aired yet....how have u gotten it!? *very confused* It come from the Bleach OVA: Memories in the Rain / Jump Festa 2004 the one that contain spoilier. It contain a "trailer/preview" at the end where they showoff some of the captains ________________________________________ outlawkun 2005-07-13, 11:27 Hiya, i was wondering if you guys can help me figure out what music was playing in the Bleach OVA. It was at the cemetary right after Rukia tells Ichi to calm down, then he gets mad and this music starts playing. Thank you :D ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-07-16, 07:34 Okay, I've got a few questions about the story... Hell Plus spirits are sent to SS, and slain hollows are also sent there, after beeing purified, but there was this one hollow, who was sent to hell... now how does "hell" fit into it? When the Quincys were introduced, it was told, that there is a balance between the souls in SS and the human world and the Quincys were disturbing the balance by destroying souls... but what about the souls which go to hell? Aren't they also lost? Soul Society's aging Shortly after Ichigo's group arrive in soul society, they meet with the boy which was a bird before, and they are told, that those ghosts who arrive in SS stay the way they were, when they died, forever and they won't age... also they get to know, that those pople create Fake families to compensate for the "real" (humal life's) ones, they can't find. Now a few episodes later we see flashbacks of several people in SS who obviously aged, like Rukia and Renji, and there also seem to be real families, like the noble clans, and the Shibas, which seem closer than a fake family. So if they age, there are obviously other rules applied then for those ghosts like the bird-boy. Is it possible, that those people are able to reproduce, and the ones ageing are simple the ones who were born as babies into SS? Hiding a Shinigami Ever since entering the city of the Shinigami I was wondering, why everyone immediately identified Ichigo as one of the Intruders, since he obviously doesn't only look like a Shinigami, but also has their powers. So I thought maybe they can feel somehow that he is an intruder... but what do I have to see: Inoue and Ishida prevented themselves from detection by putting on Shinigami's clothes!! :twitch: So how can they be able to decieve the guards, while Ichigo who basically IS a Shinigami wasn't? :frustrated: Plothole? The hidden trainig room Yoruichi rescues Ichigo from Byakuya and both went to the underground training room... shortly after, Renji arrives there for his own training... Now I wonder: Wasn't this room supposed to be hidden and shielded? How could Renji find them there and more importantly: If Renji was able to find them, why was nobody else? After all they are still the intruders and have to be arrested. Death in Soul Society Are Shinigami really able to die? We see them slice each other untill they loose tons of blood, they get stabbed and the clown guy even gets blown away his whole torso... but all of them recover in less then a day. Why do they even try to kill each other, if it obviously doesn't have any effect at all? And if there is a way to kill, why don't they go for a sure one? Aizen's victory? Do you think Aizen really got the real device, he was looking for? Actually he was very well informed, knowing that Ichigo's group will come to the rescue and that Urahara helped them and all, but on the other hand... Urahara isn't stupid also... he was in contact with Rukia for nearly the whole time, she was on earth (2-3 month), so couldn't he just have replaced the original one by a faked one? Okay, it wouldn't really make an interessting story if after this long arc the bad guys suddenly just got a dummy, but it's frustrating enough, that all the bad guys got away without even suffering a loss. Speaking of Aizen's group: I wonder why the clown-guy wasn't a part of it... he seems to be interessted the most in wierd experiments. Unlimited Power?? Aizen said, that by becoming a hollow, the Shinigami is able to surpass his limits... Now does it mean, that those beeings have no limits at all ("hello, boundless ridiculous powerups"), or is it just, that those beeings have much higher limits? BTW, hollows and Shinigami both are originally human souls, so shouldn't the combination become human also? Return to the human world Wasn't it suspicious, that there were flying some kids and a strange old guy around in mid-air on some sort of carpet? And why did Urahara know the exact place and time to wait for their return? And about Kon: Why (and since when) was he in Ichigo's body? Ichigo left his body under Urahara's store, and everyone thought, that he was on some sort of journey. ________________________________________ PastPrime 2005-07-16, 11:16 Is there any mention anywhere of Ichigo having any relatives other than his immediate family? I don't remember any other than his father, mother, and sisters. ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-07-16, 12:16 Okay, I've got a few questions about the story... Hell Plus spirits are sent to SS, and slain hollows are also sent there, after beeing purified, but there was this one hollow, who was sent to hell... now how does "hell" fit into it? When the Quincys were introduced, it was told, that there is a balance between the souls in SS and the human world and the Quincys were disturbing the balance by destroying souls... but what about the souls which go to hell? Aren't they also lost? Soul Society is a somewhat buddhist interpretation of the afterlife, a place for souls to rest until they reenter the cycle of reincarnation. Hell, on the other hand, is a Christian interpretation of death, once you go you don't come back. Presumably the only souls that go there are the ones that the person/persons (whoever that might be) in charge do not want returning. Soul Society's aging Shortly after Ichigo's group arrive in soul society, they meet with the boy which was a bird before, and they are told, that those ghosts who arrive in SS stay the way they were, when they died, forever and they won't age... also they get to know, that those pople create Fake families to compensate for the "real" (humal life's) ones, they can't find. Now a few episodes later we see flashbacks of several people in SS who obviously aged, like Rukia and Renji, and there also seem to be real families, like the noble clans, and the Shibas, which seem closer than a fake family. So if they age, there are obviously other rules applied then for those ghosts like the bird-boy. Is it possible, that those people are able to reproduce, and the ones ageing are simple the ones who were born as babies into SS? This debate is ongoing, but I for one don't think babies are born into SS. You call them "fake families", but if you live with and support each other for a couple hundred years, I imagine a pretty good bond can grow. For that matter, very few families in this world were born that way. Husband and wife, at least, have to meet each other somewhere and develop that connection, and despite the TV dramas, most adopted children receive as much love as if they had been born to that family. Anyway, as for aging, the simplist answer seems to be that, like eating, only those with sufficient spirit energy are able to pull it off. Even then, time still seems to be a factor, and even then, there seem to be some inconsistancies. Basically, shinigami can grow up, whether they do or not seems to be a choice of the character designer more than anything else. Hiding a Shinigami Ever since entering the city of the Shinigami I was wondering, why everyone immediately identified Ichigo as one of the Intruders, since he obviously doesn't only look like a Shinigami, but also has their powers. So I thought maybe they can feel somehow that he is an intruder... but what do I have to see: Inoue and Ishida prevented themselves from detection by putting on Shinigami's clothes!! :twitch: So how can they be able to decieve the guards, while Ichigo who basically IS a Shinigami wasn't? :frustrated: Plothole? Ichigo's energy is supposed to be massive, so it may just be that he shows up on everyone's radar, whereas Ishida (with his containment glove on) and Inoue don't resonate as anything more than normal troopers, and so aren't really noticable. You'll notice that whenever they run into a seated officer or Captain, the deception is immediately dispelled. Yoruichi might be noticed, but she's a stealth expert already, and Ganjyu is never very far from Ichigo. That just leaves poor Chad, whom you may have noticed has to deal with it in his own way. The hidden trainig room Yoruichi rescues Ichigo from Byakuya and both went to the underground training room... shortly after, Renji arrives there for his own training... Now I wonder: Wasn't this room supposed to be hidden and shielded? How could Renji find them there and more importantly: If Renji was able to find them, why was nobody else? After all they are still the intruders and have to be arrested. I wondered about that too. My guess? The shinigami know about the room. When Yoruichi and Ichigo head there they've already struck a deal, of sorts, with Byakuya, and so pursuit might have been relaxed enough that they could be alone for a while. It might also be that Renji just found out about it somehow. Or it might be a massive plothole. Death in Soul Society Are Shinigami really able to die? We see them slice each other untill they loose tons of blood, they get stabbed and the clown guy even gets blown away his whole torso... but all of them recover in less then a day. Why do they even try to kill each other, if it obviously doesn't have any effect at all? And if there is a way to kill, why don't they go for a sure one? Captain Unohana's Ban Kai seems to be able to heal anyone who isn't completely dead to full recovery, given enough time. When in doubt, you can always trust some mysterious power to save the characters. Yeah, it's a dues ex machina, but really, would you rather have every get killed? Aizen's victory? Do you think Aizen really got the real device, he was looking for? Actually he was very well informed, knowing that Ichigo's group will come to the rescue and that Urahara helped them and all, but on the other hand... Urahara isn't stupid also... he was in contact with Rukia for nearly the whole time, she was on earth (2-3 month), so couldn't he just have replaced the original one by a faked one? Okay, it wouldn't really make an interessting story if after this long arc the bad guys suddenly just got a dummy, but it's frustrating enough, that all the bad guys got away without even suffering a loss. Speaking of Aizen's group: I wonder why the clown-guy wasn't a part of it... he seems to be interessted the most in wierd experiments. I could turn out to be wrong, but the fact that Rukia still hadn't recovered any of her powers was proof that the device was real and working as intended. As for Mayuri (the clown-guy), he doesn't generally seem to care enough to get involved in all the politics. He'd probably be interested in seeing how Aizen's experiment turns out, but I don't think he'd be willing to go through all the subtle scheming involved to pull it off himself. Unlimited Power?? Aizen said, that by becoming a hollow, the Shinigami is able to surpass his limits... Now does it mean, that those beeings have no limits at all ("hello, boundless ridiculous powerups"), or is it just, that those beeings have much higher limits? BTW, hollows and Shinigami both are originally human souls, so shouldn't the combination become human also? As far as anyone can tell, the result of the hollow/shinigami combination experiment is Ichigo, who is, as you say, a human. For more than that, you'll have to keep reading the manga, since they haven't really talked about it yet. Return to the human world Wasn't it suspicious, that there were flying some kids and a strange old guy around in mid-air on some sort of carpet? And why did Urahara know the exact place and time to wait for their return? And about Kon: Why (and since when) was he in Ichigo's body? Ichigo left his body under Urahara's store, and everyone thought, that he was on some sort of journey. Most of Urahara's toys seem to be undetectable by normal eyes. Maybe people who can see spirits could spot them, but they've probably seen weirder. Plus, you'd be amazed how few people ever look up. As for Urahara knowing, it looked like they were on the lookout for the general time, but the place was unknown, hence the bizarre cannonball-style entrance. ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-07-16, 13:36 I could turn out to be wrong, but the fact that Rukia still hadn't recovered any of her powers was proof that the device was real and working as intended. That was the gigai doing that, not the device. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-07-16, 15:08 Hell Presumably the only souls that go there are the ones that the person/persons (whoever that might be) in charge do not want returning.Hm, interessting, so you ssume that there is "someone in charge"? However it doesn't really answer my question: The souls going to hell are lost, aren't they? So shouldn't it disturb the balance? Soul Society's aging This debate is ongoing, but I for one don't think babies are born into SS. You call them "fake families", but if you live with and support each other for a couple hundred years, I imagine a pretty good bond can grow. For that matter, very few families in this world were born that way. Husband and wife, at least, have to meet each other somewhere and develop that connection, and despite the TV dramas, most adopted children receive as much love as if they had been born to that family.Actually, since there are definately characters which are aging, I see no reason to disbelieve that there can be born babies. Only those, who are born can age, while the ones, which were sent into this world remain like they are... does at least make a little sense this way. Hiding a Shinigami Ichigo's energy is supposed to be massive, so it may just be that he shows up on everyone's radar, whereas Ishida (with his containment glove on) and Inoue don't resonate as anything more than normal troopers, and so aren't really noticable.His energy may be huge, but the point is, that it's still a Shinigami energy, while Ishida and Inoue's aren't. And since they are able to decieve the guards by just putting on the proper clothes, I think Ichigo should be able to do the same. The hidden trainig room I wondered about that too. My guess? The shinigami know about the room. When Yoruichi and Ichigo head there they've already struck a deal, of sorts, with Byakuya, and so pursuit might have been relaxed enough that they could be alone for a while. It might also be that Renji just found out about it somehow. Or it might be a massive plothole.Hm, the most likely choice would be, that Renji accidentialy found the room in the past and just went there, because he couldn't finde them anywhere else. It's hard to believe, that the rule-abiding Byakuya of all people should accept them training, if he knew where to find them. However, it seems to be hidden pretty bad if it can be found, regardless of how Renji did it. Death in Soul Society Captain Unohana's Ban Kai seems to be able to heal anyone who isn't completely dead to full recovery, given enough time. When in doubt, you can always trust some mysterious power to save the characters. Yeah, it's a dues ex machina, but really, would you rather have every get killed?Actually, I really think a few dead would have made the story more believable and more interessting. And especially the actions of the characters are kind of strange... how can they talk about "killing" their enemy, if they don't really do it (knowingly aren't able to do it). If I want my opponent dead, and I know that he can brought back from certain wounds, then I would avoid this kind of injury and instead aim for a target which assures me a certain kill. For example when Aizen "killed" Hinamori and Hitsugaya, while knewing that Unohana is going to appear shortly after, he should have been more accurate in his killing. Aizen's victory? I could turn out to be wrong, but the fact that Rukia still hadn't recovered any of her powers was proof that the device was real and working as intended.Like Zoe already wrote: The thing which prevented Rukia from getting back her powers was the fake body, not the device planted inside her. And after the return to soul society she was put into this energy absorbing tower... It looks like captains are really hard to kill, if they are first put into this tower for 30 days and then striked with the power of 1000 swords. ;) However, the device was supposed to convert between Shinigami and Hollows and the questioon remains: Was Urahara careless and let the real device inside of Rukia, despite having the chance to replace it by a fake one, or did he hide the original somewhere else? As for Mayuri (the clown-guy), he doesn't generally seem to care enough to get involved in all the politics. He'd probably be interested in seeing how Aizen's experiment turns out, but I don't think he'd be willing to go through all the subtle scheming involved to pull it off himself.He shouldn't really have done much anyways, since Aizen was doing all the work... it's just that I think it would really fit his character to be part of the plot, and so far there isn't really anything militating against it. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-07-18, 01:35 Hiding a Shinigami His energy may be huge, but the point is, that it's still a Shinigami energy, while Ishida and Inoue's aren't. And since they are able to decieve the guards by just putting on the proper clothes, I think Ichigo should be able to do the same. It is important how strong Ichigo's energy is. Ishida and Inoue have a normal level of energy. If you passed them in Shinigami clothing you'd think something like, "hmmm.... strangers. Haven't seen them around before? I guess they're just not that noticable." On the other hand if someone saw Ichigo, they'd think, "Holy Shit! Who the hell is that monster!! Even if I hadn't seen him before, surely I'd have at least HEARD of someone like him!" His level of power is unheard of for anyone who isn't a captain. If he isn't one of the 13 captains or at the very least, one of the 13 Vice-Captains, then you'd know he was a stranger. ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-07-18, 15:44 Originally Posted by The Small One Hiding a Shinigami His energy may be huge, but the point is, that it's still a Shinigami energy, while Ishida and Inoue's aren't. And since they are able to decieve the guards by just putting on the proper clothes, I think Ichigo should be able to do the same. We know that Ichimaru saw Ichigo at the beging saw Ichigo so everybody should know that red haired kid with giantic sword is a drifter but also they had information about Ichigo fighting menos grande (and Ichimaru might know it from both sources (Shinigami and Hollows :D ))... of couse Ikkaku might don't know exacly how Ichigo looked like because he was slacking off (or something like that) ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-07-18, 16:40 Originally Posted by The Small One Unlimited Power?? Aizen said, that by becoming a hollow, the Shinigami is able to surpass his limits... Now does it mean, that those beeings have no limits at all ("hello, boundless ridiculous powerups"), or is it just, that those beeings have much higher limits? BTW, hollows and Shinigami both are originally human souls, so shouldn't the combination become human also? by being a mix of hollow and shinigami Ichigo has much spiritual power but most important is that when he is fighting as a hollow he doesn't fell pain and can't show his 100% even at the edge of dead which is something that Ken-chan might not be able to do... but as we know only shinigami that was mixed with hollow is that strong not in reverse :D sorry for duble post ________________________________________ Giovone 2005-07-18, 19:45 I have a question. In Episode 39 were Ichigo was fighting Kenpachi and he broke Ichigo's sword. Zangetsu brought Ichigo to fight himself. But after, the replica of Ichigo said something strange. He told Zangetsu to raise Ichigo well, because that power is gonna be mine's someday. What did he mean by that? ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-07-18, 22:34 What did he mean by that? It's whatever you want to make of it (IOW, we haven't been told yet). ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-07-19, 22:11 The hidden trainig room Yoruichi rescues Ichigo from Byakuya and both went to the underground training room... shortly after, Renji arrives there for his own training... Now I wonder: Wasn't this room supposed to be hidden and shielded? How could Renji find them there and more importantly: If Renji was able to find them, why was nobody else? After all they are still the intruders and have to be arrested. After re-reading the manga, it looks like Renji just traced Ichigo's energy to the room and broke into it (big explosion at the entrance). There are two things to consider here: 1) Not all of the captains, much less normal shinigami, have met Ichigo yet and therefore wouldn't know to trace his specific energy (remember, only high-level shinigami can do that anyway). 2) Even though Byakuya is law-abiding, he seemed to have accepted Yoruichi's conditions. He certainly could have tried to follow her, and probably could have caught them. But he didn't, and he lost interest in everybody else on the bridge. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-07-20, 06:15 After re-reading the manga, it looks like Renji just traced Ichigo's energy to the room and broke into it (big explosion at the entrance). There are two things to consider here: 1) Not all of the captains, much less normal shinigami, have met Ichigo yet and therefore wouldn't know to trace his specific energy (remember, only high-level shinigami can do that anyway).But wasn't the room supposed to be shielded? It has to be shielded... doing the Ban-Kai training is probably like a beacon... the energy must be felt miles away, if it's done in an unshielded place. 2) Even though Byakuya is law-abiding, he seemed to have accepted Yoruichi's conditions. He certainly could have tried to follow her, and probably could have caught them. But he didn't, and he lost interest in everybody else on the bridge.I still think it's out of character for him... he is such a pighead concerning the rules, that he is even willing to kill his "sister" if necessary... at least until the end of the SoulSociety-Arc. Come to think of it: Renji didn't really have a reson to search for Ichigo in his situation. On the other hand, he just escaped from confinement and was in need of a place to hide and do his training. I guess the most likely scenario is, that he knew the room from the past and didn't know that Ichigo would be there. ________________________________________ DavidM 2005-07-20, 18:19 What are those "clips" in his hair, and more importantly--where can I get some? ________________________________________ Glitch87 2005-07-20, 18:58 they are called Kenseikon i belive (spelling it wrong prolly) and they signify nobility. where you can get some? soul society i guess... but first you have to die... ________________________________________ eddiec 2005-07-21, 01:02 I have two questions. I have seen all anime eps so far and have the manga but have not read any of it. 1) Are any of the captains going to fight each other, and are they cool fights? 2) Are we going to see the 10th captain, Hitsugaya fight? Yes or no? ________________________________________ Glitch87 2005-07-21, 01:32 yes and yes. but i'd rather not tell you about it. just see for yourself. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-07-21, 03:10 I have two questions. I have seen all anime eps so far and have the manga but have not read any of it. 1) Are any of the captains going to fight each other, and are they cool fights? 2) Are we going to see the 10th captain, Hitsugaya fight? Yes or no? yes between kenpachi vs tousen, komaura and genryuusai vs ukitake, shunsui and yes against Gin ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-07-21, 04:50 yes between kenpachi vs tousen, komaura and genryuusai vs ukitake, shunsui and yes against Gin Did Genryuusai really fight? Didn't they just stand there until this emergency message came? ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-07-21, 11:09 Did Genryuusai really fight? Didn't they just stand there until this emergency message came? If they wouldn't fight then Sunsui would still wear his hat an Utsike wouldn't be hurt in his head (and bleeding)... but they didn't reach Ban Kai level fight yet :eyespin: ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-07-22, 05:11 Did Genryuusai really fight? Didn't they just stand there until this emergency message came? He did, they just never showed it, it was implied that they fought (he got his sword ready and all) ________________________________________ _Riku_ 2005-07-31, 12:03 This one is to you manga readers..so anime people don't read this topic unless you wan't to be spoiled Just saw a pic of Renji fightingh Byakuya and saying "Ban Kai" So arround wich ep would you think that this will happend.. I really need to know 'cause otherwise I might not be able to wait ________________________________________ cybuster 2005-07-31, 13:09 I think around episode 50+ ________________________________________ _Riku_ 2005-07-31, 14:49 I think around episode 50+ I believe that it was the answer for my question :) thanks.. well that ain't too far away so I'll be able to wait =) ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-08-03, 22:09 I was reading early chapters of Bleach {english volumes} and Rukia said the "soul-candy" thing was in high demand..why in the world would it be in high demand? Aren't most dead souls already..er..souls -.- And i doubt there are many people in Ichigo's position. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-08-04, 04:17 Interesting question, never thought about it... Maybe it has another possible use. Or there are more people like Ichigo out there, than SS knows. ________________________________________ PastPrime 2005-08-04, 12:49 Interesting question, never thought about it... Maybe it has another possible use. Or there are more people like Ichigo out there, than SS knows. Maybe that is how Shingami living in the Human world would exit their Gigas. There may be a lot of them. And, with the exception on Kon, the candy is probably a one shot deal. ________________________________________ cybuster 2005-08-04, 13:12 Don't forget Rukia wanted the rabbit looking soul candy. XD ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-08-04, 13:17 Candies may work not only for Shinigamies... and the variety of choses was huge :D like seal one :heh: ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-08-04, 15:57 Don't the Shinigami's usually have something like Rukia's glove, or Urahara's stick to remove the soul? Why should they need candy? Besides, I don't think that this much Shinigamis are living in the human world... they only have to use a gigai, when they lost their powers, which shouldn't really happen this often. ________________________________________ wnkryo 2005-08-04, 18:55 Just my theory.... but is ichigo... something like half hallow... half death god? Based on the anime, and how that mask saved him at crucial times.... that theory wouldn't be so farfetched, eh? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-08-05, 00:20 Just my theory.... but is ichigo... something like half hallow... half death god? Based on the anime, and how that mask saved him at crucial times.... that theory wouldn't be so farfetched, eh? Do you really want your theory to be answered? As soon as you click on the spoiler tag below, a bit of magic and mystery will be removed from the Bleach world. You'll never again be able to wonder, guess and make theories. Instead you'll be chained by knowlege of what is actually going on. Yes. Of course everyone suspects it, not just you. The real question is what does it mean to be a hollow/shinigami combo? Now you can start to make theories about the meaning of it. Just don't ask about it here since the rest of the answer is not yet known. ________________________________________ Gunnery OS 2005-08-06, 04:15 Yes, he became like that during the "hole" incident. ________________________________________ LIQUIDCELL 2005-08-06, 15:34 why did Byakuya showed so much hatred toward Kaien's clan? when Ganju said he was a Shiba, Byakuya just lost it. could it be that losing to a mongrel of a hollow (kaien) was dispicable? lolz ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-08-06, 16:29 why did Byakuya showed so much hatred toward Kaien's clan? when Ganju said he was a Shiba, Byakuya just lost it. I don't think it was hatred... to me it looked like respect. When Ganju said, that he is a Shiba, Byakuya basically accepted, that he is a strong opponent and therefore should go all-out, out of respect. ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-08-06, 17:01 why did Byakuya showed so much hatred toward Kaien's clan? when Ganju said he was a Shiba, Byakuya just lost it. could it be that losing to a mongrel of a hollow (kaien) was dispicable? lolz Most people don't know who Kaien is..or atlesat as far as i'm concerned it has not been released in the anime. -.- ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-08-06, 21:22 why did Byakuya showed so much hatred toward Kaien's clan? when Ganju said he was a Shiba, Byakuya just lost it. could it be that losing to a mongrel of a hollow (kaien) was dispicable? lolz I don't remember when they mentioned it, but apparently the Shibas are a former noble clan that have fallen out of favor. I guess they haven't fallen completely out though, because Byakuya still responds to Ganjyu as if he was a fellow noble and therefore worthy of respect. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-08-07, 05:59 I don't remember when they mentioned it, but apparently the Shibas are a former noble clan that have fallen out of favor. I guess they haven't fallen completely out though, because Byakuya still responds to Ganjyu as if he was a fellow noble and therefore worthy of respect. Really? Can you give me the chapter, or the episode where this is mentioned? It's the first time I read this... must have missed it. I thought Kaien was a guy from the slums, who made it Shinigami through hard work and brought the fame to the Shiba-name. ________________________________________ LRa 2005-08-07, 17:43 Someone talks with Rukia and tells her that Ichigo resembles someone. Which episode is it and who tells that to Rukia? One more question : in episode 32 we see Rukia and Ranji when they were young and they're growing. I thought that in soul society people don't grow? ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-08-08, 17:41 I think your talking about around Episode 17-ish, where Byakuya says something along the lines of "he does look like him." or something like that -.- They never say the name though. ~ As for the second question: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=34920 *nods* i think that might answer it. ~ Now..quick question by me, what's with Renji's head-protector thing? When he's not wearing it, he has something tied there, so what? Is he embarresed about his forehead or something? :p Also, what episode was it that Ichigo was being beat up, and chad steps in to help him? I think it was in the beginning of the anime. ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-08-08, 20:31 Now..quick question by me, what's with Renji's head-protector thing? When he's not wearing it, he has something tied there, so what? Is he embarresed about his forehead or something? :p It seems like it can function as a scanner of some sort. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-08-09, 05:00 Hes embarssed of his tattoos, hes got them on his forehead and all over his body. ________________________________________ LRa 2005-08-09, 07:04 What's the name of the song that is played during episode 33 when it's a power rangers mockery ? ________________________________________ Pailong 2005-08-10, 18:47 hey take a look at this http://www.myimportstore.com/store/i...ntNecklace.jpg where is this from in bleach? i cant seem to remember where in the manga it is from. can anyone tell me please? ________________________________________ cybuster 2005-08-10, 19:39 I think this was Renji's key or something. ________________________________________ Naruto fanboy 2005-08-10, 20:33 It's Zabimaru's guard. http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1...ch089008sk.jpg ________________________________________ Pailong 2005-08-11, 07:48 oh cool thanx for that ^^ ________________________________________ AMon10A 2005-08-12, 03:37 Could someone please give me a run down on Uhrahara's backround story. Since the show may end before it gets explained in great deal. I'm only asking cause I'm only following the show and not the manga. Oh and don't worry about spoiling me, I don't mind. Thanks ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-08-12, 03:40 Could someone please give me a run down on Uhrahara's backround story. Since the show may end before it gets explained in great deal. I'm only asking cause I'm only following the show and not the manga. Oh and don't worry about spoiling me, I don't mind. Thanks I'd rather that nobody answered this question in detail here, even in spoiler tags, because it is simply too huge a spoiler! It gives away almost everything. You'll hear the answer before the arc is over, so don't worry about the show ending first. Let's just say that he used to be a Shingami Captain, but he left because of a difficult situation. ________________________________________ jayboogie 2005-08-16, 19:07 does anyone have a link to that clip (which seems to be from the anime) that shows ichigo vs. (you know who) about to use ban kai... the music in the background of the clip/preview is from the beginning theme of the current bleach episodes and only shows what seems to be clips from the anime and no clips of actual game play. i believe it was for a preview of the psp game or the ps2 game. i tried searching but couldn't find it at all... THANKS! ________________________________________ Encoder 2005-08-16, 19:17 Could someone please give me a run down on Uhrahara's backround story. Since the show may end before it gets explained in great deal. I'm only asking cause I'm only following the show and not the manga. Oh and don't worry about spoiling me, I don't mind. Thanks Look its not really a spoiler, if you actually pay attention, you'll see by watching the ending theme for ep29. Only captains have the white coat and in the 12th division ending, you see that Urahara has a white coat with the word 十二 on his back which means 12 in chinese/japanese, you should be able to figure it out, I'd rather not directly say it since I'll get banned Jayboogie: You should really just read the topics, cause its on the front page near the top.......... http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...t=37588&page=2 ________________________________________ jayboogie 2005-08-17, 01:54 Jayboogie: You should really just read the topics, cause its on the front page near the top.......... http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...t=37588&page=2 hey thanks!!! yeah i didn't know the psp game was called selected soul so i totally grazed past it... i thought that post was something else bleach related... thanks again!!! ________________________________________ Ishida Uryuu 2005-08-17, 05:29 What will happen to Hanatarou after epi 45? (haven't watched it yet just curious) ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-08-17, 19:57 What will happen to Hanatarou after epi 45? (haven't watched it yet just curious) nothing really, he just heals Renji after he fights with someone and hes never seen again ________________________________________ Chick Magnet 2005-08-17, 20:53 nothing really, he just heals Renji after he fights with someone and hes never seen again That someone being????? Byakuya boy? Just a guess... ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-08-17, 22:43 Anyone know a good website for bleach screencaps or summaries for episodes around 30+ I watched all of those episodes in such a rush, i can barely remember when certain things happened. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-08-18, 04:23 That someone being????? Byakuya boy? Just a guess... Yeah, he challenges Byakuya and asks him to show him his bankai but of course he couldn't handle it so he got really injured ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-08-18, 04:25 http://www.bleachdj.com/?page=info/epguide ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-08-18, 07:45 Hej! By tomorow I'll have some scaned and probably put on a serwer bleach pic made by myself... Could anyone write "Guide fo total Idiots how to put Pic on Forum" and how to put link to the thread when it'll be made... and if it is possible that thread would have diffrent name then the link itself... ________________________________________ debbiechan 2005-08-18, 13:48 Can anyone tell me the name of the school Ichigo et al attend in the manga? Is the name of the school ever mentioned in the anime? TIA. ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-08-18, 14:42 It's Karakura High School, same name as the town. ________________________________________ eddiec 2005-08-18, 19:08 Kenpachi has become one of my favorite characters after he fought Ichigo. I'm curious to know if he will get to release his soul slayer in the future? Haven't read any manga, just all fansubed eps so far. Just a simple yes or no would suffice. Thanks. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-08-18, 21:20 Hej! By tomorow I'll have some scaned and probably put on a serwer bleach pic made by myself... Could anyone write "Guide fo total Idiots how to put Pic on Forum" and how to put link to the thread when it'll be made... and if it is possible that thread would have diffrent name then the link itself... upload them at www.imageshack.us then copy the link, then press the yellow square with the triangle in it (next to the globe thing) and paste it in there. no, up till current chapter (191), he still hasn't learned its name ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-08-18, 21:36 As the divisions {number wise} increase do the captains get weaker? For example, is the Captain of the 7th division stronger than the 13th division captain etc. etc. Or, does each division just specialize in a certain area? ________________________________________ Arti 2005-08-18, 21:54 Kenpachi has become one of my favorite characters after he fought Ichigo. I'm curious to know if he will get to release his soul slayer in the future? Haven't read any manga, just all fansubed eps so far. Just a simple yes or no would suffice. Thanks. Not as of right now ________________________________________ Arti 2005-08-18, 21:55 As the divisions {number wise} increase do the captains get weaker? For example, is the Captain of the 7th division stronger than the 13th division captain etc. etc. Or, does each division just specialize in a certain area? Specialization. ________________________________________ cinosweiv 2005-08-19, 03:37 As the divisions {number wise} increase do the captains get weaker? For example, is the Captain of the 7th division stronger than the 13th division captain etc. etc. Or, does each division just specialize in a certain area? The number of the division are not related to the strength of their captains. Some of the division are based on specific area, but not all. ________________________________________ Shiro-Chan 2005-08-28, 00:16 What sword in real life is closest to resembling Hitsugaya's zanpaku? ________________________________________ gangsta905_04 2005-08-28, 00:25 none.. why? because Zanpaktou's in real life DO NOT EXIST..lol..wait nvm..prolli a Katana ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-08-28, 02:40 Hitsugaya's sword design looks like a No-dachi (http://japantrip.tripod.com/nodachi/odachi_gallery.html) to me. I don't think there's really any reason other than it looks cool for a little kid to be weilding a big sword. ________________________________________ rtwesen 2005-08-29, 05:21 What are the names of Yachiru's Shikai and Bankai (assuming she does have these)? just the names please =) no manga spoilers, thanks! |
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2005-08-29, 05:34 What are the names of Yachiru's Shikai and Bankai (assuming she does have these)? just the names please =) no manga spoilers, thanks! the names are still unkown in the Manga ________________________________________ rtwesen 2005-08-29, 06:51 the names are still unkown in the Manga ahh my bad. Thanks for the info! :) ________________________________________ aznmastah 2005-08-31, 21:00 :uhoh: Um i didnt really understand this cause Rukia and Renji were born in a city in sould society. But isnt soul society where dead people go? So how come they werent brought up in the human world...wait...now im confusing myself (T_T) ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-08-31, 21:07 They were re-incarnated into Soul Society after dying in the human world. Don't strain yourself too much over it. There are a few inconsistencies in his world creation, but this isn't really one of them. They probably just died when they were young so they appeared in Soul Society as youngsters. If you want to discuss the topic any further, aspects of it are already discussed in several threads: Soul Society ? (Anime ONLY, spoilers = BAN) Death in Bleach (Beware SPOILER tags or cry) [Manga] Aging in Soul Society (some spoilers) [spoilers] Do Shinigami reproduce? ________________________________________ aznmastah 2005-08-31, 21:16 Awww I cant look at these. I cant watch spoilers sniff sniff (T_T) Thanks though :D ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-08-31, 21:25 Awww I cant look at these. I cant watch spoilers sniff sniff (T_T) Thanks though :D You should read more carefully. That's the reason this thread was created: Soul Society ? (Anime ONLY, spoilers = BAN) ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-01, 04:03 They were re-incarnated into Soul Society after dying in the human world. Actually we have no information about this... it is indeed possible, that they were born into Soul Society. ________________________________________ hi no ken Jebus 2005-09-01, 07:08 Actually we have no information about this... it is indeed possible, that they were born into Soul Society. Actually you do, at least for rukia. When byakuya is telling rukia about hisana. He mentions that after they died in the real world rukia was abandoned by hisana as an infant . ________________________________________ Myname 2005-09-01, 18:41 Rukia died as a baby ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-01, 22:16 Rukia died as a baby If you don't mind me asking, when is this all explained? Soon I hope? {anime watcher} ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-09-01, 22:46 If you don't mind me asking, when is this all explained? Soon I hope? {anime watcher} Not until the end of the arc. ________________________________________ epileather 2005-09-01, 22:58 Is there romance involved in this Series? Or it's like Full metal Alchemist, no romance at all. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-02, 03:41 Is there romance involved in this Series? Or it's like Full metal Alchemist, no romance at all. There are hints of who like whom, but mostly there really isn't any romance. ________________________________________ Myname 2005-09-02, 05:18 Ishida likes Orihime, Orihime likes Ichigo, Ichigo and Rukia are friends/possibly lovers, Renji likes Rukia, Rukia likes Kaien, Kira has a crush on Hinamori, Hinamori is obsessed with Aizen, Hitsuguya likes Hinamori, Matsumoto likes Gin, Gin saved her from stavation when they were kids, Urahara and Yoruichi most likely are a pair, I believe Chad has something for Karin, I also believe Hisagi has a crush on Hinamori, Shunsui and Nanao are like a married couple type of relationship, Nemu and Mayuri are.... (dont know about this one), Ganju hates Rukia, Hanatarou probably likes Rukia and thats about it. ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-03, 00:39 I've recently read up on all of the latest manga chapters, and am at the part where Rukia stays in the soul society. I feel stupid for asking, but that's not the end of her right :p ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-03, 05:45 Most likely, she was useless anyways, if not her holding the thing in her body than someone else, she was nothing special. PS. She is beyond weak, her power is pathetic ________________________________________ hi no ken Jebus 2005-09-03, 13:55 I've recently read up on all of the latest manga chapters, and am at the part where Rukia stays in the soul society. I feel stupid for asking, but that's not the end of her right :p As of now the focus seems to be on Ichigo and a possible 3 side war in the physical realm. Of course SS will show up eventually so I wouldn't be surprised if she shows up better than before. ________________________________________ rtwesen 2005-09-04, 01:45 has Yachiru fought in the manga yet? Just a yes/no answer please, and approx. how long the fight was, thanks! ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-04, 02:09 no........ ________________________________________ rtwesen 2005-09-04, 02:28 thanks alot! ________________________________________ epileather 2005-09-04, 03:37 Thanks No and Myname ________________________________________ F~Aura 2005-09-08, 00:13 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? :confused: any answers or guesses? ________________________________________ jbruns 2005-09-08, 00:20 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? :confused: any answers or guesses? No its not ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-08, 00:31 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? :confused: any answers or guesses? In an early episode, Rukia said that Soul Society was better than Earth in 9 ways out of 10, so the deceased souls were going to a better place. It isn't Heaven. It's just an after life. I'm pretty sure that there is another thread on the subject of the nature of Soul Society. (Finding the thread will be left as an exercise for the student.) If you want to know more about Soul Society, ask there. 1. It is only supposed to be better than Earth, not perfect. (Though having seem SS, I have serious questions about how it is better.) 2. As for What happens to dead souls, they are re-incarnated as mortals on Earth. That subject ALSO has its own thread. 3. Spiritual bodies bleed spirtual blood. They can die also, so this shouldn't be too surprising. ________________________________________ emessen 2005-09-08, 00:35 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? :confused: any answers or guesses? I think it best that the Idea of heaven and hell, fundamentally Western teachings not be brought up when discussing the Bleach anime that has it's own mythos loosely based on eastern philosiphies. But I think that some questions deserve some discussion. 1.) I dont recall Soul Society being claimed to be like heaven... as i recall during Chad's introductory arc Rukia explains Soul Society to just be better than earth in the fact that you dont get hungry. Only souls that have the ability to use spiritual powers get hungry but all souls get thirsty. I found that amusing that Water the source of life is the source of nourishment even for the dead. 2.) Again I think its best not to think that Soul Society = heaven... Perhaps its better to think that it's more like The Underworld of Greek Mythology where all souls go to Hades and either get sent to tarturus or the Elysian Fields... The Elysian Fields shouldnt be interpretted as being Heaven either since it is part of Hades' Underworld Realm. Just like how Soul Society has it's well off districts and not so well off districts The Heavens in greek mythology are after all where the God's live. Anyway what happens when spiritual beings are "killed" when in soul society? the best explanation to that question is probably that they get sent back to Earth, or are reborn. Soul Society relegates souls... and there has to be a balance between it and Earth. i'm referring to that hourglass model during the Quincy Arc. 3.) This one is a very interesting question. and it begs discussion in my opinion. I will pose this one question since we are talking about how can souls bleed. In some Christian teachings Hell is a place of eternal torture or something to that extent where you or left to your own misery... So i guess that begs the question... how does a soul suffer? how does a spiritual being feel pain. Makes you wonder hmmm? My hypothesis is this that souls are aware... that they have minds and by mind i dont mean brain but the ability to think. Therefore since they are only bound by what they know prior to death, that after death they are prone to relying on that knowledge. That when in death the spiritual beings recreate what they know from Earth in order to keep exsisting as spirits sounds odd and a lil buggy i'm sure... but i guess you could kind of think of it like the Matrix? that souls need to grasp onto something they know that is tangible to them even if they are not corporeal ________________________________________ purplefeiying 2005-09-08, 02:18 wuu...wuu...:sad: I scroll down the forum and it's all 'spoilers'... wuu wuu... Basically, questions can't be answered without spiling the suspense rite? Guess I just hv to be patient & wait for de anime eps.. ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-08, 03:38 I remember distinctly, Ichigo asked Rukia what soul society was, and she said it was like what humans think of as heaven. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-08, 03:41 1. It is only supposed to be better than Earth, not perfect. (Though having seem SS, I have serious questions about how it is better.) No hollows... while the spirits, which stay on earth are constantly beeing threated by hollows, the souls in SS don't have to worry about this. ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-08, 03:46 No hollows... while the spirits, which stay on earth are constantly beeing threated by hollows, the souls in SS don't have to worry about this. Or maybe they say it is "better" than earth because the ones saying that are Death Gods and they live inside the Court of Pure Souls and don't have to deal with the crap outside their precious walls. Only Death Gods like Rukia or Renji might understand that its not really better than earth at all, its just a place where they don't have to deal with hollows, but instead, they have to deal with Death Gods (whom most of the commoners seem to loathe). ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-08, 06:12 Just learned to watch bleach the last few days...and to be honest i became awesome later on. I watched from 1-46..Anime but have some questions here. Which Captain is the strongest? Does it go by order? 1-13th? Hitsugaya is definetly the coolest and threatened Ichimaru...but...is he really stronger? I mean are the other Captains aware of eachothers power? The previous strong Captain that fought Ichigo...he enjoyed fighting strong persons...and didnt for that long..why didnt he fought some Captains? Like sparring.. ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-09-08, 09:39 Just learned to watch bleach the last few days...and to be honest i became awesome later on. I watched from 1-46..Anime but have some questions here. Which Captain is the strongest? Does it go by order? 1-13th? Hitsugaya is definetly the coolest and threatened Ichimaru...but...is he really stronger? I mean are the other Captains aware of eachothers power? The previous strong Captain that fought Ichigo...he enjoyed fighting strong persons...and didnt for that long..why didnt he fought some Captains? Like sparring.. there was a special thread for capitans streangh, but... numbers have diffrent meaning... capitans are all strong but they don't fight with each other so they don't know much about their Bankai's abbilites (its nomraly banned) but it's like anyone else's Shikai form everybody knows... the coolest thing about bleach is that even if one shinigami gets owned with one shot doesn't mean he's much weaker (Abarai got owned by Ichigo and was clouse to Bankai - he got one fast critical hit :D ) it's cool that you can't say that one enemy is hella stronger then the other, but diffrent (not like DBZ Freeza<<Cell<<Buu :heh: ) and that's the way i think about it :eyespin: :heh: :rolleyes: ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-08, 10:34 there was a special thread for capitans streangh, but... numbers have diffrent meaning... capitans are all strong but they don't fight with each other so they don't know much about their Bankai's abbilites (its nomraly banned) but it's like anyone else's Shikai form everybody knows... the coolest thing about bleach is that even if one shinigami gets owned with one shot doesn't mean he's much weaker (Abarai got owned by Ichigo and was clouse to Bankai - he got one fast critical hit :D ) it's cool that you can't say that one enemy is hella stronger then the other, but diffrent (not like DBZ Freeza<<Cell<<Buu :heh: ) and that's the way i think about it :eyespin: :heh: :rolleyes: I see...well it WAS funny that Ichigo actually loses all the time....and pretty bad. It usually someone else that is the hero. Also his blade got snapped yet again. ------------Can Any Blade just be repaired just like that?? (Ichigo's blade suddenly was whole again) ________________________________________ monir 2005-09-08, 13:00 It has been said by many that when it comes to the surrounding World in Soul Society, the Mangaka had a brain-fart. The series has so many holes to poke on that it is ridiuculous and not to mention, frustrating. Its just another shounen series where the use of grey matter can only reduce the fun of things. So shutting the constantly nagging brain might enhance the enjoyment for this show, especially when the subject is Soul Society. ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-09-08, 15:35 ------------Can Any Blade just be repaired just like that?? (Ichigo's blade suddenly was whole again) The swords are reflections of their souls. It's already been established that released swords return to their normal states when the user loses consciousness. I would imagine broken swords get fixed after rest or some "soul searching." ________________________________________ Guido 2005-09-08, 15:54 In the world of Bleach, what or who are the Vizards? ________________________________________ emessen 2005-09-08, 16:54 In the world of Bleach, what or who are the Vizards? Vizards are Shinigami that have dipped their hand into the realm of the hollow as opposed to Arankaru which are hollows that have been bestowed shinigami powers Edit by Moderator: Edited in spoiler tags. I'm going to have to ban you for saying this much without using spoiler tags. ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-10, 19:21 Just got another few questions: 1# They are about to kill Rukia....erm shouldnt she then just respawn in the same world? Soul Society? That's where dead people go right? 2# Whitey-chan/Hitsugaya became extremely fast a captain...as we saw in the flashbacks he wasnt "that" much younger he looked 10 and now as captain 15-16. Is he such an enormous genius that he became death god & captain so soon? ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-09-10, 19:38 #1 - No, welcome to a more eastern view of the afterlife. People that die in Soul Society are reincarnated in the living world. On the other hand, supposedly the execution method destroys a soul completely, so she may not come back at all. #2 - Yeah, Hitsugaya is just that cool. :D ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-11, 04:28 .... I saw vol 8 in English at Waldenbooks a while back. I think you're a little late to preorder #1. :o thanks! I totally fail at teh intarweb. I do have a question about the OAV that was released. I started to watch it tonight thinking it would be something different from the anime but it seemed almost exactly the same as the one episode about Ichigo's mother. Anyway, was this put out before the anime was started? (I ask cause its called Jump fiesta, so I thought about the magazine.) Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me.. ________________________________________ AMon10A 2005-09-11, 05:34 :o thanks! I totally fail at teh intarweb. I do have a question about the OAV that was released. I started to watch it tonight thinking it would be something different from the anime but it seemed almost exactly the same as the one episode about Ichigo's mother. Anyway, was this put out before the anime was started? (I ask cause its called Jump fiesta, so I thought about the magazine.) Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me.. Yeah the OVA thing was put out about a year before the show started to my knowledge. About the second question, in a normal situaition she probally would get her powers back after Byakuya's attack around ep.17 or so. What's really happening however, is a little complex and something that best left to the show to explain since its part of the overall plot for this season. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-11, 06:14 Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me.. What is the problem? She started to regain the powers, when Byakuya "killed" Ichigo... After that point Ichigo went back to beeing a normal human. Regaining the powers don't work in an instant, they return gradually. ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-11, 15:58 I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance" Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself. Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh? :) ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-11, 17:27 I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance" Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself. Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh? :)I wound't know ;) I'm anime only also. This is just a cool piece of fanart I found on a livejournal dedicated to Bleach LJ icons :) However... it is suspected that he is part hollow, just not proven yet, from what I've heard others say ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-11, 22:41 I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance" Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself. Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh? :) if you really really want to knowYes ________________________________________ Cujo 2005-09-11, 23:37 Im not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what chair in her division is rukia? ________________________________________ Chick Magnet 2005-09-11, 23:40 Im not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what chair in her division is rukia? She was third chair. Those two shinigami who argue all the time trying to fill Kaien's place were first and second. ________________________________________ KanaKaishou 2005-09-11, 23:50 She was third chair. Those two shinigami who argue all the time trying to fill Kaien's place were first and second. I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer). One more thing: The anime *has* mentioned why Rukia hasn't gotten back her powers--she says right before Ichigo fights Byakuya something to the nature of "Oh snap, the reason I have no powers is because I've been in a prison of Lethality Stone, which keeps my power down"... or something like that. ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-12, 00:37 I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer). One more thing: The anime *has* mentioned why Rukia hasn't gotten back her powers--she says right before Ichigo fights Byakuya something to the nature of "Oh snap, the reason I have no powers is because I've been in a prison of Lethality Stone, which keeps my power down"... or something like that. ah right, the Lethality stone.. but I still didn't understand then why during the Ichigo/Renji fight he screamed Ichigo had to die for her to get her powers back. I mean, he knew Byakuya severed those links.. ________________________________________ AthrunJustice 2005-09-12, 01:01 Hey i also wanna ask, is it the higher the captain is in the number of divisions, does that mean his strong?, looks like ichimaru doesnt put any foe or enemy in his eyes imo, and i thought the other dude with the dreads n bells was the strongest captain. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-12, 01:11 Hey i also wanna ask, is it the higher the captain is in the number of divisions, does that mean his strong?, looks like ichimaru doesnt put any foe or enemy in his eyes imo, and i thought the other dude with the dreads n bells was the strongest captain. Division number has nothing at all to do with strength. There is a whole thread devoted to the special purposes of some divisions if you want to discuss farther. ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-12, 01:37 I wound't know ;) I'm anime only also. This is just a cool piece of fanart I found on a livejournal dedicated to Bleach LJ icons :) However... it is suspected that he is part hollow, just not proven yet, from what I've heard others say Holy :eek: :innocent: how tempting....i want to click but then again.... Before i click i just want to know....how much further is the manga compared to the anime. Naruto's case is like 30-40 episodes..but if Bleach's case is much more then that...then i'll leave it :( ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-12, 04:26 Rukia was a no seat. Bleach right now is at c132/3 or so, manga's at 194, 195 tomorrow. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-12, 05:22 ah right, the Lethality stone.. but I still didn't understand then why during the Ichigo/Renji fight he screamed Ichigo had to die for her to get her powers back. I mean, he knew Byakuya severed those links.. Well, Renji knew, that Byakuya tried to sever the links... however a success would result in a dead, or at least a human-only Ichigo. Now there is Ichigo standing before him as a Shinigami, so what conclusion is there for Renji to draw? He doesn't know, that Ichigo developped his own Shinigami powers, so from his point of view Byakuya failed and Ichigo is still using Rukia's powers. Rukia was a no seat. That's also what I think... to those who say Rukia was a seated Shinigami: reference please. Which chapter? ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-12, 14:51 Yorichi (the cat) said that it always was a funny experience to see the look of others when she reveals her true form. Uhm...so does she just pops her ......you know what.... in front of so many dudes? Even if she was a highly respected former Commander...or did she ment: Guys like Ichigo...that she trained? But somehow died. ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-09-12, 18:13 Yorichi (the cat) said that it always was a funny experience to see the look of others when she reveals her true form. Uhm...so does she just pops her ......you know what.... in front of so many dudes? Even if she was a highly respected former Commander...or did she ment: Guys like Ichigo...that she trained? But somehow died. I dont think she was really referring to her being naked and getting a reaction, but more of her being a woman than a male cat. But maybe she doesn't realize that people are affected by her you know whats. I doubt she knew a lot of other guys other than Urahara and i can see that Urahara and Ichigo would have the same reaction. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-12, 18:37 I think that she KNOWS what the effect is. She's just a tease. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-13, 04:02 IMHO she is talking about Ichigo's father... Come to think of it, after they (Urahara&Yoruichi) left Soul Society, they shouldn't have met a lot of people, she could have shown her true form to... ________________________________________ Guido 2005-09-13, 13:28 Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad? ________________________________________ fluffyduckx 2005-09-13, 15:51 hmmm.. dunno if this question has been posted before.. Do the souls in soul society / rugonkai (sp) age? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-13, 18:09 hmmm.. dunno if this question has been posted before.. Do the souls in soul society / rugonkai (sp) age? We have seen younger versions of many of the characters in various flashbacks (Rukia, Renji, Yachiro, etc.) so it is safe to say that they do. For more details, we have a thread to discuss it: [Manga] Aging in Soul Society (some spoilers). The spoilers are minor, but be aware of them before you click the link. ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-09-14, 00:36 I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer). I'll put this behind spoilers to be safe... Some of this should have been mentioned in the latest episode, but I didn't remember catching it. First seat = Ukitake Second seat = unfilled (previously Shiba Kaien) Third seat = shared by the two stooges (previously Miyako) As Morisato said, we've never been given any indication that Rukia actually became a seated member. When she first joined, she told Byakuya that she was unseated. Later on she says that she has been rising in the ranks, but I still wouldn't say that's good enough to assume she was a seated officer. Besides, does it really make sense to send a seated officer after petty hollows? ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-14, 03:32 Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad? There is no reason really, I call it a plothole. No actually now that I think about it, those two 3rd seats are fighting for it so they see who can suck up more. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-14, 05:25 Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad? BTW, did they mention how much time passed since Kaien died? If not: Maybe it was just a few weeks ago, so they didn't even have the time to search for a replacement. ________________________________________ Karthak 2005-09-14, 08:58 BTW, did they mention how much time passed since Kaien died? If not: Maybe it was just a few weeks ago, so they didn't even have the time to search for a replacement.Kaien died when Ganju was just a boy, and he`s obviously adult now. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-14, 11:01 Kaien died when Ganju was just a boy, and he`s obviously adult now. This doesn't really help much, since we don't have enough information about the aging in SS. Rukia and the others of her squad were around the same age, they are now... it looks like everyone ages with a different speed. I really hope the author is going to explain this issue someday. ________________________________________ arcanix 2005-09-15, 15:23 I've been searching web for pictures of division signs (you know, those that are on teichou's robe and fuku-teichou's arm patch). Haven't found any though. What does those kanji's mean? Is it just the division number? edit: Well I figured that one myself, so here's a picture if you are interested: http://www.camas.wednet.edu/chs/club...ji_numbers.gif Those were plain numbers just like I thought. ________________________________________ Rex blade 2005-09-15, 15:53 lol only 1 view and u already figured it out? :D pretty fast i gotta say ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-19, 16:16 Mmmm--I'm almost sure I missed something in the manga or something, but i'll ask anyway.. What ever happened to Grand Fisher? -.- He just flew off (waaaayyy back in like..volume 3) and that was that? ________________________________________ Tiamat 2005-09-19, 16:38 Mmmm--I'm almost sure I missed something in the manga or something, but i'll ask anyway.. What ever happened to Grand Fisher? -.- He just flew off (waaaayyy back in like..volume 3) and that was that? The Movie that will be coming out will be where Grand Fisher shows up again. So Ichigo will have a grand battle with Grand Fisher to resolve everything. And I believe that it is set up to be after the SS arc. ________________________________________ Jumper 2005-09-20, 02:45 What Movie are you talking about? o_O There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc ________________________________________ Tiamat 2005-09-20, 18:47 What Movie are you talking about? o_O There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc Really? :confused: I heard that it was going to be made into a movie but if it's an OVA that works too. If I'm wrong, sorry, that's just what I heard. And... Shouldn't it be Ichigo who would kill Grand Fisher? Who would it be then, because I would think Ichigo would take care of him because of his personal connection and grudge against Grand Fisher? ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-20, 19:28 What Movie are you talking about? o_O There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-21, 01:11 You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something? There is already an OVA about Ichigo's encounter with the Ground Fisher called Jump Festa 2004: Memories in the Rain + 13 Squad Omake. It is listed on AnimeSuki, so feel free to download and watch it. As for the second appearance of Ground Fisher, it has happened in the manga, but there is no OVA about that encounter. There are some rumors that there will be such an OVA, but they are unsubstantiated and I personally doubt it. ________________________________________ PastPrime 2005-09-21, 01:11 You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something? The OVA was basically the Manga version of Ichigo's encounter with the GF. It differed somewhat from the Anime version but the end result was the same. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-21, 02:15 Theres another OVA coming out called "Sealed Sword", hes kenpachi's long lost brother named Bai Shin and like his brother, he wants to release his sword, features Hitsuguya, Renji and Ichigo. Has nothing to do with the manga though. Ichigo never killed him, he just wounded him....later Isshin kills him ________________________________________ Tiamat 2005-09-21, 13:30 Theres another OVA coming out called "Sealed Sword", hes kenpachi's long lost brother named Bai Shin and like his brother, he wants to release his sword, features Hitsuguya, Renji and Ichigo. Has nothing to do with the manga though. Ichigo never killed him, he just wounded him....later Isshin kills him Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up Morisato. |
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2005-09-25, 08:31 I guess this has already been asked, but who's this guy? - Another Ichigo soul's side? Hollow Ichigo? http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1...12022qf.th.png (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ch112022qf.png) And wtf means his words? -> Train him well... Because one day, that power will become mine ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-26, 00:24 What are you talking about? That's hollow-ichigo, he was in the anime. The episode where he fights kenpachi. Later in the manga, he tries to take over his body multiple times but Ichigo fights it off ________________________________________ Cooper 2005-09-26, 12:56 Later in the manga, he tries to take over his body multiple times but Ichigo fights it off So this means he's a bad guy? But for me he doesn't look as a bad guy. And why his body pieces was absorbed into Zangetsu and he disappeared in it? This makes me think that they're kinda friends, partners, one person or sth... ________________________________________ kagato the third 2005-09-26, 22:36 So this means he's a bad guy? But for me he doesn't look as a bad guy. And why his body pieces was absorbed into Zangetsu and he disappeared in it? This makes me think that they're kinda friends, partners, one person or sth... Long story short, its unclear if he is good or bad, but in the one ep he's been in he seems to care about Ichigo. Intersting the 2 time Hollow Ichigo trys to take control are in times when Ichigo is dire need and useing his bankai. So perhaps he isn't trying to take over as much as help out. Zangetsu is a manifestion of Ichigo's soul (or at least part of it), Hollow Ichigo is part of Ichigo's soul ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-27, 15:21 Long story short, its unclear if he is good or bad, but in the one ep he's been in he seems to care about Ichigo. Intersting the 2 time Hollow Ichigo trys to take control are in times when Ichigo is dire need and useing his bankai. So perhaps he isn't trying to take over as much as help out. Zangetsu is a manifestion of Ichigo's soul (or at least part of it), Hollow Ichigo is part of Ichigo's soul Yes..but after that moment of which he seemed to care for Ichigo's well-being he said "raise him well..for one day that power will be mine" Or something along those lines. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-27, 16:10 Yes..but after that moment of which he seemed to care for Ichigo's well-being he said "raise him well..for one day that power will be mine" Or something along those lines. Zangetsu cares about Ichigo. It was Dark Ichigo said "raise him well..for one day that power will be mine." I don't think that Zangetsu wants Dark Ichigo to win, they simply have a mutual interest in Ichigo becoming stronger. ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-27, 17:14 Zangetsu cares about Ichigo. It was Dark Ichigo said "raise him well..for one day that power will be mine." I don't think that Zangetsu wants Dark Ichigo to win, they simply have a mutual interest in Ichigo becoming stronger. I know. Sorry. I did not read Cooper's post entirely. He already quoted Dark Ichigo. I was just trying to point out my thoughts of the other Ichigo being evil. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-27, 17:36 Zangetsu cares about Ichigo. It was Dark Ichigo said "raise him well..for one day that power will be mine." I don't think that Zangetsu wants Dark Ichigo to win, they simply have a mutual interest in Ichigo becoming stronger. I don't think Zangetsu prefers one Ichigo over the other... all three are parts of the same soul, so it shouldn' t really matter. ________________________________________ smashthestate53 2005-09-27, 18:13 here's a tough one-- Why do Capitan's soul slayers' guards have unique shapes in their non-released forms? for example, the short one's got a star shaped one, and kenpachi's got that 3-d dimond thing. everyone else has the genaric rectangle-shaped guard, including ichigo. sorry for my bad spelling. ________________________________________ smashthestate53 2005-09-27, 18:20 AND ANOTHER THING........... about the ichigo thing i interupted. there's an easy answer to it. when he regained Zangetsu, he went skitzo. just like 38% of all other anime characters. ________________________________________ KanaKaishou 2005-09-27, 19:34 here's a tough one-- Why do Capitan's soul slayers' guards have unique shapes in their non-released forms? for example, the short one's got a star shaped one, and kenpachi's got that 3-d dimond thing. everyone else has the genaric rectangle-shaped guard, including ichigo. sorry for my bad spelling. I don't know about all (and, yes, I will be owned later) but in the Anime, Shunsui has the 2 swords Tousen has ring on his and Mayuri? I think it's normal, along with Gin's ________________________________________ emessen 2005-09-27, 21:03 the zanpakutou is an extension/reflection of the user's soul/spirit power meaning it's a representation of it's user's power and the sword's ability Zangetsu is hilt and guardless until bankai Senbonzakura is divided into 4 squares Shinsou has an S shape to it Suzumushi has a Ring on the guard Zabimaru has fang reliefs etched into the guard Haineko has a unique design i dunno what to really call it Tobiume is eliptical shaped with flower patterns Yachiru's guard has flower petals Benihime is a cane and when released to shikai has a unique guard just noting the different ones, since it isn't just captains but vice captains as well as to why they get unique ones... probably because it became that way through their training and maturation of their own powers... it customized itself based on their ability probably also when Isshin is introduced as a Shinigami he states that Captain level shinigami are able to manipulate the size and shape of their zanpakutou... probably includes lieutenants too i'd imagine ________________________________________ mrmetal-dot-tk 2005-09-27, 21:12 i just startred watching Bleach about a week ago and since then i have watched and downloaded them all, So i have to know when is the next one comeing out? (i have seen 50 episodes so mabey there are more i dont know about) ________________________________________ Encoder 2005-09-27, 21:43 Once every week. Every Tuesdays actually, but thats only the raw as in no subtitles, subtitles come out 2 or three days later. ________________________________________ Shuuhei 2005-09-29, 17:21 Hello. Hope this is the right thread for my question. I put it in spoiler tags, to make no mistakes: After Ichigo and Co. failed rescuing Rukia, most of them got arrested. But I still wonder, what happened to Hanatarou. There was a short scene, where the 4th Lieutenant talked to him, but I did not really get the point of what she spoke of. So can somebody tell me, where Hanatarou went to, and what he is doing? Thanks. ^^ ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-29, 17:47 Hello. Hope this is the right thread for my question. I put it in spoiler tags, to make no mistakes: After Ichigo and Co. failed rescuing Rukia, most of them got arrested. But I still wonder, what happened to Hanatarou. There was a short scene, where the 4th Lieutenant talked to him, but I did not really get the point of what she spoke of. So can somebody tell me, where Hanatarou went to, and what he is doing? Thanks. ^^ He's eating lunch. Nothing exciting is happening to Hanatarou now. You'll see him again as soon as his life becomes more interesting. ________________________________________ fluffyduckx 2005-09-30, 09:08 Manga Question Why do they wanna fuse hollows and shinigamis? is it because hollows can tap into this other realm for unlimited spiritual pressure? Is this mentioned in the manga? Sorry.. I dunno how to make a spoiler tag.. so i changed the colour of the fonts. ________________________________________ Uchiha_Rurik 2005-09-30, 12:30 Q: Have it ever been stated what kind of Illness Captain Ukitake have? |
Did Aizen know that Shunsui and Ukitake were going to save Rukia??:confused:
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I believe that Aizen planed this from the start in order to get the Hougyoku. He must have known that Shunsui and Ukitake would try to free Rukia and that Yama-yii would fight against his two students. Only that way Aizen could be sure not to have to fight against the 10 remaining Captains at the same time during Rukia's execution to get the Hougyoku from Rukia.
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Meaing of Ban in Bankai
I don't get the meaing of Ban. It is symbol of Budhist, I know this because I am a Budhist. So I don't get the meaing.
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It is also a Japanese word meaning "final." In this instance it means "final release."
If someone whose knowlege of the language exceeds my own sees the need to expand upon this explanation, please feel free. As for the kanji, while it is a swastika, it doesn't have the same meaning in this usage as it does in Budhist usage, though when it isn't being a kanji, it does have a similar meaning. This symbol actually exists in nearly every culture from Native American to Japanese, so don't be surprised to see it pop up in strange places. |
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I just started watching the show and I am up to ep 27 and there are 3 things I want to know.
1-Why is the show called Bleach? 2-Does that girl that hang out with Orihime have romantic feelings for her?(and I don't mean the obvious lesbian girl) 3-Is Ichigo's father like lusting after his younger sisters or is it just me misinterperting his over the top parental love? |
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2-Do you mean Tatsuki? No...theres only one lesbian in the show (as far as I am aware) and its the girl (not sure of her name). They're just really really good friends who care for each other :) 3- Ichigo's father is ...weird..its just comedy :p |
Was Ichigo under the effects of Aizen's shikai when the latter blocked the former's blade with one finger? Aizen's absolute hypnosis only works when the person has witnessed his shikai, and Ichigo has not seen the release. Or has he?
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