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BUT anyways, I just hope that Amata doesn't get bashed around again I mean that was pretty damn harsh for them to do to the main character guy even if he is getting bashed by his other half (speculation)....sigh** I just want this over and done (hurry and give us our answers!!!!) |
kuromitsu: I had a pretty similar reaction. I don't like Kagura as a character, and that aside he's just behaving in ways that're uncomfortable for me (they take a bit of the fun air out of the show, perhaps unintentionally).
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In other news: looks like we'll have some car chases in the next macross series? And looks like Sazanka and Malloy will start getting their chance to shine soon? |
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In response to the writing part: Well maybe the writers were trying to portray that...It's like saying you have a choice but if you don't pick this one you'll regret it (actually that's more subtle...maybe it's more like 'you'll feel severe pain' lol). Either she'll put herself through pain or Kagura will inflict the pain lol It's his carnal instincts coming into play. Now that he has told Mikono who she is and blah blah...he expects her to come to him willingly (but there is still a hint of doubt evident). |
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>miketyson Yeah, it's pretty damn uncomfortable, and I'm not quite sure it's intentional. (The preview made me think it might be because that's pretty much an open threat... but maybe I'm just being hopeful. We'll learn more in next week's ep.) Spoiler for :
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Hey Kagura, you forgot to reverse the bullet that went through your shoulder bud =)
and about damn time Amata gets some new powers, the reverse power of everything was starting to get annoying. Can't wait for Subs to know exactly what Zen Fudo and Amata are saying before and during his new power awakening, might give more clues. I know the writers are trying to balance things but as far as I'm concerned this show is still revolved around Amata while developing everyone else around him. (maybe Kagura and Mikono too but we don't nearly know as much information about them as we do Amata). And as far as I'm concerned Kagura is the enemy for siding with Mykage (his so called master) and killing students just so he can get his long lost love (speculation). I don't like the new ending, looks like it was created in half a day (too much green). Gives no speculation, No new scenes or greater insight to the end (good song though). But like Zen Fudo, a magician should never reveal their secrets I guess. I doubt the Series will become centered around disappearing girl, this seems more for the fans. Great episode though. |
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kuromitsu: yeah, I don't get the sense the staff are seeing the creepiness in Kagura. It seems more to start and stop at the level of "lol, isn't it hilarious how much of a single-minded beast he is!".
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ETA: I don't think that Kagura lines had to make sense word by word or that the writers are using some real full logic to it. Or so it seems to me. But who knows, we should try to hear his speech in reverse to find any backward messages: I'm trolling all of youuu. *runs* :) |
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But yeah, aside of the creeper vibes, the confusing reverse speech and the fight scene in the first half it was a good episode - and at least Amata got a powerup, though we're yet to see at what price. |
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I'll be honest, I don't really understand the issue with Kagura's speech or personality. He is a creeper, so to speak, in that he has a one-track mind and is obsessive. We've known this for a long time so seeing his obsessions actually reach their goal was a good moment to develop his character and, I think, they did fine with it. He's an awkward individual, expected, and he's quite the bucket of red roses: thorny but still endearing. His speech being completely strange and getting called out on it, really does make it a point that his eagerness makes him rather short-sighted and stupid; there's no better way to really explain the reaction he has with Mikono. He reverses his speech out of a childish giddy/nervousness and, when called out on it, he shrinks back and apologizes, saying he didn't mean it. It's exactly the actions and reactions of children playing...
... And that's what Kagura is, a naive kid wearing his heart on his sleeve. Hell, they're all kids as no one in this cast is as old they seem to be acting on a general basis. I don't even think his speech mannerism have to make sense on a broad basis (though I wouldn't say they don't, his *I lied* was, like I said, his getting called out on his way of talking). It's a character trait to some degree for his speech to be strange, stupid, and childish. I honestly feel like the speech is being analyzed to a point where the meaning of it is being lost... I had no trouble following it this episode and it made other episodes make more sense when concerning Mikono. I also thought it was pretty clear that when he finally admitted to his shenanigans that he was actually telling truth and, because of it, blushing. Long story short? He masks his speech because he's a tsundere. His speech with everyone else has been consistently the same and I don't see any rise of confusion from it, or why it would need to be reversed... or why we would think it would need to be reversed. Now, his power is pretty much over the top and crazy-stupid. But he's also never won any battles, ever. No matter how strong he gets, he's always beaten back by Amata and co.. The episode itself... Spoiler for Is it really a mystery anymore?:
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Vena: it's the tone really, the way he's presented has a glibness to it that doesn't sit right with everyone (e.g.: I don't care for it)...though to a point it's a matter of taste.
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Amata will be the Wing of the Sun since Mykage planning to do something with him by making him more suffer as Mikono now thinking about Kagura is even more then ever and hardly pay attention to Amata nor his feeling to her..... Kagura's reverse language: I hate you - I love/like you I want to kill you - ????? What the opposite for this one??? Smell good - awful smell |
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As for Zess, I think that line was a point of concern as in "You're not the hero of a story, don't push yourself!", it matches well with her panicked state over his getting his ass handed to him later. I honestly don't see negativity in her, she's taken large steps forward this episode with spilling the beans, so to speak, and trying to support Amata. In her position, you'd have little choice but to be sad when the person you care for is on a path (quite literally this episode) of self destruction for a girl that (as far as you as Zessi know) is going to abandon him. That's a lot of depression. |
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