The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 25 Discussion / Poll [2006 TV ep. 1]
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Yashiro
2006-04-13 08:04
Perfect 10 from me. It was funny, original, and VERY entertaining. I absolutely loved it.
DannoHung
2006-04-13 08:06
You can't rate genius!
Keitarou
2006-04-13 10:21
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Originally Posted by DannoHung
You can't rate genius!
True, true. The first episode was a stroke of genius.
I'm still going to vote a 10 because of that. :)
Seen that episode four times, once with a friend, and couldn't stop myself from laughing every time. Starting the show in this way is simply brilliant. It has to be one of the most unique, if not the most unique, first episode I've seen and I can't even point out all of the genuine things in it.
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- The opening, as senseless it is, is catching and has a nice touch due to the inserted credits by the SOS Dan (note the credits for Haruhi).
- The animation and design as a whole is on another level. Kyoto Animation outdo themselves this time, that's far above their former works like FMP and AIR.
- The whole crappy amateurish styled movie look is well done. The quality of the picture is grained, zooms-ins and -outs are shacky and fail to maintain the sharpness, same goes for fade-outs. The pans are stocky and never manage to completely leave other things out of the picture.
- Also nice all the zoom-ins while moving, Kyon is never able to go straight thus resulting in shifts, add the weird angles and Haruhi jumping in at messed up scenes, fun at a high production level all the way.
- The blue screen and its effects in the changing scene, hilarious.
- Effects are just lol, as is the cat and Yuki always trying to put it back on her shoulder. :D
- The cheap elevator-music is another mark for such an amateur production. Score here as well. :)
- Script is cheap, lacks continuity, jumps throughout the whole plot and has some of the usual wannabe deep conversations which are the standard in anime (Yuki and Itsuki and their future-talk). You can truly see how much time and thought Haruhi did invest in this.
- It does also not lack the usual things. There are commercials in it, the eyecatch (again by Haruhi) isn't missing. The transition at the end from 4:3 to 16:9 - stylish. The disclaimer at the end and the credits, this is a perfectly done movie/episode with all the stuff which belongs in it. Just that it was done by real amateurs/students. :)
- The narration/monologues by Kyon. Genuine. It adds so much to the whole episode and finally somebody speaks up to point out all those mahou shoujo elements and them being out-of-place. His sarcasm fits for every scene.
- Also nice all those disturbances, car door closes just when Yuki is talking, the teachers find them on the roof when the fireworks go off, Tsuruya unable to control her laugh (well yeah, that was pretty laughable).
BrokenWingz
2006-04-13 10:54
I gave it a 9, it was definitely genius thought it wouldve been easier to grasp the ep if i had saw ep 2 beforehand.
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e.g the vesper, alien and fighting maid v fighting girl alien, was soo Haruhi but at that point of time i didnt even know who Haruhi was, might even go rewatch ep 1 to get a better feel for the ep xD
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Took me 4minutes to figure that it was a episode about them making a movie and not just some square and small looking screen >.>.
Couldnt stop laughing with the music played when they zoomed into the battle and the poses was a riot xD
rainz
2006-04-13 10:56
The attention to "detail" is amazing in the episode. For example...
Notice how she moves her hand down for cover between the shots and also blushes. Amazing detail for something that lasts for like 0.5 second.
...and no, I didn't notice this purely because I rewinded to watch the panty shot many times. *cough*
And I'm still unsure about what caused the blue screen in the changing scene. As far as I know, those usually occur when you rewind the tape and shoot over something... which means that he might really have record something... hmm...
RedFrame
2006-04-13 12:47
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Originally Posted by rainz
...and no, I didn't notice this purely because I rewinded to watch the panty shot many times. *cough*
hmmm......:innocent:
ok ! Back to suzumiya...
the battle bg music somehow sound like snes FF battle music.Something that make me laugh all the way through the mikuru battle:heh:
~rin rin rin magical rin rin~
Xellos-_^
2006-04-13 13:03
didn't like the eps at the beignning and even after i figureout it was movie i still didn't know what to think of it. but after watching ep2 and i re-watch ep1 and it make a lot more sense and much more funny.
Shadowscar
2006-04-13 13:05
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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^
didn't like the eps at the beignning and even after i figureout it was movie i still didn't know what to think of it. but after watching ep2 and i re-watch ep1 and it make a lot more sense and much more funny.
I was pretty much the same way as you i actually fell asleep watching the first episode the first time i was quite bored with it, but the second episode totally reclaimed my excitement for this series, as well as the ending and the intro just kick ass
i had to vote a 3 for this episode though cause i could not stay awake :(
Shinji103
2006-04-13 13:17
You all do know that this "first episode" is actually episode 0, right? It was officially announced as episode 0 (just because afk called it episode 1 doesn't mean it is, they aren't the company making it). I believe it's even getting its own DVD. The "second" episode is the actual first episode.
10 all the way, baby. :D
Woland
2006-04-13 13:39
Rating this one is hard, expecialy because I think (like others said) it would incease his value one episode after another (and I can't wait for the eventual "making-of").
Said that I must agree with...
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Originally Posted by DannoHung
You can't rate genius!
Very true! :D
Shirobane
2006-04-13 14:12
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Originally Posted by DannoHung
You can't rate genius!
Since I've voted too high on the ep 2 poll, I'm gonna be agreeing with you :p
But I'd rate Genius as eleventy-million :D
melange
2006-04-13 16:17
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Originally Posted by Shinji103
You all do know that this "first episode" is actually episode 0, right? It was officially announced as episode 0 (just because afk called it episode 1 doesn't mean it is, they aren't the company making it). I believe it's even getting its own DVD. The "second" episode is the actual first episode.
10 all the way, baby. :D
It depends on whether you want to follow Haruhi's definition or Kyon's definition... I side with Haruhi! :D And this will definitely win the festival prize!!!
Kaoru Chujo
2006-04-13 16:36
The episodes are 01 and 02, not 00 and 01. Confirm that on this page of the SOS-dan site. The movie-within-an-anime was episode 00 of Mikuru's Adventure. Original Japanese files on WinNY are also numbered 01 and 02. This is the only thing for which we need not take Haruhi's word.
I gave this first episode a perfect ten. This is the only episode of anything I have ever given that score to in an AS poll. As good as episode 2 is, it does not reach the heights of this all-time-classic episode.
Adigard
2006-04-13 17:09
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Originally Posted by rainz
And I'm still unsure about what caused the blue screen in the changing scene. As far as I know, those usually occur when you rewind the tape and shoot over something... which means that he might really have record something... hmm...
I didn't even think about that... but I guess we'll find out during the "making of" Ep (or the folks who have read the novels can let us know). ^^
sophismata
2006-04-13 23:10
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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo
I gave this first episode a perfect ten. This is the only episode of anything I have ever given that score to in an AS poll. As good as episode 2 is, it does not reach the heights of this all-time-classic episode.
I'm similar; I believe that 10 is a perfect rating, and since nothing is perfect, 9 is the highest I normally rate things.
This was perfect.
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Originally Posted by melange
It depends on whether you want to follow Haruhi's definition or Kyon's definition... I side with Haruhi! :D And this will definitely win the festival prize!!!
Kyon is, of course, correct in both matters. Suzumiya may be enthusiastic, but Kyon is realistic.
melange
2006-04-13 23:23
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Originally Posted by sophismata
Kyon is, of course, correct in both matters. Suzumiya may be enthusiastic, but Kyon is realistic.
Realism doesn't matter if reality can be changed. DUN DUN DUN DUN :D
:uhoh: :heh:
sophismata
2006-04-13 23:29
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Originally Posted by melange
Realism doesn't matter if reality can be changed. DUN DUN DUN DUN :D
You win... for now...
monir
2006-04-14 00:34
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Originally Posted by melange
Realism doesn't matter if reality can be changed. DUN DUN DUN DUN :D
:uhoh: :heh:
To be on the fair side of things, inspiration for the change will have to come from none other than Kyon in one of his random observation no matter how little of a potato he is considered by Haruhi, i.e. the inspiration for S.O.S dan. :)
Maids! Maids! Maids!
2006-04-14 01:12
I gave it a ten. After watching the first episode, I realized I hadn't been so excited about seeing the next since Misato first promised "lots of fanservice" during a preview of Evangelion.