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Ruby Princess 2012-10-30 10:37

Are student/teacher relationships allowed...
 
... if the student and the teacher are dating before one of the partners becomes a teacher?

Kirito 2012-10-30 10:51

I guess it depends on whether the person is still in teachers college/university doing interns at schools or if the age gap is too great ie 16 year old dating an 24 year old. It's hard to say considering that the teacher and student relationship is such a controversial concept and the laws of consent can play a big role in such acts at times.

Also I think that school reputation can also be a factor since rumors within a school setting can get really out of hand at times

Ruby Princess 2012-10-30 10:52

Well, I know a guy and a girl... the girl (26 years old) plans to start teaching at college the upcoming Spring 2013 semester, and the guy (24 years old) plans to take one of the courses that she will be teaching the Summer 2013 semester. Would it be prohibited for them to continue dating?

kyp275 2012-10-30 10:56

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Originally Posted by Ruby Princess (Post 4418787)
Well, I know a guy and a girl... the girl (26 years old) plans to start teaching at college the upcoming Spring 2013 semester, and the guy (24 years old) plans to take one of the courses that she will be teaching the Summer 2013 semester. Would it be prohibited for them to continue dating?

In that scenario, it would be up to the university. Can the college stop her from continue to date him? no, but if it's against their policy, they sure can fire her for it.

Best solution is just to take the course taught by someone else, if that's not possible, then just don't tell anyone and behave appropriately on the campus grounds.

willx 2012-10-30 10:57

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Originally Posted by Ruby Princess (Post 4418787)
Well, I know a guy and a girl... the girl (26 years old) plans to start teaching at college the upcoming Spring 2013 semester, and the guy (24 years old) plans to take one of the courses that she will be teaching the Summer 2013 semester. Would it be prohibited for them to continue dating?

Interesting fact pattern, I don't think it would be prohibited -- but she would have to disclose the conflict and either 1) she won't be allowed to teach the class, 2) he won't be allowed to take the class or 3) they can both be in the class but an impartial 3rd party will grade/evaluate his performance in that class.

Endless Soul 2012-10-30 10:57

They're both adults. There shouldn't be a problem providing the Teacher can grade the homework objectively, and without letting their relationship getting in the way.

Caveat: I'm a bit more open-minded than a lot of folks.

Endless "Objective" Soul

Kirito 2012-10-30 10:59

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Well, I know a guy and a girl... the girl (26 years old) plans to start teaching at college the upcoming Spring 2013 semester, and the guy (24 years old) plans to take one of the courses that she will be teaching the Summer 2013 semester. Would it be prohibited for them to continue dating?
Well if they're dating now before she starts teaching and before the guy start his program (with her teaching it) I believe it's okay. But when she starts her new teaching job this upcoming spring it's practically not since the relationship has to been kept "professional". Regardless of age it's still not acceptable in the education background unless they're married or something... who knows?

It's such a controversial concept so it's hard to find a definite compromise to this subject.

willx 2012-10-30 11:06

Again, I'd point out third-party grading and evaluations are a common practice outside of a relationship (dating) issue. Like if there is a relation of any kind, like relatives or if one party feels prejudiced or would otherwise be accused of unfairness -- a third party does the evaluations. It's in existing college policies already .. :heh:

ArchmageXin 2012-10-30 11:22

Fact of the matter is, professionals, I.E Teachers, doctors, priests, lawyers are not suppose to be sleeping with their clients (I.E students, believer, patients) because the idea of (undue influence), and in teacher's case, special favoritism.

So your friend must show

1) She is not using her power as a teach to coerce him to date her. This is usually ok for you since both parties always saw each other pre-teaching days.

2) Is a lot harder, while one can argue at the age of 24 is better than 14 to get hit by accusations of "Teacher's pet", but if people start suggesting he is getting A not because he is a good student but because he is nailing the teacher, then you got a serious problem on your hand. Furthermore, you don't want get hit by a full scale investigation on academic dishonesty (This could mean serious business)

Moral of the story, keep things off campus, don't kiss the teacher in class, and keep the whole thing quiet until you are done with the course. And ask the boyfriend never raise the issue until he graduates (I.E telling his friend he was being frisky with the professor)

Funny enough, we accountants don't have this rule, I guess we CPAs, unlike other professionals, are not cool enough to seduce our clients. :heh:

Ridwan 2012-10-30 11:23

This thread reminds me of my gradeschool days...

Kafriel 2012-10-30 11:23

As long as they don't openly express their relationship within the teacher's working space, I don't see any problem. That is, of course, provided that the teacher is objective towards that certain student, unless other issues have arised.

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It would be way to much of a coincidence. The teacher just miraculously starts teaching at the same school her/his girl/boyfriend is attending?
It's feasible in college/university, but any degree of exposure could place the teacher at risk of losing his position.

NoemiChan 2012-10-30 11:24

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Originally Posted by Ruby Princess (Post 4418770)
... if the student and the teacher are dating before one of the partners becomes a teacher?

You meant.. if my current girlfriend whom I'm currently dating will be my school teacher???

Possible. But please keep the emotions outside the school gate....

kaito-kid 2012-10-30 11:26

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Originally Posted by Ruby Princess (Post 4418787)
Well, I know a guy and a girl... the girl (26 years old) plans to start teaching at college the upcoming Spring 2013 semester, and the guy (24 years old) plans to take one of the courses that she will be teaching the Summer 2013 semester. Would it be prohibited for them to continue dating?

prohibited? Who cares.. I'm sure it'll sure make the sex hotter!:cool:

Xellos-_^ 2012-10-30 11:37

regardin Techer/Student relatioships

If it is good enough for Newt Grinch it is good enough for Everybody.

bigdeal000 2012-10-30 12:01

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Originally Posted by Kafriel (Post 4418824)
It's feasible in college/university, but any degree of exposure could place the teacher at risk of losing his position.

Well, yes, you're right (even though I attend college right now and I've never seen a teacher so young). But I was thinking about high school actually. You know, when I was in high school, my english teacher told me that's incorrect to use teacher for college - the term would be professor. I never talked informal english outside of animesuki (and I'm new here), and was only used to the formal way we talked in class. That's why teacher = high school to me, so I never really thought about college until "Ruby Princess" replied to my post with that info. Still, a college teacher so young when I see only old hags everywhere - guess different countries are well...different :eyespin:

SaintessHeart 2012-10-30 12:06

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^ (Post 4418840)
regardin Techer/Student relatioships

If it is good enough for Newt Grinch it is good enough for Everybody.

You mean you can support this? :D

Singaporean female teacher jailed for sex with student

Eragon 2012-10-30 12:19

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart (Post 4418881)

That "Cuddle Cafe" is really something. Though to be honest, customers would need to have tremendous self control :heh: That cafe is a test of your will power :D

* sorry about getting off-topic. That news was something I couldn't ignore ;)

Grifis 2012-10-30 12:50

It's not allowed but that doesn't mean they can't date in secret and have a happy ending like Na-chan and Mieko in Marmalade Boy.

When I was in college, I know of a professor who used to date her professor when she was a student and got married after she graduated. Anyways...

NinjaRealist 2012-10-30 13:42

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Originally Posted by Ruby Princess (Post 4418770)
... if the student and the teacher are dating before one of the partners becomes a teacher?

It would be against the rules of most universities to do this. It's a conflict of interest.

I boned a girl I was TAing once and it was actually super awkward.

LeoXiao 2012-10-30 14:41

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart (Post 4418881)

Well she was having sex with a minor. According to article she could've gotten ten years instead or just one.

ArchmageXin 2012-10-30 14:53

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Originally Posted by LeoXiao (Post 4419084)
Well she was having sex with a minor. According to article she could've gotten ten years instead or just one.

If the sexes was reversed it would been 20+ years lol.

willx 2012-10-30 15:05

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Originally Posted by NinjaRealist (Post 4419003)
It would be against the rules of most universities to do this. It's a conflict of interest.

I boned a girl I was TAing once and it was actually super awkward.

Did you also grade her papers..? Cause that could be problematic when she gets an A- (good enthusiasm but not a "team" *cough cough* player .. :heh:)

NoemiChan 2012-10-30 17:26

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart (Post 4418881)

Thanks. That made me imagine myself as a kindergarden teacher with loli girlfriend... GOd.:twitch:

NoobHunterD 2012-10-30 20:20

not during as a student. once graduated, go get wild!

Kyuu 2012-10-31 01:37

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart (Post 4418881)

Part of me feels depressed -- for being older than that teacher. :heh:

Cosmic Eagle 2012-10-31 07:04

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Originally Posted by Endless Soul (Post 4418797)
They're both adults. There shouldn't be a problem providing the Teacher can grade the homework objectively, and without letting their relationship getting in the way.

Caveat: I'm a bit more open-minded than a lot of folks.

Endless "Objective" Soul

Yeah, just keep quiet about it on campus grounds.

Other than that there's absolutely nothing wrong with it since everyone has his own freedoms

winterbaby 2012-10-31 20:07

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Originally Posted by Ruby Princess (Post 4418787)
Well, I know a guy and a girl... the girl (26 years old) plans to start teaching at college the upcoming Spring 2013 semester, and the guy (24 years old) plans to take one of the courses that she will be teaching the Summer 2013 semester. Would it be prohibited for them to continue dating?

The guy should be older than girl. In a girl and guy relationship, the male partner should be older. Well that's the proper ideal couple. Second, teachers should socialize with his/her students. Students look up to their teachers 90 percent of the time. Dating a student is very unusual behavior!!!

Irenicus 2012-10-31 20:20

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Originally Posted by winterbaby (Post 4420776)
The guy should be older than girl. In a girl and guy relationship, the male partner should be older. Well that's the proper ideal couple.

Screw that. Have you never been a teenage boy?

Sigh, people.

NoemiChan 2012-10-31 20:37

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Originally Posted by Irenicus (Post 4420786)
Screw that. Have you never been a teenage boy?

Sigh, people.

Yeah. I preferred more mature partner to make me mature. Mature women knows all the needs of innocent men....:heh:

willx 2012-10-31 22:29

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan (Post 4420802)
Yeah. I preferred more mature partner to make me mature. Mature women knows all the needs of innocent men....:heh:

What about innocent mature women? :heh: (I realized I'm older than she is .. :upset:)

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...f/fd/Umeko.jpg

SaintessHeart 2012-10-31 22:40

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Originally Posted by Irenicus (Post 4420786)
Screw that. Have you never been a teenage boy?

Sigh, people.

Show some standards! Go for lolis younger girls, not MILFs!

NoemiChan 2012-10-31 23:14

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Originally Posted by willx (Post 4420915)
What about innocent mature women? :heh: (I realized I'm older than she is .. :upset:)

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...f/fd/Umeko.jpg

I want to bite my tongue.... Anime and real life are two different worlds:eyespin:

Destined_Fate 2012-10-31 23:27

I don't think it's ever a good idea, the urge to give special treatment(Or being too hard on so you don't look like you're giving special treatment) is too great to someone you're in a relationship with and can lead to abuse. It's why the military frowns heavily upon it as well though I wont get in that. They have many other issues involving the sexes that they're still trying to fix but keep hitting walls for various reasons every time they reach some sense of progress.

So I would suggest that a different class is chosen so no issues come of it.

LeoXiao 2012-11-01 00:23

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Originally Posted by winterbaby (Post 4420776)
The guy should be older than girl. In a girl and guy relationship, the male partner should be older. Well that's the proper ideal couple.

Hm, I've thought it's the other way around. Women live longer than men, so in a relationship they should get ahead start the couple can die around similar times.

Kafriel 2012-11-01 00:52

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Originally Posted by bigdeal000 (Post 4418876)
Well, yes, you're right (even though I attend college right now and I've never seen a teacher so young). But I was thinking about high school actually. You know, when I was in high school, my english teacher told me that's incorrect to use teacher for college - the term would be professor. I never talked informal english outside of animesuki (and I'm new here), and was only used to the formal way we talked in class. That's why teacher = high school to me, so I never really thought about college until "Ruby Princess" replied to my post with that info. Still, a college teacher so young when I see only old hags everywhere - guess different countries are well...different :eyespin:

You are correct, professor is the proper term for college instructors. As for the age factor, I've seen guys taking a permanent slot in our staff roster at 28~32 and one woman at the same age range, who was given the position for our autoCAD courses. Do note, she was pregnant the last time I saw her... :eyebrow:

Malkuth 2012-11-01 03:01

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Originally Posted by Ruby Princess (Post 4418770)
... if the student and the teacher are dating before one of the partners becomes a teacher?

No, they are not allowed in most countries independent of the circumstances and in some they are criminal consequences for the teacher, but not the student and his/her family (for some incomprehensible reason, since in most case he/she initiates the relationship)... now how does that make sense is another very dangerous question :uhoh:

So if you lust your teacher, better avoid enticing him/her, unless you also want to ruin his/her life or live in paradise :p

winterbaby 2012-11-01 06:26

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Originally Posted by Irenicus (Post 4420786)
Screw that. Have you never been a teenage boy?

Sigh, people.

I would never be a teenage boy though!!! I'm a fucken girl!!!!

Cosmic Eagle 2012-11-01 07:40

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Originally Posted by winterbaby (Post 4420776)
The guy should be older than girl. In a girl and guy relationship, the male partner should be older. Well that's the proper ideal couple.

And who determined that and by what right?

willx 2012-11-01 08:17

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Originally Posted by Kafriel (Post 4421042)
You are correct, professor is the proper term for college instructors.

Actually, depending on qualifications and position hired for someone teaching at a college could be a "Professor" "Assistant Professor (tenure track)" "Assistant Professor (non-tenure track)" and "Instructor"

I remember as a young school boy in high school there was this one TA that was so .. if I recall she was italian with dirty blonde hair .. :love:

winterbaby 2012-11-01 09:31

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle (Post 4421300)
And who determined that and by what right?

Well everyone I know including myself determined that. And its an opinion. You need a right to believe in something.


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