Hyouka - General Discussion
 

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Official Website: http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/kotenbu/



Quote from ANN:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com.au/n...hyoka-tv-anime

Japanese Wikipedia entry for those interested:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%80%...83%BC%E3%82%BA


Staff List:

Director : Yasuhiro Takemoto (FMP)
Series composition : Shoji Gatoh (FMP's creator)
Character-designer : Futoshi Nishiya (Nichijou)
Music : Kouhei Tanaka

Cast List: (3/29/12)

Yūichi Nakamura as Hōtarō Oreki
Satomi Satou as Eru Chitanda
Daisuke Sakaguchi as Satoshi Fukube
Ai Kayano as Mayaka Ibara
Satsuki Yukino as Tomoe Oreki
Ryotaro Okiayu as Masashi Togaito
Yukana as Fuyumi Irisu
Mami Koyama as Youko Itoigawa
Saori Hayami as Kaho Jyuumonji
Aoi Yuuki as Korako Eba
Yoshihisa Kawahara as Koreyuki Tani
Masumi Asano as Ayako Kouchi
Aki Yoyosaki as Rie Zenna
Yui Ogura as Kayo Zenna
Atsushi Abe as Tomohiro Haba
Mariya Ise as Misaki Owakiguchi
Miyu Irino as Jirou Sugimura
Ami Koshimuzu as Midori Yamanishi
Hirohashi Ryou as Mamiko Senoue
Yuuki Tai as Takeo Katsuta
Takumi Yamazaki as Omichi-sensei
Katsuyuki Konishi as Takeo Kaitou
Nobuyuki Kofushi as Quiz Research Club Head
Youko Hikasa as Quiz Research Club Chairman
Kanae Itou as Confectionery Study Club Girl A
Nozumi Masu as Confectionery Study Club Girl B

Yes! This is promising news. I won't bow down to KyoAni just yet, since Nichijou was another attempt to do something a bit "different" from their usual fare which failed for the most part. How good this ends up depends on the writing and story of the original book.

In before Haruhi fans start crying. We'll definitely get that season three someday, don't worry.

im one of the ones that were hoping for little busters! or beign too optimistic FMP!, well i hope they get their touch back the one the lost after clannad as.

Lol give it up :p That ship is long gone :D

So, the sleeping giant finally awakes, eh? An interesting choice for them.

No, we won't, and this confirms it. I think I'm done with this studio.

Listen, there has never been a good mystery anime. Not ever. Not even KyoAni can make something like that work.

I will have some expectations for this. Kadokawa anime properties this year have all been met with financial failure, including Kyoani's Nichijou. They want a hit so bad that they dug up some relatively unknown novel from 10 years ago. I guess apparently their more recent titles just aren't good enough for them. The premise itself has hints of a less boisterous Haruhi on it, so in a way this seems like Kadokawa/Kyoani going back to basics(many people have argued that Kyoani is at their best when adapting prose like Light Novels or Visual Novels rather than manga). And I'm not too surprised that they chose such an obscure work, since Kyoani has been known to make obscure works very popular.

Reactivate the hype machine, tune her up and get her going again full steam cause it's that time again.

All jokes about Kyoani's bloated reputation aside, I'm slightly perplexed that this looks nothing like what they typically do and even seems to be focused around a male character, albeit one that is seemingly of the weak-willed and perpetually getting bossed around by girls mold that otaku seem to find so fascinating. I.....assume he's the only one and everyone else in the club are really cute girls? :confused:

Also some people probably still find my posts on Kyoani irksome, but I have to ask, do people really need to point out that it's not Haruhi, Little Busters or a Full Metal Panic sequel every single time Kyoani makes an announcement about an adaptation? :eyebrow:

So, basically instead of animating Haruhi (which everyone wants) we get a weak Haruhi clone (which no one wants).

I'm starting to think that Kadokawa are actually trying to financially destroy themselves.

Uh what? Disappearance was just last year and Season 2 was 09. That's only a year between seasons, which is pretty damn short considering some other franchises that needed sequels way sooner. Shana is an example. S1 in 2004-5, S2 in 2007 and S3 only just now.

I don't know what you're smoking because there's two good mystery animes that are airing right now. The first one is obvious, Mawaru Penguindrum, and the second one is Un-go...


Getting back on topic. As I mentioned in the Kyoani thread, it's good to see Kyoani do something completely different other than milking Haruhi or K-on or the next slice of life/comedy (be it 4koma, gag/parody or w/e). However, I'm fairly sure they are going to moeify the character designs in comparison the novel since Kyoani is good at that.

It's almost 2012. Also, this isn't thread-related at all, but Penguindrum has turned out really really bad.

And your point? There has been 2 Haruhi related material in the last 2 years. Meanwhiles, the last Key VN adaptation was in 2008 and the last FMP was who knows how long. Don't you think you're being a bit selfish.

And you thinking Penguindrum being bad does not mean the whole mystery genre is bad (or the show itself being bad, which imo is far from it). You might not like the genre, but others might :uhoh:. I very much like well-made thrillers/mysteries and since Kyoani has a good track record regarding LN adaptations, I welcome the change.

Do you need a hug?

Lets all cry now because KyoAni are big meanies who don't give us a haruhi anime every year. :confused:

@Kaisos Erranon: I've replied to you in the Kyoto Animation general thread. I strongly advise others to carry on their discussion about what KyoAni should or shouldn't do in that thread, so we can keep this thread on topic. Thanks!

I expect this to do as well as another recent LN-based Kadokawa anime: Gosick.

Puzzled at why they chose this as opposed to something that could almost guarantee them a hit.

Well I see at least two male characters on the cover. A female character and the skirt of a second that may or may not be important to the plot.

I absolutely love mysteries, which is why I'm of the opinion that anime has never done a single one well.

You hate Kindaichi too ...?

It's not that unknown (even relative wise). The author and his works have won numerous awards and this is his debut work (isn't he like THE leading figure for the seishun mystery genre?). Besides, they're probably going for the entire series rather than the first title (which has like what 200 something pages only?), and the series is still on-going (I honestly prefer completed series being adapted).

Though the fact we're getting a "daily puzzle"-type adaptation rather than something like Incite Mill from the same author means KyoAni didn't stray too far from their current schedule.

Have you read the source material itself? In any case if you ever did do shed some light into the story. I for one am curious.

I think we'll never see a FMP sequel this way. Such a shame, cause FMP is their best series imo.

Do we know when this series is suppose to come out? Because since we know of no other KyoAni projects at all after the K-On movie, they might have two projects for next year, since that seems to be how they operate now. One for the spring and one for the fall. Depending on length and all. They managed two seasons of material plus a movie this year. So no telling how much they could get done next year, again depending on how long this series is suppose to last.

I believe that there might be two projects in the works right now. IIRC back then, they announced that the next project will be announced in a magazine. This one was revealed in their official site.

I'll give it a right amount of optimism. For all we know, we had K-ON and Haruhi side by side. Clannad After Story and Munto TV. So why not? :heh:

Yeah, reading his entry on wikipedia, you are correct. I meant to say relatively unknown in the typical anime-manga fandom circles. Typical 2ch reaction was of the "what on Earth is this?" and "京アニはおわこん" ilk. Barely anyone there was familar with the source material as well.

Well I'm glad the rumor that they'd be doing Nisioisin's Zaregoto novels turned out to be false -- as much as I'd love to see those animated, KyoAni is not the studio to try it. Hopefully this series is a better fit for their style.

Penguindrum has mysteries in it, but it's not part of the mystery genre any more than, say, Lost was. If you want to point to a good example of mystery in anime, I'd go with Ghost in the Shell.

sure, haruhi is a masterpiece and penguindrum is really bad:heh:

Kyo-ani making anime without any moe bait, that is a win already.

And LOL at Mawapen hate.

How can you know that for sure :D ?

Oh you're right, the anime chara design might similar to K-on as we speaking. :p

Btw on serious note, you shouldn't be angry as animation fan when an studio making project without thinking any profit (not like thinking "OMG we must making haruhi every year!!! money money money" instead) and make something that just interest them in another value.

Its getting rare we got title like that on these capitalism day, so why so mad?

That is one of the many questions. Aside from the one cover seen at the top of this thread, does this series have an art style?

Wow, so much Kyoani hate. :heh:
Anyway, Haruhi's down for now because its composer, Satoru Kousaki, is down due to health concerns. And besides, like Shana, this would be the ultimate test for Haruhi's popularity: massive time gaps between productions.

Hyou-ka looks like a more "traditional-styled" anime series art-wise. Design looks like what amateur animators would submit in certain projects (simplistic and having vibrant colors, no offense to Kyoani's level of animation, by the way).

They made plenty K-ON...

Yep, that's also my point. Time to take a break from gold digging a bit.

This is the novel art though, for all we know Kyoani could just completely change it for the anime.

I'm personaly happy to see Kyoani doing this and hope it'll turn out good.

Is that just the same as telling a theater to stop showing movies?

Also, :topicoff:

Some "unusual" side of me hopes that it doesn't change.

Piecing together what the Japanese Wikipedia says on this via the every so useless google translator it dificult. There seem to be five books in this series from 2001 to 2010. This guy has written a lot of other series as well. Mystery and horror it seems. I can't pick out anything really useful in terms of plot that wasn't in the AnimeNews article. I can pick out there seem to be three boys in the cast and up to six girls (one of which being the older college age sister). However I can't piece together if all these characters are in the first book.

He's not. He's composing for Kizu and Nise next year.

Judging by what little art I can find, it seems to be similar style to early Haruhi art or maybe something with a little more pastel look. Or maybe Kimi ni Todoke in its serious or normal art style.

Oh, so that means that Kyoani has other plans instead. :heh:
Welp.

I'd like to ask and remind everyone that the purpose of this thread is to discuss this show. We do have a general Kyoto Animation thread for people who want to discuss broader topics about the studio, or discuss the prospects of other shows being animated.

Posts going forward that whine/complain/bitch about the fact that this show is getting animated for those sorts of reasons (i.e. why didn't they do XYZ instead?!?!) will be deleted for being off-topic. I'd ask for everyone's help in reporting these sorts of off-topic posts and not replying to them so that tangents aren't allowed to flourish.

Only the first 4 characters seemed to be in the classic literature club mentioned in the first post. Honestly there aren't that many info even in the wiki page.

To add to the intro post by combining few wiki info with some other reader reviews, basically you have the main guy (Oreki Houtarou), who kinda doesn't really care about anything. "If high school life is rose-colored, then this guy is shaded in gray." Extremely afraid of his sister, and obviously very good at deduction but mostly prefer to be in permanent battery-saving mode.

Then the club president (Chitanda Eru), who's an ojousama (...), perfect in everything (... ....), and force Houtarou to do all sort of investigation (... ... ...). She's the second person that Houtarou's afraid of. Her catch phrase is "I, am bothered by it," which she says about everything that she finds puzzling around her. For example, the first mystery in the story
Lastly the two other members. Guy (Fukube Satoshi) is your typical infodump guy (Watson?), Girl (Ibara Mayaka) is Houtarou's osananajimi with a very sharp tongue.

As with this kind of genre, the strength lies not with the mystery but with the characters? In fact, Yonezawa gets pretty much trashed by die-hard mystery fans. I personally read anything if you slap the word "Detective" or "Murder Case" on the novel title regardless of the actual content, so I'm not as picky about crazy twists and intricate mystery (obviously those are huge +++). I am, however, curious in the horror aspect (which doesn't seem to be showing in the reviews ...).