Pokemon Black and White
 

http://kotaku.com/5513079/new-pokemo...-pokemon-white

I mean... if it's not a tactics game or some significant change in gameplay, I'm just not going to care. However, they *are* going back to colors, if we don't count all the remakes.

Preliminary information points to the Nintendo DS. Again. So I'm not too hopeful on the "anything new" part. But I do a good job at predicting the exact opposite of what happens, so we'll see.

They decided to go back to metals for the 3rd game in the 4th gen, now they're going back to colors. Surely this means they're returing the series to it's simple days of glory?! Pfft, doubt it.

Still as always I'll be getting at least one of these versions. Can't say which one yet as we know absolutely nothing about them except 2 new Pokemon and the titles.

What really gets me though is the fact that it's for DS. With the new 3DS console right around the corner, why not make us wait an extra year and give us something "new" in the interactivity department?

Ah well whatever. I'll just sit back and see how many new legendaries they'll spit out at us in the meantime.

I've tossed around the thought that Pokemon is around to generate cash for Nintendo's more expensive and adventurous experiments like Wii Fit and the 3DS, because little children are stupid as hell and will just pour cash at Pokemon.

I'm just wondering why they can't experiment on Pokemon itself. The Japanese game industry is too damn conservative. They cherish the child-only image of the Pokemon brand too much.

Soooo... how much you wanna bet that they're gonna tweak the titles when it reaches stateside?

LOL Racial censoring during localization jokes.

Everything aside from the main games I'd have to agree with you on. The main series is still a very innovative concept and probably no game company could make a similar idea whithout it being claimed of ripping-off Pokemon.

The spin-offs and other multimedia like the anime adaptation are all just some money-generating shitstorm though. Pokemon Dash, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and Pokemon Ranger? Good god. x_x

That is what I'm struggling with. The amount of features that rolled out one after another up to about Ruby and Sapphire are imaginative enough that you can't call its creator Satoshi Tajiri a one-hit wonder, although he has Asperger's syndrome, which does restrict his creative interest somewhat.

I feel that his team probably has thought of all the ideas that people want already, but internal politics with Nintendo higher-ups and Tajiri himself (who supervises development from start to finish) stopped a lot of them. It's hard to criticize the creator, but I won't be surprised if he is the one locked in the Pokemon vision and is the biggest obstacle against the games evolving into something different.

I played a tiny bit of Mystery Dungeon, and I think it's a great step forward. The fact that it and Pokemon Ranger are NOT produced by the flagship Game Freak studio is why I think what I wrote above is true. We simply can't expect different gameplay from the Game Freak studio, it has to come from somewhere else.

Pokemon Light and Pokemon Dark, just to avoid the "racist" claims thats bound to happen when it reaches the US. hahahha

hqaha I knew the next ones would be black and white.

I just bought Soul Silver and they're making a whole new game now!? Dang, these guys won't get my money if I'm too poor to afford it lol.

I iwsh they made it for the wii. I actualy want to throw! My balls

Would full 3d be enough? That's one of the more popular theories, based on job openings they had for 3d graphic specialists.

Interviews with the director have had him state this to be a "revolutionary" title for the franchise, so...

I'd guess Shadow rather than Dark, but yeah that was my thinking too.

Not surprising , there will be always more pokemons .

Same here, it was a fun change of pace...what's your opinion on pokemon stadium? I think you shouldn't expect much from the other pokemon titles anyway, they're not meant to differ from the original that much. This isn't Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest, the pokemon universe is extremely limited (even the addition of routes and Johto was tough), with the only selling point being "more pokemon to catch", every new title (with actually new content) is a gamble. I quit pokemon because their numbers increased too much for me to care anymore, but then again why would I want to play the exact same game with a different colour brand? -ponders deeply-

I hope not. Epic facepalm even thinking about it. I mean, they're just colors...

Pokemon oreo.

Doesn't stop the media guardians from getting upset about it.

*Wishes she had a DS*

Don't really mind. If it is interesting, it will sell. So as a fan, as long as I'm entertained, I don't mind giving Nintendo my money. Kids may be stupid, but if they are entertained and satisfied with what they buy, I don't think we are in any position to criticize them.

They experiment, people complain. They don't, people complain. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Besides, they do try to experiment with stuff like Ranger and PokePark.

Also, Nintendo aims at making games suitable for everyone, so... It is pretty important to keep that image. Besides, if you want non-child-aimed images, you have stuff like short skirts and spats and stuff.

Don't underestimate those crazy people... People went crazy over Yugioh cards, people went crazy over "bad symbols" in Pokemon, so something like this is definitely going to call over some psychopath to sue Nintendo...
Not that they will win though.

You and me both.:heh:

Honestly though I just bought Soul Silver and I just don't feel like investing in the constant stream of Pokemon games being thrown out every year ot two. The main series was good up to the point of Ruby and Sapphire (those were decent), but afterwords it just became too much.

I think the next game should play like Devil Survivor. Nintendo would need some serious balls to pull off something that awesome and revolutionary though.

It never stopped CAPCOM from releasing Rockman.EXE 3 BLACK as "Megaman Battle Network 3 BLUE VERSION" on the US.

Different companies, but, yeah, it can happen.

I love Devil Survivor, but I don't think that as a tactics RPG that it really can't be considered revolutionary.

The cynic in me says that's yet another graphical upgrade, in which they just make all the Pokemon look 3D (meaning they use 3D models instead of pixel art). No change in gameplay.

But again, I tend to predict things and then the exact opposite would happen.

I'd say it'd be revolutionary from what Pokemon usually is though. Not revolutionary by normal standards though.

Also the concept of combining pokemon would be weird and awesome at the same time.

Reverse starter elements please.
Retain classic Grass/Fire/Water, but add a new triangle. Sinnoh starters were nice in that regard, although more often than not, Infernape won compared to others. Except probably a defensive Empoleon.

Grass/Fighting, Fire/Dark, Water/Psychic, anyone? Two triangles.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2e1hzif.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/287gifp.jpg


new pics :)

Looking good actually, seems like they're going 3D.

@Who: Double triangles for starters are definitely a good way to go.

Well there we have another graphical update.

Looks really good . This might be the first Pokemon game i will actually bother to play in a very long time =P

Yeah sad to say, and when it comes down to it, people will complain. I know its just a color, but to other people its more than that. hahah we'll have to see when it reaches stateside. I'm guessing they'll let it slip.

Wow, full 3D battle screen. and i'm guessing the touch screen side will show the HP, LVL, and attack list. this is actually pretty cool! :) although we might have to see what kinds of Pokemon they come up with. A lot were let down by both the story pacing and Pokemon designs in Pearl and Diamond.

Those pics came from this site, I believe. It has more scans from the magazine:

http://pokebeach.com/2010/04/first-g...te-in-corocoro

Odd how Zoroark's shadow isn't attached to its left foot

*sigh* ...I know, I'm just in denial that my country isn't totally a paranoid, frantic, lost cause. :upset:

Not a good triangle, since Dark is immune to Psychic. The only other triangle is Rock/Fighting/Flying, but it doesn't fit well with Fire/Water/Grass.

I know it's immune. But that's where the original typings come in. Dark/Fire and Water/Psychic. Dark beats Psychic, Water beats Fire. There's some balance in that. But hey, it's all wishful thinking.

are you guys REALLY satisfied with that kind of graphic :confused:
at least, think of how each game improved from the previous one
1st --> 2nd, we had colour, tons of new features: breeding, day/night time etc
2nd --> 3rd, everything improved because of performance of gba
3rd --> 4th, improved again since ds>gba
4th --> 5th , what? camera angle changed ??? its just like shift the angle to 45 degree on the map :( and on top of that, it is still on ds

i dont understand why nintendo is in such a hurry , is it because of monster hunter release in the end of year? plz, just put the game onto 3DS otherwise they are just going to ruin the series .......

(edit: the anime is still ongoing and Ash havent fought battle frontier yet :( )

which monster hunter? cuz MH Tri is coming out this month for english.

Monster Hunter Portable 3rd on PSP, and no wonder one of the downloadable request would be Metal Gear hunting :p

Oh...!
The new female main character is a ponytail?
The male's hat or something reminds me of those artificial brains in cartoons that sit in tubes and on a body for some reason.

I don't see any problem with the graphics. Then again, as long as the graphics aren't horrible, I don't usually care.
Besides, like you are pointing out, most improvements are because of the change of the console. 5th generation is also on the DS, so of course it can't change much from what it was in the 4th generation. The graphics for the 4th generation were good enough, so no reason to complain all of a sudden.

You say put it on the 3DS, but you don't even know when that will be out...
And thanks for the nth "this series is going to crash" statement for a rather unconvincing reason.

I like the graphical update especially on the city, but they better not sacrifice a large and vast world for pretty graphics. Also with that angle they should include a panning option.

Fighting graphics look pretty much the usual, which is not a bad thing at all. I just hope the delay between moves is fixed.

Ash is supposed to get to a new island at the same time a new game released, this rule applied to all gens so far. its just exact the same as he broke all female main character's bike with pikachu's thunderbolt , that's one of the pokemon traditions. :heh:

Its not about looking different, there is a huge fundamental difference between 2D and 3D, it literally unlocks a whole different dimension.

That's if its not just a simple graphical change.

In 3D, you interact with the world different from 2D and it can change the way the game is played, whether its an enhancement or not, we still have to wait for more info.

Hm, I was hoping that the next Pokemon game would be on a totally new system, just because I'm tired of the DS. It's got four reincarnations so far and a new one guaranteed; I thought that GBA getting three was really pushing it way back when.