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Klashikari 2008-03-18 04:46

Spice and Wolf - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll
 
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note: Poll is closed until the episode airs in Japan, for obvious reasons.
  • Episode 12 will be broadcasted this 19th march at 1:30 AM (Japan Time Zone),
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serenade_beta 2008-03-18 08:55

Expectations:

After the group safely gets to their destination... The church awaits to ambush them!! Or someone like that... It won't all go perfectly well, that's almost certain.

Souten no Seigyoku 2008-03-18 11:34

I expect something similar. I expect the church to set some sort of trap/test for Nora. Like setting wolves or attack dogs on her. Then watching from a distance for signs of 'magic'. Of course, Horo will take care of it, thereby confirming the churches fears of Nora. Then when they arrive in town....

Rodo K. 2008-03-18 12:43

i agree, i'm expecting the church to set traps for Nora and Horo saves her, which also causes her to reveal her secret. Not in front of the church, though.

deffusse 2008-03-18 14:25

what an episode, magnificence in all ways..... lots of drama in the end is going to come;) btw I didn't expect such a plot developement.... they surprise me quite a lot

Masanori Ota 2008-03-18 14:29

Yeah, raw's out. :rolleyes:

FlareKnight 2008-03-18 14:48

Interesting times. Was actually considering just waiting for the subs this time so I could completely understand things. And yet right now the raw is being downloaded...my convictions are so strong :heh:.

Masanori Ota 2008-03-18 15:38

Ooh boy.

Spoiler:

Deathkillz 2008-03-18 15:41

Spoiler:

Masanori Ota 2008-03-18 16:55

This episode was awesome. Perfect 10 from me.

FlareKnight 2008-03-18 17:00

Spoiler for Ep12:

serenade_beta 2008-03-18 17:07

Spoiler for ep12:


Quote:

Originally Posted by FlareKnight (Post 1469694)
Spoiler for Ep12:

Spoiler:

DanielSong39 2008-03-18 17:08

Something tells me the church or some outside forces will get involved... the Lemerio guy has little incentive to backstab Lawrence otherwise. All Lawrence really wants is to have his debts canceled, so there is little for the Lemerio guy to gain by getting greedy.

I have a feeling that the Lemerio guy is trying to play both sides and find the best way out of the situation. He will pay Nora the 20 Lumione and cancel Lawrence's debt, and use the rest to save his company. It would be foolish to scuttle the entire operation over 70 Lumione, which is what will almost inevitably happen if he pushes things too far.

serenade_beta 2008-03-18 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielSong39 (Post 1469704)
Something tells me the church or some outside forces will get involved... the Lemerio guy has little incentive to backstab Lawrence otherwise. All Lawrence really wants is to have his debts canceled, so there is little for the Lemerio guy to gain by getting greedy.

I have a feeling that the Lemerio guy is trying to play both sides and find the best way out of the situation. He will play Nora the 20 Lumione and cancel Lawrence's debt, and use the rest to save his company. It would be foolish to scuttle the entire operation over 70 Lumione, which is what will almost inevitably happen if he pushes things too far.

Spoiler:

DanielSong39 2008-03-18 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenade_beta (Post 1469717)
Spoiler:

Spoiler for Lemerio:

serenade_beta 2008-03-18 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielSong39 (Post 1469729)
Spoiler for Lemerio:

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FlareKnight 2008-03-18 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenade_beta (Post 1469744)
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

DanielSong39 2008-03-18 17:43

Oh, what irony it would be if Lawrence and co. turned the Lemerio company in to the church and were rewarded for their efforts.

Probably farfetched but it would be a delicious turn of events.

rainbow_star 2008-03-18 18:20

It's out already? Are you guys watch the RAW or the fansub?

Vexx 2008-03-18 18:40

Only the raws are out... just reminding people to keep comments under spoiler for now, eh? (doing pretty good though)

metronome 2008-03-18 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenade_beta (Post 1469744)
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Vexx 2008-03-18 21:50

Spoiler for metronome's idea about Nora:

The light-hearted elements of this series are draped over a really grim political and social landscape.

Flo 2008-03-18 22:48

Lawrence got punk'd, again. lolz

Suddenly the craziest thought just hit my mind.

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kissthestick 2008-03-18 23:12

Hopefully Nora burns the church later on :D

golthin 2008-03-18 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flo (Post 1470227)
Lawrence got punk'd, again. lolz

Suddenly the craziest thought just hit my mind.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

FlareKnight 2008-03-18 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by golthin (Post 1470295)
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Souten no Seigyoku 2008-03-19 00:59

Yes if Nora is proven to be a witch, she'll be killed on the spot since she wont help them get back to the city. Then again, people are stupid and believe anything. Or just dont want to die and will go along with it just to live 1 minute more.

Vexx 2008-03-19 01:24

So... if she floats.... she's made of wood. And..... a witch!!!! Burn her!!! Arrrrr!

DanielSong39 2008-03-19 02:25

The Lemerio head is either going to be proven a genius or downright foolish. Let's see which one it is. It would be neat if it was proven to be part of an intricate plan, but I'm willing to accept it if it turns out that he made an absolutely boneheaded move. Hey, it happens.

The people (and wolves) who side with Lawrence and Horo will be the ones to benefit...

Tri-ring 2008-03-19 04:15

Spoiler for Translation:

Rembr 2008-03-19 10:00

を and は sounds similar, especially if spoken relatively hastily.

I'm pretty sure it's は... but I haven't really studied it.

serenade_beta 2008-03-19 12:26

Final episode preview... this time, very short... :heh:

Spoiler:


Well, time to dig graves for Lemerio...

Rodo K. 2008-03-19 12:39

So wait, now it's Wolf vs. Wolf. This is certainly getting interesting, especially since Horo has got her hands full. Is Horo an outcast from the pack?

DanielSong39 2008-03-19 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenade_beta (Post 1471126)
Well, time to dig graves for Lemerio...

They're idiots.

Well, at least this explains why their business is going under...

DanielSong39 2008-03-19 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vexx (Post 1470113)
Spoiler for metronome's idea about Nora:

The light-hearted elements of this series are draped over a really grim political and social landscape.

Nora would have nothing to lose at that point and would betray Lemerio in a heartbeat. Heck, the church might let her go in return for uncovering a massive smuggling operation.

No question that those guys have a few screws loose - and I have faith that stupidity will not be rewarded.

FlareKnight 2008-03-19 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielSong39 (Post 1471174)
Nora would have nothing to lose at that point and would betray Lemerio in a heartbeat. Heck, the church might let her go in return for uncovering a massive smuggling operation.

No question that those guys have a few screws loose - and I have faith that stupidity will not be rewarded.

Spoiler for Ep12:
Quote:

Originally Posted by serenade_beta (Post 1471126)
Well, time to dig graves for Lemerio...

It really is :heh:. I hope those guys enjoyed their lives to this point, because it is over :). Things haven't been that positive for Horo lately. So they just picked the wrong time to get on her bad side.

Masanori Ota 2008-03-19 13:45

Oh, you guys are being far too negative about all this. :l

Tri-ring 2008-03-19 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rembr (Post 1470942)
を and は sounds similar, especially if spoken relatively hastily.

I'm pretty sure it's は... but I haven't really studied it.

No I have not misheard and the line beforehand is completely different.

Rembr 2008-03-19 17:28

I just listened to it, the line is 裏切るのか、レミリオ商会は.

Cytrus 2008-03-19 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rembr (Post 1471583)
I just listened to it, the line is 裏切るのか、レミリオ商会は.

裏切るのか。 レミリオ商会は。
That's what I hear too. Leaves room for interpretation but I wouldn't say it points to those guys working alone.


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