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Skyfall 2007-11-05 12:51

Higurashi Kai Episode 18 Discussion / Poll
 
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Klashikari 2007-11-05 14:24

same drill folks !

Episode 18: Bullet Summary and Screencaps
Edit: screencaps are available.

I already mentioned the missing pieces in the analysis 17.
That said, there are still other "missing pieces", though most are just the gameboard. Unfortunately, no "BATSHIT" piece, aka Piece #51... yet.

here is the order of the pieces of this episode :
33 (bit) => 35 => 03 + 37 => 32 => 31 => 16 => 08 => 33 (rest) => 34 => 36

they basically didn't swap anything, though Koizumi thing was already changed in the previous episode so.


Excellent episode, as it was fairly enough to conclude the last tid bits of the past. They certainly skip some chunk... especially keiichi's father and Rena.
However, Kudos for the nice "shortcut" for Satoshi and how he was portrayed, though the footsteps weren't creepy enough imho ^^"
The quality was back at the top and we will finally reach the REAL start of Matsuribayashi-hen.

Kryptik 2007-11-05 15:04

Spoiler for Blink Blink:

MarthX 2007-11-05 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kryptik (Post 1240251)
Spoiler for Blink Blink:

It'll probably be shown at the beginning of 19.

Rias 2007-11-05 15:18

Good epsiode, but the timing of the episode could've been done better. Pieces #3 (Red Capsule) and #37 (Ryuugu Rena) was cut way short, and various elements of the Houjou Aunt's murder (background details) was skipped. Ichiro's monologue in #33 should've been included, as that is one of the important element to why the Maebara family moved to Hinamizawa. This was all to allow for the longer part of piece #8, I guess.

It seems that they are alotting only 3 epsiodes for Kakera Musubi, and they have definitely left out quite a bit of minor details. Those who are intrested should definitely read up on the pieces on this forum.

Starks 2007-11-05 15:59

RAW for 18 is out.

Enjoy your weekly dose of gore and lolis.

LuckyCat 2007-11-05 18:15

Ah finally. This is the part of the story I've been waiting for since the very first arc.

Spoiler for Satoshi:

SeventhHS 2007-11-05 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarthX (Post 1240259)
It'll probably be shown at the beginning of 19.

I hope so! It would have had more impact if it were an end-of-episode thing, though.

Spoiler for Matsuribayashi proper:

Sterling01 2007-11-05 18:54

What the Fuck?

Spoiler for :

Kang Seung Jae 2007-11-05 19:34

We need to spice up Keiichi's father... I want that goatee!

Eryops 2007-11-05 20:14

Hauu~'s subs are now available.

Kang Seung Jae 2007-11-05 21:49

ImpulseRAven, here's an advice: Read the OP.

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Delete that post.

Eryops 2007-11-05 21:54

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Originally Posted by SeventhHS (Post 1240482)
Spoiler for Matsuribayashi proper:

While Keiich was the last piece to arrive, I didn't think that they portrayed him as being that. If anything, Rika seemed to indicate that Hanyuu was the final piece instead.

Sterling01 2007-11-05 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eryops (Post 1240757)
While Keiich was the last piece to arrive, I didn't think that they portrayed him as being that. If anything, Rika seemed to indicate that Hanyuu was the final piece instead.

Hanyuu isn't the last piece ether, It's.....

Spoiler for The last Piece:


Emo-Rena for teh WIN also does anyone actually read the rules... I mean c'mon they're there for a reason

Spoiler for Satoshi:

-MotokoAoyama- 2007-11-05 23:52

I liked the episode, but like Rias, I would rather that they give us a bit more detail about Rena and her encounter with Oyashiro-sama as well as Satoshi's murder.

Spoiler for at Shiosai regarding Satoshi:

MarthX 2007-11-05 23:56

Preview for 19 is up

http://www.animate.tv/special/higurasi_yokoku.php

Marbles 2007-11-06 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarthX (Post 1240948)

Thanks. :)

-MotokoAoyama- 2007-11-06 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarthX (Post 1240948)

Thanks a bunch for the preview notice! I loved it! Did I catch this right, or was "Houjou Teppei" asking a question in Dark Rika corner again? And Hanyuu ran away in the end! KAWAII!!!

Spoiler for preview:

Sterling01 2007-11-06 00:30

I can't wait to see the reactions of people if they follow the story of Matsuribayashi-hen with no changes

Spoiler for Matsuribayashi-hen:


and how the hell are they going to explain the reason for Akasaka being there if they don't use Piece #51

FlareKnight 2007-11-06 00:52

Alright episode 18 is here and the good fight is close at hand.
Spoiler for Ep 18 Thoughts:

Rias 2007-11-06 01:03

From the previews, it looks like they are going straight into story instead of touching up the last few pieces, which probably means they might just get Akasaka to show up "randomly" like in Minagoroshi-hen, instead of the whole event in kakera-musubi...(which, kinda defeats the purpose of "setting the gameboard up for the last time", but then again, they never used the dice/gameboard imagery in the anime, unlike in the game)

And Teppei has appeared in the Dark Rika corner too much...it's like his 3rd time now :heh:

Deathkillz 2007-11-06 01:23

wow...
Spoiler:

FlareKnight 2007-11-06 01:29

Spoiler:

Sterling01 2007-11-06 01:31

Why do people think Satoshi is dead? There is nothing in the episode to implicate that Takano did anything to Satoshi she was just making a comment to Irie

Kang Seung Jae 2007-11-06 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling01 (Post 1241093)
Why do people think Satoshi is dead? There is nothing in the episode to implicate that Takano did anything to Satoshi she was just making a comment to Irie

Exactly.

We're not sure until it's comfirmed.

Sterling01 2007-11-06 01:56

People tend to over think things

Klashikari 2007-11-06 05:09

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Originally Posted by Sterling01 (Post 1241093)
Why do people think Satoshi is dead? There is nothing in the episode to implicate that Takano did anything to Satoshi she was just making a comment to Irie

I think people would obviously think that Satoshi is dead, or transformed into a vegetable/guinea pig, considering how Takano was so insistent with Satoko, as she was already preparing the dissection procedure, despite Satoko was not "lost" in the L5, unlike Satoshi.

If you add the fact that Irie cannot argue against Takano's authority about the true research of the Irie institution, it is normal to speculate that Satoshi was taken as a sample, as he is nearly bypassing the point of no return.
The yamainu obviously covered Satoshi's "escape" (the false satoshi at the train station, for instance). So instead of using the same "excuse" for hozpitiliazing Satoko, they simply did another Onikakushi. 1 whole year, and Satoshi didn't appear yet, despite the C103

you can tell there are many indications that Satoshi isn't exactly in a good situation.

Indeed, no confirmation, but it is the most obvious thing you can imagine after seeing this.

FlareKnight 2007-11-06 09:09

Agree with Klashikari that things don't look good for Satoshi. If it was simply treating him then we would've heard something during the time we were looking at the series. Instead they made him 'vanish' and had his disapearance covered up. Either they attempted to treat him and the something went wrong or Takano got her way for another dissection.

Ire probably didn't have much choice on this one. He'd already shown the treatment could work so Takano could probably pull wanting to know more about the disease. Even if he wanted to help Satoshi there is a limit on his power in that situation.

Suppose its possible that he's alive, but doesn't look all that promising for him. Makes sense why they kept the bear from getting to Satoko when I think on it. Satoshi only had limited funds so if he bought the bear then he wouldn't have enough to escape. Wonder if they bought off the guy who sold it to keep quiet. Don't think it's a case of overthinking. Just looking at what we saw, Takano's desire for more information, and no sign of Satoshi during the series.

Not that I disliked the guy, but isn't much hope for him.

MezzoDragon 2007-11-06 09:37

The preview was funny. Rena now has a third target. And in the corner, Chibi Hanyuu is making weird and silly sounds before sliding away. Rika, however, seems to have a serious hangover. Too much drinking, I assume.

LustigerAstronaut 2007-11-06 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by -MotokoAoyama- (Post 1240954)
Thanks a bunch for the preview notice! I loved it! Did I catch this right, or was "Houjou Teppei" asking a question in Dark Rika corner again? And Hanyuu ran away in the end! KAWAII!!!

Frequent enquirer H. Teppei is wondering about the true nature of Hanyuu. He heard that she's probably an alien from the M37 star cluster, and if that were true, is it possible for her to shoot beam rays from her breast, arms or her forehead? No wonder she run from that question :)
(Now, I don't think that M37 has a high probability to harbor intelligent life, it's estimated age is only about 300 million years. But about those beams, that's where I hope to learn more.)

Shiroth 2007-11-06 12:57

Since the first series, i've always been quite amazed with Satoshi's character, so it was good to have more freedom with his character in this episode. At the moment i have no idea what's happened to him, though with how the first series was aiming at Satoshi's disappearance, i always thought it would have something to do with him leaving the village. Maybe it is that, i have no idea, though i do hope things regarding Satoshi will not be left like this, that's what i'm hoping.

Rika & Hanyuu scene dressed in white was rather unexpected, lovely scene.

Serenity85 2007-11-06 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiroth (Post 1241707)
Since the first series, i've always been quite amazed with Satoshi's character, so it was good to have more freedom with his character in this episode. At the moment i have no idea what's happened to him, though with how the first series was aiming at Satoshi's disappearance, i always thought it would have something to do with him leaving the village. Maybe it is that, i have no idea, though i do hope things regarding Satoshi will not be left like this, that's what i'm hoping.

Rika & Hanyuu scene dressed in white was rather unexpected, lovely scene.

Potential spolier, hint ... etc (all in the name of caution^^)

Spoiler for Satoshi:

Sterling01 2007-11-06 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiroth (Post 1241707)
Rika & Hanyuu scene dressed in white was rather unexpected, lovely scene.

That scene reminds me of the twins from the Shining

Shiroth 2007-11-06 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serenity85 (Post 1241713)
Potential spolier, hint ... etc (all in the name of caution^^)

I'll be staying away from that spoiler then. Thanks for the notification. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling01 (Post 1241715)
That scene reminds me of the twins from the Shining

Especially with the 'disappearing after' scene.

Mizuno 2007-11-06 17:24

lol, Keiichi's dad definitely got a lolicon fetish or something. Have you seen the camera shots directed at the girls' chests during their conversation?

MarthX 2007-11-06 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenta (Post 1242031)
lol, Keiichi's dad definitely got a lolicon fetish or something. Have you seen the camera shots directed at the girls' chests during their conversation?

Definitely.

Quote:

Rika: “…Mi-. There is a stranger who is looking at us while mumbling about difficult things.”
Hanyu: “Auauau. …Rika, that person is no stranger.”

Ichirou: “…huh? Whoa!! Oh, I…I’m so sorry!! No, no, I’m not a stranger. Wahahahaha…!”

Rika: “…Yet, his eyes are hooked to my breast and my legs. Nipa~☆”

Ichirou: “No, no, I wasn’t looking in there! Please don’t tell the station officer-!! I was using this mirror to fix my hair…!!”

Hanyu: “….Ahahahahaha. I don’t understand what you are talking about, but I’m sure it’s something very funny.”
Rika: “I guess father and son really are alike.”

BakaOnna 2007-11-06 17:50

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Originally Posted by MarthX (Post 1242055)
Definitely.
Quote:

Rika: “…Mi-. There is a stranger who is looking at us while mumbling about difficult things.”
Hanyu: “Auauau. …Rika, that person is no stranger.”

Ichirou: “…huh? Whoa!! Oh, I…I’m so sorry!! No, no, I’m not a stranger. Wahahahaha…!”

Rika: “…Yet, his eyes are hooked to my breast and my legs. Nipa~☆”

Ichirou: “No, no, I wasn’t looking in there! Please don’t tell the station officer-!! I was using this mirror to fix my hair…!!”

Hanyu: “….Ahahahahaha. I don’t understand what you are talking about, but I’m sure it’s something very funny.”
Rika: “I guess father and son really are alike.”

XD Does that mean Keiichi is also a lolicon. :heh:

kingsky123 2007-11-06 18:03

i think its more like 'perverted'

MezzoDragon 2007-11-06 18:14

If Ichirou wants to tape a bust, Rika is the last person he should point his camera at. Satoko is a better choice. She being an early bloomer.

FlareKnight 2007-11-06 18:18

Haha excellent. :D So that's how Keiichi ends up moving and their plan to secure his arrival in this world. Make use of his father's 'preferences' to lure the family there :heh:. That's Rika for you willing to do whatever it takes for victory.

After seeing some things in the series (like the Nekogoroshi-hen episode) wouldn't surprise me that being a lolicon runs in the family.


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