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Crimrui 2012-02-27 15:03

[PC] Kamidori Alchemy Meister
 
Hehe... as I can understand the game now, it's time to get Kamidori Alchemy Meister. :3

EDIT : To the wise guys who keep bitching about the lack of information about this game. I did not open this thread. I originally posted this comment above in the General Eroge Impressions & Discussion thread and the fallowing posts concerning this were all wrapped up together and made into a new thread. Blame the moderator, not me...

Hooves 2012-02-27 16:15

It seems Crimson Cloud knew before I was gonna post that Kamidori Alchemy Meister's full patch just got released :heh:

Crimrui 2012-02-27 16:41

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Originally Posted by Hooves (Post 4028963)
It seems Crimson Cloud knew before I was gonna post that Kamidori Alchemy Meister's full patch just got released :heh:

At least for once, I am able to learn something on my own without you having to babysit me regarding the news. :heh:

Dhomochevsky 2012-02-28 06:26

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Originally Posted by Crimson Cloud (Post 4028859)
Hehe... as I can understand the game now, it's time to get Kamidori Alchemy Meister. :3

Alright, starting it too!
I'm still at the intro part, but this seems to be an rpg with many characters.
Just hoping the game will not crash somewhere. I haven't figured out how to save yet. :heh:

johnishida 2012-02-28 06:48

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4029929)
Alright, starting it too!
I'm still at the intro part, but this seems to be an rpg with many characters.
Just hoping the game will not crash somewhere. I haven't figured out how to save yet. :heh:

I played it last year and spent over 600hrs of gametime. Yes, it's quite addictive. Great to see it translated.

There are quite a number of characters to recruit in that game. Some you get eventually but others you need to complete certain quests so be careful not to let any quest uncompleted before you advance to the next chapter.

To save just right click, a new screen should appear and the save/load button should be there.

NoemiChan 2012-02-28 07:13

Kamidori Alchemy Meister is categorized as +18. Thank God it's not that heavy for storage , trying it tomorrow.

Dhomochevsky 2012-02-28 07:13

As usual I'm playing on hard mode.
And damn, the first dungeon was already tricky. :heh:

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Crimrui 2012-02-28 20:17

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4029977)
As usual I'm playing on hard mode.
And damn, the first dungeon was already tricky. :heh:

Haha, indeed. Man, I'm in love with this game. It's kinda refreshing to play something other then the usual VN stuff. I'm loving the characters and the atmosphere in the game is really awesome. ^^

NoemiChan 2012-02-28 20:25

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Originally Posted by Crimson Cloud (Post 4030945)
Haha, indeed. Man, I'm in love with this game. It's kinda refreshing to play something other then the usual VN stuff. I'm loving the characters and the atmosphere in the game is really awesome. ^^


Yeah. This is now one of my most recommended eroge RPG games together with Sengoku Rance!

Crimrui 2012-02-29 04:59

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan (Post 4030952)
Yeah. This is now one of my most recommended eroge RPG games together with Sengoku Rance!

I'll be pretty much recommending Kamidori too, although Rance for me is... ugh, there just can't be a time when those series aren't mentioned somewhere. :heh: No offence to the fans of course.

That reminds me, I'm glad that Wil is a normal guy here, I was afraid he would be some pervert who couldn't wait to jump on females but he is pretty down-to earth. When he sees a new female he gives a pretty normal description of her look.

Dhomochevsky 2012-02-29 10:25

Kamidori:
If I forge a different set of clothing for someone, will the enhancements get carried over?
I am still lacking items to actually make something like that, but if it means I lose all enhancements, maybe I should not spend too much there yet?

johnishida 2012-02-29 10:54

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4032045)
Kamidori:
If I forge a different set of clothing for someone, will the enhancements get carried over?
I am still lacking items to actually make something like that, but if it means I lose all enhancements, maybe I should not spend too much there yet?

No, enhancements are unique to every armor. That means you have to enhance every new set from zero. I would suggest you save any money and items for Yuera's Fire or Holy armor; Emiritta's Versatile / Holy; Seravy's Dark / Versatile.

Here a good tip to make the enhancements cheaper thus easier to get. Always complete a line first and try to do it continuously. I mean, after advancing one square, continue with the one right next to the last. If you jump from 1 square to another in a different line it will cost you a lot more gold and items. You can tell which was the last enhancement you bought since it will be highlighted.

Edit: Remember all stats bonuses are unique for the armor and are only effective when you wear said armor. Skills are the exception and they can be used anytime once you buy them.

Flying Dagger 2012-03-02 07:21

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4032045)
Kamidori:
If I forge a different set of clothing for someone, will the enhancements get carried over?
I am still lacking items to actually make something like that, but if it means I lose all enhancements, maybe I should not spend too much there yet?

Playing on hard mode.
Almost done Act4 and I still do not have enough money to really upgrade my armor: I just do not get enough stuff in dungeons to sell. I guess I should just stick everyone together to limit my potion usage. Aht (the golem) is a good tank but is so slow to use... Mana is also an issue during fights...

Melodianna took over Yuela as the vangaurd of my forces because of her higher mitigation. She does pretty good melee and also comes with spells vs those annoying ghosts (weak vs holy but almost immune to physicals). Too bad it seem there is only 3 routes in game - I want the whole city to be jealous of me going out with an angel :D.

Finding a new love in Suina with her 3 ranged water spell that does pretty good damage. Atm I prefer her over Emelita (whom often I leave behind as shopkeep).


Have a bit of trouble leveling Serawi as she is pretty much a dedicated healer. I try to let her finish off mobs if given the chance (esp bosses) so she doesn't fall too far behind. Aht "was" hard to lvl until I start hunting rym dragons where I can just let him tank and gain a ton of xp every round of combat.

The RNG leveling is a pain: a good level up can increase 5-6 stats (getting str+con or int+res would be the icing on the cake). A bad lvl might only increase FS by 1: which is quite useless.

Dhomochevsky 2012-03-02 08:14

I'm still in act 3, because I drag it out a bit with leveling. ;)
Some things:
- you can sell "treasures" in the church, but not in your store. Took me a while to notice my huge pile of treasures (gold bars, gold dust such things). But they give a lot of money. After that I had no problem buying some upgrades. I buy the early cheap ones for each armor I get, to unlock skills.
- It's easy to level up your casters (Serawi too) by one shotting ghosts in the undead forest. Visited that one quite often. That way I managed to keep them at the general group level
- I use the deployement points a lot. Deploy, cast, retreat. And switch a lot between characters during a fight. I hardly ever use potions now.

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I would suggest you save any money and items for Yuera's Fire or Holy armor; Emiritta's Versatile / Holy; Seravy's Dark / Versatile.
Is 'Versatile' the multi-element armor? I got one for Emiritta (Sage Armor). So invest in that one?

johnishida 2012-03-02 09:53

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4034984)
Is 'Versatile' the multi-element armor? I got one for Emiritta (Sage Armor). So invest in that one?

Yes, that's the armor. That one has some good skills, IIRC, and the multi-element resistance is a nice plus. Not that it matters but, design wise is also one of my favorites :p

Flying Dagger 2012-03-02 12:13

Spoiler for kamidori ch4:

Dhomochevsky 2012-03-02 14:24

I like how no male character has a voice, but every female has one, without exeption.
Random girl you meet on the street and has 1 line total has a VA. :D

Question:
If I manage to get 'bronze key' somehow, will it open all doors that require bronze key, or are there mutiple versions of that key?

johnishida 2012-03-02 14:36

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4035493)
Question:
If I manage to get 'bronze key' somehow, will it open all doors that require bronze key, or are there mutiple versions of that key?

You can only make one key of each type and they will open all of their respective doors. No use limit.

Dhomochevsky 2012-03-02 14:54

Wait... I have to make them? I was thinking maybe the dragons have the key.
How do I get the recipt?

I mean the first bronze key door I encountered was in chapter 1. I should by now somehow have stumbled upon a recipt.

Flying Dagger 2012-03-02 16:44

I got my bronze key receipt when my (knowledge?) is high enough for it to appear under alchemy. Now I just need my silver key...

Note that the rym dragon can drop either fang or claw. Might want to save before killing it.
Spoiler for rym dragon hack:


I also discovered that demonic gear can be unequipped by hannah at the church if the decurse option is chosen.

I am trying to find a place for Aht in my party: but she is just toooo slow and Wil+Melodianna (my fav atm) already tank well enough.

Sharty is hit or miss. Super cat punch costs all her mana but can possibly do a lot of damage. Atm mine is only lv16 stuck selling things at the shop. She has good resist modifiers but mine has very low res stat which makes her too fragile to use.

Suina with a bowling ball (act2 quest iirc that ate all my wood supply)/Earth Crystal is a surprise gem. She is able to dominate water map as she can dive, gets Depth Charge, gets powered up in water, and the earth crystal allows her to use earth magic vs other water-based creatures (water weak vs earth).

Uya is used similar to Suina on lava maps: but for the most part I use him as a treasure hunter because of his mobility.

Xacual 2012-03-02 18:03

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Originally Posted by Flying Dagger (Post 4035663)
I also discovered that demonic gear can be unequipped by hannah at the church if the decurse option is chosen.

I am trying to find a place for Aht in my party: but she is just toooo slow and Wil+Melodianna (my fav atm) already tank well enough.

Sharty is hit or miss. Super cat punch costs all her mana but can possibly do a lot of damage. Atm mine is only lv16 stuck selling things at the shop. She has good resist modifiers but mine has very low res stat which makes her too fragile to use.

Suina with a bowling ball (act2 quest iirc that ate all my wood supply)/Earth Crystal is a surprise gem. She is able to dominate water map as she can dive, gets Depth Charge, gets powered up in water, and the earth crystal allows her to use earth magic vs other water-based creatures (water weak vs earth).

Uya is used similar to Suina on lava maps: but for the most part I use him as a treasure hunter because of his mobility.

I tend to use Aht more for cover than anything else. Stick him next to Uya because of Uya's ridiculous evade and almost nothing can hit Uya. Stack up Wil's battle orders and his chance to be hit goes to something like 15%, before counting cover too.

Sharty saved me a few times with her Ultra Cat Punch gamble since it can do a huge amount of damage if the rng favors you, even if she can't normally hit the monster. Most part though i just leave her in charge of the store though, she makes me about 500-1000 a day now so she's fine there.

I've mostly found the best place for leveling is in the arena elemental fights. I got Uya and Suina up to about 28-30 during chapter 4-5 because of that. I stopped taking them to missions because they were 10 levels above some of the other group members.

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4035543)
Wait... I have to make them? I was thinking maybe the dragons have the key.
How do I get the recipt?

I mean the first bronze key door I encountered was in chapter 1. I should by now somehow have stumbled upon a recipt.

I'm pretty sure i got it from ranking up from chapter 3 to 4, either that or leveling up my synthesis I forget. I tend to make a ton of random items since every synthesis counts the same as far as xp goes.

Ray 2012-03-02 20:25

I'm trying to decide between Yeula and Sewari. I usually dislike blondes, but Sewari has grown on me. I've seen her route dubbed as 'Nothing Happens: The Route', and that keeps me from doing her route. On the flipside, I've heard that there's also something wrong (for the lack of a better word) with Yeula's route. I'll probably end up opting for her route, but I'd greatly appreciate if someone who's done her route would be as kind as to inform me if there's anything distasteful about her story (by distasteful I mean anything that people dislike about it).

Should I forget about enhancing items until I get a suit worthy of enhancement? Also, the stones that increase stats; is there any point in stocking them up or would I better off to use them as I get 'em?

Suina is so adorable ~

betazor 2012-03-03 06:02

any 1 know the effect of lvling in deadbeat dungeon ???.....

Flying Dagger 2012-03-03 07:07

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Originally Posted by Aphrah (Post 4035900)
Should I forget about enhancing items until I get a suit worthy of enhancement? Also, the stones that increase stats; is there any point in stocking them up or would I better off to use them as I get 'em?

Suina is so adorable ~

I just use the stones ASAP on Wil. Because of the RNG nature of level ups HP/SP really doesn't matter too much.

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Originally Posted by betazor (Post 4036430)
any 1 know the effect of lvling in deadbeat dungeon ???.....

Beside the shame of using it, no. I read that there is a boss at the very end of the set which removes the deadbeat status. There are also some overpowered items - not too sure as I have not find the need to use the dungeon at all (doing all the quests and getting 100% completion is sufficient atm).

betazor 2012-03-03 08:19

any recommended place for lvling other then deadbeat ? because its very hard to lvling..., right now my lvl of char is 15 and still chapter 1.....

Flying Dagger 2012-03-03 09:30

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Originally Posted by betazor (Post 4036530)
any recommended place for lvling other then deadbeat ? because its very hard to lvling..., right now my lvl of char is 15 and still chapter 1.....

You are probably way overleveled. End of Act 5 and my guys are only lv26, some lesser used ones are @ 22. While all enemies seem to scale in power, experience is based off the base enemy level (so a base lv 5 creature, scaled to lv15, would still not yield much xp when killed).


Spoiler for melodianna's quest:

Crimrui 2012-03-03 11:42

Does completing all of quests influence the ending or something? I'm thinking in playing New Game+ but if I can't get my gorgeous elf ending then I shouldn't try so hard now. ^^'

Dhomochevsky 2012-03-03 13:08

If I have two skills of the same kind, for example Flurry I and Flurry II, when I choose both, the lower one is kind of grayed out.
What does that mean?

Oh and where can I get Feathers?
I think I got my first recipt with Feathers at chapter 1 and have not seen a single feather yet. ;)

johnishida 2012-03-03 14:17

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4036825)
If I have two skills of the same kind, for example Flurry I and Flurry II, when I choose both, the lower one is kind of grayed out.
What does that mean?

Oh and where can I get Feathers?
I think I got my first recipt with Feathers at chapter 1 and have not seen a single feather yet. ;)

You can only use one skill of the same type. Flurry I and II are the same skill but the level is different (notice the I and II) which is why you can't equip both at the same time.

If you mean the Eushully Maid Feathers you can only get those from special event cards that appear on some maps. Just progress with your game and should not have problem finding them.

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Does completing all of quests influence the ending or something? I'm thinking in playing New Game+ but if I can't get my gorgeous elf ending then I shouldn't try so hard now. ^^'
No, side-quest don't affect the heroines ending. However, they do affect the scenes for the secondary characters. Certain units, skills, weapons, materials, recipes etc. can only be obtained by completing certain side-quests. I suggest you try to complete them all. IIRC, access to the ex-dungeons is affected by both the side-quests and the number of members in your party.

Flying Dagger 2012-03-03 14:21

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 4036825)
If I have two skills of the same kind, for example Flurry I and Flurry II, when I choose both, the lower one is kind of grayed out.
What does that mean?

Oh and where can I get Feathers?
I think I got my first recipt with Feathers at chapter 1 and have not seen a single feather yet. ;)

I think it means they do not stack. The same happens if you equip a character skill that is already granted by a weapon.

Feathers I got off of hychuei @ the lake to the north east.

@ch6 atm and a lot of my money issues have been "solved" with the +1 drop rate bracers. Upgrading rooms and such still drains all my money away. Dungeons getting difficult again as Serawi's heal spell gets somewhat outscaled. Good thing I bought the seeds for the health potion plant.

Dhomochevsky 2012-03-03 14:40

I bought a hot spring, of course.
Natural ero gamer choice. ;)

endarion88 2012-03-03 16:01

anyone know how many endings there are for every girl?

doujin 2012-03-03 16:14

treasure slime
 
hey anyone know how to make the treasure slime to appear i read somewhere that i have to reload the map. so does that mean i have to make a save file when in dungeon or outside to load??

Xacual 2012-03-03 22:24

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Originally Posted by doujin (Post 4037010)
hey anyone know how to make the treasure slime to appear i read somewhere that i have to reload the map. so does that mean i have to make a save file when in dungeon or outside to load??

If you mean at Amurent forest, just save at the world map and reload if it's not there when you start the map.

doujin 2012-03-03 22:36

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Originally Posted by Xacual (Post 4037307)
If you mean at Amurent forest, just save at the world map and reload if it's not there when you start the map.

how rare is it i been reload like 20 time and nothing look like it apear

Xacual 2012-03-03 22:41

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Originally Posted by doujin (Post 4037315)
how rare is it i been reload like 20 time and nothing look like it apear

I can only speak for myself but it took about 8 reloads.

betazor 2012-03-03 23:49

any one know how to enter yuela story ?, iam at chapter 4 (taking flight ), and still not close to yuela ( i notice that every character u close to the name of the chapter will be different) any one can help me >.<

doujin 2012-03-04 00:24

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Originally Posted by Xacual (Post 4037319)
I can only speak for myself but it took about 8 reloads.

sighh... idk why Aroduc from seiha translation said its at Runic Forest Free Map that it appear im confuse now

Xacual 2012-03-04 01:42

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Originally Posted by doujin (Post 4037409)
sighh... idk why Aroduc from seiha translation said its at Runic Forest Free Map that it appear im confuse now

Runic Forest? It's Amurent Forestlands, and then I forget the name but the free zone. Just a warning but make sure you have pierce or can get a lot of units to hit it fast because the thing has 99 Con and 99 Res and it has a habit of escaping the battle after the first turn.

Key Board 2012-03-04 01:53

Why are you grinding for treasure slimes


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