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Random32 2011-10-27 07:08

E-PARASITES Act, Even worse than PROTECT IP
 
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-america.shtml

So yeah. Great Firewall of the USA, First Amendment thrown out the window for the interests of the Copyright MAFIAA and anyone. It seems like Google is going to have to pull out of the United States at this rate.

HasuMasu 2011-10-27 07:40

That's uhm...wow, I have nothing to say.

SaintessHeart 2011-10-27 07:51

It is still a bill from what I have read, not yet passed as a law.

HasuMasu 2011-10-27 08:01

Maybe so, but the mere fact that it exists cannot be contained by a simple face-palm.

Fahd 2011-10-27 10:57

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Originally Posted by Random32 (Post 3827271)
So yeah. Great Firewall of the USA

Ehh, if the bill should get passed I suspect that people will (in the words of synaesthetic): lrn2proxy. Or maybe just tor with an exit node somewhere outside the US. A certain usenet indexing site has already released a tool (which has an in-built tor client) to circumvent a court-ordered block.

I think the two biggest problems with this bill are firstly that the Attorney General gets to decide what site is or isn't "inducing" infringement. Only a court should have that kind of power, not a person under the influence of politicians, who themselves are under the influence of corporations. Secondly, site blocking makes it more troublesome for users (most people will not bother with lrn2proxy), which means that this will have a chilling effect on ideas for sites which the creative industry do not like. I'd imagine it would've been less appealing for youtube to have existed if such an environment was present when it was founded. Fewer site visitors = less advertising revenue.

Rising Dragon 2011-10-27 11:03

*facepalms* I don't want to live in this country anymore...

Sugetsu 2011-10-27 12:05

Yet another method of suppresion designed by our corporate controlled goverment...

Hooves 2011-10-27 13:39

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon (Post 3827589)
*facepalms* I don't want to live in this country anymore...

I feel like moving to Canada for some reason.. It's not far, and it's atleast somewhat better from my point of view :heh: But the bill is still not passed so there's a good chance that it will never be taken into effect.. But as Detective-san puts it

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Maybe so, but the mere fact that it exists cannot e contained by a simple face-palm.

Haak 2011-10-27 16:06

Wow, so they're seriously going to go down the China route, huh? I just hope our government don't catch onto this...

Archon_Wing 2011-10-27 16:11

Man.... I feel like this.

leon4281isback 2011-10-27 18:38

Whoops just made an error, I made a thread out of this..sorry anyway i'm just helping to spread the word...

flying ^ 2011-10-27 18:48

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Originally Posted by Fahd (Post 3827581)
Ehh, if the bill should get passed I suspect that people will (in the words of synaesthetic): lrn2proxy. Or maybe just tor with an exit node somewhere outside the US. A certain usenet indexing site has already released a tool (which has an in-built tor client) to circumvent a court-ordered block.

... so I have to go that route just to get my anime fix? Forget that... might as well be a criminal.
no way i wanna be associated with the majority of traffic seen in tor & proxys (as featured below)
http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underg...rug-imaginable
http://gawker.com/5851459/vigilante-...nd-kiddie-porn
... so you anime piraters ready and willing to share space with these creeps?

Fahd 2011-10-27 20:17

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Originally Posted by flying ^ (Post 3828185)
... so you anime piraters ready and willing to share space with these creeps?

Using a network used by unsavoury people does not automatically make you a paedophile, just as having the first name 'Adolf' doesn't necessarily make you a fascist (1). There are plenty of uses for tor other than drug trafficking, paedophilia, and copyright infringement. I was simply presenting the point that without a country having its own internal Internet (i.e. what North Korea has) stamping out copyright infringement by way of website blocking is not a long-term solution, as ISP blocks can be circumvented.


(1) Someone was going to Godwin this thread at some point, so I figured I'd be the first to do it :p.

leon4281isback 2011-10-27 21:04

...Um yeah this is still serious, even people are going to do and say something about it or USA starts being hypocritical all the way and does what China did.....I am. Everyone else is

Solace 2011-10-27 21:48

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Originally Posted by leon4281isback (Post 3828368)
USA starts being hypocritical

Oh man, I laughed. :heh:

HasuMasu 2011-10-28 05:39

Where's the hacktivist version of Celestial Being when you need it? :heh:

Ithekro 2011-10-28 11:40

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Where's the hacktivist version of Celestial Being when you need it? :heh:
They are attacking Fox News last I heard.

TheScarletSword 2011-10-28 13:48

...I'm hardly even surprised at this kind of stuff anymore. It just happens so much to the point where I expect it.

..I don't think this will be passed at all, though.

leon4281isback 2011-10-28 17:14

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Originally Posted by TheScarletSword (Post 3829478)
...I'm hardly even surprised at this kind of stuff anymore. It just happens so much to the point where I expect it.

..I don't think this will be passed at all, though.

Even if you just think it, at least tell people you know about this bill so they can spread it to others, and those others will do the same. The internet was always sought after since it appeared so it is truly no surprise. Still it doesn't hurt to have people be aware of what's going to happen when they wake up to see it one day. The day that can be avoided...

Mr Hat and Clogs 2011-10-28 19:56

Wow, deja vu.

<-- Australian.


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If you don't put a lot of really ridiculous stuff in there then there isn't anything to pretend to "compromise" on and still get exactly what you want. It's a common negotiation tactic amongst politicians and allowance-seeking teenagers alike.
That too?

Wouldn't the way this thing is worded mean that VPN and TOR are illegal? Since you can use them to circumvent all of this.


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