Edge of Tomorrow (2014)- Tom Cruise
 

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So the Japanese Science fiction novel All You Need is Kill is getting an American made adaption. And Tom Cruise is in the lead, playing as a soldier caught in a ground hog day time loop in war against alien invaders, forced to refight a battle thousands of times over.


I really feel very ambivalent about Cruise getting picked for this role. While there's the obvious race shift of the lead actor, the characters nationality in the original book wasn't the major focus. What DOES weird me out is the protagonist being shifted from a late teens to early twenties rookie infantry soldier...to a 50 year old officer whose somehow never been in combat despite humanity fighting a world war against alien invaders for a decade.

At it's core, the original novel was a coming of age story. So I'm not sure how this translates to someone as old as Cruise in the lead. I'm really starting to feel uncomfortable with how old Hollywood actors are getting, where even roles like this are getting picked for older actors. Is that really fair for all the hopeful new actors who can't get leading roles in films? Has 50 become the new 16 in terms of finding yourself?

Considering where Cruise is in his life now (broken up yet again and constantly ridiculed for a variety of reasons...sounds like my teen years :)), why not?

Truthfully, Cruise does action well, so I am not too worried about his age (even if the still photo is a little weird). I do hate the title though. It may have been okay overseas, but the title is ludicrous for American audiences.

I'm even more surprised that American cinema would pick up an LN...

welcome to Hollywood. i'll just leave it at that.

Are we seeing another white-wash here? Heck they even changed the age from teenagers to above-fifty! Pheww...I’m just glad I’m not a fan of this novel. Is this how they'll made Akira and Bleach?

That suit looks like a smaller version of Ripley’s Loader when she fought Alien Queen.

Btw, is the title grammatically correct? Somehow, it reminds me of “Break Blade”. At least in Break Blade’s case, they fixed the title into Broken Blade in the OVA.

Yes. That's the original title

Because I'm not interested in Tom Cruise's midlife crisis?

More to the point. It seems goofy as hell that the hardened veteran who takes the main character under his wing is also another middle aged guy. And that the female veteran lead that the main character idolizes is 20 years younger than cruise.

What is a mid life crisis but a coming of age for a supposed adult? :p.

Honestly, based on the description Cruises character was a desk-jockey forced into war by a demotion and the rest of the film is about how an older man learns how to survive fighting impossible odds. It's a different take on the original story for sure, but it has its merits and there is potential there. Additionally, Doug Liman is a strong action director, Dion Beebe is a good choreographer, and Joby Harold is a decent writer.

at least they didn't pcik justin bieber

If Tom Cruise's character has been hiding behind a desk while the rest of humanity has been fighting to the death against remorseless alien invaders, I'm probably going to laugh when he does something stupid that gets him demoted and sent to the cannon fodder battalion. :p


I don't know. Maybe this is a bit American Centric of me, but it rubs me the wrong way because the United States IS starting to come out of over a decade of combat operations in two countries. You'd think that a story that focused on the experience of a young soldier becoming hardened and traumatized by seemingly endless combat deployments would be something that would resonate with people today. There were ALLOT more teenagers who saw the elephant for the first time than people Cruises age. Camerons Avatar was a much stronger movie, in my opinion, because it's lead was a young military veteran who'd been damaged by war. The situation in this movie just seems a tad artificial to me.

It really just seems like Hollywood is being really timid about their big investment movie projects.

It seems that casting Justin Bieber and making a movie like Twilight has become the new lowest standard :heh:.

Come on, give the Bieber kid some slack will ya? He's really talented and his and his mother's life before the Youtube hype is far from perfect. If anything, I think Bieber and his mother earned whet they get (unlike Twilight movies).

Now that's a fair point. A younger actor would have helped to create a more on-message picture.

some people have made a very interesting connection based on the early promotion photo.

http://i.imgur.com/7tSgM.jpg

Could be worse. It could have been Will Ferrell. That guy is in everything!

Endless "Prolific" Soul

As someone who actually enjoys Cruise's movies, as bad form as that seems to be with today's "it" crowd :heh:, I certainly don't see his casting as a negative. At the very least, it probably means this adaptation will have big money, and not be woefully underfunded.

I'd watch it!

High resolution screenshot.

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I gotta say. This doesn't come off as all that impressive. I suppose they might be trying to emulate the look of more realistic exoskeletons that have been in development...but I think they missed out on the part that most combat exoskeletons aren't remotely ready for direct front line combat yet.


How's he supposed to reload anyway? That weapon on the left is clearly magazine fed.

The weapon on the left looks like a cut down SCAR 17 with associated FN grenade launcher. But most scifi weapons are normally props made from real guns since they need the firing mechanisms anyway. I still want a Pulse Rifle and Smartgun (with steady cam system) in my collection...

Well the trailer of the movie is finally out.
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Production values don't seem to bad, but I'm still not exactly that fond of the suits. The heavy exoskeleton with the pilot (and various wiring and servos) exposed like that just seems weird to me.

Even if you can't armor against direct hits, you're putting allot of resources into these mech suit troopers, and they seem just as susceptible to random shrapnel as regular foot soldiers in flak-jackets...though at the end of the day I think it bothers me more in that I just don't like that kinda aesthetic. Proper armor (and helmets) just seem more fitting this kinda setup.


I guess they wanted to show off Tom Cruise more :p

So it's basically Groundhog day meets Starship Troopers.

Pretty much, though it's more consistent with the aesthetic of Starship Troopers most people imagine than the actual Starship Troopers movies we currently have.

Also, don't we need to have the thread title changed to "Edge of Tomorrow" as per the movie's now current title?

A slightly better look at the exoskeleton:

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Doesn't look like the hand guards can be used as brass knuckles (which, I believe, is possible with either the real-life HULC or Sarcos prototype suits). OTOH, I could easily see the system being used to make the M2HB or M134 Minigun man-portable. Well, at the very least, it looks more intimidating than what Matt Damon was wearing in Elysium.

Tried changing the title in the edit function, but it only seemed to effect the title within the thread, so not sure what to do about that.
Well at least the Elysium skeleton had some kinda of energy shield protection, didn't it?

Though not entirely sure I find the suits all that intimidating honestly. It's bulky, but the exposed unarmored operators just makes me think of all the airburst fragmentation rounds turning everyone of these guys in a 100 meter radius into casualties.

...also, does the physical performance of the suits seem a bit inconsistent in the trailer? A few scenes with individually have the suits zippineem to have trouble managing a slow awkward waddle forward.g around and smashing cars and watnot...then in the beachhead scene the suits s

Try PM or VM a mod of your choice or simply click the 'report' button on your own opening post and ask for the title of the thread to be changed.

As for the movie itself, I bet some Hollywood critics will accuse this of ripping off Groundhog Days, Starship Troopers & Elysium at the same time :heh:.

Look at that strong female lead, I can't wait to hear how the movie is still sexist in some delusional way. Lol

For those who haven't heard, Obata Takechi, the mangaka of Death Note and Bakuman fame, has just published the first chapter of the novel's manga adaptation in the Shuukan Young Jump magazine. The scenario adaptation will be left to Takeuchi Ryosuke, who recently did St&rs, another sci-fi series.


It's interesting to note that the exoskeletons are more Halo-ish than the movie's HULC-ish vision. And...in the first chapter, the MC

Also different than the more light walking carapace tank that I'd imagined from the light novel. Downplays the kind of heavy weapons the suits had (like shoulder mounted recoilless/rocket and autocannon machine-guns). It still doesn't look too bad, though I think Rita is a bit more pink than crimson here. Though since it's B&W, that won't come up most of the time.


...I do kinda hate how American mechanical cartoon art makes me feel a bit weeaboo at times though. :heh:


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This does not satisfy any of my machine porn needs. :(

The exoskeleton is still quite bulky, as those two pages suggest:

But the exos still carry normal weapons like Type 88-like LMGs and such... Though the cover does show that oversized weapons like that big-ass axe are also available for...more specialized? units.

Oh, and Rita has already made her appearance in the first chapter.

For safety's sake, I suggest we keep future posts about the manga adaptation to the thread I've just created in the manga board.

I guess this movie just used same plot as novel but different characters and place
(For example look at muv-luv alt)

At-least they didn't shy from that and give us DRAGON BALL MOVIE 2.0

by they way, anyone know if the novel have sequel?

　　　　　　Original　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Movie

Title: All you need is kill 　　　　　　　　　　　　　Edge of tomorrow

Hero:　　Kiriya Keiji(Killer cage)　　　　　　　　　　　Bill Cage(Tom cruise )
　　　　　Japanese　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　American　
　　　　　Age18　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Age51
　　　　　Recruit　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Lieutenant Colonel(relegated to the front)

Heroine: Rita Vrataski(Bitch of the Battlefield)　　　　Rita Vrataski(Emily Blunt)
　　　　　 American　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　American
　　　　　Redhead　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Blond
　　　　　Age19(misrepresentation of age 20s) 　　　Age30
　　　　　Warrant Officer 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　?????

Superior:Bartolome Farrell　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Farrell Bartolome
　　　　　Naturalized Japanese(Japanese Brazilian)　American
　　　　　Sergeant　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　General

Main Wepon:Huge Battle Axe　　　　　　　　　　　　 Bastard Sword

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I'm sorta morbidly interested in how they're going to get Tom Cruise as a Lieutenant Colonel whose never been within 50 miles of the frontline dumped into a penal battalion as a foot slogging grunt. I can only imagine something a tad melodramatic used as the setup for this.

I know of at least one Lt. Colonel who never managed to get to a combat zone, despite serving during Gulf 1 and 2.

Anyway I'm cautiously anticipatory. Who knows, it might actually be quite good. I had my doubts on Pacific Rim, and wasn't expecting anything great from it, but I was converted. Maybe this movie will do something similar. :p

Well that's pretty easy when you realize that the majority of an army needs to be logistics.

Though USUALLY you don't see rear line Lt. Colonels getting booted into the infantry.

Right, but

The human race wasn't facing the brink of extinction, with majority of Earth destroyed and conquered by alien monsters during the Gulf War.

The desperation level is thousandfold, it makes it less believable that someone serving in the military for decades not seeing the combat against these aliens.

The desperation level hasn't even hit Terminator future levels looking at the trailer :3

I don't know how the story goes for the book, but the trailer nor the description says how long they've been fighting the aliens.

Well to be faiiiiir, you still do need officers to be in charge of rear line logistics. So it's not like it's impossible to have guys who wouldn't have officers who wouldn't be engaged in combat.

10:1

That's the ratio of support services personnel to combat personnel in the Australian Army.

And support service corps have more officers than other corps because of the heavy administrative and logistics burdens.

I imagine most other armies around the world have similar ratios.

Yeah. Allot of people don't really realize how logistically intensive modern warfare is...especially when you're trying to launch offensive operations as shown in these trailers. Who do you suppose keeps all those air planes, vehicles, ships and troops supplied with supplies and fuel?


It gets even crazier when you realize that the logistical tail end you're sending to support your army ALSO has a logistical tail end (trucks and supply planes and ships need fuel to you know)

Tom Kratman. He was an Infantry officer, and was IIRC a Captain or a Major during Gulf 1, missed that for something, and then as an LTC missed Gulf 2 and wound up and Command & Staff college. (Admittedly he missed Gulf 2 due to a heart attack.)

Also, speaking with a guy I know on Spacebattles who's up for LTC, as a general rule, about 40% of all LTCs in the US Army will hold a battalion command, but that includes the logistics guys and what's termed as Combat Service & Support. If you go pure infantry, 70-80% of all Infantry Lt. Colonels will cycle through a battalion command tour.

From the looks of it, this guy was a REMF, in a posting far away from combat. Such things are possible (especially if his track wasn't as a line officer, like an Intel or Public Affairs billet).

I'm reminded of what Eisenhower said were the three things that won World War 2: The Deuce-and-half truck, the C-47, and the jeep.

...I should probably rephrase "booted into the infantry" to "booted into being an exo-suit infantry rifleman". :p


Which again brings up the question of how he went from being a REMF POG officer to being dropped into the first wave with infantry.


I'm guessing they'll have Cruise be some smug asshole who gets himself into trouble, or they'll play him more virtuously and some convoluted situation will occur that will require him to stand up for all that is right and all that lame stuff, and as punishment, get assigned to be a grunt.