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pingva

2012-03-26 06:45

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Originally Posted by LastOrder (Post 4073678)

Alright, now about the book of Genesis.

I see it in the OP all the time, and I'm pretty sure I've heard Fudo mention it.

The only legend mentioned in the book of Genesis is that of Apollonius and Celianne.

Was Apollo's and Sylvia's history written down there too?

The books of Genesis is about Apollonius and Celianne written by their daughter Alicia.

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Originally Posted by Thess (Post 4072851)

Shushu is Sylvia. Discuss.

Proof:

Woman (who might be 'Sylvia' design) has the same 'ears'.
Kagura might be smelling her.
Mikono's weird connection powers pick up things from her.
She's tsundere. Like Sylvia.

I suspect it too. So far Shushu is the most calmest creature near Kagura.

Vena	2012-03-26 07:35

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Originally Posted by Thess (Post 4073659)

Spoiler for Stuff:

Spoiler for Hum:

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Originally Posted by mayumi (Post 4073892)

Kagura's element described by zen was something like darkness that swallows light if you reverse that it is light born from darkness basically the light of genesis, the big bang. Power of apollonius/apollo. Now if kagura can apply the reverse power on himself then he would be apollo.

Both Kagura and Mikono's descriptions from Fudo (the latter being donut inspired) are about emptiness in some sense or another.

theflyingturkey

2012-03-26 08:16

Am I the only one with that peculiar gut feeling that Mikono's going to fly off with Kagura to repopulate Altair?

Since we almost have actual confirmation that Kagura is Apollo, it wouldn't seem like a long for Kagura to perform a Heel Face Turn (swap sides) at the last few episode to activate Solar Aquarion and give Mykage a sound beating.

Kawamouri's love triangles tend to be pretty balanced, so it feels pretty damn weird for things to go this smoothly for our supposed 'main couple'.

That and I'm shipping for Zessica... The show's making me sympathize with her allot

AHEM.

mayumi

2012-03-26 08:32

@Vena

i think this goes back to the 3 arrows episode in first series where silvia was the thread but the three vectors flew out of the center but now it looks like mikono is still the thread connecting the 3 vectors however the 3 vectors are being dragged toward the center instead of away maybe because of kagura's reverse element. like say amata will always fly to mikono and zessica would also follow amata, the third element might be caynenne.

that would mean destruction again but not in big bang sense but universe collapsing by everything being dragged back to nothingness.

Vena	2012-03-26 08:42

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Originally Posted by mayumi (Post 4074106)

@Vena

i think this goes back to the 3 arrows episode in first series where silvia was the thread but the three vectors flew out of the center but now it looks like mikono is still the thread connecting the 3 vectors however the 3 vectors are being dragged toward the center instead of away maybe because of kagura's reverse element.
that would mean destruction again but not in big bang sense but universe collapsing by everything being dragged back to nothingness.

I agree with you, I am simply saying that the two have a large overlap even in Fudo's description. Mikono is the empty hole from which boundless possibilities can come, and Kagura is the force that can return the boundless possibilities to the empty hole. Fairly similar to the powers of Sousei and/or the symbolism of the relationship between Celianne/Apollonius: the possibility to repair a dying universe or to return it to nothing.

mayumi

2012-03-26 08:51

its understandable why zen does not kagura-mikono reunion or their dark hole wedding :heh: which takes place in graveyard where everyone is already dead. this makes we wonder what zessica and amata are supposed to do. at least amata still has sense of purpose with mikono but zessica has nothing going for her.

Krono

2012-03-26 09:33

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Originally Posted by LastOrder (Post 4073490)

Spoiler for fudo stuff:

Spoiler for Gen Fudo:

LastOrder

2012-03-26 11:29

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Originally Posted by Krono (Post 4074189)

Spoiler for Gen Fudo:

True, but judging from Mykage's words this episode, I have some doubt to it now. For all we know, Touma could be reincarnated for the sole purpose of protecting
those precious Solar Wings.

cyberdemon

2012-03-26 12:37

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Originally Posted by theflyingturkey (Post 4074070)

Well there is the theory that Amata and Kagura are the same being, just separated. Not in the way of Celiane splitting her soul into Silvia and Sirius but more likely of a forced way probably thanks to Mikage. After watching episode 13 this is only enforced. Mikono originally saw Kagura's face overlap Amata's but now she's sees Amata's face overlap Kagura's. She's seeing a link between the 2 of them. I'm thinking in the end Kagura is gonna be dying but she uses her connection ability to restore the 2 of them back to 1 true being.

Zuul	2012-03-26 13:04

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Originally Posted by theflyingturkey (Post 4074070)

I would love it.

I find MikonoxAmata difficult to root for knowing it makes Zessica miserable.

And their interactions are lacking something to me.

Zaresh

2012-03-26 13:22

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Originally Posted by LastOrder (Post 4074384)

True, but judging from Mykage's words this episode, I have some doubt to it now. For all we know, Touma could be reincarnated for the sole purpose of protecting
those precious Solar Wings.

But Touma has no reason to "wear" Fudo's appearance.

Spoiler for Touma, Sirius and Fudou:

miketyson

2012-03-26 13:27

Isn't a bit of a catch-22 though? If Zen is Sirius, how does it work having Schrade as a Sirius reincarnation? Seems like you can't have that one both ways...

Zaresh

2012-03-26 13:31

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Originally Posted by miketyson (Post 4074618)

Isn't a bit of a catch-22 though? If Zen is Sirius, how does it work having Schrade as a Sirius reincarnation? Seems like you can't have that one both ways...

If Shrade is Touma, Fudou can be Sirius. But as I said, I don't think Fudou is Sirius, and I think he (Sirius) is probably Shrade.

Maybe Fudou is just Fudou.

Thess

2012-03-26 14:16

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Originally Posted by Vena (Post 4073990)

Spoiler for Hum:

Spoiler for kagura and zen:

LastOrder

2012-03-26 14:49

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Originally Posted by Thess (Post 4074719)

[/SPOILER]

Spoiler for kagura and zen:

I think that one of the main themes of this anime is to over come fate. Solar wings can't be Amata. Otherwise, we'd have Amata having flashbacks/ memories of Apollonius.

When Apollo piloted Aquarion, he was able to hear Apollonius, so if that were the case, Amata would at least have heard some kind of Apollonius voice or something like that, a memory of anything but he didn't, well at least not yet.

Also, I kind of figured out why love is forbidden.

Fudo is trying to protect the students this way, because if he falls in love he knows Mykage will come after them.

Aquarion doesn't go beserk because of love, it's Mykage doing all the work there.

ReddyRedWolf

2012-03-26 15:39

Makes me wonder when Fudou will break out the Assault Aquarions. So we'll have triple or quadruple Aquarion action.

As said I think Mykage is Johannes. It makes sense since Fudou is the leader of Deava, Johannes was the leader of the Shadow Angels.

Apollonius, Celiane, and Toma they were just grunts.

While Apollonius and Celiane had led the formation of the nation of Sangrila somebody else obviously led humanity to fight the Shadow Angel's oppression.

Gen/Zen Fudou was one of their Element comrades that was also one of Aquarion's pilots.

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Originally Posted by LastOrder (Post 4074772)

When Apollo piloted Aquarion, he was able to hear Apollonius, so if that were the case, Amata would at least have heard some kind of Apollonius voice or something like that, a memory of anything but he didn't, well at least not yet.

That's because Aquarion is his wings. Wings of the Sun is Aquarion itself.

LastOrder

2012-03-26 16:13

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf (Post 4074850)

I know, that's why I said Amata can't be Wings of the sun/Solar wing.

And Amata having no smell, it might because he's like Sylvia and Sirius, in the sense that they are part Shadow Angel.

Though, I have a feeling that Amata has a deeper connection to Apollonius/Apollo than we think. His past, aside from having revealed to us that he is Alicia's son, is pretty much in the dark for now.

That machine that was making him face his memories or whatever it was, made it go out of control/burn out.

Since in Sousei no Aquarion episode 14-15 was when Apollo looked into his memories of his past, I'm really hoping that we get at least one of the characters remember their past life.

I'm pretty sure someone said that Evol would reveal something about the reincarnations half way through....so maybe episode 14 or 15?

Here's to hoping.

dark44

2012-03-26 16:34

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Originally Posted by LastOrder (Post 4074893)

shadow angels have smell kagura always stayed with mykage why he didnt say that he smell like mykage no he was shocked that he have no smell beside it is strange that all he remmbers was he have wings and alicia go to altar i think all his memories are fake

mayumi

2012-03-26 16:51

i think the reincarnations are actually pretty clear right now. other than the twist with the mirrors with zessica. she is the only one who is not clear at this point. she could be rena/scorpius/part of reika/toma/part of silvia/tree of life/shushu's other half(she has purple eyes and green hair-fur thing like shushu) etc :heh:

cyberdemon

2012-03-26 17:08

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Originally Posted by mayumi (Post 4074980)

I wouldn't say it's clear. Particularly for Silvia. It's pushed Mikono but Zessica is showing more and more that she is probably Silvia's reincarnation. Mikono is thought to be but she doesn't have any of the powers or memories of Silvia. We don't even know what it is she feels she needs to apologize to Kagura for. For Apollo, the fact that Kagura keeps using the name Silvie dampens his legitimacy because it means he doesn't really have any true memories and that any of them could be fabricated by Mikage. Amata's solar wings make him a possible Apollo but he doesn't really have much else to go on besides that.

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