What do you use for your loseless pass?
 

For curiousitys sake - what do you people use?

Lagarith of course (for YV12).

I use the option in MeGui...

May I ask as to what that represents??? I only know of x264, XviD, LMP4 and Snow in MeGUI (and only two of those can do lossless AFAIK, and for their use I would say rather pointless to use them for a lossless pass). >_>

/me voted for Huffy

It represents "Add Pre-Rendering" box-thingy-optiony :), meow ;).

's basically huffyuv from what I know - but from what I also know, last time I checked the file size it produced was much smaller then that of huffyuv I once tried - so I never used that option since I never trusted it :).

But here's from da wiki:

"Pre-rendering job
Checking this box before you click 'enqueue' will create an extra job that runs before the encoding. This job will encode the input script to a (lossless) HuffYUV file, and then use that file for input for your encoding. The advantage of this is that your avisynth script will only have to run once, meaning a 2+ pass encode will run faster.

Caveats:

Lossless files can be large. A 2hr DVD movie will come in around 30gb, a 2hr 720p file closer to 60gb.
The huffyuv file is output to the same location as the input script, not to the same location as the final file. "

Voted HuffYUV.

Lagarith here; also have Huffyuv at the ready in case something catastrophic occurs.

Lol, somethin' don' add up, if you use laga, ffd-d00d uses laga, and *I* use laga, it should have 3 votes... IT'S A CONSPIRACY BY THE HUFFYUV PEOPLE! I AM SURE OF IT!

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Seriously though, I though there'd be more votes(in general) meow... :(

Voted Huffy.

It does the same job as Lagarith in a much more reasonable timeframe.

h264 qp0
Since fft3dgpu is slower anyway.

I tend not to vote in polls, so there's your answer. I doubt most of us are really concerned over who uses what so that probably contributes to the lack of turnout.

Awww, bascally you're saying encoders are no fun? :).

Meh... Can't they humor me? :).

Ah well...

(Don't mind xat... He's one of those "quiet encoders".)

Encoders are buckets of fun, especially when there is a n00b to pick on.

Definitely FFDShow's HuffYUV. As long as the compression is barely reasonable, I go purely for speed.

megui uses huffyuv

I still Use VBLE, it's really fast to work with in after effects.

Da huffman!

Huff of course... Purely for speed. With terabyte hard drives I can care less about the size.

Well, it's not like you need that much space either way since 25min @ 704x400 takes about 4-5GB and 720p 10-11GB. And then it's not like you archive the lossless passes...or do you? :heh:

Just a minor note, you might want to differentiate the original Huffyuv (which is not YV12 capable) from the one in FFMPEG by referring to it as FF-Huffyuv...or sometimes just abbreviated FFVH (the fourcc used). I usually call it FFVH anyways :P, which is what I voted for...meow :).

Nah, I just grouped the enemy into one name :), besides, I don't think many here use the non-yv12 version... who needs an extra colorspace conversion? (or whatever that's called)

Where's DIVX on that list? LOL! (I shouldn't laugh...I knew people like that in the past...)

What does MeGUI use?

I voted huffyuv (one in ffdshow) for most stuff.

But if it's something that I know I will hold on to the lossless for a while and need insane compression. Then I will use FFV1 in ffdshow.

Was discussed on the 1st page man :).

He's likely inquiring whether it uses the original Huffyuv or the ffmpeg one.

Though I'm not a user of MeGUI (only have it on PC for when I helped someone use it), I would assume that it uses the Huffyuv from ffmpeg since it includes ffmpeg in it's tools folder.

Oh, apologies in that case ;), sowwy - didn't "get it" ;).

No idea if Harukalover is correct or not though :(.

Lagarith or FFV1.

I use lagarith because I almost always end up working on slow projects.

Hehe, oi poor DryFire :(. Truly in such cases as that I might be crazy enough to use FFV1. Even though its pretty slow on decoding too.

/me apolagizes

I guess it would be megui option in my case, though i use lagarith more. It compresses better than huffyuv (standard), and ffdshow's huffyuv sometimes kills after effects . Plus.. it's got support for null frames which can be quite handy for overlays

non-linear access in ffv1 is killer.

how do you make huffy or ffmpeg huffy work with megui?

Lagarith for me.

Megui us mencoder to do huff by default it uses the ffmpeg version. Just set the path for menocder and set the check box next to pre-rendering pass and your set.

megui doesn't use mencoder, it uses ffmpeg. They are different applications.

And I was so sure I saw Mencoder running @ 99% CPU when encoding some stuff using MeGUI with SNOW. Now I really can't imagine it using both ffmpeg and mencoder for different tasks.

mencoder is used for encoding snow :P ffmpeg is used for encoding huffyuv

The magic of hosers using GUIs...they have no idea what they are using. lawl.

Well I could show you the logs if you like unless it has something to do with the version of megui i use. I'm sure it was mencoder i saw running. Unless ffmpeg shows up as mencoder in the task running window...

Neh.. it's mencoder being a frontend for a lot of stuff (so i read).. so you were probably right, eventhough in the end it's the same as ffmpeg's huffyuv