Accel World - Anime Spoilers & Speculation (for experienced novel readers only)
This thread is for the experienced Accel World viewer (i.e. those of you who are familiar with potentially all the light novels), its purpose is to allow free discussion of theories and speculation over the Accel World anime series, it therefore will contain unmarked spoilers. If you are a light novel virgin of Accel World, then do not read this thread unless you want to be spoiled (use the Speculation & Theories Thread).
Since posters are expected to be familiar with the light novel, there is no real need for spoiler tags, but feel free to include them if you so wish. Adding a Spoiler tag:
Finally, please remain on-topic and do not use this thread if it's just discussion about the current or previous anime episodes. Also remember that this isn't a light novel discussion thread, if you do want to discuss the light novel then please use the existing thread. |
i want to be spoiled someone summarize each volume of accel world in a short/concise way only, thank you!!!
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This is amazing. The accel world Spoiler thread is very empty compared to the Sword Art Online Spoiler thread.
Anyway, I'd also second that request for summaries, or links to them, since Baka Tsuki only goes up Volume 3 (where I do see the material closing onto the emotional climaxes of the best points of SOA). |
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I'm reading Volume 7 where this guy shows up in the imperial palace. 1. Never fought anybody before 2. Never left the imperial palace 3. Touched the Infinity and therefore been automatically ported out into the real world 4. Still in the imperial palace And since you can't get IN the imperial palace without a broken skill like blink, there's only one conclusion. Somehow a member of the imperial family got brain burst installed on him. i.e. prince or crown prince. This is just idle speculation, but I think his identity will never really get explained since it would be really touchy in Japan to include the royal family into your fiction, even a light novel...hence the heavy-handed subtext (but no real explanation) |
Mirrors are generally made from a layer of metal stuck to a layer of glass or any other suitable material. If so, would Crow be able to learn Theoretic Mirror by first allowing the light from Metatron to pass through a linker made of that material?
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One of those metals used was silver ;) |
Well, I believe the property the Kings had in mind was more in line with the modern day mirrors rather than mirrors of the olden age, since those are definitely better at reflecting light.
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Im gonna make summaries from vol 5 to 12, 1 - 4 not cause that will be covered by the anime
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Chrome Falcon became Chromium Disaster (by some way), can the same thing happen to Silver Crow?
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and just a question if i remember right i read some novel readers saying that the Incarnate System power of Black Lotus is the reason why Sky Raker's legs are permanently disabled right? because in episode 19 of Accel World anime, Megumi is shown as burst linker but she can enter Accel World so that means her brain burst program is still on her, im guessing she has amnesia of Accel World and that some Incarnate System power have given her amnesia about Accel World, so i ask is my speculation true? does Megumi just have amnesia of accel world on the light novels? |
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about Lotus, that was more an speculation / mistake/ misunderstanding. I think we dont even know what lotus IS is,, aside from one point where she turn one of her blades into a hand |
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Well, anime skips quite some things this episode(Relationship btw Krikin and BL, the strongest name eg...). Regarding Megumi in the novel, she got a warning dialog mentioning she can only do it once when she attached the cable. So most likely, her amnesia was due to uninstalling of BB rather than any IS. |
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Nothing in this thread is making any sense. So, it seems add more nonsense information in to the discussion, especially the fan fiction material. What hack is IS? My guess is Infinite Stratos. It makes sense for the anime's harem potential. Maybe it's basis of fictional item called ISS. The former Student Body president is a girl with bright aura, but she envies Red Rider's unlimited gun production. So, she stole his power. Due to her trickery, she was physically beaten by child burst linker. As the story goes on, she turned this ability into ISS, or it is just a game editor. It's only much more devastating than the chrome disaster. The amnesia makes me wonder. Did Aqua Current discover the system's weakness. She can erase Haruyuki ability during the game. It's more than her water ability allowed. |
IS is just an acronym of light novel readers for Icarnate System (the Will overrides Reality kind of power)
@garf02 thanks and im gonna wait for your summary compilation so no pressure XD |
Ok my memory is foggy about the correct timeline of the event in Vol 6, 7 and 8 so Im just gonna list em the best way I could remember em
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I formulated this theory under the assumption SAO and Accel are indeed in the same timeline and what little knowledge I have regarding both.
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And by the by, this thread is for speculation about the anime, and not the L/Ns. Although.. I can't say I blame you for posting this here instead of in the L/N thread considering it's current state.. |
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There already exists a thread for SAO/AW comparisons.
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Uhh.. no way. :heh: I honestly can't understand why some people are so intent on connecting the two worlds.. Quote:
Speculation and Theories: anime speculation thread for anime-only viewers. Spoilers and Speculation: anime speculation thread for light novel readers/those familiar with the source material. Quote:
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Quick question; when does the most recent story arc take place? I know Sword Art Online has spanned several years so far, and the Accel World anime has covered a fair amount of ground in a short time (Autumn 2046 -> April 2047). How much time has passed in the novels?
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Can anyone advise if Taku is really a spy for the blue legion? The blue king did let him leave and join kuros legion with the minimum of fuss which makes me think theres something going on there, also a few times in the anime it looks like taku is about to confess something to haru then doesnt.
Also what happens with the Chiyu, Haru, Taku love triangle? |
Taku -> Chiyu -> Haru.
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Sorry I meant, is there a resolution to the triangle in the LNs yet, Im not sure how far ahead the Lns are to the anime, im hoping the triangle mess gets sorted and doesnt become one of those things that is never given proper resolution.
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I don't think it would be resolved for quite some time.
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Reading the spoilers above, I now know that being Taku is suffering.
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Can anyone confirm me that in novel vol 4 , the article Haruyuki read only have Nerve Gear. When I watch anime, it sudden occupied to me, Kawahara said AC is an alter future of SAO. If this world didn't have Amu Sphere, maybe SAO incident this not happened. Then Asuna and Kirito did not meet each other and remain the way they are.
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Let say something far stretch, what possibility of a timeline where SAO incident did not happen. Episode 22 have NerveGear but not AmuSphere.
About WC, her name(name in AC have important meaning, it tell basic trait of Avatar as well as personality), skill, action gave impression of hollow and vanity yet brilliant and magnificent. |
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First, allow us to lay down the facts about black and white that we DO know for sure: 1. Both colours are at the opposite end of a spectrum that governs a certain quality of an avatar 2. Said quality is independent of attack type (covered by the colour wheel) and avatar resistance (covered by the metal chart) 3. The following avatars are near white or actually white: Ardor Maiden, Sky Raker, Trilead Tetraoxide, Ash Roller, Sand Duct, Saffron Blossom and White Cosmos. 4. The following avatars are near black or actually black: Blood Leopard, Dusk Taker, Aqua Current, Graphite Edge, Black Vice and Black Lotus. http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/b...5782885766.jpg Now, the reason why I said black or colorless could possibly represent fear is due to the following: 1. Blood Leopard, a red avatar, uses biting as her main form of offense and also has 2 special attacks that relate to biting. As this goes against her position on the colour chart, we must look at her position on the white-black spectrum. As you can see, Blood Leopard sits rather close to black or colorless. As such, we can assume that this must be the culprit responsible for such an attack style. 2. Black Vise and Black Lotus, both being pure black avatars, should have at least a single similarity, even though both avatars underwent different development. 3. We have never seen Aqua Current attacking anybody, merely witness her defensive abilities. Memory Leak does not count as it is an IS ability, which is related to filling her emotional scar, wheras it is the emotional scar itself that is responsible for her avatar. 4. We do not know enough of Graphite Edge at this point of time to gleam any information. 5. Dusk Taker utilizes both range types by stealing the required body parts/ abilities/ Enhanced Armaments, rather than it being an original part of his avatar. This fits in with his position on the colour wheel as a purple avatar, but we must remember that this was bought about by his stealing ability. As Demonic Commandeer can be categorized under no other colour, besides yellow, which is in fact nearly directly opposite his position on the colour wheel and therefore making it impossible for it to be a yellow ability, we must again look to his position on the white-black spectrum. Thus, again we must assume that his position in relation to the black or colourless portion is responsible. Taking these factors into consideration, we get fear. You are correct to say that fear is subjective, but there are things people fear universally: having your belongings stolen from you (Dusk Taker), being sliced in half (Black Lotus), the darkness [We were all born being afraid of the dark in one way or another.] (Black Vice), being crushed to death (Black Vice) and monsters from most mythos are always described as having sharp teeth, which always means a nasty bite (Blood Leopard). Now that you have seen my rationality for my conclusion, are you still going to throw it out of the window and casually dismiss it as groundless ? |
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However, that assumes that purely or nearly Black and White avatars are not specialized in ways that one could define as "types of attack". Yet, Black Lotus is primarily focused on direct close range combat, and Black Vise is evidently suited for indirect long range combat. Two avatars which are pure Black, and they are designed for completely different tactics which seem like they ought to be Blue and Orange. What similarities do they share? Do these similarities set them apart from Blue and Orange avatars? You mention the possibility that they underwent different development, but do you imagine it's plausible that at Level 1, Black Lotus wasn't made of blades and Black Vise wasn't made of panels? Their names suggest otherwise. Lotus seems a poetic way of referring to her many blades (as petals, you see) and how she floats (a lotus being a flower that floats on water). Vise would refer to Static Pressure, the move which traps opponents in a crushing vise made of panels. Further, White Cosmos herself seems like she can be defined as a Yellow avatar. Because if she lacks any direct attacks at all, then that clearly means she has one specific attack type: Indirect. Quote:
That is, if Raker has no weapon, she needs to rush into close-range combat to defeat her opponent. And even though Roller rushes into to direct collide with his opponents, he is protected from the collision by his bike, which also works as a sort of shield against counterattacks. But Sand Duct makes no sense as a Yellowish avatar. His main attack (Sand Blaster) is long-range and direct. His body is huge, and though we never see him throw a punch, it seems like he ought to have a lot of weight behind it. Likewise, his size suggests that he can absorb a lot of damage before going down. The only thing that would make the whole thing sensible is if Sand Blaster is actually very weak at dealing damage, and instead is primarily intended to push a target away. That, combined with Molecular Driver, gives Sand Duct the power to push and pull his opponents -- indirectly affecting the battle by controlling their distance relative to himself. Sand Blaster inflicting only minor damage directly also helps explain how Aqua Current absorbed a shot with no apparent effect. Even if she has a resistance based on her body, Sand Duct is two levels higher. Silver Crow is strong against piercing attacks, but with an advantage of three levels, Cyan Pile used a piercing attack to sever his arm clean off. Quote:
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On that note, I do agree that Demonic Comandeer itself was an indirect ability, and as such should have been Yellow. Considering all that, his Purplish color makes just as little sense as Blood Leopard's Reddishness: None. In fact, if Dusk Taker and Blood Leopard have one similarity, it's that they're on the completely opposite sides of the color wheel than they should be. Purplish Taker should be Yellow, and Red-Orangish Leopard should be Blue. |
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"...the metallic names «Metal Color», instead of attack, these are best at defense affinity. "Your «Silver» included, the metallic colors are very rare, it is a strong color type. It has resistance against cutting, piercing, heat and poison attacks, and attack strength when using it’s hard metallic body for close combat is not low. But of course it has weaknesses. Corrosion attacks are it’s natural enemy, and it is also weak against blunt attacks." So it seems that Silver is a <<Close Combat Direct Attack>> type after all. Each of the metal colors might have an associated attack strategy as well as defense strategy. Which only makes sense. The attack strategies of the chromatic colors are also forms of defense, so that they have strategies to apply towards survival as well as victory. But if all the metallic colors can do well is absorb hits, then they would just be green. Further, all metallic colors have have as many vulnerabilities as resistances. Therefore, they cannot be said to specialize in defense. Rather, it must be said that their defenses are specialized. Since their resistances have so many exceptional vulnerabilities, just about any enemy can try to exploit at least one. This means metallic avatars cannot rely on defense like Greens, so they also need a specialized method of attack in order to achieve victory. Gold is likely vulnerable to all forms of physical damage, and thus likely favors a long-range strategy (Gilgamesh!). Conversely, the avatar known as Iron Pound is almost certainly <<Close Combat Direct>>. In total, this makes all metallic avatars more specialized than any chromatic avatar, since each metallic color is specialized in one particular form of attack AND against various forms of damage. Recently in the fanfic thread, you made the convincing argument that the most highly-specialized avatars in the game are, in a way, the most powerful. That would make metallic avatars the most powerful avatars in the game, since each of them is double-specialized, and not one of them is an impure "alloy". This even explains the paradox of Kuroyukihime's two statements. Though she says all avatars of the same level are essentially equal, she also says that metallic colors are "strong". Other Burst Linkers also comment that Crow should be strong because he's silver. Theoretically, Silver Crow is equal. In practice, his double-specialization is a greater advantage than even a King of Pure Color's single-specialization. Quote:
Yet, it is true that Leopard and Taker are, apparently, on the completely opposite side of the chromatic wheel than they should be, and that both are darker shades. There might be a connection that is not readily obvious. Alternatively, the author is simply breaking his own rules. After all, he can't call a vampiric cat "Blood Leopard" if she's blue. "Yellow Taker" would have looked more comical than ominous. Just look at Sulphur Pot, who needed to ride a gigantic black dragon to look particular threatening. Yellow Radio looks like a clown; if he hadn't appeared in ambush with half his legion, would he have seemed properly intimidating? |
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