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Washi 2010-10-31 20:27

orion:

He wrote up a full, elegant letter explaining that he would retire from anime if fractal failed, as well as his reasoning for doing so. It wasn't an offhand comment or anything but a full pledge. He did this shortly after it was announced actually (I mentioned it in my previous post).

But I believe him. He's directed a live-action film now, so it's possible he's looking to expand his career anyway.

einhorn303 2010-10-31 22:59

Out of curiosity, does anyone have a link to a copy of this letter from Yamakan? I would like to read it as he always has interesting things to say.

Washi 2010-11-01 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by einhorn303 (Post 3325718)
Out of curiosity, does anyone have a link to a copy of this letter from Yamakan? I would like to read it as he always has interesting things to say.


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c122/houko/133520.jpg

Recently, I've been agonizing quite a bit over anime. It's been bothering me for probably over a year now, in fact.

But still, in the minor aspects that I have dealt with the industry, I've had to talk about it in a number of places. But the more that I talked about it, and the more that I thought about it, the more dismal my feelings toward it became. That's how things have been.

"Maybe anime is just no good anymore"
That thought has popped up in the back of my mind countless times now.
But if I were to just give up and leave now, my conscience would be too heavy. Not to mention it would be unfair to anime as a whole, which is a part of what made me who I am today. I've finally gotten to a place where I can think that. Although it might just be stubbornness.

So although I'm prepared to face the worst case scenario, I'd like to participate one more time in an anime production as a director.

This may in fact just become a personal battle in the end. And if this fails, I am already prepared to retire. However, there's still a part of me telling me that there's still something I have to say, and in my own words. Call it faith if you like, but that's what has given me the courage to one more time, at least one more time, try to make an anime.

I don't know what'll happen from here, but I honestly hope and dream of a day when anime will shine.
See you in "Fractale".

--Yamamoto Yutaka

orion 2010-11-02 07:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washi (Post 3325517)
orion:

He wrote up a full, elegant letter explaining that he would retire from anime if fractal failed, as well as his reasoning for doing so. It wasn't an offhand comment or anything but a full pledge. He did this shortly after it was announced actually (I mentioned it in my previous post).

But I believe him. He's directed a live-action film now, so it's possible he's looking to expand his career anyway.

Well, we haven't heard anything else about that film so I guess he shouldn't leave his day job yet.

But really, just because the other types of anime are flourishing doesn't mean that you have to take it down when your product doesn't.

applejuice 2010-11-02 08:07

^ but it's yamakan. You know what he has been saying through these recent years...

._.

MisaoFan 2010-11-02 08:28

Junko Minagawa is the most likely voice actress to play Clain, Yukana as Phryne and Nana Mizuki as Nessa. So, it will be good for Kaoru Chujo, the seiyu specialist ?

Guardian Enzo 2010-11-02 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by applejuice (Post 3327871)
^ but it's yamakan. You know what he has been saying through these recent years...

._.

That's it, pretty much. Yamakan is a great director - in my view, that's hard to dispute - but he's definitely a bit of a drama queen.

Westlo 2010-11-02 10:11

Yamakan is the "Itagaki" of the anime world and he's awesome for that, now all he has to do is wear dark shades everywhere and after Fractal bombs announce his comeback in 2015 so all us fanboys can go "He has fing returned!". (after saying he shall return for the 4 years prior)

Tworble 2010-11-02 17:55

From Yamakan's letter I get the idea that he is not sure if he can make the kind of anime series he wants to and have it be successful. I'm sure it will be if he puts his heart in it; but talk about pressure?


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Originally Posted by Kanon (Post 3287780)
http://journal.mycom.co.jp/news/2010...002/index.html

Presentation of the major characters. I love the original character design.

I like Sunda; why does he have to be one of the last shown?

TJR 2010-11-02 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washi (Post 3325919)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c122/houko/133520.jpg

Recently, I've been agonizing quite a bit over anime. It's been bothering me for probably over a year now, in fact.

But still, in the minor aspects that I have dealt with the industry, I've had to talk about it in a number of places. But the more that I talked about it, and the more that I thought about it, the more dismal my feelings toward it became. That's how things have been.

"Maybe anime is just no good anymore"
That thought has popped up in the back of my mind countless times now.
But if I were to just give up and leave now, my conscience would be too heavy. Not to mention it would be unfair to anime as a whole, which is a part of what made me who I am today. I've finally gotten to a place where I can think that. Although it might just be stubbornness.

So although I'm prepared to face the worst case scenario, I'd like to participate one more time in an anime production as a director.

This may in fact just become a personal battle in the end. And if this fails, I am already prepared to retire. However, there's still a part of me telling me that there's still something I have to say, and in my own words. Call it faith if you like, but that's what has given me the courage to one more time, at least one more time, try to make an anime.

I don't know what'll happen from here, but I honestly hope and dream of a day when anime will shine.
See you in "Fractale".

--Yamamoto Yutaka

Personally, I read it as more of a heavyhanded muse than a pledge.

Preparedness to retire (and over in the game industry, you have people saying those kinds of things from time to time) doesn't necessarily imply a commitment to follow through on it. It's a bit similar to saying that you're prepared to sacrifice your life for your product.

The other question is the meaning of success or failure. Is it critical? Commercial? Artistic? Ratings based (it's noitaminA, so a show could be a money loser but still be considered some kind of success based on relative viewership)? Focused on niche success or something broader? There's no clear definition except for what's currently in Yamakan's mind, or what he establishes after the fact.

In that way, I can't interpret it as anything more than doublespeak. He might truly be thinking about exiting the industry, but the statement would be equally valid even if he weren't.

applejuice 2010-11-02 21:58

^ based on Yamakan's past traits and dramas, he is definitely talking about commercial success. Even though it might be nothing more than a double speak, it's pretty much fact all over the 2ch now that he will retire if this fails.

Honestly, I'm half-sceptical about his saying.

Washi 2010-11-02 22:31

Yeah it's pretty obvious he's referring to commercial success. But I suppose you might be right about it being a bluff of some sort. However, I do think he's sick of his anime career or at least wants to move into live-action more. In interviews he's vented frustration about the anime industry. Retirement from something isn't usually something mentioned casually. But no one will know for sure until the DVD/BD sales come along.

Falkor 2010-11-06 21:55

Cast Announced!

Clain : KOBAYASHI Yuu (小林ゆう)
Phryne : TSUDA Minami (津田美波)
Nessa : HANAZAWA Kana (花澤香菜)
Enri : IGUCHI Yuka (井口裕香)
Sunda : ASANUMA Shintaro (浅沼晋太郎)

Source: MoonPhase Diary

seeing Kana Hanazawa's name shouldn't surprise anymore... :heh:

if Yamakan is indeed putting his career on the line, that would be interesting to see. how many Noitamina shows have been "successful" in the past, though?

Mizuno 2010-11-06 22:22

I have seen the first couple of chapters and it's pretty average. This will require a lot of work if it's to be memorable...

MisaoFan 2010-11-07 03:08

Yuka Iguchi appeared noitamina for the first time thanks to Fractale !

Katapan 2010-11-07 04:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkor (Post 3334989)
Furyune : TSUDA Minami (津田美波)

Haha, KIBAGO! I'm really curious to find out how she'll sound as a person rather than a Pokémon, because I could have sworn it was Shiraishi Ryouko voicing Kibago at first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkor
Sunda : ASANUMA Shintaro (浅沼晋太郎)

Phew. I'm glad the first rumored cast list was fake, I didn't want yet another Miyano character here... Asanuma Shintarou is, on the other hand, always fun to listen to these days.

After getting excited over this pretty fun list, I'm just hoping I won't be too disappointed once I see more of the anime designs...

Kanon 2010-11-07 04:14

Nice! Kana-chan is voicing the energetic loli ~
Always good to hear Kobayashi Yuu as always, even though I'm not a huge fan of her boy roles. Maybe this one will help me forgot the terrible main character of Ookami Kakushi...

MisaoFan 2010-11-07 04:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katapan (Post 3335275)
Haha, KIBAGO! I'm really curious to find out how she'll sound as a person rather than a Pokémon, because I could have sworn it was Shiraishi Ryouko voicing Kibago at first.



Phew. I'm glad the first rumored cast list was fake, I didn't want yet another Miyano character here... Asanuma Shintarou is, on the other hand, always fun to listen to these days.

After getting excited over this pretty fun list, I'm just hoping I won't be too disappointed once I see more of the anime designs...

Asanuma looks like the next Yuji Ueda^^ because he voice strong but clumsy characters.

FlareKnight 2010-11-07 05:54

Well a pretty nice cast there.

einhorn303 2010-11-07 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkor (Post 3334989)
Cast Announced!

Kurein : KOBAYASHI Yuu (小林ゆう)
Furyune : TSUDA Minami (津田美波)
Nessa : HANAZAWA Kana (花澤香菜)
Enri : IGUCHI Yuka (井口裕香)
Sunda : ASANUMA Shintaro (浅沼晋太郎)

Source: MoonPhase Diary

Aren't the official romanized names for "Kurein" and "Furyune" actually "Clain" and "Phyrne," as is written here?: http://journal.mycom.co.jp/news/2010...002/index.html


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