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wontaek 2011-07-27 10:43

Best Moe Tournament 2011 (Korea)
 
Best Moe Tournament ENGLISH webpage is up!!!


http://moet.anizone.net/?Phase=CombatList&lang=eng


First the Skinny

Absolutely no campaign posts allowed.

This includes posts containing ANY campaign verbiage whether in whole or in part. Contributing to the debate is encouraged, provided you do NOT add "VOTE ABCD!!!" (or similar to the post itself). Simply rebutting another's post or opinion with "XYZ sucks" is totally unacceptable.

To be clear:

* Please do not create a post with the sole purpose to campaign for a character!
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We want intelligent, decent and fun discussions about the weekly Rounds and the subsequent winners & losers.

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wontaek 2011-07-27 10:45

Further Translations are needed, but I will try to answer any of your questions as soon as you post them. Would welcome any help with translations or finding any typos in the Best Moe Tournament site.

You may also do show your support for your favorites, or try to report a problem at the Best Moe's English forum page.

http://anizone.net/Moet_Inter_Forum

CrowKenobi 2011-07-27 11:27

Thanks for the heads up! :D

Do you think that you ask them to update this page: http://moet.anizone.net/index.php?lang=eng

(and rename the page title to include "2011")

wontaek 2011-07-27 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi (Post 3705632)
Thanks for the heads up! :D

Do you think that you ask them to update this page: http://moet.anizone.net/index.php?lang=eng

(and rename the page title to include "2011")


I have already asked them and also provided the translations.



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2011 Best Moe Tournament schedule

All times are in Korean Standard Time which is UTC + 9 hours.

2011 Best Moe Tournament Otaku's Division Schedule


07/30~08/10 Preliminary Round 1 Total 96 groups. 4 characters advance per group.Can vote up to 3 characters in each group.

08/13~08/20Preliminary Round 2Total 48 groups. 2 characters advance per group.

08/23~08/30Main Round - Round of 96Total 32 groups with 3 characters in each group. First place in each group advance.

09/02~09/10Main Round - Round of 32 1 vs 1 tournament

There is a three-day Korean Thanksgiving break from 09/11 ~ 09/13


09/14~09/21 Main Round - Round of 16 1 vs 1 tournament

09/24~09/27 Quarterfinals 1 vs 1 tournament

09/30, 09/31 Semifinals 1 vs 1 tournament

10/03~10/04 Final Final match deciding the champion of 2011 Best Moe Tournament Female Division.

RegalStar 2011-07-27 12:03

Err, is the nomination for male/female characters supposed to be together? Because I saw a decidedly male character (Motoki Kaizu) in the ranks, although I really can't tell otherwise because I recognize less than a tenth of all the characters there.

wontaek 2011-07-27 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegalStar (Post 3705670)
Err, is the nomination for male/female characters supposed to be together? Because I saw a decidedly male character (Motoki Kaizu) in the ranks, although I really can't tell otherwise because I recognize less than a tenth of all the characters there.

Due to repeated negative reaction towards Best Moe voters being 60% female until the Quarterfinal stage, the staff decided to change the eligibility criterion from being gender based to Series Orientation based. In return, the controversial 3 year limit has been removed. The Tournament has been named Otaku's division to highlight the fact that series that caters more towards male viewers will be the primary focus of the tournament. The former Male's division has been renamed to Otome's division in return.

The combined Eligibility rule.

1. Series that Staff has evidence of attracting mostly male voters while not attracting much female voters will have ALL, both male AND female characters appearing in the Otaku's division tournament.

2. Series that staff has seen evidence of attracting large number of male voters as well as large number of female voters will have its male characters participate in Otome's division and the female characters participate in Otaku's division.

3. Series that staff don't see large support from neither male voters nor female voters will have its male characters participate in Otome's division and the female characters participate in Otaku's division.

4. Series that Staff believes to likely attract much more female voters compared to male voters will have both its male and female characters participate in the Otome's division tournament.

5. There will be Super Moe Tournament where all series, both male and female characters are eligible. The discussion for the rules of 2011 Super Moe Tournament is scheduled to be held in September and October.


If you have suggestions or opinions towards 2011 Super Moe Tournament rules, please post them here and I will translate and post them in the Anizone's Korean Moe Tournament board for Korean people and staff to see and discuss.

Kyuu 2011-07-27 15:18

Oh good. Was waiting on this one to pop up.

Konakaga 2011-07-27 16:03

Quote:

1. Series that Staff has evidence of attracting mostly male voters while not attracting much female voters will have ALL, both male AND female characters appearing in the Otaku's division tournament.
:thinker:

So then trap characters are allowed if they're from a male aimed series? :heh:

hinakatbklyn 2011-07-27 16:52

I'm not sure of all the trap characters, but after skimming through the groups, I do know Hideyoshi (BakaTest) is in one of the later groups.

wontaek 2011-07-27 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konakaga (Post 3705885)
:thinker:

So then trap characters are allowed if they're from a male aimed series? :heh:

Yes. Trap was discussed explicitly because some of the running joke in some series is ambiguity of the gender, with Hideyoshi being the prime example. Watarase Jun in the Happiness! is another complicated reason. Since Both series can be said to be more geared towards male viewer and won't likely attract much female voters to the contest, thus these two characters retain eligibility since they are either male or female in anatomical sense.

The reason this matters is because non-human characters who can't be said to be male-like or female-like are not eligible. The prime example of this case is that Kyuubey is not eligible, since he isn't human, and we don't have any clue whether he has a gender in traditional sense. Raising Heart and Bardiche are also not eligible as they aren't human, and other than the voice, their physical feature doesn't conform to normal human gender. Traps are human, and while we may not exactly know their gender in some cases, we do know that in end, they are either male or female.

If we had someone with ambiguity about the gender in a series that is popular with both male and female, best guess about their gender is used, because they have to be at least one of the two genders. In rare case of being mixture of both, international convention says they will be treated as male in most cases.

Ithekro 2011-07-27 18:02

Okay....Touhou, Vocaloids, and Kyonko?

Konakaga 2011-07-27 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithekro (Post 3705977)
Okay....Touhou, Vocaloids, and Kyonko?

Pretty sure they're only allowed in Super Moe still, since Best Moe requires Anime series/movies :).

wontaek 2011-07-27 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithekro (Post 3705977)
Okay....Touhou, Vocaloids, and Kyonko?

The correct answer is below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konakaga (Post 3705988)
Pretty sure they're only allowed in Super Moe still, since Best Moe requires Anime series/movies :).

Touhou has not been made into anime by widely recognized commercial entity. Its 'OVA' was not marketed and sold in manner similar to traditional anime works by studios. So these fail Maker Qualification test

Vocaloids also lack certifiable anime presence. What little seen they had were inconsequential to overall plot, and screen time was too short. Therefore they fail significance test.

Kyonko was never an official character in an anime. What little scene a character that resembles her had wasn't significant, nor long enough. So he/she fails official status test and/or significance test.

If these characters appear in an anime series you can order its DVD from Amazon.jp and have significant screen time on it with their names clearly identified, then they can become eligible.

Super Moe Tournament is deliberately more relaxed in eligibility rules. Consider it an escape venue for many who were denied.

hinakatbklyn 2011-07-29 11:35

I think I'll start K-Moe. Only a few interesting groups though:

(1) Reina (Queen's blade), 2 others
(2) Sora Aoi (Aki Sora), 2 others
(3) Shizu Shidou (Maria Holic) / Ku Fei (Negima) / Moeka Kiryu (Steins Gate)
(4) Kirino (Oreimo) / Victorique (GoSick) / Kotori (Da Capo)
(5) Winry (FMA Brotherhood) / Shellingford and Hercule (Milky Holmes)
(6) Kyouko (ToLoveRu), 2 others
(7) Lucy (Fairy Tail), 2 others
(8) Nana (ToLoveRu) / Sherwood (Princess Ressurection) / Setsuna (Negima)

wontaek 2011-07-29 12:53

Voting has started

Spoiler for Today's group 1 - 4:

wontaek 2011-07-29 12:54

Spoiler for Today's group 5 - 8:

wontaek 2011-07-29 13:32

My votes

Spoiler for Voting for Lisanna and others:

broken270 2011-07-29 14:15

1. Chizuru Kawanami, Ariel
2. Subaru, Aoi Futaba
3. Carina Verritti, Mako Mizukoshi
4. Kirino Kousaka, Victorique de Blois, Kotori Shirakawa
5. Kotori Shirakawa, Ikaros
6. Hime Onizuka
7. Mei Hoshino, Miharu Shimizu
8. Kinako Mochizuki, Setsuna Sakurazaki

Konakaga 2011-07-29 15:36

Just listing votes I care about, did vote for some side/other characters too lazy to list...
1. voted 3
2. Aoi Futaba, Kanna Aoyagi, one other
3. Susukihotaru, no one else worth my votes here[Moeka maybe but too strange...]
4. Kirino, don't know anyone else
5. Aria Shichijyou, don't know anyone else
6. Judit and 2 lesser-to-love-ru characters; also why is Sugata here :eyebrow: his series qualification should have males in other sections and females here :uhoh:.
7. voted 3
8. voted 3

wontaek 2011-07-29 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konakaga (Post 3708400)
6. Judit and 2 lesser-to-love-ru characters; also why is Sugata here :eyebrow: his series qualification should have males in other sections and females here :uhoh:.

Because not many female voters expressed interest in the series, during a month long debate about the rules and eligibility.


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