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Pellissier 2011-08-16 09:43

Steins;Gate - Episode 20 Discussion / Poll
 
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Aqua Knight 2011-08-16 14:03

Episode is out!

Midonin 2011-08-16 14:05

S;G 20 - Beyond forever, time after time

I can't say I was expecting him to be FB. He kinda looks like what comes to mind when I hear "FB", too. Mostly. I found it a little strange that even after the timeline was changed and nobody died or had anything else bad happen to them, she wasn't at the lab (at the moment). Though if she is a member of it, more power to her. Might get her to open up.

Mr. Braun seems to be in the same boat as she was. A bit more reasonable, but a bit more deprived underneath his exterior too. It looks like in the end, going up the chain of command, SERN are the ones at fault here for being a bunch of power-hungry faceless people. But since they're in France and our heroes are in Japan, nothing that can be done but hope the Large Hadion Collapser (tm) fails. The idea that Rintaro hasn't been seeing Mayuri much lately is a good point. He who fights monsters, etc.

We're almost back to where we began. Looks like there's one more mystery to solve. Because if Rintaro can fight against the world so far, I believe he can do it again.

gecd 2011-08-16 14:19

not a bad episode
but just I expected
Spoiler for Game, Moeka's chapter:

Midonin 2011-08-16 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecd (Post 3730843)
they dont have the balls to animate that gore scene

You can scare people without showing blood and guts everywhere. The scary part of seeing someone get shot comes from what it represents, not what it is. In fact, sometimes it's scarier not to show it. Then the imagination starts filling in the blanks, and what it can produce can be worse than anything ever put to cels.

Marina2 2011-08-16 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecd (Post 3730843)
not a bad episode
but just i expected
Spoiler for game, moeka's chapter:

what?? They cut that out!!!!!?

I am very dissappoint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midonin (Post 3730847)
You can scare people without showing blood and guts everywhere. The scary part of seeing someone get shot comes from what it represents, not what it is. In fact, sometimes it's scarier not to show it. Then the imagination starts filling in the blanks, and what it can produce can be worse than anything ever put to cels.

By "gore scene" he didn't talk about someone get shot......

Midonin 2011-08-16 14:31

The point still stands, though. Imagination > animation team any day.

Kusa-San 2011-08-16 14:36

Ah ah so in the end it was Braun and not Nae ! Damn, I was sure Nae was not as innocent as she seems to be.

Great ep, and now the truth is revealed about the Alpha line ! I hope Okarin will be able to save Kurisu too :upset:

gecd 2011-08-16 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marina2 (Post 3730850)
what?? They cut that out!!!!!?

I am very dissappoint.


well
it cant be helped
some scenes ( and arcs especially faris and ruka ) must be sacrificed for the sake of the good final arc
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kusa-San (Post 3730862)
Ah ah so in the end it was Braun and not Nae ! Damn, I was sure Nae was not as innocent as she seems to be.

Great ep, and now the truth is revealed about the Alpha line ! I hope Okarin will be able to save Kurisu too :upset:

Spoiler for Game, Moeka's chapter:

Klashikari 2011-08-16 14:39

Color me surprised as well regarding the fact they cut short Braun's "extra story", but considering that only 4 episodes are left, it may be actually for the best.

I must say the impact was a bit downplayed without these missing scenes, as well as some directing being a bit too "flat on your face" with the lack of tension we usually have. However, they conveyed quite well the horror Okarin felt when he realized what would be the direct consequence of using the IBN5100.

A ok episode that settle things on Moeka and FB side, although they could potentially do better (at least, it wasn't as flat as Rukako's side).

By the way, please put spoiler tags regarding game content: not everyone want to know the fine details as they may plan to play the game afterwards.

gecd 2011-08-16 14:46

4 episodes left.....
but I heard there is one extra episode?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Klashikari (Post 3730868)
Color me surprised as well regarding the fact they cut short Braun's "extra story", but considering that only 4 episodes are left, it may be actually for the best.

I must say the impact was a bit downplayed without these missing scenes, as well as some directing being a bit too "flat on your face" with the lack of tension we usually have. However, they conveyed quite well the horror Okarin felt when he realized what would be the direct consequence of using the IBN5100.

A ok episode that settle things on Moeka and FB side, although they could potentially do better (at least, it wasn't as flat as Rukako's side).

By the way, please put spoiler tags regarding game content: not everyone want to know the fine details as they may plan to play the game afterwards.

sorry
still trauma to use spoiler tag
bacause i got infracted for using that:p

ars89 2011-08-16 14:49

Wow, Mr Braun was FB. Well at least they got the IBN now and can save Mayuri. But wait Okarin forgot about his first d-mail that saved Kurisu. So i wonder who will he choose to save?

Kopi 2011-08-16 14:58

I was "What?! FB is Braun?!" since I was expecting a woman along like.. Nae :heh: to "I pitied Braun" to "FUUU Braun for killing Moeka" before I pitied him again.

Then there was this sense of everything is alright again before Makise calmly talks about how she was killed, with Okabe and the atmosphere (BGM too) turning... dark. Best part imo in this episode.

Riga92 2011-08-16 14:58

Its finally revealed that FB was Mr. Braun all along. He wrote his text messages like a women in order to trick Moeka. Because she and himself are no longer needed since they completed their mission, he shoots Moeka and himself. Moeka also briefly remembered the things she did in past timelines, and apologizes to Okabe for everything.

The IBN5100 is back in Okabe's hands, and just when he thought its all over, he realizes that he has to sacrifice Kurisu in order to save Mayuri. Who will he choose?

For those wondering about a Moeka end, there is no ending for her. Also, this episode had a major deviation from the VN.

Spoiler for VN Difference:


Spoiler for VN CG if you REALLY want to see the difference:

miroku2192 2011-08-16 14:58

Oh preaseeee let there be a charlie line where both kurisu and mayuri survive :X?

This is rough. Originally, Kurisu should've been dead. So if he chooses the "i shouldn't have this power, then yes, i have to return to the original world..." and he would sacrifice Kurisu for Mayuri's safety...

But at the same time, without Kurisu's help, there would be no way he could've gotten to where he was, so is it fair for him to flat out say that he wants to return to the original world at the cost of Kurisu's life?

:'(

Sheba 2011-08-16 14:59

Oh Hey, look like I did a lucky guess about FB. And then....

Sadistic Choice 101

Choose wisely Okabe.

Kopi 2011-08-16 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riga92 (Post 3730887)

For those wondering about a Moeka end, there is no ending for her. Also, this episode had a major deviation from the VN.

Spoiler for VN Difference:

Wow... this is rather... but I wish this was animated.

GDB 2011-08-16 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kopi (Post 3730892)
Wow... this is rather... but I wish this was animated.

Same, but it's easy to see why they would change it.

This series really is good at choosing cliff hangers, I gotta say.

Kusa-San 2011-08-16 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecd (Post 3730867)
well
it cant be helped
some scenes ( and arcs especially faris and ruka ) must be sacrificed for the sake of the good final arc


Spoiler for Game, Moeka's chapter:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riga92 (Post 3730887)
Its finally revealed that FB was Mr. Braun all along. He wrote his text messages like a women in order to trick Moeka. Because she and himself are no longer needed since they completed their mission, he shoots Moeka and himself. Moeka also briefly remembered the things she did in past timelines, and apologizes to Okabe for everything.

The IBN5100 is back in Okabe's hands, and just when he thought its all over, he realizes that he has to sacrifice Kurisu in order to save Mayuri. Who will he choose?

For those wondering about a Moeka end, there is no ending for her. Also, this episode had a major deviation from the VN.

Spoiler for VN Difference:


Spoiler for VN CG if you REALLY want to see the difference:

Dmanit !! Why it was not animated :upset:

And what was these memories from the future ? :heh:

miroku2192 2011-08-16 15:13

I just went back and investigated Episode 1 of Steins Gate.

So I see that Suzuha was dressed up in a "worker's" outfit and gave the "no problem" or nothing to worry about sign I guess up top and Okabe left.

Afterwards, Kurisu from alpha line pulls Okabe from the lecture room and asks why he approached her earlier with a concerned look. Minutes later, we hear a scream, clearly Okabe's anguished scream (I'm assuming as he finds out that Kurisu is stabbed).

^This is where I'm lost/confused. Why are there TWO Okabe's now? When in each world line we've only had ONE Okabe with a transfer of his memories. Secondly, thinking about who WOULD stab Kurisu, the only one I could possibly imagine is Suzuha. Suzuha must've stabbed Kurisu upon landing because that way Kurisu wouldn't help SERN out. However, if the Alpha line is supposed to be the good world, then why is Suzuha even in that Alpha line time-traveling back in the first place?

Someone please explain this to me! I think I might've missed something or I am using a bad assumption.


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