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Pellissier 2011-09-04 02:16

Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 23 Discussion / Poll
 
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Midonin 2011-09-04 10:01

HSI 23 - Agent Takako, Judo Master

Bit of a contemplative episode, but not a completely unhappy one. The way people just barely avoided who they needed to meet in Tokyo but found them anyway was fun to watch. Characters, being moved around like puppets on a string, only occasionally crossing each other. The movie arc came to fruition here, too. Hope the world's ready for Jiromaru. He may not have learned about restraint in his time here, but I think he has learned about humility, at least to some degree. A bit of a buildup episode, though, so next week will be a crucial turning point, what with declaring Madam Manager herself as the Final Boss. (The game must have been altered to SS13).

Blaat 2011-09-04 10:26

Arghhhh previous preview was a troll, I admit I was expecting a confrontation with full of tension like in episode 12. So what did we get instead? An episode in which Ohana bonds with her aunt (Takako is your aunt? I'm so sorry!) in which males are pathetic once again (the director), Kou hangs out with Ohana's mum and with a nice Kou, Ohana confrontation cliffhanger (which was too convenient IMO, though not as bad as in episode 6 IIRC)

lol @ Tomoe in the video.

Peanutbutter 2011-09-04 10:29

I bet nobody expected the direction of this episode to be like this. As usual, we got trolled again. :heh:

I give up trying to think about what will happen next. It's always something that I never thought of but yet, it still makes so much sense.

Only thing is if I dun get a Ohana/Ko end, I'll rage, hard. ;)

Goggen 2011-09-04 10:37

Wow, I honestly didn't think they'd be following up on the whole movie thing. Glad I was wrong. So the question is, will they actually be able to get their money back?

Ohana knew the significance of Minko's putting spinach in the lunch (and more importantly; having tasted it herself). As we remember from earlier, Minko hates spinach, which is why Ohana served her spinach when she was mad at her. Presumably, the spinach in this episode was Minko's way of apologizing for her recent hostility.

Good episode.

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Originally Posted by Blaat (Post 3754700)
Ohana confrontation cliffhanger (which was too convenient IMO, though not as bad as in episode 6 IIRC)

Convenient, but not too convenient, IMO. After all, Ohana was on her way to meet her mom, so it's not that unbelieveable a coincidence that she'd run into Kou who just left from there. The episode where Tohru and Minko randomly found Ohana in Tokyo was worse in that regard. :)

DragoonKain3 2011-09-04 10:43

I actually liked Mom's question where she asked Ko if his relationship with Ohana would've been better if Mom didn't flee that day. This is because it was actually Mom fleeing that jump started the relationship, as it made him realize his current attitude isn't cutting it and forced him to confess. I mean, who knows, if Mom didn't flee Ko might still be trying his 'roundabout' ways that wasn't working with Ohana's thick head and nothing would've progressed. :heh:

ars89 2011-09-04 10:43

Nice of Minchi to make them lunches. Ohana's new aunt just kicked some ass. Never would have thought Takako could get things done. Nice of Ohana's mom to show Ko the footage. Looks like he's reinvigorated to go after Ohana. Nice ending with them meeting like that.

Roger Rambo 2011-09-04 11:00

Ko nearly gets himself sexually assaulted by a milf. :D


That would have been a MUCH more entertaining episode than "use random test footage of the inn to compensate for Ko having no idea what Ohana's been up to" exposition episode.



And Takako apparently knows Judo!

TheEroKing 2011-09-04 11:01

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Originally Posted by Peanutbutter (Post 3754704)
I bet nobody expected the direction of this episode to be like this.

It was at a total different level this week, loved it.

Takako can scream :heh: and that judo move :heh:

That aside, Satsuki must have some amazing pheromones for Kou to blush like that :heh:

"You're the most beautiful of all my friends' mothers". So Kou just admitted checking out all of his freinds' mothers :heh:

This episode also showed that Satsuki does have a lot of love for Ohana and is always thinking of her. Not a great mother but still a pretty cool one.

The ending with the lights coming on while they were on the bridge, it was just perfect.

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo (Post 3754737)
Ko nearly gets himself sexually assaulted by a milf. :D

ahahaha no way, Satsuki is too good for him :heh:

Kanon 2011-09-04 11:03

I love Satsuki for asking Ko whether he thought she intended to watch porn with him, as that thought definitely crossed my mind :heh: (and Ko's apparently, that guy might not be as dull as I thought).

Tomoe's interview... :heh: :heh:

I was pleasantly surprised the whole movie scam thing wasn't forgotten. Hmm, Takako isn't so bad after all. If she did something about that hair and stop spouting random english, she may become a decent character.

Roger Rambo 2011-09-04 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEroKing (Post 3754739)
ahahaha no way, Satsuki is too good for him :heh:

It's akin to disposable tissues. You use them then throw them away. :p


Ok. More seriously Ko wasn't actually to bad in this episode, when he actually is focused on. If he'd had more straight up role in the series, I might have found him more interesting as the love interest to the heroine. As it stands, even the relatively weaker stuff that focused around Kissiou come off as stronger/more important to me than the Ko sub plot.


Not totally satisfying, but OTOH at least it seems that they seem to be trying to wrap up this angle relatively soon so they can transition back to whether or not the inn gets shut down and how the succession goes.

TheEroKing 2011-09-04 11:19

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Originally Posted by Kanon (Post 3754741)
Tomoe's interview... :heh: :heh:

have a gif :heh:

http://i.imgur.com/Hvq80.gif

Haak 2011-09-04 11:39

That Tomoe bit was just freaking hilarious.

And it's good to finally see a male character that isn't such a tool.

ID555 2011-09-04 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midonin (Post 3754677)
HSI 23 - Agent Takako, Judo Master

Bit of a contemplative episode, but not a completely unhappy one.


I love it when it's in, as you say, a contemplative mood too.


And I don't think anyone's going to fall for that final troll preview.

frubam 2011-09-04 12:03

More Takako (>.>). I still cannot stand that woman, even though she's been less annoying recently. Despite her intentions(and success) at finding that guy, I don't feel it makes up for her lack of empathy of Ohana's situation while they were on the train.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo (Post 3754737)
Ko nearly gets himself sexually assaulted by a milf. :D


That would have been a MUCH more entertaining episode than "use random test footage of the inn to compensate for Ko having no idea what Ohana's been up to" exposition episode.

LOL, great minds think alike :heh:! That whole scene just screamed for something to happen. Why else would you mention your office is empty? I lol'd pretty hard that Ko actually thought he was going to watch a porno with her. Satsuki is such a damn tease! I was actually hoping for the most cliche' misunderstanding used in these types of situations; Ohana walking in on Satsuki falling on Ko(or vice-versa).


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEroKing (Post 3754739)
ahahaha no way, Satsuki is too good for him :heh:

Satsuki is too good for everyone :heh:!

deadite 2011-09-04 12:21

I just love how this show uses previous elements to further the plot

Anh_Minh 2011-09-04 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by frubam (Post 3754797)
More Takako (>.>). I still cannot stand that woman, even though she's been less annoying recently. Despite her intentions(and success) at finding that guy, I don't feel it makes up for her lack of empathy of Ohana's situation while they were on the train.

I agree that they were uncalled for.
- She came to Kissuiso not hoping to get her mama back, but mostly to have a roof over her head. Her only "hope" was to connect with the rest of her family. Who've all been distant jerks to her. She ended up choosing her job over her mom, and now that job is disintegrating under her feet through no fault of her own. (Though one could argue that if there's blame to be laid, some could be shoveled Takako's way... maybe. I still don't get why Sui decided to close the inn.)
- It's true that the problems of the young aren't the same as the problems of adults. They're cared for. Fed, housed and all. But they also have a lot less power over their own circumstances.
- You'd think someone who took at least a decade to go from acquaintances to husband and wife would be more sympathetic to Ohana's slow, awkward romance.

Utsuro no Hako 2011-09-04 12:31

I like that Takako only now realized she's Ohana's aunt. Just goes to show how important Ohana is to the rest of the world.

Triple_R 2011-09-04 12:32

My reaction to this episode:




Oh, this romance trolling... It is so delicious! :D


Great, great episode. It did so many things right. It did such a great job of moving things into a Ko/Ohana direction... to either end things very effectively and believably that way, or to troll us yet again. :heh:

Hugely surprising how the 2-part Movie Arc came up again, and Takako really shined in this episode, as did Satsuki. Ko himself came off pretty good.

Anh_Minh 2011-09-04 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako (Post 3754819)
I like that Takako only now realized she's Ohana's aunt. Just goes to show how important Ohana is to the rest of the world.

Nah... In fairness, Ohana's blood relationship to Enishi (or Sui) has never been made much of. Kinda expected when Sui's always insisting her son call her "okami".


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