Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai - Overall Series Impressions & Total Series Rating
This thread is to be used for discussing the entire episodes of Boku wa Tomodachi... ... your thoughts about the show, overall impressions, expectations and hopes about the DVD only footage etc.
A few subjects you might want to ramble on about:
And so on.
The poll represents your total series rating. In other words, how you would rate all the episodes combined (1-10)? If you'd rather rate the whole series by technical/artistic merits, you can do so. An example:
Animation Quality: 1-10
Voice Actors: 1-10
Emotional Involvement: 1-10
Average = Total Series Rating
Or a combination of the two. Or your general gut feeling.
Feel free to discuss and more importantly, have fun :)
Like Infinite Stratos, this is a guilty pleasure harem series for me. While it doesn't do enough different to really break the mold, it does enough different that I really enjoy it. The comedy is funny, the characters aren't annoying, and I thoroughly enjoyed myself, which is surprising, considering I wasn't looking forward to this.
I liked the premise of a group of people trying to make friends. While the series doesn't go all the way with that premise, instead having fun with parodying harem episodes, stuff like the cellphone episode are just gold. They do have some smart discussions about friendship and it never truly gets lost within the generic fanservice cliches. The stuff I really liked about this anime was the fact that it was about terrible people failing badly at being social. This sort of disappeared in the second half of the show and I admit I wish this series was a little more like Seinfeld. Nonetheless, it's better at being Seinfeld than Lucky Star.
The characters are the main reason I watched this show, and like Durarara, I don't care too much about the actual episode content as long as the characters are utilized well. I really love the main trio. Kodaka is a likable character, and while not Tomoya Okazaki-level, he's not forgettable or annoying. I actually like that while he's supposed to be the straight man, he's not above craziness of his own (the cellphone episode and a drama CD where the characters try voice acting are good examples of this). Yozora is hilarious. One of the few bitchy female characters that I can stand, and I love how it's made clear that besides her looks, everything about her is crap. Sena is awesome as well. Love how she wants to make friends, yet her horrible personality keeps getting in the way. While I sort of would have preferred the series if it just stuck to these three as the only Neighbors Club members, I do like how they still get the most attention and that Yozora and Sena are the only real viable love interests for Kodaka.
The other members? I like them fine, but they don't get any real development whatsoever. Rika is my favorite, as she's so batshit insane, yet so happy with her life. Kobato is decent as a great little sister character who switches between obsessed with vampires and caring for her brother. Yukimura gets one or two funny moments, but mostly, he/she/it is just there. Maria is annoying, but the show is aware of that and never misses an opportunity to get her punished for something, which is hilarious in of itself.
Other than the members of the Neighbors' Club, there are no other characters in this show. Okay, there's Stella and Pegasus (and the nun who caught Maria naked in Episode 7), but besides them, this show doesn't have any other characters. I find that very weird, but considering that the members outside the main trio are plenty, I guess I can't complain. Still, the funnier scenes were when the normal characters misinterpreted anything related to Kodaka, and I wish there were some normal characters to make the weirder ones stand out (Kodaka does not really qualify).
The animation is inconsistent, the music is okay, and such. Some of the fanservices scenes, while perfectly blended in with the series for the most part, are kind of weird. There's a scene that focuses on Sena and Yozora's chests for no real reason in Episode 5 that doesn't mesh well like a scene where we can see that Yozora doesn't wear panties in Episode 2. You heard me right. The chest scene in Episode 5 is weirder than the no-panty scene in Episode 2. The editing is decent for the most part, as they never stay on a joke for too long. And above all, the reason I like this anime is that it knows what it wants to be (I didn't think the drama scenes were all that bad) and plays it up for all it's worth.
All in all, I like this series. I do wish some of the more risque chapters were adapted into the anime, and I wish that there were other normal characters for the club to play off of, but I do hope for a second season of this.
P.S.: I noticed people complained about the swimsuit episodes, but honestly, only one of them was a proper one (and even that looked more like a parody than a proper one). The first one only had one girl and used for development, the second one was more trying to get to the pool than an actual pool episode (especially since the huge crowd caused it to fail), and the third one was just showing off swimsuits for only a few minutes as setup for what to expect in the following episode.
Edit: Also, I really like how the main problem of this series isn't who Kodaka will end up with. It's more of the fact that these club members are friends, but they can't seem to see that. While probably not that unique, it's still a good main problem to have with a series like this.
Animation Quality: 7
Animation was very good during the first few episodes (1 to 7) then it was just fine. Proportions, expresions, etc. were off and just plain weird sometimes. Hope they fix these in the Blu-rays.
Voice Actors: 8. Voice acting was great. I still give it a 8 because everytime Maria spoke I just wanted to pierce my eardrums. Maybe is because of her character but Yozora's voice was so dullfor me.
Script: 7. First half was a great with everyone having fun, character being introduced and the whole gang trying their best to be more sociable. The club pretty much loss it's purpose in the second half except maybe during the Festival where they actually went to place with lots of people around. Some of the jokes were overused and just got boring and some others parts weren't the least funny to begin with. The going to Sena's house and the beach episode (first half) were boring, IMO.
Liked how everyone joined a club to learn how to befriend people and themselves don't seem to really they, probably, are all friends already.
Character wise, they were really likeable. The only one I can't really bring myself to like too much is Yozora due to the way she keeps treating Maria and Sena. Some of her jokes were fun but, some other were just plain bullying in my eyes.
Kodaka is a great main character and probably the only "normal" of the bunch. Found both Kobato and Yukimura to be extremely cute. Sena is also cute for the most part, especially, when she asks Kodaka for help though, a bit creepy when around Kobato. Rika is a great character all around and finally Maria was somewhat annoying but, bearable and cute so it's too bad only Yozora got some character development...
Soundtrack: I didn't pay much attention to this part of the show to be honest but, I wasn't specially fond of the OP or ED (pretty much skipped them) and I can't really say any of the BGM tracks were memorable. So, I'll just give this part a 7.
Editing: Haven't read the LN so I can't say just how good was the editting for this show. Once again, I'll just say it's good. 7.
Enjoyment: Except for two episode I found just boring the series was really enjoyable. So, I'll give this an 8.
Emotional Involment: I can identify with the cast at some levels because I don't make friends so easily but, that's pretty much it. 7.
Overall, Haganai was pretty good harem comedy series and I'm really glad I watched this show. Should there ever be a second season I wish for more character development for the whole group.
I really disliked the fact Kodaka never stopped Yozora from bullying other members. Yukimura had some fun lines, espcially the one about real men not caring about food additives. I find myself cheering for Sena even though I don't really even like her just because Yozora is just so awful.
One of three shows (other two being Penguin Drum and Chihayafuru) that's airing this cour whose episodes I watched the moment I downloaded them. That at the very least says a lot, considering more and more anime I don't finish anymore.
i love the novel, but the anime was quite a letdown.
animation=6: wasnt totally bad, didnt had big quality moments, but it was mostly average, in the last episode is seen clearly how different was the first episode from the rest animation wise, quite sad since usually last eps have good animation.
voice actors=8: some nailed the role others didnt shine so much, but was a good casting overall.
script=5: for a novel reader they did a bad job at this, some scenes, lost the origina touch, overall giving it a more ligthhearted feel to the story than the original.
Soundtrack=3: other than the ending horrible, plain and bland bgm, not to mention the horrible bgm direction,lot of scenes sounded weird with the bgm they used.
Editing=4: lot of things cutted, worst thing toning donw sena's personality that changes a lot how we perceive other characters, specially yozora and kodaka.
enjoyment=7: even as poor as it was, it had its good moments, and was great to see some scenes animated, but mostly of my enjoyment was just to se those scenes i wanted animated.
Emotional involvement=9: i love the characters, specially how i can relate with some of the characters, and how there are crazy situations that end in a realistic way, but most of that it from my love to the Ligt novel
Animation Quality: 6 What could have been of this series with the previous art design :heh:.
Voice Actors: 8, Yeah, good job there.
Script: 5, I was like o_ó at the skipped parts of the original but I wouldn't mind if the scenes were handled better, the staff failed at this.
Soundtrack: 3, Horrible opening, good ending and lame soundtrack.
Editing: Sure they are new to this because there barely is consistence.
Enjoyment: 6 Sometimes good, sometimes bad, when I know before the original series before getting adapted into anime and I can enjoy it the same as the original in the anime format I know its a good series, but this one isn't.
Emotional Involvement: There was? Don't know, most of them came from the LN and the manga... ok, 6.
Overall, I'll give it a 6.5.
I really don't see why, as he showed that he *did* care for Sena in that episode he was at the pool with her, and she was pestered by those hoodlums.
So why the "I don't give a damn" attitude at other times? Scared of Yozora? Stoned? :rolleyes:
Overall it was an enjoyable series, however after the first few episodes the quality tapered off and was just never the same. By the time they got to the last episode, well, it was a good place to stop. I just got the feeling they just didn't have enough to fill the season, and the forced drama with Yozora was a poor effect-- I just didn't buy it. Which is a sad thing, since I find Yozora to be a fun character with her vicous trolling (but only if she is provoked) She actually has a sense of justice against bullies, but the things that happened caused to have a twisted view of the world which led to the person she is now. That's good and all, but we never really moved beyond that point.
The other characters were noteworthy, was definitely Sena. She's like everything Kirino should have been and is pretty hawt. It was a nice revelation that her snobby attitude all came from insecurity, making her one of the more fleshed out (in ways more than one) members of the series. Kodaka was also a decent male lead, being a sensible and caring guy, but not bland to the point where he's not there. You could see why he acts like that, as he serves as the straight man compared to everyone else. Rika is kinda fun, and Yukimura is amusing but not that interesting since they're pretty much defined by their archtype, as well as Kobato and Maria. Maria was definitely a minus.
The show took a huge fall once it just decided to toss out fanservice instead of actually being funny, but at least the fanservice was good. The animation quality suffered badly in spots near the end though.
On the good side, the humor was sharp when it was on its game. The show really knew how to get reactions out of people by playing the cruelty card to its fullest extent. Comedic sociopathy indeed in which the show knew just where to reach the limits of outrageousness without completely crossing it. The best parts tend to be the imagine spots, especially the video game parts. :heh:
It was fun, though unfortunately I can't recommend this series as a whole to someone; maybe the first few episodes for laughs, but that's it.
6.5/10 -- Marginal Recommendation for those with the niche interest in this genre. Since nobody lets me have deciimals, I just go with 7 on AS and 6 on MAL. ;)
Spoiler for A quick definition of the overall score:
Yeah, personally, I rate the anime based on whether I really enjoyed it. And while I don't think this series is really all that great (I probably should have ranked it lower), I just love watching these characters interact off each other.
lol, yea, I usually go by enjoyment. But there is no doubt I slowly enjoyed the series less and less due to the perceived budget/effort/writing issues that popped up.
Then again, everyone has their own way of adjusting their Arbitrary Rating System ™
Disclaimer: I'm just going to bitch. I actually like this series a lot more than this post implies.
But it is less good than it should have been, by far.
It seems the BDs are very successful.
I just discovered this series, and I've got to say it's really great. I started the manga two days ago, and by yesterday I'd read all the chapters, watched the entire anime, and read volume 4, and everything that's translated after it. I can't wait for more stuff to be translated :D
I'm also a big Kodaka/Yozora shipper BTW.
If this make you feel any better the anime skipped various chapters from the novels thus the reason why feels so rushed after the first story that had its focus on the main trio.
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