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Afternoon Tea 2012-01-01 00:38

Avi vs Mp4? which is better? Compare/contrast
 
Which is better? what are the differences? I want too convert a .Mkv file into one of these formats. Which one provides the best video/audio? Also is there away I can convert this loss-less? Space is not a problem for me. I want to be able to play this with subs through a HD TV via USB hard drive.

I'm trying to convert a .Mkv file with these specs

Video: H264/AVC 1920x1080p [~3200-5800 kBit/s]
Audio: AC3 2.0 384 kbps



MeoTwister5 2012-01-01 00:44

Huh. My dad's Samsung HDTV can play .mkv formats fine...

Afternoon Tea 2012-01-01 00:53

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5 (Post 3927418)
Huh. My dad's Samsung HDTV can play .mkv formats fine...

hehe its true both my HDTV,and bluray player play .mkv files brilliantly, its just that I want the soft subtitles to show up better, I herd you can somehow keep original font if converted.

DreGon45 2012-01-01 01:13

.MKV is a container, as are the .AVI and the .MP4. File extensions don't really have too much to do with soft or hardsubs. There is such a thing as a hardsubbed .MKV file.
But if you want the original fonts and things of that nature, then what all programs do you have for your converting.

Afternoon Tea 2012-01-01 02:26

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Originally Posted by DreGon45 (Post 3927460)
.MKV is a container, as are the .AVI and the .MP4. File extensions don't really have too much to do with soft or hardsubs. There is such a thing as a hardsubbed .MKV file.
But if you want the original fonts and things of that nature, then what all programs do you have for your converting.

im not quite sure, I was hoping you guys knew some good recommended software that I can use. I'm a novice at this kind of stuff :)

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-01-01 02:57

There's a program called MKV to AVI Converter which the title already tells you what it can do. It also can convert the stylistic subtitles too though it failed in some cases.

My question is, are you sure you want to convert those MKVs to AVIs? Coz that will surely reduces the quality of the video.

Also, most blu-ray players out there really can't play those MKV subs. As far as I can remember, you have to own a PS3 and add some programs/freewares from the net to be able to play MKV subs. Other method is to directly connect your TV to your computer.

Afternoon Tea 2012-01-01 03:03

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 3927559)
There's a program called MKV to AVI Converter which the title already tells you what it can do. It also can convert the stylistic subtitles too though it failed in some cases.

My question is, are you sure you want to convert those MKVs to AVIs? Coz that will surely reduces the quality of the video.

waaa? that's a total buzz kill :( I was hoping there was a way to Convert MKV Into AVI without Losing Subtitles and Quality. The only reason I would want to convert is because I like the font style, and I have problem extracting subs from a mkv and putting it into a .srt file so I can accompany the mkv with subs on my HDTV

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-01-01 03:12

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Originally Posted by CaptnAwesomee (Post 3927566)
waaa? that's a total buzz kill :( I was hoping there was a way to Convert MKV Into AVI without Losing Subtitles and Quality. The only reason I would want to convert is because I like the font style, and I have problem extracting subs from a mkv and putting it into a .srt file so I can accompany the mkv with subs on my HDTV

I know how you feel, man. I was just like you when I just bought a Blu-ray player. I wanted to see my HD animes on my TV screen, but it didn't work (it played the vids okay, but no subs). Converting to AVI is NOT an option for me. So, like I said before, if you really want to see your MKV animes with subs on TV, you either have to connect it to your PC or buy a PS3 or buy an entertainment set called Popcorn Hour.

Dante of the Inferno 2012-01-01 03:18

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Originally Posted by CaptnAwesomee (Post 3927408)
I want to be able to play this with subs through a HD TV via USB hard drive.

Come to think of it, modern HDTV's can play .srt and other subs within mkv files just fine. The problem is, almost all fansubs use .ass sub files. Is there just no way to add support for those on these TV's? Kinda defeats the purpose of playing USB video if you have to hook up a computer to the TV just to decode the subs.

Afternoon Tea 2012-01-01 03:25

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Originally Posted by Dante of the Inferno (Post 3927585)
Come to think of it, modern HDTV's can play .srt and other subs within mkv files just fine. The problem is, almost all fansubs use .ass sub files. Is there just no way to add support for those on these TV's? Kinda defeats the purpose of playing USB video if you have to hook up a computer to the TV just to decode the subs.

It works its just when I try to extract the .ass subtitles and convert it to .srt subtitles, TV supports .ssa subtitles but it needs to be a separate file, and in same folder as the .mkv file with the same name, so that the subs load up on tv

e.g

USB ---> Video Folder --> Anime x ---> Episode 1 ---> "epi 1.mkv" "epi 1.ssa" or "epi 1. srt"

the only problem is that the subtitles font codecs show like "FFF15 babalalal" with the sub translations. How do I fix this? and what program is best to extract subtitles and convert?

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-01-01 03:25

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Originally Posted by Dante of the Inferno (Post 3927585)
Come to think of it, modern HDTV's can play .srt and other subs within mkv files just fine. The problem is, almost all fansubs use .ass sub files. Is there just no way to add support for those on these TV's? Kinda defeats the purpose of playing USB video if you have to hook up a computer to the TV just to decode the subs.

Yup, that's right. srt and some other formats are no problem for my players too. We all had a hard time with the ass format, and so far I heard, the only device who can decode it and play it on TV are just PS3 and Popcorn Hour.

Afternoon Tea 2012-01-01 03:30

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 3927591)
Yup, that's right. srt and some other formats are no problem for my players too. We all had a hard time with the ass format, and so far I heard, the only device who can decode it and play it on TV are just PS3 and Popcorn Hour.

i wish I had a PS3, but I used up my all my allowance on a 70 year old vintage Mandolin, I got a good deal on it it was $1800, but I got it for $900 because no body bought, and it was just sitting in the store :heh: so the ps3 can play Mkv with no mods? On a other note, I do have a video converter, its called AVS Video Converter, but I don't think I'll trust it with loss-less converting.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-01-01 03:39

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Originally Posted by CaptnAwesomee (Post 3927598)
so the ps3 can play Mkv with no mods?

You just have to install a freeware called PS3 Media Server from the net to your PS3.

spikexp 2012-01-01 14:09

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Originally Posted by CaptnAwesomee (Post 3927590)


the only problem is that the subtitles font codecs show like "FFF15 babalalal" with the sub translations. How do I fix this? and what program is best to extract subtitles and convert?

What program do you use to convert the subtitle?
I use subtitle workshop 4 (beta I think), just to convert sub. It does a good job from what I've seen.

Ledgem 2012-01-01 18:42

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Originally Posted by CaptnAwesomee (Post 3927590)
the only problem is that the subtitles font codecs show like "FFF15 babalalal" with the sub translations. How do I fix this? and what program is best to extract subtitles and convert?

It sounds like you should be able to do what you want with the equipment that you have. I'm not totally clear on what you mean regarding the problem with the subtitles - it sounds like the program you're using just isn't handling the conversion properly?

Afternoon Tea 2012-01-02 08:02

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Originally Posted by Ledgem (Post 3928471)
It sounds like you should be able to do what you want with the equipment that you have. I'm not totally clear on what you mean regarding the problem with the subtitles - it sounds like the program you're using just isn't handling the conversion properly?

yep, I tried using another subtitle extractor, and it my problems were resolved! The only problem left is to put those darn order chapters together so the OP/ED work in the video ;)

blaze0041 2012-01-07 07:54

Not sure how old the MKVs are you are trying to convert, but you can try Xvid4PSP 5.0- it's fairly dated now and can be a little hard to use, but for me, it has managed to convert MKVs into another format whilst retaining the ASS styling and such (most of the time).
(See here)

NeoChan 2012-01-07 14:45

MP4s! Most video downloads are in that format. It's a space saver for me.

Davkilla101 2012-01-07 23:14

Mhmm, If you're looking for a converter, I always use Youtube downloader (apart from downloading youtube videos) when converting audio files (I do this frequently as my iPod doesn't accept anything other than MP4), though it does tend to distort the sound of the video to a certain degree depending on the file type you are converting from and converting to (For example, when I convert .MP4 to .Avi, it sounds like total garbage; If you decide to use YD for conversions and need a little help, don't hesitate to drop me a PM, i'd gladly assist you in getting it set up).

As to what format I think is better, I'd have to agree with Neochan on that point, since all the .avi files I have sound like garbage, and the .mp4 files i have have decent to excellent audio quality (little to no cracking in the sound).

Hope this helps


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