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DragoZERO 2012-03-28 00:14

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Fate/Zero BD release is uncut and uncensored. There are scenes that were cut due to broadcast time and scenes censored due to the violence. Therefore, we now have more to discuss.


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biodude711 2012-03-28 13:30

While I haven't had the chance to watch the uncut episodes, I did watch the first episode of the Einzbern Consultation Room Special. I found it to be both extremely informative and clever.

STaRGaZeR69 2012-03-28 16:16

Anybody else noticing the atrocious sound the BDs have? Volume is up and down all the time, like normalization gone bad, and is annoying as hell in the combat scenes like in epidode 5. Take a look at when Gilgamesh is throwing stuff at Berserker, volume is so fucking borked there.

My review: image quality is excellent, but sound quality is horrible. Added scenes are meh at best.

Justice Knight 2012-03-28 20:51

is there any kind soul will take a screenshot of the uncut scenes?

DragoZERO 2012-03-28 21:31

The uncut scenes are great. We see how the Assassins were ordered to attack in episode 11 and Sola-Ui and Lancer's discussion before heading out in episode 13. I'm surprised they left those parts since they do add a lot. Luckily they included them in the BD.

As for the uncensored stuff... really disturbing. So horrible. What makes it worse is you start to feel bad for the villains that their lair was destroyed and their "art" ruined. It's wrong to feel bad for them! How perplexing!

I think my favorite addition was Saber and Iri when they arrived in Japan from Russia. One notable thing was they mentioned how Saber cannot change form like the other Servants. I totally forgot about that. I think it's just a plot device so we see her more. :)

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Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR69 (Post 4079204)
Anybody else noticing the atrocious sound the BDs have? Volume is up and down all the time, like normalization gone bad, and is annoying as hell in the combat scenes like in epidode 5. Take a look at when Gilgamesh is throwing stuff at Berserker, volume is so fucking borked there.

My review: image quality is excellent, but sound quality is horrible. Added scenes are meh at best.

I didn't find the sound to be bad, but I mixed it with Dolby so maybe it's your sound settings.

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Originally Posted by Justice Knight (Post 4079555)
is there any kind soul will take a screenshot of the uncut scenes?

Can't play the BDs on my computer. But... you don't want to see them.

blue_sora 2012-03-29 03:22

Oh so the uncensored Caster's scenes is pretty disturbing? I heard the manga was more disturbing because it depicted exactly like what described in the novel, but the anime tamed it more because ufotable doesn't want the selling point is the gore.

chaos_alfa 2012-03-29 05:13

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO (Post 4079596)
I think my favorite addition was Saber and Iri when they arrived in Japan from Russia. One notable thing was they mentioned how Saber cannot change form like the other Servants. I totally forgot about that. I think it's just a plot device so we see her more. :)

Actually this was explained in the visual novel.
Spoiler for TYPE-MOON Wikia:

DragoZERO 2012-03-29 08:08

I know why... I was just making a joke since I had forgotten about it and never questioned why she didn't change into her spirit form.

And be careful with the wiki... it isn't always accurate.

chaos_alfa 2012-03-29 08:28

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO (Post 4080240)
I know why... I was just making a joke since I had forgotten about it and never questioned why she didn't change into her spirit form.

And be careful with the wiki... it isn't always accurate.

I'm aware of that. I just quoted it because I have read the same explanation in Fate Stay/Night and I wasn't in the mood to type everything down.

GDB 2012-03-29 08:49

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO (Post 4079596)
I think my favorite addition was Saber and Iri when they arrived in Japan from Russia. One notable thing was they mentioned how Saber cannot change form like the other Servants. I totally forgot about that. I think it's just a plot device so we see her more. :)

Russia? I thought the Einzbern were from Germany/Sweden/Switzerland/some other relatively german speaking country?

And even if it is a plot device, it's not like it doesn't have an appropriate explaination.

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO (Post 4080240)
And be careful with the wiki... it isn't always accurate.

Then the people who proclaim absolute knowledge (not saying you're proclaiming that, but I've seen others try to act like they are on here enough times) need to fix it, or make an easily accessible alternative that is accurate. Rather tired of seeing a comment about how it isn't always accurate every time someone mentions the wiki, regardless of whether what they're stating is accurate or not.

DragoZERO 2012-03-29 09:58

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Originally Posted by GDB (Post 4080292)
Russia? I thought the Einzbern were from Germany/Sweden/Switzerland/some other relatively german speaking country?

It was cold and snowing... so I assumed it was Russia. :heh: I suppose a mountain in Germany would be cold too.

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And even if it is a plot device, it's not like it doesn't have an appropriate explaination.
Yeah, that's what I like about Nasu, even the devices have explanations.

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Then the people who proclaim absolute knowledge (not saying you're proclaiming that, but I've seen others try to act like they are on here enough times) need to fix it, or make an easily accessible alternative that is accurate. Rather tired of seeing a comment about how it isn't always accurate every time someone mentions the wiki, regardless of whether what they're stating is accurate or not.
That would be good. But what happens is anyone can change a wiki and that is it's greatest strength and weakness. Ever read the Naruto one? Written at a fourth grade reading level and edited with each and every chapter, before something is is proven true or false in the series. Happened with the Type-Moon wikia, I saw a change after an episode of Zero aired and that change could not stay because it was untrue - it was a viewer's speculation that is proved false in the novel.

GDB 2012-03-29 10:37

And that's why I added the option of making an easily accessible alternative. =P

Also, it looks like there's three Einzbern specials in season 1. Can't wait for more!

GuidoHunter_Toki 2012-03-29 11:33

I've shots of the scenes from Caster's layer and in the woods. Not totally outrageous but gruesome stuff nevertheless. Then again it may look worse with movement.

DragoZERO 2012-03-29 11:40

Ack, I forgot about this! In some scenes there are specks of light... it looks like dust particles reflecting light to me. Has anyone else noticed these? They are easy to notice when Saber and Iri enter the storehouse at their "new base."

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Originally Posted by GDB (Post 4080446)
Also, it looks like there's three Einzbern specials in season 1. Can't wait for more!

I'm waiting for the torrent. I skipped through them on the BD but unfortunately they were not subtitled... I feel like a broken record here but it is disappointing. What is cool is that you can shut off the VN-style text box from the pop up menu.

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Originally Posted by GuidoHunter_Toki (Post 4080503)
I've shots of the scenes from Caster's layer and in the woods. Not totally outrageous but gruesome stuff nevertheless. Then again it may look worse with movement.

Plus sound effects. I am glad they toned it down from the novel.

GDB 2012-03-29 21:37

Oh my god, that second Einzbern Consultation Room...

Spoiler:

Xellos-_^ 2012-03-30 12:20

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO (Post 4079596)
As for the uncensored stuff... really disturbing. So horrible. What makes it worse is you start to feel bad for the villains that their lair was destroyed and their "art" ruined. It's wrong to feel bad for them! How perplexing!

so they actually show the human furniture and instruments?

LostHanyou 2012-03-30 12:26

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^ (Post 4082396)
so they actually show the human furniture and instruments?

No, it's not nearly as bad as the novel.

Humbaba 2012-03-30 14:25

Since many ones wanted to see the alternative scenes, here on this blog they were screenshotted until episode 09 (the rest should follow the next days I guess).
http://www.kira-reviews.com/blog/archives/1280
http://www.kira-reviews.com/blog/archives/1444

Didn't watch my BDs yet, since I need a new HDMI cable but I will start tomorrow watching. Can't wait to see the Drama CD and last Einsbern episode translated.

Xellos-_^ 2012-03-30 16:15

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Originally Posted by Humbaba (Post 4082587)
Since many ones wanted to see the alternative scenes, here on this blog they were screenshotted until episode 09 (the rest should follow the next days I guess).
http://www.kira-reviews.com/blog/archives/1280
http://www.kira-reviews.com/blog/archives/1444

Didn't watch my BDs yet, since I need a new HDMI cable but I will start tomorrow watching. Can't wait to see the Drama CD and last Einsbern episode translated.

thanks

looks like they still chicken out on the laboratory scenes.

GDB 2012-03-30 20:39

Haha, I love their aliases at customs.

Irisviel: Maria Thompson, 27 year-old from New Orleans
Saber: Elise Watoson, 25 year-old from New Orleans


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