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james0246 2012-05-23 00:12

[Manga] Naruto Chapter 587 Discussion
 
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It's a new week, so that means new Naruto spoilers...which are now released.

Quote:

-Itachi explains Izanami and Izanagi to Sasuke. Itachi also explains why he used the technique, even if it destroys his eye.

-The only way to escape Izanami is to "accept" yourself. Itachi used the technique as an act of kindness to Kabuto (?).

-The chapter ends with Itachi telling Sasuke that he will end Edo Tensei.

haegar 2012-05-23 05:08

some few spoiler pics out, apparently part of the events took place inside Kabuto's head only, Itachi is holding his head in his hand while explaining to Sasuske, the sharinghax technique needs a 3/4 page of diagrams with arrows and stuff to explain how it worked 0.o Kabuto also seems to perform some Jutsu later, unsure if that implies he manages to break out of it or if that panel might be him undoing the edo tensei. the 4 pics I saw all dealt with kabuto/uchiha inside the cave but that doesn't mean there is no other panels showing the zombies decomposing or whatever ...seems like this particular encouter is drawing to a close, finally...

Ushio the Omega 2012-05-23 05:58

Another chapter where Kishimoto's left hand was "busy" while he was drawing.

Seitsuki 2012-05-23 06:19

They just talked about what they're gonna do 'when the war is over'!

They're doomed.

HasuMasu 2012-05-23 06:38

Oh damn, Kishi went all out with Izanami's mechanics.

Color me impressed.

Randrak42 2012-05-23 06:47

Why were the two guys wearing Konoha headbands?

Kafriel 2012-05-23 07:35

"Sasuke: but Itachi, you were perfect!" Seriously, after all he put him through? I know he loves his brother but this isn't something a genius says...particularly not one who had their childhood raped by said person.

milan kyuubi 2012-05-23 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafriel (Post 4172626)
"Sasuke: but Itachi, you were perfect!" Seriously, after all he put him through? I know he loves his brother but this isn't something a genius says...particularly not one who had their childhood raped by said person.

Yeah! It makes me wander why is he so mad at Konoha. It seams that he considers people who wronged him to be perfect. So why all the hate towards Konoha? :confused:

Kyero Fox 2012-05-23 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detective-san (Post 4172590)
Oh damn, Kishi went all out with Izanami's mechanics.


Color me impressed.

Color me bored :heh:

Randrak42 2012-05-23 08:27

"But Itachi, you were perfect."

It was at that moment that the ulcer in my stomach burst, out of sheer Uuuurrrggghhhhhh

milan kyuubi 2012-05-23 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdeal000 (Post 4172671)
Um, konoha wronged the perfect Itachi? that's at least how i see it.

That's even worse! He hates people who wronged the man who killed his family :uhoh: It's like he forgot what Itachi did, and considers him perfect. Even trough in the end it was by Itachi's hands his whole clan/family died.

haegar 2012-05-23 08:33

I dunno if it's the translation or I am simply dense, but pray do tell, do all the diagrams serve any function other than saying "it creates a timeloop" ?

if Kabuto is IN the loop, how can he complain ABOUT being in the loop to Itachi OUTSIDE the loop? Unless other trans add something to this I call logic rape - does ALL of this serve ANY purpose other than getting Kishi out of the corner he stupidly maneuvered himself into by having stated "Edo Tensei will continue if Kabuto dies" ?

I'm not even sure anymore if he wanted to properly give Kabuto a backstory for real or only ever did three chaps of backstory in the hopes on distracting people from the fact that the whole Edo Tensei Izanami Izanagi matter simply is botched? 0.o

sigh. I want Kages. I want Naruto. I want Tobi.

Valky 2012-05-23 08:41

What is this, I don't even know what I was reading ..

Naruto vs Tobi, when?

Randrak42 2012-05-23 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by haegar (Post 4172690)

sigh. I want Kages. I want Naruto. I want Tobi.

I'll take anything that doesn't involve the Uchiha dimwit and his Perfect big brother by now...hell even Bee and his annoying rapping.

Eragon 2012-05-23 08:45

@haeger
I actually didn't get the explanation at all :uhoh:
And what the FUCK was all that about Izanami being there to stop people from getting big headed? Since when did they start making jutsu's for controlling people's egos:twitch:

milan kyuubi 2012-05-23 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon (Post 4172699)
I actually didn't get the explanation at all :uhoh:

Me to! Surely Kishi could have thought better explanation then this. :heh:

Eragon 2012-05-23 08:51

^ Maybe he wanted to make himself sound smarter by saying things that didn't make any sense :heh:

haegar 2012-05-23 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon (Post 4172705)
^ Maybe he wanted to make himself sound smarter by saying things that didn't make any sense :heh:

well that was my line of thought though actually I don't think you could feel smarter from drawing this - however it surely is a page that saves some work aka filler XD
I cannot extract any useful info from those mumbojumbo diagrams other than
a) it's a timeloop
b) specifically made to trap people abusing Izanagi
c) they get out once they see the error of their ways

b) and c) did not require a diagram, a) was already stated last chapter.

Randrak42 2012-05-23 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by haegar (Post 4172720)
well that was my line of thought though actually I don't think you could feel smarter from drawing this - however it surely is a page that saves some work aka filler XD
I cannot extract any useful info from those mumbojumbo diagrams other than
a) it's a timeloop
b) specifically made to trap people abusing Izanagi
c) they get out once they see the error of their ways

b) and c) did not require a diagram, a) was already stated last chapter.

Are you implying that Kishimoto was just wasting space and prolonging the Uchiha fanser...fight?

How dare you! I am offended!

haegar 2012-05-23 09:14

I dunno exactly what I am implying as I think neither does Kishi when it comes to the issues of the last couple of chapters. Personally, by now I booked the Kabuto/Uchiha encouter as lamentable failure and am waiting to get back to the afore presented level of awesomeness. By the way I forgot Madara in my list of "I want", gomen, didn't intend to discriminate against him...

Something I so far ignored just dawned on me: assuming Itachi undoes Edo Tensei, will Madara decompose, too or will he hax the undoing and just keep on going cause he's boss? :heh: - Cause if he just crumbles the Kage's are free to assist Naruto? I'd prefer him and Bee (and the two senseis) to deal with Tobi...


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