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monir 2012-06-23 03:54

Fate/Zero - Episode 25 Discussion [END] / Poll
 
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Miraluka 2012-06-23 10:46

Basically this is the episode in a nutshell for Kiritsugu.

Spoiler for OH GOD WHAT I HAVE DONE!?!?!?:


P.S.: Gilgamesh..... kono HENTAI!!

Proto 2012-06-23 10:55

Tears were shed.

Auria 2012-06-23 10:55

Gilgamesh needs to get confiscicated by the hot boy police >_>

Episode left me with a feeling of deep sickness somehow, which is good I guess.. emotional reaction is never bad. But oh so much suffering.

zRyuu 2012-06-23 11:01

Is that Taiga on 19:16?

Kaiba 2012-06-23 11:03

I guess they did as well as they could.

But as LN Novel reader, it still loses points for not including by absolutely favorite Gilgamesh scene in the entire series.

Spoiler for Awesome Gil quote:

claza 2012-06-23 11:06

Decent overall. It skipped around here and there, but I guess they were trying to cram a bunch into 20 minutes.

Saber's cry hit me like a rock and my heart broke into a million pieces - one of the things that I would say was much more powerful than the novel.

rainz 2012-06-23 11:07

Fascinating episode.

I liked that they moved Lancelot's resolution to this episode. It tied in really well with Saber's ending. Great decision by Ufotable. I think it makes for a really more emotional ending for Saber than the novel version. Well done.

Kotomine's Azoth scene. Fuck you, Kotomine, seriously. That was beyond cruel. Hope it comes back to bite you in the ass! (lol).

Only real weakness to the episode is the final conclusion with Kiritsugu and Shirou. I wished I could have seen more of their relationship before that ending. As such, I didn't really "feel" Kiritsugu's relief at Shirou's words. I did enjoy the Taiga cameo though!

Now I'm loading up the game to see the characters' redemption. I know I'm not the only one!

SoldierOfDarkness 2012-06-23 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilfriback (Post 4220623)
Basically this is the episode in a nutshell for Kiritsugu.

Spoiler for OH GOD WHAT I HAVE DONE!?!?!?:


P.S.: Gilgamesh..... kono HENTAI!!

Did Kiri had any other option though?

DakkerDB 2012-06-23 11:17

Oh boy... the sadness at seeing it end! Was a wonderful episode to close off an wonderful series. Kerry's desperation, Saber's sadness, Kirei's mad laugh. Everything falling into place.
I seriously rejoiced upon seeing Shirou.

Though I have to admit, I laughed like mad when I saw naked Gil... that was just so out of the blue for me. Good stuff.

rainz 2012-06-23 11:22

...and Shirou, you sure have a loooooong road in front of you. You've inherited the most tormented heritage. Good luck to you and all this cast of masochistic heroes. Seriously, I had to pause after hearing Lancelot and Saber's words. He hated her but respected her as the perfect king. She broke down from the weight of her duty, but resolved to continue to honor her friends' sacrifices. Its like an exercise in masochism. Could there ever have been a good ending for them?

If nothing else, I really enjoyed this series as a commentary on the conflicting nature of "heroes".

Linkark07 2012-06-23 11:27

Shirley: Kerry, what do you want to be when you grow up?
Kiritsugu: I, want to be a Hero of Justice.

Sad scene, in the end, Kerry couldn't become what he wanted to be.

Gonna miss Fate/Zero. It was a great ride and right now my favorite anime of this year.

Kirei, you really are twisted. Enjoying yourself while Rin was crying.

I think Ufotable really disliked Kariya, they trolled him and Lancelot a lot.

It was good to see young Shirou. Not my favorite character but after spending a lot of hours viewing his point of view in Fate/Stay Night will make you miss him in Fate/Zero.

Oh and Gil, kono hentai. That made me laugh.

DakkerDB 2012-06-23 11:29

And here's another thing. If, as Lancelot stated, they all saw her as the perfect king, why would she interpret that as a powerful motivator to make her kingship void? Saber is so damn deep in her self-loathing that she can't even take in praise for her reign. Such a tragic figure.

Theorder14 2012-06-23 11:31

meh, no grown up Waver T.T?

konart 2012-06-23 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainz (Post 4220654)
Fascinating episode.

I liked that they moved Lancelot's resolution to this episode. It tied in really well with Saber's ending. Great decision by Ufotable. I think it makes for a really more emotional ending for Saber than the novel version. Well done.

Kotomine's Azoth scene. Fuck you, Kotomine, seriously. That was beyond cruel. Hope it comes back to bite you in the ass! (lol).

Only real weakness to the episode is the final conclusion with Kiritsugu and Shirou. I wished I could have seen more of their relationship before that ending. As such, I didn't really "feel" Kiritsugu's relief at Shirou's words. I did enjoy the Taiga cameo though!

Now I'm loading up the game to see the characters' redemption. I know I'm not the only one!

We all know how ironic it is. :heh:

Bern-san 2012-06-23 11:34

BEST.EPISODE.EVER:
http://i49.tinypic.com/m7vy9.png

That aside, Sakura was so scary after Kariya died (and made me want HF anime).
Poor Kiritsugu and Saber. Those scenes were so emotional.:(
Rider has indeed left a presence, he will always be in our hearts.
Rin and Sakura's mother...:twitch:

Oh and let's not forget Kirei's Engrish

GuidoHunter_Toki 2012-06-23 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainz (Post 4220654)
Now I'm loading up the game to see the characters' redemption. I know I'm not the only one!

Still won't fix the depressing feeling I get of knowing Ilya and Kiritsugu saw each other again and jsut how bad thigns did turn out for Kiritsugu (couldn't become a hero and died without achieving it). Damn did that guy have it bad.

I mean sure the people in the next holy grail war all find a way for the most part to live happily afterwords, but I think everyone, but Waver (and of course Gil and Keiri) in this grail war get royally screwed over.

Ah depression, how I love it.:heh:

Linkark07 2012-06-23 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter_Toki (Post 4220708)
Still won't fix the depressing feeling I get of knowing Ilya and Kiritsugu saw each other again and jsut how bad thigns did turn out for Kiritsugu (couldn't become a hero and died without achieving it). Damn did that guy have it bad.

I mean sure the people in the next holy grail war all find a way for the most part to live happily afterwords, but I think everyone, but Waver in this grail war get royally screwed over.

Ah depression, how I love it.:heh:

Kirei didn't get screwed up, in fact, the ending of that war was quite delightful for him.

GuidoHunter_Toki 2012-06-23 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkark07 (Post 4220712)
Kirei didn't get screwed up, in fact, the ending of that war was quite delightful for him.

Yeah, which is why I edited that. I was kind of mostly refering to those with good intentions I guess. Heck all the villians had great endings, even Caster and his master.

Linkark07 2012-06-23 11:43

Ah Kirei, even though he is evil and twisted for some reason I like him. Also took a liking to Gilgamesh.

That pair was great imo.


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